Steps to Self Fulfillment and Happiness

0:01 This program is designed to provide general information with regards to the subject matters covered. This information is given with the understanding that neither the hosts, guests, sponsors, or station are engaged in rendering any specific and personal medical, financial, legal counseling, professional service, or any advice. You should seek the services of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas. At the end of the day, it's not about what you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up, who you've made better. It's about what you've given back. Denzel Washington, welcome to inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to do the same. Andy, Welcome to the show. How are you well. I'm doing fine and what's better now that you've welcomed me, Doctor Doug, thank you for having me. I appreciate you inviting me to be on your program. Well, I really appreciate you being on the show and share with the audience. Where are you from.

1:14 I am from the Caribbean, the Twin Island Republic of Trinidad and Tobago. We're just about one point four five million persons and we are located about seven miles off the South American course bordering the country of Venezuela. You know national yeah, goh ahead, sorry. Our national instrument, just for reference, is the steel pan and we are currently supposed to be putting on what they consider as the greatest shoe on earth, which is Candival that is just about two weeks away. Oh wow, that's great. You know, it's amazing, isn't it that you can actually communicate with people and get to know people at such distance because of technology, which is wonderful. So what I'd love for you to do is share with the audience who you are. And I know that there's a backstory. I would assume there's a backstory. So who are you? What have you been doing? And what brought you to this point in your life? And were there any moments in your life that moved you in this direction? Okay, great, Well that's a loaded one, doctor Doug. But I'll do my best. My name is Andy Charles and what I currently do is I'm a certified life and development coach, public speaker, writer, singer and minister of the gospel, and I know that songs a lot, but it took time for me to get to this point.

2:43 Presently away I am. I actually started out as a business owner. I started my own business roughly about twenty five years ago. It is a security protection service agency all better known as a security company, and we started basically with three thousand dollars. I remember at that time, I was basically broke. It was all the money that I had, and I needed to invest it, and I needed to invest it smart. The catalyst for me wanting to open my own business and do my own thing basically was because I was working for people who were living a good lifestyle based on the work that I was doing. My energy, my sweat, my resource, my time, and there was some long trying and testing hours, and so I had this vision. I had this dream that someday I need to be on my own. I need to be independent, making my own decisions about my life, creating my own hours, and basically getting that kind of lifestyle that I could dictate the pace in which I did the things that I needed to do for myself and of course my family. So that started about twenty five years ago, and then on twenty nineteen, when we had to deal with the height of COVID nineteen, something else dawned on me and I realized that there were certain talents and gifts that I had that I wasn't really using, and I felt guilty because I needed to create a better avenue for more fulfillment in

4:18 my life. My business was pretty successful. I mean, we started out basically twelve employees and then we ended up with about one hundred and fifty and from twoty thousand dollars a month, we were making like four point five or four point six million annually gross income, So that was good, but there was always something missing, doctor Doug and I was on a search for that something, and I realized that there were gifts and talents that I had hidden for quite a while because I lacked the confidence and the belief that I could do something about them. And I realized that speaking two people and with people became quite easy for me. It was something that I enjoyed. It gave me fulfillment. It gave me the opportunity to symbiotically resonate with people and to share things with them that were value. And I decided I needed to do something about that. So I started to take courses and I decided I would certify myself, get myself accredited and recognized, and I also joined Allons Club's International and I started working training with them leadership quality Training, membership quality training, group quality training, and eventually it put me to an elevated position where I would do seminars and workshops and actually be involved in coaching people. And I got a certificate of recognition from the international president at the time for my

5:48 work with Lions Clubs International, and it's something that I am quite proud of. And so it took me to a place where I realized I needed also to share this information that I had received about myself, this knowledge that I had discovered about myself, because for me, it was much more fulfilling, it was much more easier, so simple for me to just go to someone and have a conversation and share things with them and help them get clarity about the things that they needed in life. And the singing, of course, came easy because I grew up in a home where my father was a singer, my mom was a singer. I joined a choir Sunday school, the Full Works everything, but speaking with people and dealing with people became my innate passion and that is a thing that fulfilled me the most. And so I decided I would certify myself and that I became a certified speech writer and a public speaker. And then the idea of a podcast came and now we have three podcasts, Breakout Room, Let's Just Read, and Breaking Out of the R So basically, in a nutshell, if I can describe it like that, that is how I got to this point where I am today. Oh, that's wonderful. And you know what's interesting, I just excuse me.

7:13 I just completed an interview a while ago talking about how we discover our gifts and how we discover our purpose. And you have described so well your process of being successful in what you're doing, and yet there's always something feeling like there's something missing. And here you are recognizing the gifts that you have, and as you've been able to follow that process, here you are now in a very high level fulfillment, I would assume. And that's amazing, and I think that's such a great thing for people to understand that they can literally find that purpose, find those gifts and follow them and it just makes such a difference. So I'm curious, as you were, has you been coaching people, as you've been working with people in Lions Club as well as others, what have you found seems to be the greatest difficulty that people experience in their lives. Has there been something general that you've been able to say, you know, I hear more about this than anything else. Or is it all over the board? You know, for some people it differs, and I don't think that it is all over the board. I can now read down to basically two things. One clarity. I am amazed at how many people lacked clarity in the decisions that they needed to make about themselves and their

8:46 lives. And what we found out. What we discovered is that most of the time, the reason why they lacked the clarity is because they were more or less trying to follow in the footsteps of someone else, either that or and or they were trying to please people, people that they felt they should look up to, people that they felt were important to them, and as a result, there was not room enough for them to really taking on the inside their true values, the things that they would have to do for themselves to lift themselves out of a place of mediocrity to a place of abundance, a place of fulfillment and enlightenment. And the second thing is self doubt.

9:31 A whole lot of people do not believe in themselves. They do not believe in their ability. They do not have that confidence that they can actually be themselves. And I tell most of the people that I meet, you have to be able to look the man in the mirror and embrace what you see for what it is. It starts there, and the reason why it starts there is because that is the real you. Now, internally, what is happening is that there's a constant struggle, and the struggle is basically based on either they had a lot of difficulties in the past, things that happened in relationships, with investments, with people on a social basis, and there was no closure, There was not the opportunity to bring it to a conclusion.

10:22 So they have a lot of inner scars on the inside. And because of these inner s cars not getting the opportunity to heal that self confidence became something different, something unusual that they could not handle, that they could not take hold of and control. And there was a large number of insecurity that mounted up, and because they never had the opportunity to confront it and deal with it, it became something that hampered the ability to be confident, to have belief in themselves, and to understand that their story is as important and as anybody else's story, and they ought to be proud of it because that is the beginning of their truth. Well, you know, and you've said some really interesting things. I'm here in Thailand right now, and so as fascinating as I as I have studied a bit about Buddhism and recognize that as Buddha talks about, you know, overcoming suffering, becoming the best that you can be, he doesn't use those words, but the reality is is that he talks about how you can literally reach a level of goodness and kindness and beingness.

11:39 And I love that. But you know, I think one of the things that really strikes me, and I know in your bile you talk about the fact that you're a minister of the Gospel, and you know what, there's one saying from Christ in the New Testament that where he says I am maybe it's the Old Testament, you'll correct me here, but I am that I am, and you know it's the old it's the old Testament. Sorry, sorry enough to day the oldestiny. I corrected myself. I corrected myself. But but the point is is that he's not talking. You know, every once in a while i'd bring this up and have to be careful. But said he's not saying I do that I do. He says I am that I am. And and then as as they talk about, you know, be there for perfect, but if you get into the original great meaning of that as really be therefore complete and And what I find is that it's so difficult for people, for some reason to understand the goodness that lies innately within them. And you brought up the fact that you know, they don't feel like they're really good, they feel insecure, all of those types of things. What do you find it is a is you've analyzed all of this, Why is it that people don't understand how good they are internally and in reality? You know, I listened carefully to Depak Chopra, and he said

13:16 something to me that was very instrumental based on the question you just ask, and you also mention it briefly. He said that many people find themselves so busy that they become human doers rather than human beings. And I understand that because at the end of the day, like I said before, if you cannot see the beauty and the simplicity of the Creator in yourself when you look at yourself, then you're going to have some problems. Not only that, when you begin to discover yourself as an individual, as a being, and you enlighten yourself with the things that you need to become, whether you choose to be a banker, a doctor, a lawyer, a writer, a musician, or sportsperson, whatever it is you choose to become. If that is what you innately feel that you need to do, then you need to go out there and pursue that. But so many times we align our values with other person's values. You know, we have to follow the tradition of the family, or we want to please those in the community that we involve in socially, and sometimes when we do that, we end up losing our way. So the best thing to do is to decide early in life, what is that gives me the greatest pleasure in what I do? What it

14:48 is that gives me a sense of fulfillment. It may not necessarily make me feel complete and whole, but it's something that I gravitate to very naturally. I get up in the morning and I can do it without a wink. In a heartbeat, I can transform to being that kind of individual. That is extremely important. The other thing that I think people I challenge with is what we call traditionally the imposter syndrome, where we are trying to please three different factors of people in our lives at the same time. And I've seen situations where people get up in the morning and you see them, and that's one individual and they take a shower, they drink a cup of coffee, they have breakfast, and they go out there in the public. That's a different individual, same person, different personality. They get on public transport, they go to the mall, they get to the office, a different personality.

15:46 Again, so you have one person in three different environments, giving you three different personalities. By the time you get home in the evening or the afternoon or the night, you're fully confused. Your brain is somewhere else and your body is trying to catch up, or it's the opposite. So what we need to do is to narrow down basically the thing that we can define within ourselves. That gives us that personal sense of value that we can hold onto, and it helps us to build characters and mannerisms that we can exemplify and share with people. Because for me, basically, if you can get to the point where you recognize what your purpose is, why am I here?

16:32 Ask yourself that question, why am I created? What is the purpose that I'm supposed to fulfill? What is the destiny that I'm supposed to take up and embrace that is made specifically for me. That's importance, that's value. When you hold onto that and you seek that and you discover that and it brings you that level of fulfillment, then it does not matter what someone says or think does. What you are going to hold onto is what you have discovered, because now that becomes your treasure, your value, and it gives you the opportunity to be vulnerable because now you can share with others and even make a difference in people's lives. Well. And you know, I love behavioral analysis and I'm certified in that, and one of the things I love to do is to do these behavioral profiles. And the one that I really enjoy doing and the one that I've researched out. It really goes in and analysis the three different types of personalities that we have. One is that innate personality, is you say, who are we really? And then you get into that social personality who do we need to be? And then you get into that conscious personality, which is kind of a combination of all of that. But what I find is I have taught some of this one of the things that I find so interesting, and you bring it up so well.

18:03 We have different personalities based on the environment that we're in. But the question is are we at the effect of that environment or are we in control? And I think that makes such a difference because if we're the effect, Okay, I'm here in my work, so this is how I have to be, or I'm here at this party and this is how I have to be. Or I'm here at church and this is how I have to be, or I'm here at home and this is how I have to be because this is what they've been taught versus knowing who you are and being in control and saying, you know what, I'm in an environment right now that I need, I can choose to behave and be this way because it's appropriate and it helps those surrounding me. If I'm at work, Okay, this is how I need to be at work, because that's how I'm going to be most successed and also how I can be of greater value to the company and those around me. The difference is being at the effect or in control, and I find that to be fascinating for people because in most cases I've experienced this too. I'm at the effect of this environment, and therefore I'm not in control. Therefore I'm not really It's not me, it's somebody else that I'm trying to be. Yeah, I think it is extremely important for us to be comfortable with who we are. If we constantly find ourselves being so

19:44 much influenced by the environment and we have to switch or mood us up a randai so that we can either fit in or be pleasing to those who are in that same environment, we're going to have confusion for a long time. But if, on the other hand, we realize that because we are in a particular environment and it requires a certain behavior, we may change to conform to that behavior because it is required. But if the basic profile of our humanity or characteristics or mannerisms remains the same, and that basic foundational aspect of ourselves is not touch, move, or influence, then it's a better approach.

20:34 And the reason why I say that is because it means therefore that we are the ones that are in control and not necessarily being at the mercy of the environment. So, first of all, it starts with not just being comfortable with who we are, but accepting that because of who we are, we are the real value that projects our mannerisms, our characteristics, and when we go out there and we are among people, we are not ashamed of being who we are. And yes, we may have to conform to certain behaviors. I mean, if you're in the court house, you have to conduct yourself in a certain manner. If you're in church, you have to conduct yourself in a certain manner, if you're in an interview, you have to conduct yourself in a certain manner. But as long as that does not affect the basic foundation of your humanistic mannerism, beliefs, desires, values, then things are going to be much more better for you because it means therefore that you are still in control of your innate self and not being affected just by the environment. Amen to that well, And you've written some books, and one that I'm aware of is to Lose a Dream. I'd really be interested in knowing what motivated you to write that and what is the message that you're seeking to share in that book. I wrote that about probably about fourteen

22:11 fifteen years ago, and the motivation came from something that I had tried and I did not succeed in it. I wanted to go into business at that time other than what I was doing. It was like a sort of by the side something that I was trying to do because, you know, for some reason the earlier I found that I was being consistent in the current business that I was in. But at the same time, I was thinking, if something should go wrong here, what do I fall back on? And we're always taught you need to have more than one source of income. So I wanted to do something that was different and it did not work out.

22:56 It did not succeed, it failed. And in the process of trying to do something in the midst of being successful, trying to do something that did not turn out to be a success, I learned some things. And the information that I learned, the experience that I got is what I decided to put into that book, and that is why I abstractly name it to Lose a Dream, because many people do not know how to lose something gracefully. They consider a loss as something that is that should be forgotten, should not be considered, or something that is negative. But a loss in many ways is a lesson, a lesson for us to understand that there are some things that we should not do and there are some things that we can do.

23:51 And the ecotomy is very simple. It's very simple in the sense that if I did not go through that process, I would not have learned the things that I learned. And it's because of the experience of trying to diverse or diverse my business operations, I realize that fundational business, in terms of how you do it, is extremely important. And the thing about it is you cannot be trying to do too many things at the same time and expect to succeed. You have to either focus on one or find a team of people that would come together and believe in your dream, support you, and commit themselves to helping you doing something other than you are currently doing right now.

24:38 So at the end of the day, what I decided was. Since I had learned so much from this experience, I'm going to put it into a publication and call it to Lose a dream. Well, and I love that. And of course you're focusing on your experience in business, but how well does that transition into personal life. How many times do we experience failure in our personal lives, whether it's losing a friendship or you know, relationships or whatever that happens to be. And how often do we find ourselves blaming ourselves or you know, thinking where I'm a failure and so forth, rather than, as you say, so well, looking at it from the perspective of what have I learned? This is a lesson that I've got the opportunity to learn so that next time around I can do better. Well, you see the thing about it is this many people believe that anything that does not go their way, anything that happened that brought back a negative response or a negative result, is something that happened to them. In my coaching, I help them to realign by getting them to understand what happened was not to you, but what happened was for you. There's always a message in the mess.

26:11 The challenge is perspective perspective meaning what lens do you see that negative situation or that negative result in. If your perspective is based on the fact that you're looking at the end result and not the process that brought it to the end result, you're going to miss that lesson that you're supposed to learn. But if you were paying attention to details, then you would understand that something happened and that something was the reason why it did not work out or it feeled or it did not end up being a result in your favor. When you can get to that point where you become emotionally strong or mature enough to sort of claire the confusion and see the core reason why something did not work out, then objectively you can learn the lesson out of it. I remember hearing an interview with Michael Jordan and he was saying, I have made thousands and thousands of shots at the basket, and on many instances I fail. But the reason why I am so successful is because I fail. Here's the thing.

27:34 Every time he failed, he took note of the failure and he recognized it just needed a slight adjustment. Mentally, that's challenging because it is so easy to feel the press when you fail. But at the end of the day, if you realize that there is something that you need to do just a little better or just a little more that could make the difference. When you begin to understand that that is the mindset you have to have and the perspective of the lens through which you see the things you experience and even in life, then you will come to the conclusion that if I perceive that I need to learn something from this, then I will seek to find the details that would lead me to the root cause or the lesson while the process is actually taking place. And when that happens, we become an individual who receive value out of the experience even though it did not go the way we expected it too. Yes, and I want to go even a little bit deeper in your in your experience. And this has been my observation among many people that I know and friends that I know that the experience that they're having they have created, and yet they don't take responsibility for that. You know, they'll blame this person, this situation, so on and so forth. But as you coach people, how often do you find that there are certain situations

29:04 where people are literally creating their own life that they don't like, and they're not really willing to take responsibility and realize that, you know what, the movie of my life I am creating, I am not only the writer, but I'm the producer. And you know, you talk about clarity, talk about responsibility, being able to finally understand and accept the fact that, you know what, I am creating my own life in so many ways, and if I don't like it, then I need to make some changes. I need to understand and then make some changes. And I'm sure that's what you do with your coaching, But what's been your observation with that? Yeah, And it takes me back to what we were speaking about earlier. If there's a lack of clarity, and I need to sort of backup here a little bit. There are some things that we do that focuses on neuroplasticity, and I'm sure you're probably familiar with that term absolutely, And what some people don't realize, doctor Doug, is that even though they grew up in a particular environment and their lives were affected by the culture, the beliefs, whether it be religious or the socioeconomical environment, that they would have come out from.

30:33 What some of us don't realize is that when I sit down to coach you or to be of service to you from a coaching perspective, I see all those things in you. Some people don't realize that. They don't realize that most of what they have become evolves around an ecosystem that exists around them, some that they know and some that they don't know. And so the greatest challenge that most of them face is that they will not accept responsibility even for the results in their lives, because they find it easier to cause aspersions and blames on other people things, circumstances, situation until I get them to go deep, go back down memory lane and think about your thought process. What were you thinking about, What was your deepest conviction at the time, What is the emotion that you harbored within concerning that particular situation? And when it begins to open to them because they go back into memory lane, they dig down into themselves in retrospect, and then they start to come to the light and see and realize and recognize, Wait a minute, was I thinking that way? Did I really say that I do that? And most of them are surprised by the things that they have cultivated for themselves over the years.

32:07 So what we do is we help them see their story as it is and then tell them look at it not just from somebody who's participating, but from somebody who's an observer from the outside, and see if you can see it from a different perspective, a different lens, what other direction, what other perspective, what other lens can you see it in? Can you imagine seeing it this way? And you give them options and then they begin to think and realize, through the process of neuroplasticity, you know what I could change. I could change the way I think, I could change the way I see things. And it's a process. It starts with, first of all, recognizing that I have to accept responsibility for where I am currently now in this life. It's all about me, despite what I think about people, circumstances, what may I call karma, what however I want to term it, I ultimately must accept responsibility for the results that I have seen thus far.

33:14 When it starts with that, it's the first step to get in that process ongoing and move into the next level, and then to see a story from a different perspective, not just as a participator, but as an observer who would then have a different perspective of a different take that would take them to a next level. And then when they decide what they are going to embrace going forward, we find ourselves connecting on a different level and they are now saying, yes, I believe that I can now see changes in my life because I realize what it means now to see things differently. Well, you talk about neuroplasticity, and I'm not sure a lot of people really understand what that's all about, because literally we can change, you know, they talk about how do you change a habit? It takes ninety days or more to do that. But what people don't understand is as you were doing that, what you're literally doing is you were taking that neural pathway of behavior and moving it to the side and creating a new pathway with that new habit and ultimately creating that what I find fascinating, and I don't know if you've done any study on this, but we talk about epigenetics. You know, it's interesting. It's interesting to see how children oftentimes mimic parents, and so many times, you know, you're experiencing an emotion you're experiencing a behavior whatever,

34:45 and you go, where on earth did that come from from? And yet, what we don't understand that with this epigenetics, that there are things that attach to our DNA that then we ate those neural pathways that have nothing to do with us and may have nothing to do with our parents. I may have something to do with our grandparents or great grandparents, and it's there. But as you say, then the point is is once you have some clarity that it doesn't matter where it comes from, it's internal right now in me. So what do I need to do? I need to number one recognize it, to have thirty that is there, and then number two make the decision that I am going to change that neural pathway. And it's fascinating to see. I tell my kids all the time, or many times, you know, my dad was from what I can understand, my dad was, you know, hit by a belt by his father many times. And guess what, my parents never ever touched us from that perspective. And I look at my children and my brother's children, and from all that I can see, they never do that either, unless you know it's a middle spanking or whatever. But it's not there. And literally my father consciously change that neural

36:21 pathway, that epigenetic aspect in his life, and because he did that with his children, that's being passed down in a positive way now. And I think it's important to understand how we can if we're experiencing some of those types of things, we can make the decision that we are going to change that so that generations beyond us are not going to experience the same thing that we may have experienced or seen one of our parents' experience. Absolutely absolutely, And you know, in addition to that, and as you said, we need to take sometimes a deep dive to understand that we are dimensionally made up individuals.

37:07 And as you rightfully say, there are things that would have been passed down from generation to generation to generation, and sometimes we end up doing things without thinking about the consequences, without thinking about the end result. But what happened if we decide for one moment to look at it and to survey in the manner in which we have not seen it before, look for the novelty in it, become very childlike and curious about it, Exploit it, exploit ask questions, get involved in a community that does the same thing. I was supposed to have an interview with a guy yesterday, and he has founded a community where he is teaching fathers how to be better closer aligned with their children because when he was a young man growing, there was no alignment, no connection, no sort of mentorship communication between him and his father. And what he decided as a result is when he became an adult and he became a father, he would do everything possible to right the wrongs that he believed he experienced as a result of a lack of his father being there for him when he needed him the most. And so what we have to understand is we have to take time out to truly discover the things that are valuable to us and to understand it is not just because something has been passed down that we should go in that step and follow it and do it. We need

38:40 to question things. We need to become curious, inquisitive in an innocent way. Why innocent, because we need to understand why it was being done, why it was expected to be done, and what is the result if we continue doing it. And so if we look at it from that perspective, we'd realize that the change that we need to see, it starts with us. It begins with us having that deep conviction first, and then when we display that conviction, we can take the necessary steps to engender that change and pass it on to others as well. And what a difference that makes when you think about it, Either you're the victim and the effect of all of that environment, or you look at that and you say, I'm going to change that, and I'm going to make a difference in someone else's life, and you look at what you're doing here, which is just amazing. Real quickly, any stories come into your mind of someone that you've worked with that have experienced just an amazing change in their life based on the fact that they were willing to seek some help and then accept that responsibility. I work recently with someone she's married to this guy who is involved in martial arts. He's a martial arts instructor, and she's an executive working at a public service company

40:13 right here in Trinidad. And she came to me and she said, I have been working at this company for twenty five years and I have not been fulfilled, not one day ever that I enjoy going to work at my job. And I was like wow, and so the first thing I ask is is this what you really wanted to do or did you choose this job because of some level of pressure. And she went back to the beginning and she realized, wait a minute, I didn't even think about that. It was because she was influenced by people who taught that if she took that job, she would stand out in the community. Even though it was not something that she wanted to do of herself. It was not something that she would feel fulfillment about. But she did it because they had invested in her. And it was appearance actually who told her take this job. You need to stand out, you need to represent the family, you need to show people something different. And she went and she did the job, but for twenty five years, going every day and not being fulfilled. I don't know how she did it, but what I showed her is that I said to her, you need to extract yourself from the job for a moment and search deep inside and think personally what it is that fulfills me the most. I see.

41:45 You need to find that discovery because that part of you that is has been fulfilled for so long, you need to revive it and bring it back and give it life, give it sustenance, give it substance, something that it can reson with innately, and hold onto because what you have been doing is being someone else and not being yourself. And she recognized that. And after working with them for about a month, because the husband came in the picture. After I woke with her for two weeks and then for the other two weeks, he came in. And after working with them for about a month, she started implementing some of the things that I told her she needed to do, those mindset exercises, and I created the opportunity for her to do some actual exercises, creating a board where she would write down five things that she wanted to become and five things that other people wanted her to become, and then weigh them in the balance to see which one resonated with her, which one sent a message of hope, which one sent a message of yes, I could connect with this, Yes I could do this. And finally make a decision about how you intend to go forward, because you know in and we don't tell people what to do, but we give them the assurance that they have the answers somewhere on the inside, and all we do is draw them to a place where they eventually recognize, hey, this is what I need to do. If I do this, I will have clarity.

43:16 But they must be intentional about what they're doing. And she became intentional. She got clarity, and she moved on to a place where she got herself engaged in something else on the side that brought forth. She didn't leave her job, but now going to her job is no longer a burden, a strain and a stress or that unfulfilled feeling, because there is something now that has taken care of that, and she continues to grow and develop and become a better person. And that is one of the stories that comes to my mind. And I'm grateful for the opportunity that i had to help her get that clarity, that intentionality, and to make a decision that was in her best interests after she was making one continually that was an other person's best interests for such a long time. Well, and I love what you said.

44:09 And you know, one of the things that I love to say is I've worked with people is it isn't either or it's both, And you can do this and this, and all of a sudden it takes away that upsetness and frustration with work when they find that they can do both that and what they love. So I appreciate that. So as we're closing up today, Andy, what would be in a short brief moment you know of a meditor, So what would be the message that you want to share with the audience? Wow? I love that. My most important message to the audience is be grateful for life. Be grateful for the opportunity that you can live, move and have being. Please value on that. Discover your purpose, embrace it and do not be ashamed to share your story. Share yourself with the world.

45:09 We are here as servants to each other, will place to complement and support each other by the creator. Find what your purpose is, find what your role is, embrace it and share it, and do not be ashamed of your story. It's yours and it's the most valuable thing that you have got for yourself but also for others as well. Love it, Andy, thanks so much for being on the show. How do people find you? Okay? Great? Well, there are number of places that they can go. If you're on Facebook, It's www dot Facebook, dot come forward, slash Andy dot, Chile's dot three nine three. My YouTube handle is YouTube dot com at Andy Charles Dreamer. LinkedIn is ww dot, LinkedIn dot com forward slash in forward slash Andy E. Childs. Twitter is much more easy as Twitter, dot come forward slash KEYMENA key e, y M E n E. And Instagram is ww dot Instagram dot come forward slash Andy Childs eight four one seven. Yeah you go, Yeah, there you go. And folks, thanks for listening today, and I hope you got something really a value of this. And and if you're in that situation where you're not happy with what's going on, take take that moment to really develop some clarity and some responsibility and seek someone who can really help you and make sure and this

46:45 is what I think, key Andy, is make sure that they really are experienced and they have accomplished things for other people in a positive way, so that you get the right person to help you. Thanks again for listening, and hopefully you will have a wonderful rest of the week and look forward to having you join us again soon