Oct. 9, 2024

Treasure Map to Joy

Treasure Map to Joy

Mindset and Consciousness, the secret to joy and peace in our lives.
Stacie Shifflett, transformed by a significant life-changing event in 2012, embarked on a rich journey of intensive personal exploration. This experience, combined with her innate...

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Mindset and Consciousness, the secret to joy and peace in our lives.
Stacie Shifflett, transformed by a significant life-changing event in 2012, embarked on a rich journey of intensive personal exploration. This experience, combined with her innate insight and compassion, underscores her mission: to empower individuals to recognize and harness their unique brilliance and chart their own Treasure Map to Joy™!
Stacie shares her insights and the 4 Steps of Being.
www.modernconsciousness.com

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the services of competent professionals before applying or trying any

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At the end of the day, it's not about what

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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what

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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,

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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.

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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Stacy, Welcome to the show.

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Thank you, Doctor Doug. So good to be here.

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Hey, it's great to have you here. Uh, looking forward

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to this. You know what I find interesting is everyone

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that I've ever interviewed always has a particular approach to

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what they're doing. And what I have found is for

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some people one does not work, but another one does.

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And so I'm really looking forward for you sharing what

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your approach is and how does help people and how

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it's helped you. I'd love for you to share with

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the audience who you are and what is that awe

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moment or gradual moment that caused you to get to

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the point where you are today and the way that

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you're wanting to help people.

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Yes. Absolutely, my name is Stacy Schifflet. I am the

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founder and CEO of a company called Modern Consciousness. And yeah,

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let's see the idea for this company and the name

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and my theory of modern consciousness and all of that

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was gifted to me in meditation and the catalyst for

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a lot of my personal change. I'm kind of known

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as the Queen of reinvention. I've reinvented myself many many times.

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I tend to just naturally do it about every decade.

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And we'll talk about that a little bit later. But

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I had my twenty eight year marriage imploded, and that

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was in twenty twelve, which really it disrupted my life.

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I guess is is the best way, but that the

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most concise way, And yeah, I you know, I did

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all the things that I thought I should be doing

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to recover from that and to set myself up in

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a new home and so on and so forth. And

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I discovered about two years in that although things really

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appeared good from the outside, they weren't on the inside. Right.

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I was still very angry. I had a lot of resentment.

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I had adopted some habits that probably were not the healthiest.

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I was single and out and party and having fun,

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and I had some great friends and we had some

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great times. But I really couldn't see my future, right.

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I couldn't see where it was going. I had a

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construction company at the time, and yeah, that company really

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afforded me the opportunity and the luxury. I truly was

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an owner and not an operator. It generated a good income,

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and it truly afforded me the opportunity to dive very

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very deeply into personal development. And I remember the first

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person's office I walked into that was, you know, a

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theta healer and a personal development coach. He's like, why

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are you here, and I said, well, because I'm tired

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of being angry. Right. I think often when we get

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tired of our own stuff, you know, we make a change.

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And so that was the star of that journey, which

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now has been over a decade. And you know, I

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spent two years as a Tony Rabbit, Robin's platinum partner,

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traveling the world. I've studied all sorts of modalities from

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energy healing to neural linguistic programming, you know, you name it.

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I've invested a lot of money and a lot of

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time and all of that. But that's that's how it started.

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Wow. Wow. And and you're writing a book or you've

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written a book, you've got one coming out?

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Yes, I have, Gosh, I think I have four compilation

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books that I've done so far, but I'm I'm finally

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biting off a solo book and it is okay, yeah,

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Treasure Mount to Joy. And I actually do have a

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book coming out, oh probably in about another thirty days.

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I think they've gone to print now, and that is

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a compilation book. I guess this will make five compilation books.

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And that one is Mindset Matters with Jack Canfield.

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Oh great, great, great, great. Well, you know, and it's

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fascinating how those experiences. You know, some people have those

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experiences and they become victims, and they find them their

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lives just victims, and they always make choices that prove

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to themselves that they're victims. Obviously, what you did was

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decide I'm not going to be a victim of this.

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And obviously with all of the studies that you've done,

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you come to a different field. So as you think

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about that, what is modern consciousness?

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You know, modern consciousness to me really is living life

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with intention, you know, it truly is getting to know yourself.

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It is stepping out of what I call the aspect

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I call automaton two point zero. Right, it's when we're

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on autopilot and the momentum of our lives is really

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being driven by the act activities that are already in play.

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Oftentimes we're still executing against decisions we made decades ago,

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and we're really not taught, at least I wasn't, uh,

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you know, really not taught to sit and contemplate and

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reevaluate our lives in a holistic manner. As we proceed

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through life, right, we we keep chasing things that we

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think will make us happy, and we think they'll make

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us happy because we've been taught that that is, you

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know that that level of success or whatever it is

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you know will will make us happy, whether it's if

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you have six children or a career or you know,

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whatever it is, and all of that is, it's it's natural.

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We're born into this world helpless, so it's it's it

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has to be that way, right. We have to have

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people care for us and bring us up, and then

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we're put into institutions, whether they're are you know, we're

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raised in a church or school, and you know, we

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have to be molded and shaped because we come into

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this world completely helpless. And I think it's just a

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natural transition of things, right. And at some point I

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find that a lot of people that little voice in

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their heads starts, you know, saying, gosh, there's got to

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be more to life than this, right, There just must

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be more than this, because we're running ourselves ragged trying

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to keep up with what. I don't really know because

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you know, we haven't sat and really reevaluated it and

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thought about what is it that we want in this

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season of our life? Right, because the seasons of life change.

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Well, that's true. We have multiple lives in this life,

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don't we.

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Yes, Oh, gosh, I've lived Mini. I've lived Mini.

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Yes, you know, I laugh about that. It was interesting.

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I've spent a lot of time in Thailand and and

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as I've been there. I've you know, obviously loved to

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study different religions and so forth. And one of the

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things I found was that there was an individual that

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took the original Buddhist teachings and really explained those in

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an English way. And one of the things I found

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fascinating is that, you know, he says, you know, Buddha

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talks about multiple lives, and everyone talks about multiple lives, says,

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but what he's really talking about is multiple lives within

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this life, how we can literally change and create a

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new life for ourselves. And I thought that was fascinating

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because you know, I've never heard that before.

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You know, I've never heard it put that way. I

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have often said I feel like I've lived multiple lives

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in this life. But I have chills running through my

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body as you say that, and you know it's true.

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I mean, I've done so many different things, right. I

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started out as a as a cocktail waitress and a bartender,

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and you know, was waiting table bulls and I was

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making good money, I thought, so I quit college, right,

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you know, and sort of stumbled into the it world

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trying to get a job. It was a friend of

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my mother's from church that actually, you know, welcomed me

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into her office, a small woman owned contractor government contractor,

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and she was a very small company. I had studied

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a little bit about computers when I was in college,

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but I didn't really know. But I just learned and

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learned quickly and just soaked it up. And as she

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lost people, I kept growing. And within a year of

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starting in a completely new career in a completely new area.

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I actually this is going to date me, but I

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installed and supported the installation of the first IBM PC

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XTS desktop computers at the Department of Health and Human Services,

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and I did all of the user training, I did

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all of the you know, help them with all of

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the applications as far as how to transition their job

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to use them. I didn't do the technical pieces right.

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And that was within a year, within a with a

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complete career change.

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Well, and you know, it's fascinating. The one thing that

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comes to my mind is as I've observed people who,

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for instance, in your case, you know, you were doing

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well with your construction company, which gave you the ability,

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which was a real blessing, to be able to go

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out and start researching more. And it's fascinating how I

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think there are many people that say, well, I don't

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have a college education, so you know, I need to

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have that in order to be successful, And yet those

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that have had college educations or partial college educations. I

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can't tell you how many of our leaders right now

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in personal development were chiropractors who quit their chiropractic practice

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and started doing the same type of studying that you're

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doing and following different you know, gurus and now have

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done an entirely different thing and are making an entirely

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different type of difference in people's lives. And that's what

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you did. And I think it's important for people to

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understand that. You know, what all you have to do

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is be curious, and ultimately with curiosity, and if you're

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willing to really look into whatever his industry you you

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can find yourself as successful as you choose to be.

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You know, I agree with that one hundred percent. And

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I often say our own personal development even when we

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look within, you know, I use the word curious a lot.

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It's with open curiosity and it's mindset and it's belief. Right,

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So I believed that I could do well at that

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first office job, right, And I did, and I actually

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that career took a number of course changes for me,

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and I ended up in federal government acquisition. We had

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software that automated all of those processes, and I ended

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up just by chance, really as a subject matter expert

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in that field because I stayed with it and I

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did well with it, and that culminated talk about you

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really can do anything. That culminated for me in doing

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an acquisition of a fifty million dollar software company without

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investing a penny. I literally just woke up one day

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and said I need to buy this company. I didn't

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know how. I have goosebumps again as I'm telling you that,

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I just knew it was meant to be and I

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did it. You know, I pulled in an associated mind

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that had things that I did not like. He had

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an MBA and you know, I had no college degree,

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and we did it. It took nine months, and we

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had a lot of opposition, but it that way. People

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thought we were absolutely crazy. He many many times he

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was like, we're never going to be able to do this,

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and I said, We're doing it. And we did it.

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Wow wow, And you know, and that brings up the

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point of how can we literally change our lives, create

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a new life for ourselves. And I think so many

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times people create new life sure themselves and find that.

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You know, it was the statement you better be careful

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what you wish for because you may get it. And

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so what what makes me curious is as you were

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talking about things, you talk first of all about how

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in a meditative state, a very important message came to you.

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And I'd love to talk about that a little bit more.

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Sure, Sure, what would you like to know about it?

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What happened? You know?

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It's it's it's uh. That came through for me after

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a trip for India. Uh to India really that I

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went to with Tony Robbinson. It was a spiritual trip

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and I also did a mission trip there with an

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organization called FREEO Girl that works with human trafficking victims.

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And wow, what an eye opener that is.

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One way to open your mind and to appreciate and

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have gratitude for the things you have and to have

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compassion for other people is to expand your worldview to

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see what others in the world experience. That was. That

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was such a profound, profound trip for me, and I

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can talk to you more about that if you want.

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But you know, I I this idea came in, as

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they do for me. I will, I will get the words,

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I'll get an instruction. And it was like, you know,

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you need to start this company. And I'm like, what

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is this modern consciousness? I have no idea. I felt

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compelled to start writing the information that I was receiving,

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and that included aspects of modern consciousness, which are automaton

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two point zero and then we move into an awakening

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soul and you know, illuminated adept and transformer and it's nonlinear.

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You know, all this all this information. So I started

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capturing it and it was a very interesting concept. And

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then I was like, okay, let me start researching this field.

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And so I did you know, I'm I'm an analyst

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by heart. So I started, you know, researching the personal

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development field and coaching and you know, like companies and

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who I might like to model and and you know,

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I was sort of told some of those things, and

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I resisted it. I resisted it for probably two years really,

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and I kept arguing with spirit or I would say,

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I am not your girl. I'm not your girl, right,

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I'm you know, sixty years old or what I'm sixty

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seven now, so I was in my you know, mid sixties,

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and you know, I'm like, oh my god, I don't

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I don't know that I want to start another company.

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I don't. I don't know that I want to do this.

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I don't know that I can do this.

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So I had a lot of internal resistance. And I'll

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tell you something about resistance, and that is the opposite

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of that which is surrender. So I was here in

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my home one day, and this was probably a couple

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of years ago, maybe a little bit more, and the

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idea consumed me and it would not leave me alone.

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So it was something I was doing all the time, right,

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I would write and get information and try to assemble

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it and you know, listen to what I was hearing

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and make sense of it, and you know, so that

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body of work and beliefs of began to grow. So

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I finally was meditating here one day and I said,

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I for cried out loud. I have some of the

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most interesting conversations with you know, with whoever's up there. Right, Oh,

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you're not going to leave me alone, tell me what

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to do, right, just you're not leaving me alone. The

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idea literally would not release me. And so I got

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one word, which was right, and I said, okay, all right,

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you've told me to write before. But I surrendered, And

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I literally said, I surrender. I will write. I don't

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know what I'm writing for or two I've been writing,

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but I'll write some more. And within an hour of

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me surrendering to accept this mission. I guess it still

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sounds crazy, but I got a text message from a

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friend of mine that said, Hey, I've got a friend

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that's a publisher in Canada and she's doing a compilation

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book with Les Brown. Would you like to be on

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the project. I'll introduce you. So at that point I

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kind of rolled my eyes up to the sky and said, well,

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that's kind of cute, right, very funny. Obviously I joined

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the project. I could not say no. And it was

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that chapter really released in me what I thought would

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be a book about my recovery from my divorce. And

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it was during the time of writing that chapter that

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I realized that I could launch a company in conjunction

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with the launch of the book. So that's what I did.

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That's what you did. So here's the question, is you

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work with people, And we were referring to this a

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little bit earlier. When you work with people and you're

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helping them to quote create a new life, because obviously

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the life that they have, that we've all created to

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a large degree, has to do, as you say, with

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our upbringing, with the religion, with the school, with the parents,

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with the family, with the society, all of that. When

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you're working with people, how do you help them to

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get to the point where they really understand what their

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genuine internal values are rather than what they've been told

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they should be. Okay, how do you help them to

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get to the point where they can identify what those

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values are so that they can start to align their

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new life with those values, so that you know, as

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we said, you know, be careful what you wish for

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because you might get it. Well, this time, what they

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wish for they actually love because they got it well.

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You know. It's interesting to use the word values because

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I believe that when we become so out of alignment

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with our values, are deeply held values, and we sort

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of lose track of those along the way, right, They're

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always there, but we lose track of them a little bit,

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and our deepest desires, you know, when the further away

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that we get from those and we have clues throughout

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our life that tells us that I think that that's

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when we go into crisis or when you know, when

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we have a lot of anxiety or unhappiness. I start

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all my clients with a whole life assessment. I mean

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we really everybody's seen a wheel of life probably that's

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done any personal development work, and it's a five minute exercise,

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and you know, the object is if any portion of

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that wheel, you know is out of balance in your life,

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is like this. But I go much much deeper into

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that and really look at every component of your life right,

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your your financial, your relationships, your family, your job, you

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know whatever. There's a whole number of life domains there,

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and I look at those and really ask people, you know,

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when when's the last time that that you perhaps have

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stopped and really looked at all of those things in

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great detail and meditated them and thought about them and

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journaled about it and really dug deep to reveal what

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was going on in that area of your life. And

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the other thing that I do is, you know, people

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tend to know what's irritating them, but they lose track

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of what's going really well, right, what's irritating us and

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aggravating us seems to outweigh all the goods. So I

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really look at the good as well, and I think

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that that's important. And so that's kind of the foundation

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for the work, is really taking a good look at

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what's going on. And then we move to those life

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domains and we start looking at aspirations. What would you

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like to be doing in that area of your life?

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but how do you want to feel about it? Right,

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we lose track of how do we really want to

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feel about something? So we delve into that and then

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the next piece of my process I call architect the bridge.

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So we start to look at all of that. Now,

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I'm one thing that has served me really well throughout

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all my different careers is you know, I can kind

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of see a big picture and I can see the details,

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and I can see patterns very very quickly, and it

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has served me really well. So we start looking at patterns,

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because if something showing up in one area of your life,

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it's showing up somewhere else. It probably just looks different

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and it's disguised. So we start looking at those patterns

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and then you know, we create a bridge, We architect

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a bridge to move you in a practical and efficient

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and effective way toward your aspirations. And if we find

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patterns in there, which we always do, we can choose

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a pattern to work on and bring your awareness up

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on that and realign your life with the way you

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would rather that pattern be working and make it work

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for you instead of against you, to move you in

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the direction that you want to go in.

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How many times when you're doing that, and where you

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start to observe patterns, because we all have patterns in

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our lives, right and oftentimes those patterns are not really

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doing this well. In other words, sometimes these patterns are

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really causing us grief and we're not really happy with

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the outcome, and so on and so forth. And as

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you do that, if do you often come up against

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a situation where you realize that that pattern was based

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on a quote purpose or value or whatever that happens

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to be belief, and that it goes the very pattern

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that is causing negativity in their life is actually something

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that came as a child or as growing up, And

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how do they recognize that that pattern has to be

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changed and that belief that they've been living with for

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their entire life may not be the correct belief for

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their life.

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tied to a belief or some sort of self sabotaging behavior, right,

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And I think that once we begin to realize, you know,

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when I work with my clients and once they really

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begin to realize the impact of it, Yeah, it's helpful

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to know where it originated from, and we can do

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some work on that, but it's not actually necessary in

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every case. Right, Let's take let me see, let's take

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a client that you know, a woman that's an entrepreneur

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and she has a small business and gosh, you know,

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she's just not achieving what she wants to achieve. And

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this is this is an examp I'll give you. And

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you know, she can't hire anybody, she doesn't have enough

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money to hire anybody, and and you know, she's just

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got too much to do, and you know, she's just drowning.

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And when you really start looking at that, you know,

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what are you contributing to that? You know, that's a

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really important question to ask, and that's how we get

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down to some of that. So in her case, she's

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not hiring anybody because she has trust issues, right, she

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doesn't trust that anybody. She's a perfectionist. Actually, she has

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a self Cytodoget behavior. She's a perfectionist. Nobody can do

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it as well as she can do it.

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Well, you can't grow your business with that belief, right,

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you just can't. So sometimes it's just the practical reality

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in there, right, and the money issue. You know, her

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money issue. She's very frustrated. So she was spending a

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lot of money on luxury items, you know, so don't

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do that for a little bit, right, Let's let's not

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spend some of that money, and let's try to hire

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someone for you part time and communicate with them and

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nurture that relationship so that you do create a valued

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and trustworthy employee. And it can be done. I've had

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many over my different careers, So you know, do we

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need to really figure out where it comes from? Sometimes

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they will figure that out, right, it's you know, whether

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they got yelled at as a child for you know,

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they had to have straight a's.

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Or what have you.

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But you know, we're adults. So at some point, just

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let's let it go and let's not blame anybody for it.

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Let's just look at our behavior and what it's contributing

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to our lives, because that's really all we have control over.

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Well, And I know, as I was on your website,

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I noticed you advocate ef T, NLP, mindset, consciousness, all

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those types of things, and those are actually activities that

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I know many individuals who are mentoring or guiding used

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to help someone to really discover those beliefs that are

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not good for them, that are actually self sabotaging. So

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have you found any of those work well? Or do

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you find that you use a combination of all of

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those things as you're working with people?

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You know, I kind of use a combination a lot

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of the Theta healing training. The Theta healing training that

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I did, and I have a number number of certifications,

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probably fifteen in that modality alone resulted in an enormous

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amount of healing within me, and I love the modality.

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It also took a few years.

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Yes, overnight doesn't work, does it necessarily?

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I think we can do it a little faster than that,

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right and tapping, I love EFT. Emotions definitely get stuck

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in our bodies and it is a great way to

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release it and if we storytell through tapping, that's actually

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an amazing practice. If the person, you know, a person

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learns to do that, it can't necessarily be me tapping

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them through that. But if I teach them how to

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do that and they can sit with it, your mind

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00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.720
and your body will delve into that and it will

463
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.559
start revealing the secrets to you. So you know, those

464
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.599
modalities are really very very helpful.

465
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.599
Well they are, And as you talk about EFT, it

466
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.799
fascinates me because you know, I've heard about it, I've

467
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.559
tried it, but really don't know how to do it, okay,

468
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.799
And I think a lot of people listen to that,

469
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.680
and I know that there's tremendous science out there showing

470
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:05.119
value and the validity of that. But how on earth

471
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.440
does it work? And how do we learn to not

472
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.880
only just tap, you know, wherever we're going to tap,

473
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.799
but also what are the words we say to ourselves

474
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:16.440
or what are the words that we're saying to the

475
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:18.960
universe or whatever that is? How does that work?

476
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.559
You know, some of it is a bit mysterious, isn't it.

477
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:25.440
You know?

478
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:33.079
There you know there's a sequence and you know, we'll

479
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.519
take something really simple, like if you know, if you're

480
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.359
terrified of a dog, right, you know, you start tapping

481
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.599
out and so you know dogs are scary. A dog

482
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.960
bit me. You know, you go through the tapping and

483
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.680
as you go through each phase of it, right, you

484
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:55.039
just kind of keep repeating and you're releasing it. Right.

485
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.599
It opens your subconscious up. My belief is that it

486
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.359
does open your subcon just up, and you can go

487
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:06.160
back and remember that time and tap through it and

488
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:12.960
the words come to you, the words and the images

489
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:19.720
will come to you just naturally. It's it's magically, it

490
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.480
really is magic. But our subconscious knows everything right, it's

491
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.079
back there and it's trying to protect us all the time.

492
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.920
So you know, I talk a lot of bringing the

493
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.200
dogs up here again too. I talk a lot of

494
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:40.920
everything's perspective, right, everything's perspective and what creates joy for us?

495
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:41.200
Right?

496
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.079
That my treasure map to joy. That's the outcome of

497
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.359
the of the program that I do. Is it's unique

498
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:50.160
to each of us.

499
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:50.440
Right.

500
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.559
So you can have a fluffy little dog with its

501
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.559
tail wagging and giving you all sorts of positive signs,

502
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:01.319
run up to two friends. One friend she loves dogs.

503
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.079
You know, she'll bend down pettit, kiss it. You know

504
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.720
she's it brings her joy. You know that dog brings

505
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.839
her joy. The other friend may have been bitten by

506
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.160
a child or as a child, and she's terrified of

507
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.279
the dog. The situation is the same. We have a

508
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.079
friendly dog wagging its tail that's not going to cause

509
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:27.839
anybody any harm. The reactions are completely different because it's

510
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.599
our world view. So that's why I think it's so

511
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:37.440
important to really delve into those things and figure that out.

512
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.799
And if you're happy being afraid of dogs the rest

513
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.119
of your life, go right ahead, work on something else.

514
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.160
Right.

515
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.880
If you don't want to be then you know you

516
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.279
can take small steps in a direction to change it,

517
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.400
and you know that analogy will work across the board.

518
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.799
Right. Well, that's true, and I know you've talked about

519
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.400
and you may be already have covered that, but I

520
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.160
know again when I was on your website, I was

521
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:07.200
looking at this four states of being? What are they?

522
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.440
And you have you identified those? Because one of one

523
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.680
of my beliefs is that we have been brought up

524
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.279
so much to do you know, do this, do that,

525
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:19.680
And particularly when you look at religion particularly, it's like

526
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.079
you've got to do this, you got to do that,

527
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.960
you got to do that, And there's a little focus

528
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.640
on being, on becoming. And yet what really struck me

529
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.960
is when I saw those words four states of being,

530
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:34.960
What what are those? If you haven't already covered them,

531
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:35.680
or let's cover them.

532
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.319
Yes, it really, you know, it really is being and

533
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.960
you're you're right. We're taught to do right, We're taught

534
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.680
to you know, do our homework, get good grades, you know,

535
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.440
go to college, get you know, that's what we're taught

536
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.799
to do. But we're not really taught to be with ourselves.

537
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.799
So the first phase of that, and they're really I

538
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:03.000
call them aspects. They're not sequential, they're not linear, because

539
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.400
we can be in any of these aspects of modern

540
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.160
consciousness at any time. One part of our life can

541
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.400
be in one area and one part can be in another.

542
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.519
So the automaton two point zero is it's really running

543
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.519
without that part of your life. You know, part of

544
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:24.359
your life is really running without any intentional conscious direction

545
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.559
from you. It just is right, it's already in motion

546
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:36.160
and you're being pulled along with it. And oftentimes that's

547
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:41.720
when you know, we really begin to get dissatisfied. Right,

548
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.559
we might be in a career that you know. I

549
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.640
had a friend of mine years ago, she was an

550
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:54.359
attorney and she worked and worked and worked and worked.

551
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.440
And worked, and they the firm she was in, abused

552
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:02.680
her and abused her and abused her, and it was

553
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:10.000
she was miserable for years, miserable, and it took forever

554
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.719
what seemed like forever, for her to actually step out

555
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:18.119
of that. And there was a bigger life crisis involved

556
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.000
for her in that which caused her to finally step out. Right,

557
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:26.519
So it impacts everything. So that's the automaton.

558
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.960
Right when we think we don't have choices, we have

559
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.719
to keep putting that foot in front of the other

560
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.280
and just going down that path. We do always have choices.

561
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:40.079
So the next aspect I call is an awakening soul.

562
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.000
And I think there is a push to get us

563
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.119
into that aspect, and that is some level of dissatisfaction,

564
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:54.280
some crisis, some anxiety, some happiness. We finally start listening

565
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.360
to the voice in our heads it says, oh my god,

566
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.199
what are you doing? There has to be more, and

567
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.599
that put pushes us into the awakening soul. And that's

568
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.880
really when we begin to explore and and learn and

569
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:12.320
start to collect some knowledge and learn about things that

570
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.880
we probably weren't taught before. You know, I learned a

571
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:22.000
ton of things through that phase, right, So you know, meditation,

572
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.400
I didn't know anything about meditation. You know, it's kind

573
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.079
of dagone hard to be still, but then you you

574
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.000
discover you know, I can remember I discovered that I

575
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.679
could feel the energy moving around my body. Right, And

576
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.079
we're not we're not really taught that, you know, at

577
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.960
least in this culture and whatnot. So you know, so

578
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.639
that's the awakening soul. And then in that aspect of

579
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:53.400
modern consciousness, we begin to make some changes in our lives, right,

580
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.199
and we begin to adopt some new behaviors that are

581
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:59.480
healthier for us. And by healthier, I mean they're bringing

582
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.400
us close are to our center of being and our

583
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:04.400
values and our desires and where we want to be.

584
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:10.039
And we start to embody some of them, right. And

585
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.000
when we start to embody some of them, I call

586
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:18.360
that aspect the illuminated adept. And an illuminated adept continues

587
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.360
this learning, right, And the thing that is so interesting

588
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.039
about this, and I think this is probably why so

589
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.039
many of us get into this this business. Once we

590
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:33.400
start learning some of these secrets and we start feeling better.

591
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.239
Doesn't everybody want to feel better? We want everybody to

592
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:42.159
feel better. We want everybody to know this stuff, right,

593
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.119
So then we transition it to what I call a transformer,

594
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.960
And a transformer has transformed many, many things about themselves.

595
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.719
I'm a completely different person than I was a dozen

596
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:58.000
years ago. And we also transform the lives of those

597
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:03.840
around us. And whether that's you know, I think that

598
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.800
it all begins within and it radiates outward from us

599
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.960
into our communities, whatever that community is, whether it's a

600
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.880
geographic community, whether it's being kind to your neighbors, whether

601
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:20.639
you're you know, whatever, whatever it is, a nonprofit, whatever

602
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:20.960
it is.

603
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.119
And so that's the ultimate is that transformative Where do

604
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:29.159
you find that once they can reach that transformative where

605
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.440
they're really reaching out and touching the lives of others

606
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:36.000
and so forth, that they start to really experience true joy?

607
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.000
And do they finally come to a realization of who

608
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:44.079
they really are and the goodness that dwells within them?

609
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.079
You know, I think we do. And it's you know,

610
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:53.239
it's it's interesting because you know, I talk about treasure

611
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.079
mount to joy, and of course not all moments are joyful. Right,

612
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.519
we have a death in the family, we're going to grieve.

613
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:07.079
You know, there's there are things that make us unhappy.

614
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:11.000
But what we learned through this process is to still

615
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:15.000
stay stay centered and honor those things as well. Right. So,

616
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.159
if we stay centered and allow ourselves to process something

617
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.960
such as grief, we understand it, we process it in

618
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.920
a healthy way. We don't get stuck there. And that's

619
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.800
that's the key thing. We don't get stuck, right, But

620
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.760
we can honor those moments and reap the good from

621
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:44.639
them and the lessons from them and acquire more Oh,

622
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.559
the word, the word is just left my just left

623
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.800
my head right now. Virtues, there's all I could think

624
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.840
of as values. You know, we acquire more virtues along

625
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.400
the way, and all of that just rolls into making

626
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.519
us a happier, more joyful, centered, well balanced person.

627
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.519
So do you have other than yourself? Do you have

628
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.840
an example of someone that you've worked with where they

629
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.360
really were struggling so desperately and you were able to

630
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.719
help them to get to the point that they're now

631
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.840
really who they really are and enjoying life and experiencing

632
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:19.800
that joy and piece.

633
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.480
Yeah, you know, it's it's it's a process. It really

634
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:27.719
is a process. And the most interesting thing about it

635
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.719
is the universe never tires of giving us lessons.

636
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:32.360
So true.

637
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:38.840
So it really is adopting the mindset of continued learning

638
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.800
and growth. Right. So that's that's what I see in

639
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:48.000
people that I work with. Right, They they level some

640
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.079
things out, they get they get portions of their life

641
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.840
under control. They start to understand themselves better, how they

642
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.239
relate to the world, and that makes them happier. Right.

643
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.159
Sometimes it's not even a big change that's necessary. I

644
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.039
had actually have two things I'd like to share with you.

645
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.559
I had a client who you know, had a great

646
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:15.639
marriage and you know she still does, but he retired,

647
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:22.679
and so that changes the dynamic, right, dynamic.

648
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.880
A lot with co Why do you think we had

649
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:26.960
so many divorces?

650
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.119
You know, it's interesting. She was still working and loved

651
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.800
loved her work, and she is still working, and they

652
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.880
were starting to argue, and she was starting to dread

653
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.440
going home, Right, she just was starting to dread going

654
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:45.880
home because now, now get this, you're irritated to get

655
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.239
home when you get home and someone is happy to

656
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.159
see you and wants to spend time with you, right,

657
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.039
So let's think about that. Let's talk about that for

658
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.280
a minute. So, you know, and I'm a practical gal.

659
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.360
I'm a real practical gal. So so she was absolutely

660
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.000
delighted because we came up with a strategy. You know,

661
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.719
set the expectation, you know, let him know, honey, it's Monday,

662
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.920
it's my first day back at work this week. It's

663
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.559
going to be a rough day. You know, what you

664
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.960
could do for me? I would really love it if

665
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.119
when I come home you could give me a half

666
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.440
an hour to decompress, you know, change my clothes. Could

667
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.880
you make dinner for us tonight? And tomorrow night we'll

668
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.159
watch that movie you've you know, we'll get carried out

669
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.159
and watch that movie that you've been wanting to see.

670
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:38.360
So it changed, just that strategy of dealing with those

671
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:45.679
circumstances changed it completely. Wow, So it's not always a

672
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.400
big thing. I had a conversation with a woman a

673
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:53.719
couple days ago. You know, talk to a lot of

674
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:59.800
divorce women, and you know, she's, you know, oh my gosh,

675
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:05.119
you know, I'm remembering happy times of our marriage. Why

676
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.719
won't this just leave me alone? Why won't it go away?

677
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.679
I think she was married twenty five years and I

678
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:16.199
just wanted to all go away. Well no, you know,

679
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:18.280
I meant a lot of women that think that all

680
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.800
of those years of their lives were wasted, and it's

681
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:25.599
not wasted. It's fine to cherish the good memories. It's

682
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:31.039
fine to appreciate the difficult times and how you grew

683
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.880
through those, right, it might have taken a while, but

684
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.599
to appreciate how you grew as a person through that.

685
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:41.159
But it doesn't mean that we dismiss decades of our

686
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:50.719
life because the marriage ended, and I gave her permission,

687
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:55.840
and then she gave herself permission to cherish those memories.

688
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.559
And the thing that I pointed out to her, you know,

689
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.639
she was already in another relationship and she said, you know,

690
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.920
I just want to move on. And I said, honey,

691
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:12.239
you've moved on. You have moved on. Right, you're divorced,

692
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.480
you've been divorced for a few years, you're in another relationship.

693
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.800
You love your relationship, and you're haunting yourself thinking that

694
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.840
these good memories that you had in that period of

695
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.400
your life are you know, they're troubling you. That I

696
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.000
shouldn't trouble you. Don't let that trouble you, it doesn't

697
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:36.920
impact the relationship you're in. Now, you've already you've already

698
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:38.320
changed your life.

699
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.559
And so it really is it is a mindset, and

700
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.679
then it's a mindset. But as you say, then you

701
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go in and approach certain circumstances with a different mindset.

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And as you do that, now you're taking control of

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your life. Is that a fair statement? Yes?

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I think so, because a lot of times we just

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don't know, right, Like she just really didn't.

706
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No.

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Her belief was that she just needed to put all

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that behind her. She didn't want to have a good memory.

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She didn't want to miss that part of her marriage

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at all. There was a lot of bad in that marriage,

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but she didn't want to miss the good. And we're

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such an either or society, right It's you know, we

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either release everything that had to do like in her instance,

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we either release and let it go and we're not

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ever going to think about that twenty five years of

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our life. You know, we either do that or oh

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my god, doesn't mean I'm still in love with him? Well, no,

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you know it can be both. We can I love.

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That both And it's not either or, it's both, and.

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Yes, and that is so often the case, and we

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just don't know that. And sometimes we just need to

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give people permission like her example, right, give her permission

723
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that it's okay, you know, it's okay to cherish that moment.

724
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So as we come to a close, unfortunately, what would

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be a message that you'd like to share with the audience?

726
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Oh gosh. So one thing that I work with a

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lot is our emotional triggers, and emotional triggers really give

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us insight into our subconscious.

729
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Right.

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Our subconscious is pretty much in the unconscious. It influences

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everything we do, but we're not aware of it most

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of the time. So I call emotional triggers a waypoint

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on the treasure map to joy. Right, So if you

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want to start getting into your head and figuring out

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what's going on, look at what's triggering you and then

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ask why why is that triggering me? And then just

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keep going a little bit deeper. There's actually, I guess

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I'm allowed to say this. There's actually a free resource

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on my website, charting your Treasure Map to Joy, that

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has a little workbook in it about your triggers, and

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that in and of itself is could be some really

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profound work.

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Okay, so your website is modern Consciousness modernconsciousness dot com

744
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and they can go there and they can take that,

745
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they can look at that treasure map to Joy. Right.

746
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.960
Absolutely, there's a few resources on there, and then you

747
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.199
can you can find me everywhere from my website right,

748
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my social media, email, contact whatever.

749
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Perfect Stacy. Thanks so much. This has been a fascinating discussion.

750
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I've really enjoyed it.

751
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Thank you. I've enjoyed it as well, and folks, thanks

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for listening.

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I hope this is making a difference for you. Go

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to the website because there's so much value in what

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we're talking about today. Anyway, does doctor Doug saying, have

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a wonderful week and no mistay