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At the end of the day, it's not about what
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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what
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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,
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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.
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Denzel Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is
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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you
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to do the same.
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Madeleine Weiss, Welcome to the show.
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Oh thank you. I'm delighted to be here.
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Well, I'm glad to have you here.
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I'd love for you to share with the audience kind
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of who you are, your background, and I think that's
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important for them to understand. But also where did you
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What was the path and the journey you went on
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in order to bring you to this point, because it's certainly,
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I think a little bit different than one would have
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expected based on your background.
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Yeah, there is a story. So the short of it is,
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I help busy people master their minds so they can
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live happier, healthier, prosperous and productive lives. I'm a Harvard
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trained licensed psycho therapist, board certified executive life and career coach,
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mindset expert, and so on. You want to know how
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I got here?
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Yeah, yeah, what's the journey?
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All right? Who knows what you come onto the planet with.
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We'll start there, okay. But I do have a story
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that I think played a big part in who I
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am and where I am and what I contribute today,
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and that is you know the little children's book Madeline.
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I've heard of it, not read it, heard of it.
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Yes, probably a lot of your listeners know about it.
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So there's this little book Madeline, And there's a little
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passage in the book, and it's she was not afraid
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of mice. She loved winter, snow and ice. To the
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tiger in the zoo, Madeline just said poo pooh. And
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so did I too many times to my dad, so
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that I was like a pretty feisty, mouthy little girl. Yeah,
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I don't know, if I don't know if you can tell.
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But when he was forty two and I was fifteen,
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he died suddenly and the doctor said it was a
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cerebral hemorrhage. And I went for years because people didn't
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talk to their children, or at least in my part
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of the world back in the day, the way we
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do now about their feelings and how they're interpreting their
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experience and all that good stuff, And so I was
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left to my own devices. And I figured that I
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was such a pain in that, you know what, that
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he died of me. And there was this moment in
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the cemetery when I finally broke down with my mother
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about how all my fault it was, and she said, no, honey,
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it wasn't you. It was work. So no surprise. I'm
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in my life if I can help one little boy
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or girl's mommy or daddy, or anybody at all for
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that matter, you know, get to those happier, healthier, prosperous,
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productive lives. I'm then, and.
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You've written a couple of books, Can you share with
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the audience what they are and what the focus is,
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because they're different focuses, aren't they.
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Yes and no no okay, no, yes, yes, yes, and
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also no okay. So this is the first one getting
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a great and this is for adults. And one day
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I said to myself, you know, all of my clients
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are so different from each other, age, occupation, ethnicity, whatever
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you name it. And also my training background is so varied,
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so there's no telling which tool I'm pulling out of
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the toolkit at any given time with anybody. So I
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just said, you know, like, these these people are doing, well,
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what are we doing here? I've got intensely curious about
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because I don't follow anybody's playbooks. It's an art and
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a science in the way that I practice, and it's
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very organic and interactive. So it's like, what's happening here
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that's working? What is the common denominator? I wanted to know,
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was there something that applied to all that was helping
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them get from men in their lives to really feeling
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great about their lives. And came I laid all my
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boulders out looking at them, you know, and I came
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up with this five step process. And that's what the
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first book is, this five step strategy for work and
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life the reason and this launched November nineteenth.
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Pretty yeah, what's your story?
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So the reason I said to you yes and no
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is because this was for the adults. But I kept
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hearing adults saying to me, why did somebody teach me
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this when I was younger? It could have spared me
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from hitting the wall a few times by the time
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I got to I don't know, thirty forty fifty, whatever
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it was, and making myself and everybody around me miserable
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and the process. If only I had known just a
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few simple things that can make all the difference in
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the world. And I thought, you know, that's so true.
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And sometimes I'll work with my clients on their parenting.
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Not that not that I niche ever in that area,
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but it was just it just sort of came to
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be that, you know, they'll talk to me about their
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children and I'll come up with a couple of ideas
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for them that work like magic. And so I thought,
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I really have to, I have to do one for kids.
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So I did. So the message is very similar, really,
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but one is packaged for adults and one is packaged
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for kids.
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found fascinating and I thought would be an interesting thing
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to talk about a bit, was this what you call
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parental burnout?
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And you know, what I have found is.
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That as I've done so many podcasts, studied and research
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and all of these type of things, that as children,
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you know, they have their own perception and as parents,
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we might we might say something that we think is
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just loving and kind, and their perception is we're saying.
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They're no good. You know, they all of that type
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of thing.
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And I have found that parents really struggle. And you know,
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sometimes there's those parents that are really consciously working hard
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with their kids, and then there are other parents, unfortunately,
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that are so busy at work that they're kind of
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ignoring that whole situation even though they have the kids.
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So let's talk about both what can parents do to
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help their children to have a healthier mindset, a healthier
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experience so that they don't have all those subconscious imprints
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later on in life. Number one question and number two
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question is, then how do we help parents who are
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experiencing burnout because their kids are difficult?
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Okay, great, great, great questions. First of all, there's a
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study to support what you're saying. I forget how many kids.
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They asked if there was one person that you could
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think of. I think it might have even included fictional characters.
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I don't know, but who would you want to, like
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have dinner with or whatever it was. And all of
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them were saying their parents. They yearned to be with
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their parent, And it tells you something about what the
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availability is parental burnout. I have a definition. Puild a
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bunch of stuff for you is defined by Psychologicalscience dot
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org as an intense exhaustion that leads parents to feel detached.
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Keyword detached. I'm coming back to that, detached from their
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children and unsure of their parenting abilities. It's actually more
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than that they feel in general. I had a client
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yesterday who described it like so vividly detached from everything.
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So you have like seventy five percent working parents, and
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I you know, I asked the Human Resource Association, do
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you say working parents now? Because parenting is pretty important work.
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So how do you say that? So anybody who's having
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a problem with that, I don't know how else to
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say it. They couldn't tell me, So I'm gonna say
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or working parents. Okay, So seventy five percent of them
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say that their children's mental health is their primary concern,
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which means that when they're at work, they're having trouble
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focusing pretty much on anything because there's this overwhelming feeling
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of no matter what they're doing, it's not good enough anywhere.
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And to a degree they're not wrong about that because
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they're so detached everywhere. Yeah, so, which part of your
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many wonderful questions did I not answer?
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Well, you know, the parental burnout, and then and then
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also what it is, but how do you help? How
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do you help the the people that are burned out,
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how do you help them to really become that good parent?
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And then for those that are not quite so burned
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out and really focused on helping again, how do they
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make sure that the perception of their children is such.
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True with what the parent is seeking to teach them
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or trying to say or trying to communicate.
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I'm going to tell it in a story. So there's
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this woman. She works for the treasury, and she travels
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a lot, and she has a four year old, and
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every time she's about to leave on her trip, the
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four year old has a meltdown. And this very good
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woman who means well certainly by her child and is
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just trying to do everything well. She'll say to him
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things like it's okay, Daddy will be here. You know,
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she tries to comfort the child, Daddy will be here.
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I'll only be gone for two days and then I'll
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be home and we'll do this and this and this
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and so what she did, she tries to cheer him up.
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what she's doing is she's leaving the child alone with
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his feelings. So when he grows up to be an adult,
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if that continued, which it's not going to because I
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had my way with her, and I'll tell you and
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I'll tell you what that is. But had she continued
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to do that as an adult, he would have a
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very hard time navigating his own life because he wouldn't
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have any inner guidance that he could trust. Because when
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he presented his feelings to his mother, she told him
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why he should not feel that way. So that and
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if listeners, take one thing, take this. The tip is
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you know, there's right brain, left brain. It's oversimplified, but
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it's useful to do so for things like this. So
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he's having a right The kid is having a right
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brain meltdown. He's all emotion, he's not thinking straight. He
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can't even hear what she's saying. She's trying to talk
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reason and logic to him. He can't. He can't hear it,
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and if he can hear it, he can't process it
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because he's in a different place. So with what she
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needed to do was before she told him why it's
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going to be all right and he shouldn't have the
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feelings that he's having, she acknowledged those feelings. I know
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it sounds really simple, but it's not instinctive. Somehow parents
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want the kid not to feel bad, and so they
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try to fix it. But what she started to do
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was she started to say things to him like, I
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know this is always hard for you when mommy goes away.
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You feel whatever it is he said he felt, and
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she really acknowledged that. And it got to the point
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where the kids said to her, and I'm laughing because
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I think it's so funny. The kids said to her, go, okay, fine,
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good go because he got what he needed. He needed
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to have his feelings acknowledged. He needed to know his
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feelings were okay, and he needed to know that he
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was not alone in those feelings. Yes, there was somebody
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who got it well.
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And you know, as you bring that up, and you
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bring up left brain right right. And I'm very fascinated
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by personality behavioral profiles, and I'm actually certified in one
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particular one. But the way that I got interested in
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that was years ago. I had two of my boys,
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One was a senior and one was a sophomore in
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high school and they were fighting like crazy.
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And I was in a.
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I was in a group, a networking group, and they
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had invited this gentleman in and he talked about personalities
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and he had created his own personality program and so forth,
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and I found it fascinating, and so I had both
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of my boys.
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Go through a program with him. And here's what we discovered.
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The younger son right brain, now right brain, left brain,
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but very much focused right brain. The other son very
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left brain. And so the left brain son would be
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talking to him very strongly and so forth, and you know,
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the emotions and the sense that the other son was
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getting was really tough. They went through this program, they
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started to understand that, and they became best friends, and