The Transformation Promise

28 Days to Love, Joy and Prosperity. Wouldn’t we all love that!
Well, it is possible.
And my guest, Johanna Derbolowsky will share with us how that can be achieved by dividing and successfully using the physical, mental-emotional and spiritual...
28 Days to Love, Joy and Prosperity. Wouldn’t we all love that!
Well, it is possible.
And my guest, Johanna Derbolowsky will share with us how that can be achieved by dividing and successfully using the physical, mental-emotional and spiritual structure to become aware of what needs shifting and how to achieve it.
Dr. Doug & Friends Radio Show is broadcast on K4HD Radio (www.k4hd.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com).
Inspire Vision TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).
Dr. Doug & Friends Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.
1
00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:06.200
This program is designed to provide general
information with regards to the subject matters covered.
2
00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:10.320
This information is given with the understanding
that neither the hosts, guests,
3
00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:17.440
sponsors, or station are engaged in
rendering any specific and personal medical, financial,
4
00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:22.879
legal counseling, professional service, or
any advice. You should seek the
5
00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:31.640
services of competent professionals before applying or
trying any suggested ideas. At the end
6
00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:35.439
of the day, it's not about
what you have or even what you've accomplished.
7
00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:39.840
It's about what you've done with those
accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted
8
00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:44.640
at, who you've made better.
It's about what you've given back. Denzel
9
00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:49.759
Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision.
Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives
10
00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:55.479
of others and to inspire you to
do the same. Laura Bala, Welcome
11
00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.799
to the show. How are you
doing. I am fabulous, Doctor Doug,
12
00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.640
thank you for having me here.
Well, I really appreciate you reaching
13
00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.719
out. I think that the things
that you have to say are just amazing.
14
00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.879
I'd love for you to share with
the audience, give you give them
15
00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:15.079
a bit of your background, who
you are and how on earth did you
16
00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.120
get to this point in your life, because I know there's been a life
17
00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.519
transition going on here. Yeah,
well, we all have these amazing personal
18
00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:30.519
stories of how we move through challenges
and tragedies and triumphs, and so many
19
00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:37.920
of us right bring in the wake
of going into adulthood many experiences from childhood
20
00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:44.400
that I feel really can either disempower
or empower us. And early on I
21
00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:51.200
just connected to a mindset of how
to empower the way I thought about the
22
00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:57.359
world around me and how I really
moved through my experiences every day And always
23
00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:04.439
give a heartfelt shout out to my
brother Christopher. He actually created this amazing
24
00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:09.759
formula coming out of the professional world
of gymnastics, part of our US team.
25
00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.159
He was a coach there for many
years, and both he and I
26
00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:20.639
always had this unique synergy of thinking
we were almost superheroes and we could accomplish
27
00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:27.919
anything. So we kind of moved
through life always wanting to tap into something
28
00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:34.639
beyond just what was the daily routine
of the human condition. So we just
29
00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.080
kind of started thinking big. But
years, of course go by, life
30
00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:45.080
settles in and that childhood dream of
wanting to write a book and wanting to
31
00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:49.360
empower the world, and all of
how we think we can accomplish these big
32
00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.639
things in life. All of a
sudden, I realized, like whoa life
33
00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:59.199
is passing fast? And I decided
to start creating the science of Empowerment.
34
00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.360
And I sat down one day to
write this book, really inspired by this
35
00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:07.919
formula that my brother and I were
using in our training facility. So we
36
00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:15.840
have a neuromuscular training facility, and
we wanted to really begin working mindset knowledge,
37
00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:23.120
information and connecting that mind body consciousness
awareness in our daily routine. I
38
00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.599
saw what it did for myself,
my family, my children. Then I
39
00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:31.360
started just applying it out in the
world when people wouldn't even realize what I
40
00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:38.400
was doing, and the feedback and
the reaction and the response really was an
41
00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:43.439
indicator that I was tapping into something
that was needed. And in the beginning
42
00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.879
of writing the book, I had
a pretty severe injury. I was doing
43
00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:53.120
a backflip over an octagon and I
ended up going into an over year long
44
00:03:53.439 --> 00:04:00.719
can cost journey and it really kind
of turned my life inside out. I'm
45
00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.680
super strong, I'm very athletic.
Nothing gets me down. I broke my
46
00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:10.080
leg skiing skied down the hill one
day, so I've got that kind of
47
00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:15.400
energy in me and this really took
me down. And in that process of
48
00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:23.079
going through something that was quite debilitating
for me and finding my way through it,
49
00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:27.920
not just out of it, really
helped create the Science of Empowerment.
50
00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:32.800
And I was able to tap into
this knowledge and information that I truly feel
51
00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:39.240
was not my own. I believe
it was coming from a source beyond my
52
00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:46.759
level of intellect, and tapping into
human potential really allowed me to create something
53
00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.319
that now, of course is helping
you know, thousands of people around the
54
00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:54.839
world. So I created the book
The Science of Empowerment. Of course,
55
00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:58.800
coaching, a very unique style of
coaching came out of that. And now
56
00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.560
I'm really moving around the world meeting
wonderful people such as yourself, that are
57
00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:11.319
creating incredible programs and co collaborating with
other thought leaders on how we can empower
58
00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:16.600
the human condition and really reach the
masses and start to uplift and elevate how
59
00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:25.160
we all show up and how we
all interact in this experience. Yes,
60
00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:30.319
and you know, in the world
today that's so essential, where we're seeing
61
00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:36.360
such lack of healthy interaction and you
know, and you know, sometimes I
62
00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:42.959
think I was meditating this morning and
one of the things that came to my
63
00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.000
mind was you know so often,
and I kind of had the sense that
64
00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.160
you had that are and I'm going
to go out and empower, you know,
65
00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:53.959
and make a difference for millions of
people or whatever. And finally for
66
00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.160
me, it was just like,
you know what, No, if I
67
00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:01.199
can touch one life, that's going
to make a difference. And so it's
68
00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:09.160
really fascinating how you're reaching out and
really affecting multiple, multiple, multiple lives.
69
00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.279
And let's talk about it a little
bit. Within the Science of Empowerment,
70
00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:18.480
you really talk about five empowering principles, and before we get started with
71
00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:26.040
that, I want you to really
define what you mean by empowering. Yeah,
72
00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:30.279
thank you. You and I were
talking before we went on to the
73
00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.439
recording, and I had said that
there's a synergy in an alignment, and
74
00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:40.399
you can feel that when this really
becomes your life. It's not what you
75
00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.839
think about in the sense of oh
I would like to get there, but
76
00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.959
it's how you live and when you
match those energies. And in the book,
77
00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:55.000
I actually write about that specifically one
person, one transformation, and then
78
00:06:55.439 --> 00:07:00.519
there are two and now you feel
what it is to really ex size,
79
00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:05.399
that compassion and that connectedness to another
human being. So touching one life is
80
00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:11.680
for me like touching a million lives. It has that impact. The really
81
00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:19.360
beautiful thing that I love about the
word empowering is it really expands perspective for
82
00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:26.079
the individual. So I may look
at exercise as a form of empowerment.
83
00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:31.319
Someone else may look at being in
a leadership role as an empowerment movement.
84
00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.399
We can look at faith or religion, we can look at knowledge. So
85
00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:42.720
what I love about the word empowering
is it is such a unique journey for
86
00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:49.000
each individual and how they see themselves
showing up in that process of living an
87
00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:54.519
empowered life. And part of the
beauty of the science of empowerment and the
88
00:07:54.560 --> 00:08:00.600
book it isn't about me in my
story. It is a language that it
89
00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:07.839
actually tunes into the reader to remind
them how empowered they can be when they
90
00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:16.199
choose to awaken to that personal journey. So I think empowerment is self discovery.
91
00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.600
It's how we choose to show up
for ourselves first and foremost, and
92
00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:26.600
how we can use our journeys,
the highs and the lows, the positive
93
00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:33.919
and the negative aspects of that and
really be in a role of compassionate leader
94
00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.080
for others. So when we authentically
share who we are and that journey of
95
00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:46.360
empowerment, there is a natural occurrence
of inspiration sometimes motivation for someone else that's
96
00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:52.039
listening how they can begin their own
journey. So I think for everyone it's
97
00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:58.240
an individualized journey. It's an awakening
to tapping into their brilliance, their beauty,
98
00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:03.679
their genius of how they can truly
live an empowering life. Well,
99
00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.240
and as you talk about that,
what comes to my mind immediately, as
100
00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.799
you were talking about how someone who's
empowered business or so forth, I would
101
00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:18.279
say, is there a question maybe
is there a difference between what people consider
102
00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:26.600
power and what people consider empowerment?
Yeah? Excuse me, Yeah, I
103
00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:33.000
definitely there's to me a world of
difference. Power for me tends to be
104
00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:41.840
almost a play out of illusion or
disillusionment. Empowering for me is something that
105
00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:52.720
we tap into in order to evolve
the relationship or the interaction or the experience
106
00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.360
of not only myself but of others. So I think there's a big difference
107
00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.039
there, and we see that in
the political arena, We see that in
108
00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.799
what we think is leadership out in
our world. But deep down in our
109
00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.399
instinct we know that something is not
quite balanced there. So we easily can
110
00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:22.159
see when power is being used for
self serving and when empowering messaging is being
111
00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:28.080
applied for the care and consideration of
the masses, and it's much different thing.
112
00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:35.159
It's something that reflects integrity, kindness, love, thoughtfulness, all of
113
00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.840
those type of things. So let's
talk. You talk about five empowering principles
114
00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.840
in your book, you can.
Let's just go step by step with those.
115
00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:50.320
Yeah, So this is at the
heart of the J three equals E
116
00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.320
formula. And this is the brilliance
and the beauty of what my brother put
117
00:10:54.440 --> 00:11:01.759
in place. When you apply these
five principles in order and you move into
118
00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:09.000
the power seat of choice of energy, now we begin to really create this
119
00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:18.200
sensation, this connectedness to how we
can empower our own lives. So the
120
00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:26.240
five principles are awareness, willingness,
accountability, critical thinking, and energy.
121
00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.039
So there's a gentle acramen for a
wake. And then we move into the
122
00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.879
understanding of negative and positive energies.
And as we all know in the quantum
123
00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:41.000
world, right, those are the
two energies that we have. But we
124
00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:46.240
play neutral in the middle because we
all need neutrality when we're in a negative
125
00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:52.639
state of being. We're upset,
we're frustrated, we're scared, we're really
126
00:11:52.720 --> 00:12:00.600
reacting from patterns. We need a
moment to move into that neutral grounding,
127
00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.200
catch our breath, meditate, take
a walk, you know, pull on
128
00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:13.960
some tool skill modality to help soften
that negative energy that's in momentum. And
129
00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:18.279
here in that state of neutrality,
now we can really rely on how we
130
00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:26.639
can up level into a state of
positive awareness or positive thinking or positive response.
131
00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.039
So let's say there's something going on
in your life, you had to
132
00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.440
fight with your spouse. We move
into asking what am I aware of in
133
00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:41.559
the moment, and most of us
know this isn't good. This is a
134
00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.919
repeat. I've had this conversation,
this argument a thousand and one times.
135
00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:52.600
What am I personally willing to do? Stop the blame right, stop projecting,
136
00:12:54.519 --> 00:13:00.960
stop reacting. I am willing to
look at myself and learn how to
137
00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.440
calm it down for a moment and
start responding. And I do this because
138
00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:13.240
I become accountable to my choices,
my reaction, my choice of responding to
139
00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:20.559
the situation rather than being fueled and
just again repeating those patterns. Now we
140
00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:26.559
move into critical thinking, we take
the emotionality out of it, we stop
141
00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:35.200
looking at it as a blame game, and again just really continuing this momentum,
142
00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:43.240
this algorithm of reaction, because we
know when we are reacting from emotionality,
143
00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.360
it's really coming from a wound,
it's coming from some unhealed trauma,
144
00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:54.120
it's coming from almost the fire,
and really not the calming nature of who
145
00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.600
we can really be when we show
up in a more balanced way. So
146
00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:03.200
critical thinking is such an or principle
to apply when we're in the middle of
147
00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:09.840
this reactive situation. Now we go
into energy, the fifth principle. Energy
148
00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:16.159
is in everything, and we move
into this power seat of choice where we
149
00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:22.039
understand that we have the ability to
tap into the awareness that this is a
150
00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:31.519
negative environment, the willingness to neutralize
it. We reinforce our own personal accountability
151
00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.320
in that process of experience. We
take that emotional negative charge out, we
152
00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:45.320
start to think critical thoughts, become
more of a higher positive thinking individual,
153
00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:52.120
and we choose neutrality with the intention
of moving into a more positive resolve.
154
00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:58.399
So listen, let's go into the
awareness. Let's start with the awareness.
155
00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:03.320
Okay, is I think that I
think one of the biggest challenges that people
156
00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:09.519
have is the lack of awareness.
And you know, you see it all
157
00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.720
of the time, and we observe
that in many cases where people just are
158
00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.759
living lives that are not comfortable for
them. They hate it, they're miserable,
159
00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.159
and yet for some reason, the
awareness of saying and it goes into
160
00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.960
the second thing too, about the
accountability, but they're really not aware.
161
00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.960
How do you help someone or how
do you suggest someone learn to become more
162
00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:46.000
aware of what's going on and understanding
that, you know what, this reality
163
00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:52.840
that I'm experiencing is not necessarily reality, it's what I have chosen to experience.
164
00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.600
How do you help someone to become
aware? Yeah, so what I've
165
00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:02.559
done, and there's many things that
you can do. But I'll ask someone,
166
00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.919
are you aware of what the weather
is outside? Is it sunny?
167
00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:08.559
Is it cloudy? Well, of
course I can look out the window.
168
00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:15.720
So you remind them that there's this
automatic right response system that we all have
169
00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:21.279
built into the human condition. Now
I'll say, okay, find something that
170
00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:26.320
maybe you aren't aware of what you
see is there now that you're placing your
171
00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.799
awareness on it. I'm just picking
this because I have a beautiful vision of
172
00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:33.200
trees outside. Well, the weeds
are changing. Okay, were you aware
173
00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.480
of that this morning? Not really? Just got up, had my coffee,
174
00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.320
got the kids ready, whatever the
story is, okay. So now
175
00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.279
you're starting to tune in a little
bit that when you place your attention just
176
00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:52.120
on the experience of awareness, you
can see how quickly your awareness moves from
177
00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.600
just oh it's raining, I have
to put a coat on, to wow,
178
00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.759
look at the vibrant orange on that
tree over there. I'll begin to
179
00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:07.519
bring that awareness into something so simple, so soft, of an expression of
180
00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:12.920
awareness that you can see in their
mind. They start to realize if I
181
00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.440
take a moment and I just stop
the routine, I stop the pattern,
182
00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.440
right, which is the behavior,
which is the story, which becomes the
183
00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:29.000
personality, which is what allows us
to not be present in the moment,
184
00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:34.200
we're just on automatic. They start
to feel like, oh, I can
185
00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:41.759
notice something different. So that is
a very simple, very gentle way that
186
00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.960
we can use awareness no matter where
we are. So even if we're in
187
00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:51.319
a car and we're driving down the
same road and we're stressed out and we're
188
00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:55.519
going to work, and all of
what we know comes up, ask someone
189
00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.799
Okay, I want you to notice
one thing on that drive that you've never
190
00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.240
known before. And then they come
back in right to the next session and
191
00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.119
you start coaching and they're like,
I noticed three things. Ooh, look
192
00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.480
at that. There's your awareness.
You're already connecting to your own awareness and
193
00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.279
your own level. Now you bring
it in deeper. So when you're having
194
00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:22.240
an argument or there is some kind
of distortion in our environment, now we
195
00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.880
can say, okay, I am
aware that I've been here before. This
196
00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:32.200
is something that is so automatic to
me. It is on repeat. Hit
197
00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:37.680
the record, play it out.
Now, tell me when you had that
198
00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:42.440
disagreement. Something came up with our
teenage kids and we all went into that
199
00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.559
write that repeat of how we know
this plays out? What did you do
200
00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:52.359
differently? Because you were now aware
of something differently? And it is amazing
201
00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:59.599
when you open up the space for
someone else to start tuning in to that,
202
00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:07.480
how were of empowerment in their life? They start to see, oh,
203
00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:12.039
I thought I was in the power
position. I'm older, I'm wiser,
204
00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:18.640
I'm smarter. Your fall blame game
and they realized that that was disempowering
205
00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.920
them. Back to the conversation,
we just had around power. Now they
206
00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.200
start to understand that when they move
into an awareness, not only are they
207
00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:33.279
empowering themselves, they're actually empowering the
other person. Now we can start dialoguing
208
00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.799
very differently. Yes, and you
know the next step, which is the
209
00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:42.880
willingness that becomes. And I really
smile about this because I've been really looking
210
00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:47.599
at this for a couple of years
about writing a book called be Willing,
211
00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.359
you know, be aware, be
willing, be Free, And I only
212
00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:56.640
had three you've got five there.
But the reality is that I find that
213
00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:02.599
a lot of people are not necessarily
It takes a willingness to even be aware.
214
00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:04.799
It takes a willingness to be able
to say, you know what,
215
00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:11.599
I'm actually trying to really stop for
a moment and observe, maybe even step
216
00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:17.440
outside of myself for a minute and
just observe what's going on here. That
217
00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:22.200
willingness is something that I think can
be very difficult for people to develop.
218
00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:27.799
How do you help someone to develop
that willingness to be able to and,
219
00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:33.400
like I say, step outside of
themselves and observe the experience or the situation
220
00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:37.839
and go, like you say,
you know what, I'm going to become
221
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.400
more aware of what's really happening here. Yeah, willingness is a challenging principle
222
00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:48.319
to apply in our life, so
many of us. Again, it's seeded
223
00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:53.720
almost into the human condition from very
early on, not to really bloom and
224
00:20:53.839 --> 00:21:00.319
expand what this for me, this
absolute empowering pillar can present. So what
225
00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.799
I do, whether we're talking about
it with you know, a friend or
226
00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:14.279
we're coaching, is asking someone when
they're in that moment of a repeated cycle,
227
00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:21.200
same conversation, same right outcome,
terrible job, struggling with addiction,
228
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:29.799
overweight, whatever this scenario may be, if you stay connected to the unwillingness
229
00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.960
structure, that energy structure of unwillingness, tell me what your life will look
230
00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:37.920
like in a day, a week, a month, year, let alone
231
00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.559
three, four or five. Tell
me what that story is. I want
232
00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.599
you to go into it deeply and
give me every detail that you can.
233
00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.319
And honestly, for most people,
they don't even want to begin the story
234
00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:52.799
because they already know what it's going
to be, because it's what it's been.
235
00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:59.119
So now we start working negative,
positive, neutral, right within that
236
00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:03.559
principle of willingness. We start by
asking them, maybe give me something that
237
00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.480
you're unwilling to do that you've been
unwilling to do for someone, let's say
238
00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:12.000
that struggling with weight. They may
be I've been unwilling to put the food
239
00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:18.839
down. So you have to start
going into what is their story around that
240
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:27.160
unwillingness to change what actually is causing
them the pain. And there's a difference,
241
00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:32.839
as you know, therapy versus coaching. So I don't go into the
242
00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:36.839
therapy, but as a coach,
you listen for the cues, and if
243
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:42.039
you know that there is some really
deep seated trauma associated with the unwillingness,
244
00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:49.160
then of course you gently guide them
to a professional in that therapy style environment.
245
00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:55.559
If I have someone that I know
is right there off at that ridge
246
00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.200
and they're getting ready to peek over
it and sit on it and kind of
247
00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:03.799
rest in the out willingness, which
almost all of my clients read the book
248
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.880
first, so they're already primed for
what we go through in the coaching sessions.
249
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:15.000
They're ready. It's just a matter
of really supporting them in the disempowering
250
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:22.759
experience of unwillingness and the empowering experience
of learning what it is to become willing
251
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:29.920
to show up for yourself and your
life and really again creating an empowered life.
252
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.960
And most people, when they understand
that there's an option, an opportunity,
253
00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:38.720
a pathway for transformation, they will
begin to take that journey. It's
254
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:42.680
rare, and I've met anyone that
has, you know, And it's interesting
255
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:48.000
as you talk about therapy versus coaching. You know, there are people that
256
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:56.839
can literally do that introspective work and
really manage to heal themselves emotionally, physically,
257
00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.319
whatever that happens to be. There
are others that are just not quite
258
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.759
there yet, and they cannot be
afraid of therapy. They need to realize
259
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.039
that, you know what, I
need a little bit of extra help.
260
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:12.000
I'm not quite there yet. And
I think that's important for people to understand
261
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:18.240
and realize it's okay, It's totally
okay, you know, and you get
262
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:23.519
the whole awareness and you know the
willingness, and then you get into the
263
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:30.319
accountability. I love that part of
it because in our today's society, you
264
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:36.480
blame everybody else for what you're experiencing. And it's rare. I you know,
265
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:44.440
it's like, okay, here,
I am upset. Why what is
266
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:48.680
it? What triggered within me?
What experiences have I had that I'm allowing
267
00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.920
that to trigger me to the point
of being frustrated, upset, and to
268
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:59.119
be willing to take that accountability and
say, you know what, the fact
269
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.200
is I've worked with sometimes as I
taught one class, it's like I got
270
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.440
to bring a miriad. Okay,
so you know what, if you're having
271
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:08.960
a challenge and you're starting to blame
someone, stop for a minute, grab
272
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.920
that mirror and put it up in
front of you, because there's the challenge.
273
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:18.640
It isn't them, it's you.
I just did this with a client
274
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.160
the other day. They were just
in their stuff and I said, Okay,
275
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.440
take a moment, take a chair
and just go sit. Take five
276
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:33.400
minutes, breathe, calm and go
have a five minute conversation with yourself,
277
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:37.200
please, And of course that fits
into where we are within their coaching process.
278
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:42.640
It absolutely was transformative. They realized
again, we're going back to the
279
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:48.920
story that we believe that we were
a victim. And one thing I always
280
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.759
say is, first of all,
yes, therapy is one of the most
281
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:59.720
important healing modalities we have within the
human experience, and it is important for
282
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:04.720
those of us that have gone through
trauma and taking that journey to go through
283
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:10.960
it and come out with a sense
of almost accomplishment. Right, so we
284
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:18.839
can move from that victimhood and really
empower as we move forward. One of
285
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.319
the things that I always say,
again it could just be conversation out in
286
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:30.599
the world or certainly with clients,
is it is fundamental to honor whatever it
287
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:36.839
is we have gone through. It
is important to see it and feel it
288
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:42.720
and almost align with this level of
compassion for what we went through. But
289
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:48.480
there is a time in a place
where it is empowering to put the story
290
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:56.119
down and begin rewriting it, which
is the power of accountability. This brings
291
00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:06.279
us into unison with our and no
longer going outside of our own skill sets,
292
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:11.160
our own tools, our own healing, and looking for answers outside of
293
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.400
ourself, looking for someone to show
up and make it all better. So
294
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:21.240
when we really exercise the third principle
and the J three equals E formula,
295
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:27.680
accountability is a strong empowerment pillar.
It's centered almost in the middle. For
296
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:33.880
that reason. Again, it's not
to ignore what was done, or what
297
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.400
was said, or what we experienced. It's to say that I see it,
298
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:42.759
and I have compassion for where I
was, and maybe that person was
299
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:48.240
at that time, and whether they
have grown and done the work, that
300
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.119
is not for me to be accountable
too. How I now choose to move
301
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:59.680
forward and create an empowered life.
Now I will take accountability for my healing,
302
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.680
my journey, and my way forward. And you know what's interesting,
303
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:10.200
I find that gratitude can become so
key in that. Because I was just
304
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.880
talking to a friend today and they
were talking a little bit about some of
305
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.440
the struggles that they've had for the
last number of years and so forth,
306
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.039
and I said, you know,
stop for a minute and think about being
307
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:27.920
grateful for what you've experienced, because
look what you have become because of those
308
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:33.839
experiences. And they actually took those
experiences and became such a higher level of
309
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.359
goodness and kindness and all of that
type of thing. So I think sometimes
310
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:45.480
we forget to realize that whatever we've
experienced in life, even those horrendous trauma,
311
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.839
you know, we don't have to
be grateful for that at all,
312
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.640
and recognize also that it has nothing
to do with us, but it has
313
00:28:53.680 --> 00:29:00.880
to do with somebody else. But
the bottom line is is that allowing it
314
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:07.319
to empowers and having that sense of
gratitude that we are becoming even at a
315
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.480
higher level of who we are because
of those experiences, if, as you
316
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:17.920
say, we can take them and
change them from being the victim to being
317
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.440
the empowered individual that looks at that, analyzes it, recognizes it, and
318
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.839
can be grateful in some way for
what it has done to help them become
319
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:36.519
a better person. I think that's
one of the big challenges is to guide
320
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:45.680
others in that again, that awareness
that you can take that relationship, your
321
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:51.359
relationship to that event or sometimes for
decades of an event, and use it
322
00:29:51.680 --> 00:30:00.000
and recalibrate it through to a more
neutral understanding and a more positive I think
323
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:07.960
experience for self love. And again
we're talking this through but there is a
324
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.400
process and there is a journey.
We're not at all looking at anyone saying
325
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.519
well, if you came out of
this abusive environment, you can just recalibrate
326
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:21.400
it and change it into a positive
process. So obviously, you know listeners
327
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:27.000
will know that, but we're talking
about this very unique and empowering way of
328
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:33.200
knowing. There are opportunities, there
are options, there are pathways, there
329
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:40.359
are healing techniques and modalities. Through
a podcast, through a coach, through
330
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:45.880
a book, et cetera, where
you can start to expand your perspective on
331
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:55.839
just what may be possible for you
to again transform that disempowering story into a
332
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:02.960
more empowered present and future life yourself. Yes. Absolutely, And as we
333
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.920
move forward into the next one,
and you know, as I think about
334
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.039
awake, I keep thinking, Kay. But we're talking to see here critical.
335
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.799
Yeah, So tell me a little
bit about what your thoughts are about
336
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:22.400
this being critical about things. Yeah. So again, this critical thinking is
337
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:30.200
so important because we're human beings and
we're always reacting the high and the low,
338
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.279
the beauty and the ugliness, right, the love and the hate,
339
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.839
the good and the bad, the
positive and negative. There's always a reaction
340
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:42.200
to everything rather than a response,
and there is such a difference. Most
341
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:49.200
of us react from emotion, and
that emotion is tied to an experience that
342
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:56.240
already happened, So there's already an
imprint of energy on the experience that we
343
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.519
are reacting from. Now, obviously
the sun is out and we're at the
344
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:06.240
beach and we're just having a beautiful
day and we're in gratitude and appreciating the
345
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.960
ocean and the warmth, and we're
reacting to that day. That's a positive
346
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.880
reaction. So we all understand that
when we bring in that fourth principle from
347
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:22.200
the J three equals E that critical
thinking, now we can start to move
348
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:28.599
towards again a more empowered life because
we begin with that awareness. Right,
349
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:34.440
we see, I'm aware that we're
arguing again. I am willing to take
350
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:39.960
a step back. I am accountable
no longer for how I react in this.
351
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:46.799
Now I'm going to start exercising critical
thought. I'm going to remember that
352
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.599
I'm reacting from a wound. I'm
reacting from a past story. I'm reacting
353
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:59.480
from a thought process that is attached
to something that I once experienced. That
354
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:04.839
is not where I am now.
I am thirty seven, i am a
355
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:09.920
wife, I'm a businesswoman. I
am not seventeen or seven anymore. Now
356
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:16.839
I take the emotional charge out of
that reaction, and I exercise critical thinking,
357
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.920
and I start to respond from a
more empowered place. I'm not saying
358
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.079
it would be perfect, but maybe
I've done some therapy, Maybe I have
359
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:32.359
had a transformational coach. Maybe I've
read an empowering book that opened up my
360
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:38.480
mind to a new skill or a
new awareness. Now I begin to apply
361
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:45.480
a higher level of intelligence, and
I reside less in the emotionality of a
362
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:51.480
story that does not serve me well
anymore. All right, and beautifully said,
363
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.359
and beautifully said. And then we
get to the final one. Energy.
364
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:02.839
Energy. Ooh, energy is in
everything. I always say and write
365
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.679
about this in the book that even
if you don't understand mathematical equations and quantum
366
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:14.239
physics and epigenetics and all the new
sciences, I don't. I'm not an
367
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.000
expert in all of those. There's
no way I could understand all of those.
368
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:22.920
But I do know that energy is
in everything because we know what we
369
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.800
feel all the time. It's an
energy. It's a happy energy, it's
370
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:34.599
a frustration energy, it's a scared
energy, it's an excited energy. We
371
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.360
all know what energy feels like.
So even again, if we don't understand
372
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:45.239
that even solid objects are energy objects, they're just condensed, that's okay.
373
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.280
Put that aside. Let's look at
the power seat of choice. When it
374
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:54.559
comes to energy, negative, positive, neutral, which one are You Ask
375
00:34:54.639 --> 00:35:00.639
yourself that in all interactions, and
you will start to you up level your
376
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.440
own intelligence. You will start to
tap into that level what I call that
377
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:12.840
internal brilliance, that genius that I
firmly believe is residing within every human being.
378
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:19.840
Ask yourself positive, negative, neutral. Now you start to play around
379
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:28.239
with why would I choose negative anything? Why I have the power to neutralize
380
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.679
that negative thought? Actually stand in
the middle. I can see the awareness
381
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.519
to what was negative. I know
I am now learning how to be an
382
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.239
empowered being. I can see positive
over there. I may not exactly know
383
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.599
how to get there. I may
not have all of it lined up,
384
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.760
but I am now am starting to
think write positive intelligence. I have the
385
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:55.360
ability to move out of negative thinking, negative patterns, negative habits and behaviors.
386
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:02.159
I can neutralize it with new perspectivetives, new tools, new information,
387
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:09.239
gain insight, gain knowledge, become
inspired and move into an empowered positive outcome.
388
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:15.800
Just ask yourself, negative, positive, neutral, which energy am I?
389
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.920
And in that moment of asking,
you can now begin to run through
390
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:24.760
those principles and then at the end
see how an empowered life can go from
391
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:31.079
negativity through the neutral for a positive
outcome. And it really does work well.
392
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:37.760
And I think it's important for people
to understand that there is this quantum
393
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:43.400
field, there's this field outside of
us that we don't always recognize. And
394
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.159
it takes a lot of meditation to
that type of thing to tap into it.
395
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:52.920
But even without doing that, just
recognizing that there's that positive energy that
396
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:57.440
you can tap into, and as
you tap into it, it can literally
397
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.000
start to change your perspective, start
to change your life. I mean,
398
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:07.679
we talk so much about joy and
happiness and not realizing that, you know,
399
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:14.800
guess what, we can literally create
that joy and happiness for ourselves by
400
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:21.519
tapping into that energy that exists a
little bit outside of our awareness. But
401
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.559
as you say, as we become
more and more aware of that, it
402
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:30.559
can make such a difference in our
lives. And it really is, it
403
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.679
is outside of us when we look
at it from the perspective of universal creation
404
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:43.039
or the God force. However,
we look at that power that is really
405
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.480
at the foundation of why we're here, that's again a unique journey. But
406
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:53.239
let's say one night you're stargazing,
just look at that with amazement of how
407
00:37:53.239 --> 00:38:00.400
were this beautiful blue jewel floating in
the middle of a galaxy tapping into that?
408
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:07.280
For me, whoa, and I'm
just this little human walking the planet.
409
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:12.719
What can I do? How can
I tap into that quantum awareness of
410
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.880
how does gravity hold us here,
and then we can start engaging in all
411
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.880
the beauty and all the diversity of
how our mind can start thinking about.
412
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:29.800
Okay, I may not understand again
quantum physics, but I know I'm here.
413
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.760
There's something remarkable about me. I
came into this experience for a reason,
414
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.360
for a purpose. What is it? Let me become this grand explorer
415
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.119
of my own potential by tapping into
these forces that yes, are outside of
416
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:52.239
us, but really they reside so
deadly in sight side. Absolutely. That's
417
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.199
what I was going to say,
is so often we don't realize that we
418
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.280
seek outward when in fact it's within
us. And if we can begin to
419
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:07.000
understand that and truly believe it and
recognize that, you know, if we're
420
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.679
wanting to tap into that energy,
it's within us to be able to do
421
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:15.400
so, and I think that becomes
in a wonderful awareness when we can reach
422
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:21.079
that point. Yeah. I write
something very quickly about in the book about
423
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.320
this, like, I'm a firm
believer that how science used to say,
424
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.239
you know, we had all this
junk DNA, and science now knows it
425
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:37.559
is untapped human potential. It is
really awaiting its recognition internally. Right that
426
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:43.880
navigation system is in there. Switch
it up, Get creative, have fun
427
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.679
figuring out what does this look like? What is my potential? What is
428
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:53.480
my connection to being an energy being? What is this beautiful mind brain matrix
429
00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.719
that I can enter data in?
Get creative, put data out for positive
430
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:07.559
purpose, to create positive causation.
How can I be a human being that
431
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:14.960
contributes betterment and goodness and love and
compassion into the human condition? And it
432
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:20.719
is so important anyone that ever feels
that, who am I to create any
433
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:27.400
ripple effect? I'm here to tell
you that your ripple effect is needed every
434
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:32.519
single human being. When they start
to transform from negative thinking, negative patterns
435
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.639
into that neutral to positive energy,
you actually become more of a beacon of
436
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:44.639
light than the dark, than the
shadow. There's so many analogies and poetic
437
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.039
ways we can express this, but
your presence is needed. And the more
438
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:54.360
you heal and the more you become
aware of your personal empowerment journey, now
439
00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:00.719
we start to create a more collective
vibration of goodness on the entire planet.
440
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:08.480
And I couldn't have asked for a
better ending. That's so wonderful to be
441
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:12.400
able to sum it up the way
that you just have, So let me
442
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.360
ask you a question. How do
people find you, Laura? How do
443
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.320
they reach out and find you if
they have that desire to do so?
444
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.280
Thank you. Yes, and first
of all, just such an honor and
445
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.880
a pleasure to be here with you. I really appreciate sharing some moments of
446
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.000
this lifetime with you, so thank
you and for all the work that you
447
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:36.599
do. Www. Dot The Science
of Empowerment dot com. There's a place
448
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:42.000
to email me for those who put
a notation that maybe they heard me from
449
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:47.000
this conversation. I will sign and
mail a book when they order it via
450
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:52.079
the website. I have a small
amount left from the original printing, which
451
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.119
is really cool. They're becoming collector's
edition everyone else Amazon, of course,
452
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.760
Laura Brennan ballet The Science of Empowerment. It's on Kindle, all the bookstores,
453
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.760
et cetera. So yes, please
reach out. I do speaking engagements.
454
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.360
I show up on virtual stages all
over the world coaching. Read the
455
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:17.000
book. It will change your life, I promise you. Wonderful Laura,
456
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.000
thank you so much for being on
the show. This has just been wonderful,
457
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.000
and thank you for everything that you're
doing to make a difference in the
458
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.079
world. In the other people's lives
since folks, thank you for listening today.
459
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.639
Hope you really enjoyed it, and
please reach out to Laura if it's
460
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.960
something that you feel can be of
value to you, because I know it
461
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.400
certainly can be. We look forward
to having you join us again soon.
462
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:49.079
Have a wonderful week, and have
a wonderful day.




























