WEBVTT
1
00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.599
This program is designed to provide general information with regards
2
00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.599
to the subject matters covered. This information is given with
3
00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:12.000
the understanding that neither the hosts, guests, sponsors, or station
4
00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:17.399
are engaged in rendering any specific and personal medical, financial,
5
00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.600
legal counseling, professional service, or any advice.
6
00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.039
You should seek the services.
7
00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:29.440
Of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas.
8
00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.079
At the end of the day, it's not about what
9
00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.439
you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what
10
00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:40.000
you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,
11
00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:43.640
who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.
12
00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:48.719
Thanzel Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is
13
00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.399
to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you
14
00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:52.159
to do the same.
15
00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:57.560
Dan, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
16
00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:01.479
It's a pleasure and on different sides of the planet,
17
00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:03.679
but I love how technology makes it possible.
18
00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.519
Toy, Oh, you know, it's wonderful. It's amazing to me
19
00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.560
that you know here. I thought you might be in
20
00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.599
the UK. Now you're in New York and as you say,
21
00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.359
you've been traveling all over so it's great that we
22
00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:15.879
can do this.
23
00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.280
Yeah, I'm was getting smaller.
24
00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:20.640
I would love for you to share with the audience
25
00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:21.560
kind of who.
26
00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:26.480
You are and the story behind what helped you to
27
00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.640
reach this point in your life and what you're doing
28
00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.239
and why you're doing what you're doing to help other people.
29
00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:36.439
Beautiful. Okay, So let me see if I can give
30
00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.319
you a good answer to that. Because I'm forty five
31
00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.280
years old and who I am I think still is
32
00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.799
evolving and I'm starting to grow into myself a little bit.
33
00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.120
If you look at the kind of professional side of me,
34
00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.359
then I'm a speaker and trainer. I speak a lot
35
00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.879
on the ideas of sales and psychology. I'm a behavioral scientist,
36
00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.000
and effectively I teach salespeople how to help people make
37
00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:00.760
good decisions and typically good decision and are aligned with
38
00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.159
purchasing decisions around sales. So that's kind of the corporate space.
39
00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:10.280
I apply those same psychological principles to my own life.
40
00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:14.800
I'm a bodybuilder, a natural bodybuilder, and I'm kind of
41
00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:16.360
preparing for ant of the competition which I have in
42
00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.039
four weeks, which is the world title. So I'm kind
43
00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:22.360
of currently in that kind of headspace to really challenge
44
00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.360
myself and push myself outside of my comfort zone. And
45
00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:28.680
then if you ask family who I am, I'm Dan.
46
00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.000
I'm like the hyper competitive one that likes winning all
47
00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:32.960
the board games. It probably it's a little bit too
48
00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:37.000
much cake. When I come to visit typically has a
49
00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.800
good word to say, but because sometimes get a little
50
00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:43.000
bit cranky. How else when people talk about following those
51
00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:47.159
kind of things. So yeah, so that's kind of me.
52
00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.280
And I'm a dad and I have an amazing daughter.
53
00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.000
We're like I say, We're currently based in New York Coast.
54
00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:56.960
School is literally within earshot, so if the microphone isn't
55
00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.199
controlled too much, then you can probably hear a screaming
56
00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:03.800
running around in playground. And that's basically how I spend
57
00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.360
my time. In any other part of me, which I'm
58
00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.080
still trying to grow into, which is the interesting piece
59
00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.319
and we'll probably talk about this today, is this idea
60
00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.479
of being an author. So I've written two books over
61
00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.159
a period of ten years. I was a period of
62
00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.840
ten years in between when I started to realize that
63
00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:19.800
I can actually do this stuff, and I just write
64
00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:22.319
on my third one. But there's that aspect of me
65
00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.520
is still growing, It's still one that I don't haven't
66
00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.639
fully grown into. So if you asked me in a
67
00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.879
year who I am, it'll probably be slightly more focused
68
00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.400
on the authoring and the writing. But for right now,
69
00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:36.479
I'm kind of this hodgepodge of talk about sales, do
70
00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.759
some bodybuilding. I'm slightly different color. You may be able
71
00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.680
to see on the video slightly orange eer orangeer is
72
00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.919
that the word will go with it from the fake
73
00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:50.360
town from last week's competition. But yeah, I just enjoy life.
74
00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:52.479
I like to live at both ends of the spectrum
75
00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.199
as much as I possibly can and not rule anything out.
76
00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:59.240
So I'm as comfortable listening to hip hop, nineties hip
77
00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.560
hop and RMBA. I am going to a theater and
78
00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:03.560
we went to see The Lion King on Broadway. The
79
00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:06.280
night is my mum's birthday present, So you know, I
80
00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.039
think we can all have lots of different experiences. I'm
81
00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:10.599
comfortable with that.
82
00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.000
Okay, so major bodybuilder and you're in a competition.
83
00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:15.919
I think that's cool.
84
00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.920
I keep struggling to try to do that better, but
85
00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:21.160
we're not going to talk.
86
00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:21.879
About that today.
87
00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:26.279
So what was there an aha moment that you've had
88
00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.920
or was it just a gradual to where you you know,
89
00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.399
started writing your books obviously to reach out to other people.
90
00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.959
What what caused you to decide that you really wanted to
91
00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.959
do what you're doing in helping people besides the business
92
00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.920
part and really helping people. Now the latest book is
93
00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:48.079
your latest book, the Personal Transformation blue Book Blueprint.
94
00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:51.079
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so that was a documentation of
95
00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.920
kind of how my mental journey for the bodybuilding. Yeah. Okay,
96
00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:56.680
there's slice a lot of difference.
97
00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.480
All right, So what was that aha moment or was
98
00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.680
it just edle that you kind of decided that I, right,
99
00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.800
I want to really help the community. I want to
100
00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:06.639
help other people.
101
00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.560
So I've been in I guess the personal development self
102
00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.879
help space for a very long time. That's how it started.
103
00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.040
In this whole training journey. A friend of mine gave
104
00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.160
me a CD you guys know Anthony Roberts, the Personal
105
00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.000
Power CDs from back in the day, and I was
106
00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:22.839
at the time, I was training athletes, I was working
107
00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.519
in sport in personal training. He said, hey, listen to this,
108
00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:27.360
I think it will help, and it really did. Like
109
00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.079
I found it extremely interesting, so much so that I
110
00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.399
went and studied neural linguistic programming and did my master
111
00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:35.759
practition all those kind of things, and then that led
112
00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.639
to a business kind of engagement and they said, how
113
00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:41.519
can you go and teach this to some people over here?
114
00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:43.759
And I said, okay, sure, and that kind of started
115
00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.720
my sales training career. So I started teaching neural linguistic
116
00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.959
programming to business people and salespeople across Europe and UK
117
00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:57.240
and eventually all over the world. In that time, I
118
00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.040
wrote goals. You've probably written goals right and occasionally and
119
00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:01.879
there's a little scraps of paper on the notebooks that
120
00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.680
you write there. And there were certain goals that always
121
00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:07.959
came up right. And one of them was sub teen
122
00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.120
percent body fat because you know you've got to have
123
00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:13.720
abs and all those kind of things, and you know,
124
00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:18.360
kind of get programmed. Never hit that goal. Never up
125
00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.800
until recently we were talking about that. Another one was
126
00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.079
write a goal goal setting book. I wanted to write
127
00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:26.839
a book on goal setting. It's tons of the night.
128
00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:31.480
There never happened, Never happened. Had like every year I'd
129
00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:33.639
write these same goals down. For some reason, it never happened.
130
00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.800
I wrote other goals, some of those you know, we're
131
00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.160
able to happen, but these two were always out of reach.
132
00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.519
I don't know why. And then so coming back to
133
00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:43.600
your question, was there a moment. There was a moment
134
00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:47.360
and it was buying three years ago and we were
135
00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.759
on the beach I don't know. You know England, there's
136
00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.600
an amazing beach called Western super Mare. They have to
137
00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:54.680
add the super I don't know why, but it's not
138
00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:56.480
that super but as great as a year you grow
139
00:06:56.519 --> 00:07:00.439
up near the Bristol coast and we were there. We
140
00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.240
were there with the family and it was a sunny day.
141
00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.079
And I remember this because we had the daughter's like
142
00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.279
first one and the first experiences at the beach. He's
143
00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.600
running around in the sound, maybe a couple of years old.
144
00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.000
Family there and it's a decent day. So take the
145
00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.839
shirt off, enjoy the sun, running around the shorts. It
146
00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:21.040
get splashed, but yeah, it's far fun of being the beach. Heay,
147
00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.560
end of the day. Get the photos and I see
148
00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:27.240
this one particular photo of me just standing there with
149
00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:32.000
no shirt on, and something different hit me. Yeah. I
150
00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.600
don't know if you've ever looked at a picture of yourself,
151
00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.399
You see yourself in the mirror and it's just you, right,
152
00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.199
it's you, but this one. I don't know why, but
153
00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.800
I saw something different and I saw somebody who said
154
00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.639
a load of good stuff but never really followed through it.
155
00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.519
It's weird. I don't know why. But it was like
156
00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:56.000
very average, Like it's an average body, average relationship, average career,
157
00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:59.279
just average everything. And I looked at it and I
158
00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.920
was like, my average, Like is that what I am?
159
00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.040
If I settled to be average? I talked about all
160
00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:06.639
these kind of go out and do these things and
161
00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:09.319
challenge yourself and push yourself. But there was this weird
162
00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.879
disconnect that had and all I saw was someone who
163
00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:15.680
had loads of excuses for reasons for not doing things.
164
00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:17.800
I can't put it any more than that. Just this
165
00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:21.720
one photo triggered this idea that I just make excuses
166
00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.639
and I never challenged myself and I've never really seen
167
00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.879
anything through as far as I possibly could. And that
168
00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:29.360
was kind of a kick in the butt, you know that.
169
00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.919
It was kind of a moment of like oh okay,
170
00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.039
And so I had a choice. I was like, okay, well,
171
00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:37.440
are you gonna just stay average or are you going
172
00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:39.320
to go and do something about it? And that was
173
00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.840
that's kind of if you say, was there a moment.
174
00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.000
It was one single photograph that triggered it all off.
175
00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:49.480
Wow wow, Yeah, and it's amazing. I'm really curious because
176
00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:51.240
I noticed in your bio and you've talked about the
177
00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.799
fact that you have that master's degree and behavior but
178
00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:59.879
it's behavioral decision and I've not heard of that particular one.
179
00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.120
For I know that the behavioral sciences, but the behavioral
180
00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.759
decision what what is that? Why is that distinguished?
181
00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.120
You know? I guess there's probably two answers. That one
182
00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.679
is the marketing answer, which is the university probably had
183
00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.240
to put some spin on it to make it sound
184
00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.279
a little bit more interesting than others. But for me,
185
00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.039
the reason I like that is there's there's behavioral science,
186
00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.159
so we can look at things like nuds. You know,
187
00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.159
you can you control people and can you encourage them
188
00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:30.159
to do things by creating environments where they make choices
189
00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.039
that make sets of better choices. You know. So us
190
00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.440
having this conversation with a friend of mine, you other there,
191
00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.240
he's very libertarianism. He's like freedom for everyone, everyone make
192
00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:40.480
the same choices. I'm like, that's great, But they still
193
00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:44.759
put warnings on domestic cleaners not to drink them right,
194
00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.000
So we have to control people. People aren't People aren't done,
195
00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.919
but they don't always make great decisions. So there's this
196
00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.240
idea of paternal libertarianism, which is, you have freedom of choice,
197
00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.600
but we're going to guide you if you don't know it. So,
198
00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:58.919
for example, if you install a computer program, none of
199
00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.399
us a computer programmers. So we also hit the default
200
00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.919
option because we trust that that is the best option
201
00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:05.679
for us.
202
00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:06.399
Is it?
203
00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.720
I don't know, but only you, say, five percent of
204
00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.440
people ever update the basic setting. So we have to
205
00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.559
trust that some of the choices that have been made
206
00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:16.600
for us are good, and then the rest of the
207
00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.080
choices are ours to make, right, or we at least
208
00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:22.159
think there are ours to make, and yet we make
209
00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.799
some howless, we make some absolutely terrible decisions. And for me,
210
00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.840
the reason to study this is twofold. Right. So first
211
00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:33.679
of all, I teach salespeople to influence people's decisions, I
212
00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.399
should probably understand how people make decisions. But then the
213
00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.440
second part is, hey, Dan, look back across your life.
214
00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:44.399
You made some terrible, terrible decisions. What were you doing, like,
215
00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.759
what were you doing? What was going on in your head?
216
00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.600
And on the other side of that then is how
217
00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.440
can I make fewer terrible decisions moving forward? But everything
218
00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:55.480
that we do comes down to a moment of choice,
219
00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.600
right our choice of what to do, what to have
220
00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:02.559
for breakfast, what to spend doing during our day? How
221
00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:04.519
do you know what clothes do we wear? All of
222
00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:08.039
these things are choices and they influence us moving forwards.
223
00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.279
We can't do anything about today, all of those decisions
224
00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:13.840
have been made that bring us up to today. But
225
00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.919
for tomorrow, and if we want to change, and again
226
00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:18.960
coming back to that photo, if I want to change
227
00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.919
who that person is I see in the picture. Can't
228
00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.879
change the history, but I can change what I do
229
00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:29.240
from today moving forwards. But it's got to be conscious.
230
00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:31.440
If I just go with my automatic programming, if I
231
00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.039
go with the status quo, then tomorrow I'm going to
232
00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:35.559
wake up and it's going to be the same met
233
00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:37.919
And if I'm happy with the same me, then great.
234
00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:39.600
But if I want to evolve, I want to change
235
00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.879
on something different, then I need to make different decisions.
236
00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.120
And so that that's kind of the thing. I guess
237
00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.720
it's really understanding why do we make decisions? And how
238
00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.200
can we make better ones? Okay?
239
00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.200
And how do you find the correlation because I find