June 10, 2024

Core Values, The Secret to a Life of Fulfillment

Core Values, The Secret to a Life of Fulfillment

So often we find ourselves wondering why we are not feeling comfortable in our lives or in our line of work, or our teenage children are trying to get a sense of their direction in life.
“Be true to yourself” is an often quoted phrase, yet how do we...

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So often we find ourselves wondering why we are not feeling comfortable in our lives or in our line of work, or our teenage children are trying to get a sense of their direction in life.
“Be true to yourself” is an often quoted phrase, yet how do we accomplish that?
I am pleased to have Andrea Johnson on the show. Andrea explains how we can discover our true core values and use them as a foundation to build a happy, successful and fulfilling life and career.

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of the day, it's not about
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It's about what you've done with those
accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted

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up, who you've made better.
It's about what you've given back. Denzel

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Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision.
Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives

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of others and to inspire you to
do the same. Andrea Johnson, Welcome

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to the show. Hey tch,
I'm glad to be here. Thank you

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so much. I'm really excited about
this one. There's so many things that

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we have in common that you know, we've been doing in our in our

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lives and our businesses. So I
look forward to this conversation. What I'd

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love for you to do, though, is to take a bit of time

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and explain to the audience who you
are and why you're doing what you're doing

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now and how you got to that
point, kind of the story behind how

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much time do you have right now? My name is Andrew Johnson. I

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am a transformational leadership coach and I
help leaders become all that they can be.

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And I personally love to take people
who are kind of disempowered and struggling

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and turn them into magnetic what I
call magnetic leaders. We take the understanding

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of who they are as a person
and help them kind of tap into that,

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help them understand how they communicate,
tap into that, and then we

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help them live it out in ways
that are like easy and gracious and kind

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and help them establish boundaries that are
effective. I am a Maxwell certified disc

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consultant, speaker, trainer, and
coach, so I am certified to use

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all of John Maxwell's materials and I
have a conference coming up in the fall

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and live to lead. So it's
all about leadership. And you know,

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we lead ourselves at first and other
second. And so the work that I

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started doing on myself goes all the
way back to my early twenty when I

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was twenty and I put myself in
the hospital for Bolomian depression. So if

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you look at my bio, or
if you look online or listen to any

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of my other interviews, you might
hear that story from me. But I

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just really struggled with being able to
fit into the world. You and I

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joked before we started recording that I
am a definition of a non team player

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according to DISC, and we'll probably
talk about DISC today, But you know,

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growing up in Southern evangelical culture,
you're supposed to be a team player.

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Women are supposed to be quiet,
women are supposed to fit in.

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Women are supposed to women are not
the leaders. And my in the Maxwell

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disc, I'm an ICD and I
am literally it's called the leader. So

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when I took that and I saw, oh my goodness, that is some

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validation for the bossiness I was told
about when I was a kid, and

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the opinions that I had, and
the ability to just take charge of any

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situation, to get on a stage
and talk whenever I need to, to

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take over a podcast episode and just
keep going. It validated all of those

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things, and it helped me understand
that I needed to embrace who I am.

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I spent almost twenty five years in
higher education, administration, and operations.

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Two of those two stints of those
were schools of medicine here on the

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East Coast, and they're fabulous schools. But the more I got into it,

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the more I realized, this is
not where I need to be am.

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I don't want to manage people.
I'm not interested in the status quo.

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I'm interested in something new and different. I'm interested in how we do

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it better. And that's what got
me interested, or that's what introduced me

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through a friend to the Maxwell Organization, and I said, you know what,

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this is what I want to do. And I tried doing it.

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And I don't know how many of
your listeners are like this, but I

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tried doing it inside the organization I
was currently working for, and at first

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they were like, yes, this
sounds wonderful, and then it was like

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no, no, no, you're
upset in the apple cart. You just

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make sure we do things the way
we always have done them, and I

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just said, you know, that's
enough. I need to be me.

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So now I work with founders of
their own businesses, CEOs, new management,

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people who just feel people who feel
like they just have responsibility without authority.

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They are consistently compromising their own core
values. They feel stifled or unsupported,

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maybe that unbalanced work life balance that
we always talk about, or goodness

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gracious, I can't tell you how
many people I have talked to who are

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bored because they're trying to fit in, and they have brains and they have

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the ability and the strengths to go
do something bigger, but they just don't

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have the courage or even the know
how. So I come alongside them and

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I help them, and I help
them either stay in their organization and lead

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better, or I help them branch
out and do their own thing. And

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how many times have you found what
you observe because you really mainly focus in

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the business, how many times do
you observe that what they are experiencing into

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business they take home with them and
it's merely a reflection of home or vice

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versa. Yeah, it's many times. It's more of the vice versa.

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I think they take what they've been
conditioned with and they bring that into the

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business setting, and that's just kind
of normal for us. Most of the

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time, people who are taking things
home are not the ones that are interested

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in talking to me, because they've
decided how they want to be the ones

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who are interested in being different and
the ones who are interested in literally turning

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over the apple cart. They're the
ones that come talk to me, okay,

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and you know it's fascinating you talk
about the disc tests and we're going

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to talk a lot about that for
people to understand when we talk about the

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D, I, S, C. And if they're more more aware of

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right, right and left Brian introvert, extrovert, how would you explain to

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them what the D, the I, the S and the C is.

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I like to say, depending on
who I'm talking to. I just had

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I did a podcast for physicians and
I said, well, this is all

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data on a four quadrant graph with
the x y axis. You know,

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my son is in geometry right now, so you know. But quite frankly,

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it is the spectrum, like you
said, extroverted to introverted and people

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versus task And I say, people
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very that's how it works, like, they're very extra and they're task oriented,

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and people in the lower left are
introverted and task oriented, and the

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right are extroverted in people and the
bottom right are introverted in people or reserved

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maybe we would say, and we
all plot somewhere in that, and it's

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like a circle that we all have
a little bit of all of them in

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us. It just depends on where
you land on the spectrum. So understanding

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where you land helps you see the
patterns with which you communicate or need people

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to communicate with you. And once
we understand patterns, then we can help

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communicate with others. I grew up
in Korea. I grew up in Soul,

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Korea. My parents were missionaries,
and I went to an international school

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with kids from sixty five different countries. I am attuned to hearing other languages

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on a regular basis. Being in
university medical centers and working in research and

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clinical research, I was very helpful
even if I didn't speak Chinese. I

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knew what it was like for a
Chinese person to try and speak English,

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and I could hear things differently than
other people could hear. So I use

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that as an example as well.
I don't walk into a store where they

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only speak Spanish and try to speak
English. I look for the Spanish I

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learned in tenth grade. You know, I mean, I just I look

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deep down, like where is it? Because I want to meet them where

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they are, and so when I
explain DISC to people, and it's like

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learning other people's language, learning how
to speak it. It's a lot easier

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than learning Spanish or French or Korean. And it gives you the opportunity to

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build bridges so that you can work
together in ways that are productive well.

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And I want to update a little
bit about that because it's really interesting.

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As I was sharing with you before
we actually started recording, I used to

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use a different type of personality evaluation
and this is more of behavioral and analysis,

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but I used to use a personality
one and I loved it because it

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talked about that core personality that we
have, who we really are, talked

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about the social personality, who need
to think we are or who we need

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to think to be, and then
the conscious personality. And there are so

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many tests out there, and I
can tell you that I have researched and

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research and researched. And what was
interesting is that I went and I finally

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found this one, the DISC that
you and I are both involved with,

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and I thought, you know,
I'm going to try something interesting because most

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of the tests that I've heard from
people, they only measure one You just

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get that one. You know,
you're this, this is this, you're

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right brain, left brain, whatever. And so I went and I'm not

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going to name the individual, but
I went to an extremely popular individual's website

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and they offered the personality test.
So I took it and it came back

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and I looked at it and I
thought, holy cow, this is my

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social personality. It hasn't gone into
any of the others. And I think

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it's important for people to understand that
we actually have those three different levels of

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behavior, those three different personalities.
Would you like to explain to the folks

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what those three are and then we
can talk about those a little bit more.

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Yeah, we in the Maxwell Report
uses like the mirrored self and the

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original self and that kind of stuff. I like to use the analogy of

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muscle groups. Right, do you
work out at all? Oh? Yeah,

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okay, so when you were born, you had specific muscles, and

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as you grew, we each have
muscles that just kind of naturally work for

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us. I have friends who look
at my arms and say, oh,

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you have muscular arms, and I'm
like, well, no, it's just

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because everything's hanging down and you can
just see the muscles that are defined there.

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But we all have muscles that develop
naturally in Some people are more muscular

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upper bodies, some are more My
dad had like the car No Earl Lewis

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no No, who was an Earl
Campbell, the running back, the famous

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running back. He had the Earl
Campbell thighs, you know, I mean,

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And my mother had calves. So
we all have different muscle groups that

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develop naturally on their own. And
so it is with our quote personality and

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the way we behave. That's what
we call our natural or our core self.

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That is the muscles we're born with, and when we're under stress,

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that's what comes out, like when
we get squeezed. And I even tell

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people this, it's like if you
squeeze a jar, I mean a tube

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of toothpaste, you don't expect peanut
butter to come out. So what happens

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is when you squeeze it, when
you get under stressed and you get squeezed,

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whatever comes out. That's what that
is. That's what's in yea and

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yeah, there you are. So
that's the muscles that we're born with.

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But a lot of times we've worked
on things because we've either been told we

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have deficiencies or we're told we're not
good enough in a certain area, or

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it's a weakness. We have to
work on our weaknesses, right, don't

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we And so we're told these things, or because of a job that we

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want to have, we develop certain
skills. If we want to go into

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management, maybe we're more reserved,
but we work on being more outgoing.

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And so so that other picture,
and that's the one that the disc actually

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really shows up for us, is
the muscles that we've worked on. Those

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are the muscles. Like you watch
a gymnast, male gymnast especially, you

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see this upper body and then this
tiny lower body. It's because they have

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to have all this upper body strength. They've worked really hard on that upper

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body stuff. Now their natural muscles
that they're born with might be a little

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different. So that's the muscles that
we've worked on, and that's the muscles

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that we continue to work on.
But what you called the social self is

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the muscles that we show up with
today. A football player is going to

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show up with different muscles than a
boxer or a sprinter, and so it

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may very well be that in my
job as a manager, I would show

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up with a little bit more d
a little bit more driver, a little

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bit more bossiness, if you will, or a little more bottom line to

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get people moving when I'm managing twenty
people. So those are the muscles that

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show up in my job right now. If you were to take that and

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go home and sit down and take
the disk in your home environment, different

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muscles are going to show up in
that social self for sure, and maybe

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even in the ones you've worked on, because you're showing up differently in that

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environment. So that social self is
very environmentally dependent. But other than that,

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you've got your muscles. You're born
with, the muscles you work on

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and the muscles you show up with. Okay, And I love that explanation

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as I look at and of course
I work. I did work in business

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for quite a while, but I've
been doing a little bit more personal stuff

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and so I look at it interestingly
with the social personality. So I totally

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love your the way you've described it. When you get into that social personality,

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it's like, all right, here's
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know, I'm going into this environment. This is who I need to be

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here, this is who I need
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so many times and we hear this
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really speaking their true voice. And
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certain situations, they will behave the
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our environment, or the effect of
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children, all of those types of
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control of that. And so as
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there, I look at it from
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and you literally are in control.
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d and see so you know,
very very strong oriented and so forth,

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and very detail oriented. I think
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my eye, my eye, which
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love to talk, you love to
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so forth, is in my core
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at that and I found that if
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of just stand in the corner until
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about something that was of interest to
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sudden, we just started talking,
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I was able to create that social
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And obviously I needed that if I'm
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but it was something that was created. So one of the things that I

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found with people who look at personality
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is they think that I can't change, and the reality is is that we

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can, and we can make changes, and we can make adjustments to change

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that so that we can literally be
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I also love about the disc test
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which is the similar one, is
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okay, you're either in the right
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but it actually goes in and does
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than what you most see. Do
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how they take a combination of these
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because of this and this and what
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you're going to want to communicate.
This is probably how you want to be

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communicated with. What type of leader
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where your core values are, and
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when we were talking about the X
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think about a spectrum of all the
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all the way to the left is
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that dotted line. You fall somewhere
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no people orientation skills. It means
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orientation skills. And so a lot
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are extremely task oriented and don't have
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DC. You know, if we
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to identify better with your patie and
to make small talk, I would probably

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give you a game or a task
that would help you gamify and like you

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said, figure out what the commonality
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that interests both of you to in
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order to look for look for clues
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then actually speak to those clues.
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you're on that quote unquote continuum of
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it doesn't matter that you're not really
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out ways to tap into that,
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you. And when you're looking at
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way. And S is and we'll
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the S is very change of verse, right, So excuse me. The

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S is very change of verse,
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right. And so when you're talking
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changes. You need to figure out
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of it and see that you're not
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are all about keeping the status quo. And so when you know where you

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fall in those areas, and a
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chart and we'll like plock them out
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your own particular quote blob lands on
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okay, like I joke about not
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that my S is just very negative. It's all the way in the I

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do. I don't mind change,
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then I can relate to it in
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of I'm only one or the other. Yes, And you know, I

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smile because again I get more into
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have for a while. And if
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study and it was just my own
personal studies, so there's no scientific basis

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behind it, folks. But what
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strength, and I believe that every
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disc whatever, is our strength.
But if we allow it to go too

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far, it can then become a
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D, holy cow, you better
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quick to offer your opinions. All
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that I needed to finally say,
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Dad, we just want you to
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found with an S A high S
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consistently staying in relationships that they shouldn't
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why because they really feared that type
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you get a high E who is
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and all of a sudden up and
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gone. So it's interesting to understand, you know, where we sit with

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all of that, but also understand
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it strong, or we can take
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go a little bit too far,
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We call that shadow side, you
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of the Every one of our strengths
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any personality test or any personal growth
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at that whatever my strengths are,
do I take them too far? I

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mean even that's that's what superheroes are, you know, and Marvel comics are

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made out of right. It's like
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It's a superpower that's gone too much. In the Maxwell Report, we

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have something called a power disc that
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you how developed you are on them. And not only does it give you

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ideas for how you communicate with others, how they need to communicate with you,

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but it also gives you an idea
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based on that power disc Now,
we don't all need to be excellent in

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every leadership skill. The goal is
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then mitigate or augment around us,
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Like I said, I'm not an
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I'm an ICD. So I like
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with detail and I'm going to do
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get bored with it, we're out
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like this conference I'm putting together.
I have a friend who has volunteered

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to help me, and she is
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She will put the process together and
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through. So I've learned about myself. Detailing is not my thing, and

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it doesn't mean that I don't need
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doesn't mean I don't need to learn
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that there are ways to build a
team around that that make a difference,

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which actually helps to also kind of
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where it's supposed to where it benefits
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Anything that we do too much is
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Even good food is bad. So
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smile when I have my dental practice. You know, it's like I made

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sure that my assistant and I actually
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I'm not a talker. I'm going
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very focused and so forth, I'm
going to do the dentistry and I will

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be friendly and so forth. But
you're the one that's going to develop the

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relationship with those patients. And so
I always hired someone who had that ability,

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and it made such difference, and
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important. You know, one of
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core values, and I know you
enjoy talking about that. So could you

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share with the audience what are core
value and how does an understanding of those

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core values really help us in our
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asking. I started off just doing
discwork with people, and I realized there

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was something deeper, and I've done
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and I are both old enough to
remember a good old fashioned Franklin cubby or

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Franklin planner. Did you ever use
a Franklin Planner. Okay, so this

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is my nineteen ninety five Franklin Planner
sheet when Steve Covey took over and I

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read his book and I put together
my governing values. My number my top

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one is freedom. But this is
like the six hole binder and laminated with

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packing tape as we used to do. And it's lasted almost thirty years long.

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This is older than my marriage.
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kept coming back to was realizing there's
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There is what's going on inside me
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talk out there about business core values, and I make a distinction and say

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business core values are more aligned with, or more what I would call mission

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and vision, whereas our internal and
personal core values are the principles and priorities

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that guide us and our actions.
These are our foundational convictions that allow us

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to navigate hard things, to navigate
complex things like all the winds that go

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through, in the waves that come
over, and all the things that we

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have that challenge us, all the
while keeping our identity and our authority at

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the forefront. These are our non
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They're not measurable, but when you've
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right, it's like you know,
it's like it's somebody. If you've

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reacted to something really strongly recently,
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core values or their organization core values. I ask them to look at whether

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or not can be honored, because
if I'm aligning something, I'm kind of

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taking on their core values. So
what I do is I start with the

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disc I help people kind of tactilely
and strategically see kind of how they're wired

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to do things, and then we
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underneath it all. So they're not
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reciprocal. If I have a core
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of thought, it's at twenty seven
it said freedom from a job, right,

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but now it's like at fifty seven, I'm like no, no,

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no, no, no, it's
much deeper than that. And because I

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can have a job, but don't
tell me how to think, which is

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why I didn't want to stay in
a large university setting, right, it's

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like they need things trains to run
on time. But when I want to

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be able to think freely, when
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and to break things apart and to
understand them, I want you to

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be able to do the same thing. So I'm never going to tell you

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that you have to think the way
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There are times when I feel very
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you to agree with me because one
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But at the same time, it's
like, no, Andrea, It's important

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for them to figure it out on
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with my clients, I help them
figure out what those non negotiables are for

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them. And when you layer those
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all right, this is who I
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it. It is phenomenal to watch
the metamorphosis in relationships, especially in families,

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relationships in teams. I've literally watched
doctors and team leaders just completely change

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the way they communicate knowing these things
are important. So, yeah, it's

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amazing. What are those seven core
values? If you can list them out?

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are not the core values yea user
yours internally. So when I work with

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patients. When I work with patients, listen to me, I'm talking to

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a dentist. When I work with
clients, we do a brain dump and

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we figure it out. I give
them some ideas for some different words we

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can use. But they're things like
respect and honesty and integrity, and for

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me it's authority and autonomy and authenticity
and belonging. These are things that you

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cannot you know, they're not even
a principle that you would want to live

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These are things that are inside us. They are They are the ones

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that give us the authority to lead, the ability to lead with conviction and

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passion, and the confidence to be
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not only do you brain dump,
but it's a lot of times is what

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would five people that are close to
me say about me? And then you

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kind of break those down and then
you walk through where where in your life

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they're showing up and so things that
matter to you. I mean, somebody

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who's a DC is probably going to
have core values that are related to that

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probably going to be you know,
things that might be attention to detail or

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doing things right the first time,
or making sure that you have integrity of

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purpose. Those kinds of things are
going to be more common for a DC

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for somebody like me as an I, they are very people related, right,

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It's like, first it's my thinking, but then it's belonging. Right.

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I want to make sure that you
feel like you belong in every conversation,

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and that I belong. And so
if if I don't feel like I

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belong, or if I can make
you belong because of the way you're treating

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me, then I'm going to reject. Right. So I mean it's those

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kinds of things and they are literally
individual to each person. Well, and

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have you found that oftentimes as you're
working specially you know, especially where you

401
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get into the business side, How
many times have you found and discovered that

402
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whatever the environment, the culture,
everything that's going on in a business is

403
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literally at odds with an individual leader's
core values. And what happens when that

404
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occurs, Well, you have two
choices. And if depending on the organization,

405
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I use myself as a good example, my organization a school of medicine

406
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needed things to be status quo.
They needed things to run smoothly. They

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needed to not constantly have ideas coming
out of ways we could do things better,

408
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or taking employees and promoting them into
somebody else's department. After two years

409
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because I've helped them grow, They're
like, why did you get rid of

410
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that person? Or what did you
do? I'm like, I just did

411
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my job, and they're like,
no, you didn't. So my core

412
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values of being able to think for
myself and teaching others to think for themselves,

413
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being authentic, helping them be authentic, and belonging were at odds with

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the institution that I was serving in
for the simple fact that I needed to

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be able to explore everything in here
and they needed me to do what they

416
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needed me to do to meet their
mission and vision. It doesn't mean either

417
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one of us was bad, but
there were times we had fights and it

418
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took me a while once I understood
this is really the problem here and I'm

419
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not gonna lie. There were times
I had like some bitterness, and even

420
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when I left, I had a
little bitter, a little bit of bitterness,

421
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But part of that was me working
through this idea Andrea, it was

422
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not a good fit for you.
So when I have a client, and

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I've actually had one do this,
when I have a client who realizes the

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institution in which they are serving is
not whatever it is organization, small business,

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big business is not able to honor
their core values depending on what they

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are, then they need to decide
if they want to find another place to

427
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be. And there's nothing wrong with
that. It also means that you can

428
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leave with integrity and to say I
can't support you, know, it's like

429
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this is not I can't support the
values, the mission and vision that you

430
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have. So I am going to
take away this tension that we have in

431
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this relationship. I'm going to go
find an organization where I can. And

432
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more and more organizations are putting out
there what their mission envision is, which

433
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makes it easier for those of us
looking for something that we can align with

434
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if you want to use that word, or where our core values can be

435
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honored to find someplace else. And
a lot of times in a bigger organization,

436
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.720
you can find a team where your
core values can be honored, even

437
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if they don't align with or go
along with the mission envision of the entire

438
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.599
organization. So I think there are
ways to do that, but you just

439
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.359
have to decide is this something that
I can deal with or not. Mostly

440
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.759
it's I just want my core values
to be honored, and I want to

441
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:41.519
honor yours well. And what's interesting
is how you can use this to bring

442
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in people that and actually pre evaluate
who is going to fit into the values

443
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.880
of the company versus those who are
not. And so often that sure,

444
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as you've experienced, people just higher
high or hire and they never take the

445
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time to do that type of investigation
because they don't have the tools. Right.

446
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.960
They hire for skill, they don't
hire for personality, and they don't

447
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.640
hire for disposition. And when you
don't when you because skills can be taught,

448
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:13.240
right, everybody can learn something,
right, So when you like,

449
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.720
we even have if you want to
do the disc, we have a benchmarking

450
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.799
disc that you can use. If
you've got four employees that are just really

451
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.200
good examples of how you want to
hire in this area, they all take

452
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:29.519
the benchmarking and then you have one
that is that is that's your benchmark,

453
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.720
and then every applicant that like maybe
makes it through the first phase or whatever,

454
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whoever you want to potentially hire,
then you have them take the disk

455
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and see how they measure to that
benchmark because a lot of times, and

456
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I'm one of those people, you
walk in and really blow people away in

457
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.319
an interview, and I've had staff
members do this to me where they'd put

458
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me away in an interview and I
thought I understood them, and I did

459
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not, and it was so rough. So, yeah, we, even

460
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with the best intentions, we can
do that. But yeah, having something

461
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.799
that that gives you an idea of
you can't ask people what their core values

462
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.960
are. You can say these are
ours. How can you work within that?

463
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:12.680
How does this hit you that you
know this is what we're going to

464
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.039
do, This is we're going to
expect you can lay all that out in

465
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.119
an interview thoughts? Well, and
what comes to my mind, and it's

466
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.559
interesting the study that I was looking
at where a company hired two salespeople and

467
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as you say, they just came
across amazingly well. And after about six

468
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.240
months to a year, one was
just kicking it, I mean he was

469
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:37.319
just amazing, and the other one
was just failing and they couldn't figure it

470
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out. And finally they found someone
to come in and did the disc and

471
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they discovered that the one that was
kicking it, one of his main values

472
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:50.200
was economic, and when they looked
at the one that was not kicking it

473
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:55.279
very well, his main value was
something entirely different. The economics was way

474
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down on the scale. And so
they realized that although they could both come

475
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:05.720
up cross so well, the core
values were really affecting their ability to accomplish

476
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what they needed to accomplish. Yeah, and so the Maxwell reports, there's

477
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.960
quite a few of them, and
one of them, the regular Adult Communication

478
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.440
Report, does not give you an
understanding of what your core values might be

479
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.280
Career. The college and career one
that my son at fifteen has taken,

480
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.760
does it gives you an idea of
what they might be. Now that's up

481
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.199
to you to determine. As we
do with all disc reports, we look

482
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at them and they, like you
said it earlier in our conversation, this

483
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is what you might be. This
is how it might be for you.

484
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.000
Yes, and then you get to
decide how accurate that is. But for

485
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:45.199
his there are some values that they
look for in the questions and helping them

486
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.360
see that. I was thrilled as
a core values person, I was thrilled

487
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.480
to see Oh my goodness, they're
actually telling my son. You know,

488
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.559
number one, this is how you
learn these are the things that are important

489
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.480
to you. And I can look
at that and say, yeah, that's

490
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really those really are important him.
So our normal report is thirty two pages,

491
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the college and career when it's forty
two pages. So we'll until the

492
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summer. We got three three weeks
of school left. Were waiting until the

493
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summer to really kind of walk through
that with him so that he has a

494
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:17.719
better understanding moving forward of why things
upset him, why things are important to

495
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.400
him. And when we do that, those two things why things upset me

496
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.840
and what is important to me really
just kind of help you move through the

497
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:31.039
world in a way that is just
much more peaceful and much more honest.

498
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:36.320
And it helps you to the thing
about understanding your core values, Doug,

499
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is it helps you set your boundaries
internally and not have to defend yourself all

500
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the time, you know, and
just say, you know what, this

501
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.480
is just a thing for me,
this is this is non negotiable for me.

502
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.880
I got to walk away and it's
okay. And most most people,

503
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.440
if they really care about you're gonna
be like, oh, okay, you

504
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:53.320
know. I mean, it's just
like the door on the front of my

505
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.599
house. Nobody walks in my door
without me and inviting them or opening the

506
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.320
door to them, you know.
So, yeah, those things are important.

507
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.440
And when we can see the differences, it's not just behavior. A

508
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.440
lot of times, it's motivational quality. It's what's motive motivating us. And

509
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.480
if economics is motivating me as a
salesperson, I am going to kick it,

510
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.199
that's right. Economics, Like for
my son, I'm really struggling because

511
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:20.679
economics is not one of his for
sure, because I can't get him to

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00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.239
Moti lawn even if I pay him, and so it's you know, it's

513
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.960
like free time or freedom or something
for him as well. But being able

514
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.039
to figure out ways that motivate people, because even knowing that that gentleman was

515
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.000
not motivated by economics, they probably
could find something that would be motivating for

516
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him that would help him. And
all the tests that we're talking about help

517
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us do that. Well. And
you mentioned something and I kind of use

518
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the word awareness, but you know, so many times people just struggle with

519
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:52.239
why am I doing this? Why
am I doing that? Why do I

520
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.639
get upset? So on? And
so forth. And I think that this

521
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is one tool that I find so
effective in being able to help someone to

522
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.199
become aware of why they feel the
way they do, why they get triggered,

523
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.360
why do they do all of these
things? And I know that you

524
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.159
talk a little bit about three levels
of awareness, the abcs, would you

525
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.639
share with the audience? Absolutely?
And I need to come up with some

526
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.880
kind of really cool graphic for this, but I haven't yet. I use

527
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.880
an iceberg as my main example for
it, but I call them my assumptions,

528
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:30.039
beliefs, and conditioning. And as
a woman who has gone through a

529
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:34.760
lot of things in order to understand
who I am, I have become very

530
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.039
aware of the conditioning that I have
that I've had since I was young,

531
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and some of it is external.
And then we start taking it on for

532
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.599
ourselves and build that iceberg so that
everything floats well. But our assumptions,

533
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.320
the levels of awareness, I call
them, the assumptions, are our first

534
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.000
one, the a's. These are
the things that kind of everybody, it's

535
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.440
out there, everybody bumps into them. We might not realize we have an

536
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.960
assumption, but once we're aware of
it, we say, oh okay,

537
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.079
well, evidently that's that's an assumption
that I have. I walked into the

538
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.239
room, and this is where I
believed to be true, right. But

539
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.519
then the next level below that is
the beliefs. It's like understanding. These

540
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.880
are the things that I have either
latched onto or been told all my life

541
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:19.239
were true, and therefore they show
up as assumptions. But the beliefs are

542
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.039
kind of right at the waterline.
Some of them are buried below. We

543
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.480
don't always understand that we believe something. We talk in personal growth about the

544
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.119
things we believe about ourselves. Those
are the things that are right underneath the

545
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.159
water line, you know. Like
I was told when I was young,

546
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not everybody wants to hear my opinion, and so I too really stifled myself

547
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.719
and tried not to share my opinion. Now people invite me on their shows

548
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.559
or pay me to give them an
opinion, you know, because I've figured

549
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.920
out a way to share that and
in a way that is productive. But

550
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.440
the conditioning, the Iceberg piece,
that is all at the bottom. If

551
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:54.880
you look at you know, if
you just go Iceberg model on anything,

552
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:59.679
you'll see it and it won't be
the awareness situation. But those are the

553
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:05.920
things that we just don't realize we
have kind of allowed to build us up

554
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.599
and put a foundation underneath everything that
we believe all of our lives, and

555
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:13.679
the older we are, the more
conditioning we have unless we've really worked on

556
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.760
it. There's a situation in my
personal life right now that it's actually very

557
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:23.480
positive, but with my husband it's
a situation outside of our family, but

558
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.800
it is. Again it's very positive. But when he told me about it,

559
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.199
I immediately was like, no,
I'm not doing that, and I

560
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:35.280
didn't. I couldn't believe it.
After all this time, I work on

561
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all my awareness and I do all
this stuff. And so then the next

562
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day, like, I mean,
I throat clothes just thinking about it.

563
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This is how conditioning creeps up on
us. I looked at him yesterday and

564
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.679
I said, I need you to
understand. I said, this is not

565
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.119
something. Necessarily I can believe something
else I can say I believe something,

566
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:59.159
but evidently I am conditioned to think
this is not okay, or I am

567
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.159
conditioned to think that this is too
emotionally overwhelming for me, even though it's

568
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.840
very positive. And so right now, like if you're not watching this on

569
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.920
video, I'm like holding my arms
up saying this is my conditioning in front

570
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.880
of me. I can't even see
you, right, So we don't even

571
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realize sometimes how deep it goes and
how important it is to understand because I

572
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:27.119
want to do this thing that I've
been requested or offered, but I have

573
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to work through this conditioning piece and
understand it in myself before I'll be able

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to say yes, and because it
would mean a lot to another person if

575
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I could do this. And so
when we talk about awareness, especially in

576
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.760
things like that, I don't know
about you, and I don't know about

577
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.119
your clients, but I personally kick
myself over that stuff. Why didn't I

578
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:51.239
know that or why didn't I see
that in myself? And I always tell

579
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my clients we know what we know
when we know it. We didn't know

580
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.960
it five minutes ago, we know
it now, But five minutes from now,

581
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.159
you can kick yourself if you still
pretend like you don't know it.

582
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.800
But right now, don't kick yourself. Right It's like we have to give

583
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:10.280
ourselves the grace of understanding that we
do have those things that we just are

584
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.239
not aware of yet. And the
process of personal growth is becoming aware of

585
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.280
the things that we either want to
celebrate or we want to change. Well,

586
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.800
and when we start to discover that, how do we deconstruct it?

587
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:30.440
How do we deconstruct all of those
subconscious imprints And believe me, they come

588
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.760
from everywhere, as you know,
you know, whether it's family or friends,

589
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:37.960
or school, or religion or whatever
it is. And our reality,

590
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.960
I mean, I've learned this,
our reality of life is basically controlled by

591
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:49.920
that. How do we deconstruct that
so that we start to create an entirely

592
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.239
different reality, a different way of
life that really brings about such a higher

593
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.880
level of joy and peace, happiness, love, all of those type of

594
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.679
things. Well, the third big
pieces to my business. The first is

595
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.800
the core values understanding yourself. The
second is the disc understanding how you communicate.

596
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:07.920
And the third is what I call
my tenets of intentional Optimism. It's

597
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.880
six tenants that I personally live by. It's the attitudes and mindsets that we

598
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.760
embody to employ and live out those
dreams and goals with excellence. And I

599
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:21.679
like to tell people because when people
hear deconstruct, they usually hear destruct.

600
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.039
They don't hear deconstruct, they hear
destruct. They hear I'm going to take

601
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:28.880
a baseball bat to all of this
and it's going to come crashing down.

602
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.280
I'm like, no, that's not
how it works. I've watched my son

603
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.079
take apart drones and lego things and
put them all back together and figure out.

604
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.400
You know, I've watched him deconstruct, but he never does that to

605
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.639
not use the pieces again. Right, So part of it is number one,

606
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.400
shifting the way we see deconstruction.
It's taking it apart, pulling the

607
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.280
strings, taking the spaghetti noodles and
laying them all out and saying where did

608
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:59.480
this come from? I have done
some pretty serious deconstructing in my spiritual life.

609
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:01.280
And my dad was a missionary and
a pastor, and I told him,

610
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.159
I said, yeah, I thought
this. I thought this one thing.

611
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.039
And he said, why would you
think, ma' And I said,

612
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.760
well, honestly, Dad, I
thought I got it from you because as

613
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.920
a kid, he was my spiritual
leader. And then as an adult I

614
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.880
kind of became my own and realized
that I had these understandings or beliefs,

615
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.159
and I somehow I just attributed everything
that I had in my head to my

616
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.800
dad. They said, I I've
never told you that. I'm like,

617
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.400
I know, I'm working on it, you know. But the piece I'd

618
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.519
like to say there is I'd like
for this to be a positive, professional,

619
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.760
adjuctant way to move forward. And
that's what the intentional optimism tenants do.

620
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:45.760
It's being optimistic hopeful literally looking for
hope and being confident and being proactive,

621
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.960
trying to get out and like,
if I'm aware of something, how

622
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.400
can I work with it. The
second is being present. It's not just

623
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:54.719
being where your feet are, as
Bob Goff says, it's being open and

624
00:43:54.800 --> 00:44:00.760
kind and generous and having a sense
of wonder. I love watching my garden

625
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.199
grow every spring. When those crocus
come up out of the snow, I

626
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.239
am thrilled to see them. And
part of the wonder I have is that

627
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.360
they keep coming up every year because
I know what they've been through, right,

628
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.559
and I know what it's like.
The third is being energetic. It's

629
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.599
being life focused. It's choosing to
focus on things that bring life and excitement

630
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:22.440
and joy rather than things that don't. It's being the fourth one is courageous.

631
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.880
This is a sense of leadership.
This is adventure. It's the resilience

632
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.639
that I talk about when we fall
down and get back up and we build

633
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.199
those muscles, those muscles that we've
worked on for so long. You know,

634
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.599
it's like figuring out how to get
back up. Then the fifth one

635
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:38.599
is being wise and dad. This
one was the hardest one for me to

636
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:44.840
embrace as something that I could pursue, because to me, wisdom is something

637
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.039
that you just you're granted when you're
eighty five or something. You know.

638
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.440
It's like all the old ladies in
my church had the wisdom, you know.

639
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.679
Is we all have wisdom that we
can cultivate right now, no matter

640
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.360
how old you are. But it's
really more a sense of respecting and using

641
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:05.360
our words wisely and seeking to understand, as Steve Covey says, before being

642
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.119
understood. And then the last one
is doing it all with intention, having

643
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:13.159
a sense of purpose. Working in
a medical center, I wore heels and

644
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.920
you could hear me walking down the
hall and they would say. People would

645
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.440
say to me, yeah, I
know Andrew is coming. Like I don't

646
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:22.239
wander, you know, I have
a destination, I have a plan.

647
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.800
And all of everything we're talking about
right now is this desire to grow.

648
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.719
And if you don't have an intention
to grow, you will not. That

649
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.079
is it's just plain and simple.
So when I talk about deconstruction with people,

650
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.559
a lot of it is just saying, what am I aware of?

651
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.880
What doesn't serve me anymore? And
how can I move forward in a way

652
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:45.440
that's going to make good use of
all of these experiences that I have in

653
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.719
my life, all the bad stuff, all of the good stuff, and

654
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.679
my own strengths and my own personality. That can we move forward with that?

655
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.239
So it's almost like a deconstruction reconstruction, you know, it's like a

656
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:04.840
repurposing and reusing and only understanding who
you really are and then being true to

657
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:08.400
yourself. You're the one that you're
going to be with no matter where you

658
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.559
are, no matter how long you
live. You're the only one that's going

659
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.039
to always be there, and you
need to make good friends with yourself.

660
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.599
Well. So as we get near
the end, I'd love for you to

661
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:27.119
share if you had one message with
everything you have done, if you could

662
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.119
just share a short message with the
audience from your heart, what would that

663
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:37.760
be? Please think for yourself,
Please be willing to look inside and decide

664
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.519
who you want to show up to
be. It may be a scary process

665
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.639
for you, but it's never a
bad process. It's always a good process.

666
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.199
Even if you have to get rid
of some stuff, take it to

667
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.440
goodwill. Whatever you need to do, you are worth it because you were

668
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:57.519
put here for a purpose. You
were created beautifully and if you don't show

669
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.000
up as you, we won't have
the beauty that is you to share with

670
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:05.719
us. I love it. So
I'm curious why do you like to do

671
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.119
these podcasts? Well, partly I
just love to talk, you know,

672
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.199
But you can talk to people that
I can't reach on my own podcasts because

673
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.199
they may not come to my podcast, they may not come to one of

674
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:21.920
my workshops. They may not come
to a live that I do, or

675
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:23.880
a chamber meeting that I do,
or a conference that I do. But

676
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:29.440
being on other people's podcasts gives me
the opportunity to talk to more and more

677
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.840
people. Because I believe in this
message so strongly that I want other people

678
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.119
to hear it. I want as
many people in the world to hear it

679
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:42.599
as possible. And I appreciate the
privilege of being in other people's audiences all

680
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.840
the time, being able to share
this stuff. Oh that's great, And

681
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:50.400
your main focus is on businesses,
is that correct? Or do you do

682
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.480
a lot of personal stuff too.
I don't do as much personal I started

683
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.800
off thinking I wanted to be like
a personal life coach, but I find

684
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.960
that I function better and I give
more or strategic input to people in more

685
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:06.239
of a business setting and maybe that
it overflows into their personal life. But

686
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.119
I do a lot of work with
teams. I love doing workshops with people.

687
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.440
I like the give and take and
the interaction with multiple people. I

688
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.159
just know that about my personality and
I think better. Pardon me, I

689
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:21.679
think better and I do better in
those situations. So I am the person

690
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.199
who can come in and help your
team figure out where they need to move

691
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.719
people around, how they need to
communicate better, and if you, as

692
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.639
a leader, need to start with
yourself, I'm your girl, all right.

693
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:37.239
How do these people find you?
Well? I am the Intentional Optimist.

694
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.519
So you can find my website,
which is the Intentional Optimist dot com.

695
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.119
You can find me on LinkedIn or
Instagram. You can find me on

696
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.239
Facebook, but that's mostly personal.
If you dm me on Instagram or LinkedIn,

697
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:50.280
I'll dm you back. I'll message
you back for sure. But if

698
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.960
you go to my website, right
above my head is a button and it

699
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:57.519
says free Core Values exercise. If
you want to get started on that,

700
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.320
that is a one page downloadable that
just kind of want she through the process,

701
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.639
and if you need more help,
at the bottom of that page is

702
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.400
information on my digital course and how
I do private coaching on that kind of

703
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:14.039
thing. And on my website you'll
find DISK assessments and debriefs and teamwork and

704
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.159
then you can contact me for anything
else you might need. Wonderful, Henrea,

705
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.199
thanks so much for being on the
show. This has been interesting,

706
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.920
and you know, recently I have
not focused much on business, but We've

707
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:30.960
kind of got into this again because
I'm so fascinated by the DISC test and

708
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.599
how that can help businesses. And
it really does. I mean I did

709
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:39.159
work with small businesses and it was
fascinating how taking that and helping the business

710
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.920
owner to understand who he was,
where his core values are, what was

711
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.519
motivating him, all those type of
things, How it made such a difference

712
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:52.639
in how he was actually leading and
managing his company or her company. Yeah,

713
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.360
and you can do this in your
family as well. And like I

714
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.679
said, my son is taking his
DISC and we're going to work on that

715
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.519
together. My husband has his we
know what our disc type is are and

716
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.039
we're going to work on that this
summer because he's our only son. He's

717
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.400
adopted, and we want to make
sure that we do right by him,

718
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.199
right want to We want to raise
him well and give him all of the

719
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:15.800
opportunity that he has within himself to
become everything he can be. So it's

720
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.639
not just for businesses. It can
be for families and is very helpful.

721
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.920
But yeah, well, and as
you say, and I think this is

722
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:27.559
so powerful, I've done this with
a few kids. You know, they

723
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.840
they come they're in high school,
they're coming out of high school, trying

724
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.880
to figure out what they want to
study in college to be able to go

725
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:37.719
in and look at some of those
very specific tests that you mentioned and help

726
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.719
them to understand where their values are, what their motivators are, and where

727
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:47.880
their talents might be so that they
can literally get involved in something in the

728
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.679
school that actually is going to be
fulfilling for them. And I've seen that

729
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:57.880
happen with my own kids. In
fact, I have two kids that studied

730
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.320
entirely different things because they thought that
that's what they should do, and out

731
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:07.639
of school they have just completely done
something totally different and had we look at

732
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:14.000
the disc we would I started.
I started as a nursing major and finally

733
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:16.159
ended up as a business major with
a concentration of music industry. And so

734
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:20.280
I've used my business degree, but
I started as a nursing major. I

735
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.079
just couldn't. That's my authenticity.
It's like I couldn't continue to it.

736
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.840
It just never would have worked.
Yeah, and see, as parents,

737
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:31.920
we can actually kind of get in
there and help our children to not make

738
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.440
some of the decisions that we've all
made that we found later on we wish

739
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:40.039
we hadn't so absolute. Anyway,
thanks for being on the show, Andrea.

740
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:44.559
This has been a great conversation.
I appreciate it, and folks,

741
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.599
thanks for listening. Hope you enjoyed
it and look forward to having you join

742
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:49.320
us again. Sin