Your Reality Isn’t Real

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0:44 Denzel Washington, welcome to inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to do the same. Joey, Welcome to the show. That's great to be here with you, doctor Doc. I'm excited for a powerful conversation. Oh I am too. You know. It's always so much fun. One of the things I love to do. And it may be a little different than a lot of podcasters because they usually do this whole introduction and so forth, and the Kui franklaf find that boring. But what I love you for you to do is tell your story because there's always a journey, there's always something behind where you have reached the point you are with what you're doing, and I'd like you to share that with the audience who you are and what.

1:24 Was your journey. Absolutely so, I'm Joey Drolschegen. I mean everything I do is related to you know. They call me the rapid growth Specialist. Everything I do is about rapid growth. It's about bringing out chain, bringing about transformation, and really instead of the baby steps and things like that are wishful thinking is to really get clear on what the desire is and then move into achieving that and doing so without killing ourselves with massive actions exhaustively. The reason that's important to me is I grew up in a very low income family in Detroit, Michigan, and I watched my parents struggle my entire youth, you know, And when I when I was like ten years old, I you know, I had this event happen where I spent the night at a friend's house and this day I gave us twenty dollars to go to Diry Queen and my family we had to save up to do that and so we you know, and I went back home.

2:12 And it's like, man, it was such energy difference with it and stuff, and. I thought, man, you guys are not living right, and I'm not going to live like you guys do. But then I got into my twenties and I started experiencing those same struggles. I started experiencing those same and really one of the ways of explaining this is when I was in my twenties early twenties, if something came easy for me, I thought I didn't earn it because I didn't work hard enough for it, so I didn't deserve it, and I would let those things pass. And all every area of my life fit into that, those that programming and such. So as I started going and I started in a career and sales from the ground up, and I would bust my hump and I'd traveled three to five thousand miles a week trying to build territories and I was getting nothing. And yet I saw other people contract after contract, you know, and that way I saw.

3:00 People in happy relationships. I saw people with you know, a savings account and things, and it was such a struggle to get any of that stuff for me At twenty two years old, I started diving into what's the matter with me? And it's been this three plus decade of experiences in the unfolding. Isn't that interesting in how we get to a point? And for you know, not everybody gets blessed to get to that point where they had that aha moment, you know, what, something's wrong here. I've got to figure out what it is. Yes, and it took me decades to understand it. To continue learning and diving into things and find out what doesn't work for me, you know, and to get to this point of doing what I do today and helping people rapidly bring about what they want to experience in this lifetime and quit wasting time and quit wishful thinking their life away.

3:55 Well, and you've hit a really good thing on the head. And I think this is important for the audience to know. You know, there are so many different ways and I'm in the same boat you have been in where I've tried this, I've tried that, and some things have worked, some things haven't worked, and ultimately you get to the point where you start to feel that connection that resonant in your life that Okay, what I'm doing now seems to be working, and every once in a while something comes up and goes, Okay, I gotta work on this one. But it's interesting that people are going to have to really check things out to figure out what works for them. And that's why I love doing this podcast because as interviewing different people, they all have slightly different approaches, but somebody's going to listen to you today and it's going to resonate with them and it's going to make a difference in their lives. And that's that's the whole goal.

4:46 Yeah, And with what you said there, doctor de you know, we all have a pathway in life, right and we bump up against what I call life's lessons, which are the things that don't work out, but we can learn from them. So but there's a lot of things that could have happened sooner and bigger than they did for me. But because of my programming, which we'll get into, because of the way my perceptions on how I perceive things is what stopped them. And it's fascinating how that subconscious, those imprints that are lying there can have such an effect on our lives. And I'm curious, do you ever get into epigenetics because I think that it's fascinating that, you know, what we can experience or we can recognize the subconscious imprints from our childhood and those type of things. But how many times do we recognize that a lot of this stuff is coming from ancestry? And epigenetics is playing a big role in that.

5:41 I mean, everything I do does now we don't have to go back and find out what that is. You know, when I work with a client, I'm interested in two points. The first point is where exactly are you right now? Right? That's point one. And then the second point, which I help them develop, that is where do you want to be? What do you want experience life? You know, how do you want to experience? And from those two points, I can help anybody go through that avenue of of you know, bridging that gap from one side to the other. Well, and let's get into that because you've developed this SMT methodology and can you kind of explain to the audience what that is. Yeah, so I'll just explain it a little bit, get a minute or so, but yeah, So I throughout that three decade period, I've gone a lot of books and when I read a book I turned into an experiment.

6:29 I'll read it one time through, I'll go back and create experiments of it. I've gone through, you know, the things like manifesting and things like that. You know, all of those things. I've gone in self study, I've gone in working one on one with a coach, working in group atmospheres and stuff. And I couldn't figure out why I was investing all this, and I really leaned into it, you know, I couldn't figure out why I'd walk away again and again and again, thinking, man, there's something the matter with And so once the dial started connecting, once I started understanding the importance of the subconscious and motherboard, and they're the host all of our programming. That's not just the voice we hear in our head, but it's what triggers the brain waves to the actions we take or we don't take. And so once I started understanding that, once I started experiencing that change happening and such, the SMT method is subconscious mindset training, and it's really utilizing the power we have to reprogram our brain to open up avenues that were not possible for us prior to understanding, to identifying what those programs are and then shifting those we wouldn't be able to achieve what we achieved. In a lot of times, the hardships that we go through in life, we can use that. It's fuel, the energy in those hardships. It's fuel to launch us beyond what we could have achieved without that hardship. So now we start pull vaulting based on the heart, you know, the tough situations we have well.

7:53 And it's interesting that so often, you know, we talk about different types of addiction, but so often I think we could be in addicted to that subconscious imprint that's going on, and to be able to actually recognize that, and I'll be interested to hear how you do this, but you know, to jump from there and use that to move into a different mindset and to be able to change the neural pathways. And I think this is so important for the audience that you can change the neural pathways. Those habits have created a neural pathway that just automatically happens, and you literally, you're conscious can change that and change habitually the way you act into the point of what you're talking.

8:35 About, absolutely, and it's you know, it's those experiences we had you know, our patterns, our paradigms, our like belief systems, and like you said, our experiences. But you know, you or I don't even have to have the experience. If we're growing up. When we hear somebody talk about how hard businesses and how it kills you and everything else and stuff, we're more app not to ever step out into business like that. We didn't experience it, but because he told us it, it became part of that proper. You know that programming and the network are those brain waves and such. So part of the thing is most people don't even realize that they're living by that programming because it's so natural to do the things they do. So I have worked with clients and.

9:17 And done things to help them realize how how we get into a pattern without even realizing it, Doctor Doug. I did it one time with the guy who said I don't have any of that stuff, and I go, Okay, when you when you shower tomorrow, I want, you know, lather your. Hair ten times and then rinse. He goes, what's that gonna do? I go, just do it. He called me back the next day and he kind of cursed me a little bit. But in a fun way. But he said I couldn't do it. I did it ten times and then I went to rinse, and it's like no, and he went back to his pattern. We brush our teas and we do all this stuff by pattern, but and we look at we can use those things to illustrate, not that they're controlling our life. But we're the same way on the bigger things. We're the same way on the opportunities we allow in. We're the same way when we're robotically conditioned all the way through school where if you and I are working on a math problem and I show it long form and get the right answer, I get full credit. If you, for instance, have a shortcut and you still get to that answer, you get marked down.

10:16 So we're robotically conditioned to every everybody do it the same way. Everybody do it the same way. That's that's a lot of the analogy with a lot of the programs I had experienced where it's like we have your A, B, and C. If you do this, this and this, you're going to get this because we did well. Nobody less than one percent of those people following I ever achieved that because it's not based on their uniqueness of their conditioning, their desires, all of that. So it was really important when I built the SMT method is I've created this journey that's is individualized as each individual who steps into that journey, and that's how it brings results so much quicker because we're not all doing the same thing like robots trying to get the same you know, the to the D factor, right, we're finding out, we're developing systems of accelerating habits, we're developing a vision. We're doing these things that are unique to the individual, carrying those forward and that's how we start opening up that door. And here's why, because when we're doing those A, B and C, we can overlook that and live through our programming through the whole thing and not get the results we're looking for, or we can go through this process that's based on the individual. So we're coming out with a vision that excites us, not something somebody told us we're making ten million dollars in a week or something, you know. And as we go through and we start developing systems of accelerating habits, we're doing it for the individual that I'm working with. What you and I come up with for your you know, systems of accelerating habit is going to be totally different than mine or anybody else's. So it's really a unique experience to every individual, and that's how

11:49 people get results quicker. Yeah, And I love that because, as you say, it's such an individual you know. And the other thing I love what you said is the fact that we don't even know sometimes, you know, we hear some thing said and based on our perception whatever that is, which may not be accurate, all of a sudden, that becomes an imprint and has nothing to do with family. I had nothing to do with anything other than we heard something, we interpreted it a certain way, and it became embedded as a belief. Yes, yes, yes, And ultimately, here's the thing with it, all of it, regardless of a program or what area or whether it's business or personal or whatever it is. When we step into that, when we start moving through that area, we cannot go out and get to that person that we want to be. We have to come from that place inside of us. And in order to do that, we have to be able to identify the patterns, the limitations, the habits, all that stuff that's causing us limitations shift those and then that opens up the door to becoming that person, you.

12:52 Know, And that goes about something that I am just so strongly opinionated about because I hear there's so many times in religion, everything else you need to do this, you need to do that in order to accomplish this, and so forth. And it's like, you know what you need to become, be as you're talking about, get in there and analyze it and become. And when you do that, then that behavior is just naturally going to follow and the results are going to naturally and we don't have near the limitation and the problem with not the problem the hard part of all this stuff is, like I said earlier, we don't even know we're living. Through those you know, through that conditioning in that programming. Yeah, that is so true. Well let's get into some specifics here.

13:33 So what is. That method and how does it really help people? So so my whole thing in doing this what worked for me and again what took me years or decades to figure out my client's achieve in weeks now you know. So, But what it is is we come out of the gate developing what the SMT method refers to as a dynamic vision. So we get a big vision and we get the clarity of that vision. What looks like feels like, oh that's a but we build that vision. Even in doing that, people will tap against that programming and so as they do, it has tools that we walk through to start shifting that programming and putting it in align with the vision. And so and as we're doing that, we start seeing some of that open. So it becomes an exciting process to go through. And once as we're stepping through it, we get into you know, the mind, we get into self like self imagery, things like that and how we see ourselves as such. And it also we start developing systems of accelerating habits. And I'll give you a quick example. You ever see somebody do a Facebook live and you can tell they don't want to be there.

14:39 I don't watch those, but yeah, I can imagine I. Feel bad for the person. So that's not that person's wheelhouse, that's not that person's avenue. Now you ever see somebody who does a live and you can tell they're they're at home, they're they're on and you watch those longer. That's somebody who's in alignment that they're there. You know, that's part of their passion is doing things like that. So what the SBT method does is it helps each individual find what is that for them, leading towards that vision. And as we start opening that up, what we do is we find more time to spend doing that than the things that we don't want to do and can't stand doing and is really working against us. And as we're doing it, we're continually bumping up against patterns. You know, we have tools to help like quickly shift that and then we can go deeper into it.

15:28 Because you spoke on perceptions, and I have four siblings and when we get together and talk about stories of things growing up that we're all there for there's five different perceptions of that event because we all have our own perceptions. So if we want to change, if we have to become this, then it starts with okay, where am I at right now? And then we can back that up and going what are the perceptions leading me to seeing it there? Which then backs us up into the programming, So we shift the programming, It shifts the perceptions, and it allows us to experience something different in our life. All right, And you know you talk about achieving that desire, those goals, that vision that they really want. How do you help them? Because I guarantee you that so many times people will say, all right, this is my vision, and yet guess what, it's not their vision. It's based on all of those imprints in the subconscious. So how do you help people to move away from the imprinted visions of their life and goals and desires and purposes and so forth to where it's genuinely who they are.

16:33 Yeah, and even to add to that, like you know, anything vision wise and stuff like vision boards and stuff can be really powerful. But I find that a lot of people, if I really get down to asking them a few questions, I find out they don't really know what they want. Yeah, they just don't want to struggle. They want to get beyond the struggle, you know, in the toughness. They want a relationship if they're alone, they want to you know, whatever it is. They want to have some money to go and do things and travel and stuff like that. But most people don't even really know what they want. So the dynamic vision that's set up, and I take two weeks right up front in the process to help people define that and help them grow that and help them build that. So there's a vision. There's a powerful vision, which like vision boards and such are where you got the view of it and stuff you can see it. But then there's a dynamic vision where you start adding that feeling tone, what's it feel like to live that life being that person, and we add all that to it. And I have helped people. I mean, that's one of the things I do right out of the gate is help people to build that vision beyond what they can believe. A powerful vision is a vision, or a dynamic vision is a vision.

17:37 When you get done writing it, it should be. I have no flipping idea how I'm going to achieve that, but you do. Most of you tie in the emotion and that's it seems to me that might be the key. Is that is you know I'm talking about all right, I want to accomplish this that now you're telling me, all right, let's tie it into your emotions and how does that really feel? And do you find that you're able to actually identify that Okay, that really isn't backed up by a true emotion, and all of a sudden you find something, Okay, there's there is and there's the connection with the emotion. Because if we're not emotional about it, we don't really want it. If we have no emotion. You know, I love what I do, doctor Doug. I love that I get to spend my life doing this.

18:18 And this is after a twenty year career in corporate America, you know, And I absolutely love it. And so when I think of working with the client, when I sign a new client, I do a walk, you know, a walk in gratitude. I call it where I do. And there's times when I used to wear the headset like you got, and I don't plug it, and I find myself a block away from where I'm at still having the headset. I forgot to take a look. But yeah, we when we have the emotional charge to it, it helps break it that much quicker then just the visual of it. Now, one of the things I'll tell you is a lot of people they have visions. They say, yeah, I want I want a million dollars, and I go, okay, why do you want a million dollars? Well, because then I'll never struggle with money again. When we're creating what we want based on lack of what we don't have, it's only working against us. So we have to get that.

19:03 We have to get alignment to the vision as well, so you can see where it goes much deeper than just what do you want, you know, And so when we get that alignment down, like I have a vision right now to raise five million dollars, and the reason I'm doing that is because I want to launch my institute to certify other coaches in the SMT program, so it has a greater footprint and reach than what I can have myself. But also even beyond when I'm gone from this place, it'll continue on. So it's like my legacy and I'm really excited about. So that's a different thing than saying I want a million dollars because I don't want to run out of money. And what I've seen multiple times is people who come from that that are able to gather that million dollars or whatever the number is, they automatically switch to being afraid of losing it. Then, so the programming stays regardless of the situation or circumstances, so you know whether you're getting it or whether you're afraid to lose it. The programming stays right in there, afraid of lack well.

20:06 And it's and it's interesting, you know, being here in Thailand and I've studied a lot about Buddhism being here one under fourth and you know, he talks so much about suffering, and part of his entire goal is to help people to get to the point where they are not suffering. And it doesn't mean that they aren't experiencing events in their life that would cause other people to experience quote suffering, but they have reached a point where when those events happen, it's just like it's not going to affect the standpoint and they feel like they're suffering. I think you've hit it on the head that you know, fear has such a big role in that talk a little bit about fear and what that does. Well, yeah, fear, I mean really the fear is getting outside of our comfort zone, which is challenging those those that programming is what it is, you know, and as we go forward and such and we're stepping out is fear is a huge roadblock. The way we address it within the SMT method is we start to understand how fear is so far side to side we can't get around it, and it's so tall we can never get over it. But most of the time, when we go through it, it's paper thin. And I proved that over and over and over, even with my life. I ran off of a two thousand foot mountaintop with me and a hang glider because I thought I was afraid of heights, and now I do that.

21:24 You know. I've taken seven launches so far on the way to my fifteen to be fully certified. And it's when we go through the fear. But I'll tell you when I did that. And I had three steps and I was in the air with no rumblow me yeah, And I took the first step and everything in my heart. I could feel my heart beating and my head's going, don't do it, don't do it. And I took the second step and it got stronger. And I think it was in the second step I don't even recall, but I could feel my heart beating in my throat and I'm just hearing this yelling in my head, don't do it, don't do it. But the moment my feet left the ground, it was ask to see amaze. I felt like I was soaring, you know, But so often that fear will stop us from getting to that point. And so what I love to do is help people move beyond that point, you know. So we do that through managing the fear, because we can never get rid of it. Anytime we do something new, there's going to be fear. But we can use fear and instead of it using us. And so we start shifting that side of the well.

22:24 And you talk about tools. And what I find interesting is I interview different people. You know that I'm not. I don't know that you have a book. I haven't seen you have a book. Maybe you do, but. You sight behind me that oh this side that life's lessons right there. Okay, Hi, you have a book. Okay, great, so I have a few of them. What I find interesting is a lot of times people will go, well, you know, I'm trying to promote my book, trying to do this, trying to do that, so they won't get into it, and I'm just a hard shell. I want to know how what are the tools you're using? You know, Because what I have found is if someone in the audience will listen and understand the tools, can they apply it to themselves without help? Usually not, unless they're really unique, they really need a coach, They need some help. And so forth. But to be able to understand what the tools are oftentimes gives them that sense of Okay, that makes sense for me. Now I want to learn more about it. So I'm going to ask you what are some of those tools that you use in the SMT methodology to help people to really move from that subconscious control to conscious living.

23:36 Great question. I love that conscious living. I love that. That was great, doctor Doug. I am. You know, there's so much with it, but a lot of it is is really all of the tools are geared towards identifying the limiting belief, identifying the limiting program, and then tools to shift that, whether it's perceumption shifting, whatever it is that we use. We for a lot to the vision throughout the time I work with my clients, because that's the excitement, that's the carrit right And as we start opening up some of that, then we get more excited and we dive deeper into it and such. So that's a big part of it. But it's really about shifting that programming. It's really about taking different actions like consciously choosing. You know, Wallace Wild, I love his quote.

24:22 He says, if you're not consciously choosing to be rich, excellent, and healthy. Then you're subconsciously choosing to be poor, mediocre, and unhealthy. And that's really a lot of what it is. It's to shift from living in this subconscious place to living more consciously. Exactly what you. Said, Well, you know, as I hear what you're saying, one of the things that comes to my mind is, you know, I've studied a lot of this, and I've kind of tapped onto meditation and so forth. And I know personally as well as talking to others, some people while they haven't effect but for a lot of us that meditation and that affirmation. I do walking meditation, and.

25:03 There's there's okay, I've done that before. Yeah, there's a lot of reasons because there's the whole sematic part of the body movement. And you know, as I've studied, you know, using the binarial beats when I'm listening to the music as I'm walking and trying to get everything from right rand left ering connected up there and so on and so forth. But I know a lot of times in meditation it takes a lot of time to move from one to another and so on and so forth. When when I hear about the Buddhists, you know, the guys that have become monks, and they are meditating for hours and days and months in order to try to achieve. And what I'm hearing you telling me is, Doug, you could do that really quickly with my method. And I want to know how what what on earth are you doing to move so quickly versus those of us that are just meditating and really working trying to get that accomplished, and sometimes it takes monthsex Here's what's the difference.

26:02 You know what. One of the things that takes so much longer is You're right. You could buy books on this stuff. You can buy books on meditation, you can buy books on mindset shifting, you. Know, books on it. So but for me, it I bought all those books. I did the experience, you know, made you know, experimented with the book and brought you know, and and I couldn't get to change until I found somebody else to help me because I didn't even recognize my programming where they could help point that out to me. That's one of the things that really expedites it over doing it one. I mean, I told you it took me three decades to truly bring about the changes that I've experienced in my life and such. And if you know, growing up like I grew up, even the fact that you and I being here talking to like right now, doctor Doug, it's unrealistic. It's unrealistic. This kid, growing up the way I grew up would would build a career and up to a vice president of sales and help companies and bankruptcy back you know, profitability and and and and even now be doing what I'm doing now and have such an impact on so many people's lives and such.

27:05 It's unrealistic for that to happen. But what I did when I opened the door to let somebody else assist me, you know, iron sharpens iron. Right, they could help me in ways I could not see of my own a cord, you know, when I had that insight, when I was in my early twenties about you know, if something came easy to me, I die I didn't work hard enough and deserve it. That felt like the right way to be to me, with all of my being, It felt like the right way to be. But I just knew something wasn't right because it related so much to my parents and how they lived and so going forward in that when I found somebody to start helping me, I like see that, it was like a light bulb came on and the quicker the light bulb comes on, the quicker you can bring about.

27:48 That change well, And I think that's so important, Stan, I mean those of us that have been on this journey for a while. I mean, I can't tell you how many coaches I've hired to help me in different areas, you know, to try to get in and as I you know, and I don't officially any more work along that line, but I have friends who occasionally will call me or I'll be talking to them and they're saying, oh, man, I'm struggling with this, and well have you thought about this? Or you know what, here's a podcast you might want to listen to, And all of a sudden it's like wow, in fact, I had, you know, I don't know how many times, of course, you get in a little bit differently because you've got people working with you, paying with you, and then they come back and say wow. But I think a lot of times people who are doing things to try to make a difference in people's lives never get the feedback of what it did. And I remember a couple of months ago I had met an individual here in Thailand and they were helping me with the bees and so forth, and they spoke English a little bit better than most, and that's why they ended up coming to the desk and helping me. And I just mentioned said, well, you know what, I have a podcast.

28:54 Oh I love to listen, and so they started listening. And I got a message last month that just touched my heart because, like, you know what, you have made a different in my life. I'm a change individual based on your podcasts and then obviously you know, talking to you once, same questions and you offering advice, and so often we don't hear that. And I think for a lot of people who are in a very subtle way trying to make a difference in people's lives, they never get the feedback that says, you know what, that smile that you gave me last week made the difference, or you know here I was ready through something horrible and just what you did or just how you were changed in my life.

29:40 You know, I really love that I get to live this life doing this. I love everything I had to go through to get me to this point. And I'll tell you, doctor Doug whan i'm talking to a client or I hear from her, they'll call me up out of the blue, yon and say, oh my god, this just happened. And they have a brain, it'll put me into yours. I'm so fulfilled and overjoy It's seeing what people can achieve, you know, it's part of the process and stuff and seeing that happen. I absolutely love that. And one of the things, you know, we talked about the generics and things like that. One of the things is I have a twenty eight year old son. He doesn't have to go until he's, you know, in his forties to do something. I'm seeing him now blossoming, and he has been over the last few years really blossoming with the tools and the things that I do, just from our conversations and such. And so it's impact that, you know, the generation thing going forward as well. I didn't set out to do that. I set out to fix me because I felt broken. I felt like I was undeserving on you know, all that stuff. And in exchange, I get to have this impact on as many you know, hundreds of people have gotten to work with over the past decade, my own son, people I meet, you know, it's just amazing, it's just absolutely amazing.

30:50 Well, and you use the word suffering, you know, and how often do we become a victim of suffering? You know? I look at this concept to be either we are a victim of or we are in control over and and so often people look at the suffering and become victimized by it. But just as you said, if we approach the suffering because we all go through it, I mean, we all have things in our lives that we could look at as suffering as we didn't deserve that and so forth. But as you said, you took all of that and you changed the direction of your thought process on that to where it became a lesson, became a learning process, and because of your particular mindset and conscious you move that from suffering to success.

31:38 Yes, and here's the thing you were talking about with the months with suffering and such, and here's the bottom line to it. You're absolutely right. That's the other one that's really strong up there with fear is victimhood. Were the victim where we grew up, what's in our bank account, the job were in things like that where the relationship. It can even be you know, the marriage, things like that. We're victims. We see ourselves as victims of that. But do you know, really there's so much power and struggle because the purpose of struggle, the real gift and gold and struggle is it's really a matter of a question, I don't want this, and then right back to the vision, So what do I want? So struggle helps can help us to place our focus on what we do want.

32:24 That's the only purpose of it. And every time I've done that in my life, where I've been able to shift it over to what do I want done, all. Of a sudden, they start opening up more of that vision in my life. Well, but you talk about something that not a lot of people do, and I use the word curiosity. You know, you have that struggle and you go, Okay, I'm curious, why am I having this struggle? What do I need to change so that I don't continue to have this struggle? And I'm curious as to what I really want? And then all of a sudd develop that vision. How do you help people to develop curiosity to where they're able to look at the strung and go, okay, you know what I don't have to accept this. I don't have to be a victim of it. But with curiosity, I can teach me a lesson and then if I positively use that, it's going to make a difference.

33:11 Yeah, two party answers to that. First off, I can't help anybody who doesn't have an open mind. Yeah. When I talk to people and I tell them some of the experiences some of my you know that my clients have had and such, though, well that's unrealistic and for them it will always be unrealistic to have take leaps like that. So I can't do anything for them. So it's people have to somebody's. Got to have an open mind in order to achieve any change if they're locked into knowing what they know. Even though I have a lot of people come to me and we'll start talking and they'll go, I know, I know, and I know I know, and I go, Okay, that's great, all the stuff you know. But if you're stuck with that, that's as far as you're ever going to go. If you can look at what can I add to and be in search of what can I add to what I already know, that's how you start opening up that door. So there's that side of it and then there's the The other side of it is truly about what the dynamic vision think about having something that you read and it just excites the heck out of you that you can you start seeing yourself living that life.

34:12 It's describing you certain talking about the feelings and you put out of those feelings and you're experiencing that feeling even before it happens and stuff. That excitement leads to quicker results. Those quick results. The first win is you win over people because once they experience something really good like that, they want to do it again. They want to go further, they want to go bigger, they want that's a human condition. So just getting the first win like that opens up that avenue, and typically the vision is what opens that up. That's why it's so crucial and why the SMT method is designed to come out of the gate developing that vigon. So do you have some really dynamic stories that you can share with the audience of changes that have taken place within individual's lives.

34:54 Yeah, I have a bunch of them. I'll share one of them and it'll take a few minutes, but I'll share one. Of them Okay, good. So gentleman probably about six seven years ago now, and when I met him, listening to him just talking, I thought, man, I'm gonna need a dictionary to keep up with this guy because like his vocabulary and stuff. But then as we talked further, I was like, man, this guy is he had a job, he was at the bottom of the company and stuff like that, in feared of losing his job and the anxiety of economy and all that stuff. He was married and his wife wore the pants in the family, you know, she dictated what they were gonna do, when they were gonna do, how they were gonna do it, and everything else and stuff, and he was just very passive with that. He had two children that he wasn't really close with and didn't have a relationship. They were just like give me money, dad type of kid, you know, relationship.

35:40 And I didn't find out till later. The guy played he was a musician, and so we're talking and right away it's like, man, there's the vocabulary. He just kind of caught something. So we started developing the vision. We got through that and the third week it came out when this gentleman was in the I think it was the fourth grade. He went to a. Brand new school, knew nobody, so he had to do assessment testing before, you know, before the school year started. So the first day of school, the bell rings, everybody goes in. He goes to the principal's office. Principal hands him the sheet of paper. He goes, man, look at your results. You're in the eighth grade reading year in college mathematics, and just his whole you know, across the board. He was like, and so he said, man, I'm really proud to have you here. And so he said, take this and go to class so and so.

36:20 And give it to your teacher. And so he walked down. Now he's got to interrupt the whole class that's already started on the first day of school. Not knowing anybody, he walks in, hands it to the teacher and she looks at it and she goes, oh, look at so and so. He's in eighth grade reading, he's in college math. And berades this child in front of the whole classroom and and she ends up with, I guess you should be teaching this class and then sends him to a seat. He spent that entire year being bullied, picked on and teased, and within that little boy's mind, he made a promise he would never let anybody see him that side of him again. He was in elementary school. I met him, he was fifty one or fifty two years old, and he had maintained that promise all those years of that programming.

37:04 And so as we started noting that, we started, you know, once we started identifying it, we could shift it, do perception shifting on some other tools that st method utilizes to start bringing about that other site, start building a specific vision about that side and using you know, and how like that celebrated his intelligence and things like that. And as we did that, the guy called me three times over a week and a half outside of our session to tell me about these breakthroughs he was having and things like that, you know, with his children. And the one I'll never forget. He called me on a Thursday night and he said, Joseph, you're not going to believe this. I just had the call share and I go, okay, tell me, tell me, tell me. And so he said that he and his wife were talking and they were talking about the plans for the weekend, and she said, we're going to do this Friday, you know, and kind of went through the lineup and stuff, and he goes, I don't want to do it like that, and he said that was the first time that he really stood up to her. And she turned and looked at him.

37:57 And what it was is he wanted to add something family. I'm into the whole thing. That wasn't you know in there, and he said. She turned and looked at him and said that was so hot. Now that's within a few weeks of working with this gentleman. I have another gentleman. He hired me as a business coach. And so this guy ended up flourishing in all areas of life, with his wife, with his children, even his business. He ended up within six months, he ended up growing in the business, and he ended up being when they hired somebody, knew he would train that person to get them that quick start that he experienced and stuff. So I have another gentleman that hired me as as a business coach. And he hired me his team wasn't performing.

38:39 He didn't want to have a coach come in and work with them, so he was going to get coaching and then bring it to his team. Okay, so we go through coaching. The fourth week we're working. Together, I think it was a fourth week it came out that he had a thirty seven year marriage and he and his wife just coexisted. The kids were grown and gone and stuff, and they lived in the same house as it they they shopped differently, they cooked differently. That you know, they had no interaction with each. Other in all. The sixth week he was working with me, he was in a live event I did, and so I said, hey, would you mind coming doing a testimonial, you know? And he goes, no, not at all. So at the time I called him up and he shared just what I just told you. And I said, okay, so now it's been three more weeks, four more weeks, whatever, what's your life like today? And he said, my wife and I are like we're honeymoons again. We snuggle up and watch movies, we date, we eat together, we cook together, we you know, activities and things like that. And I said, okay, so we know that you've been working with me this time, what's your wife been doing? And Doctor Dougy goes, she hasn't been doing nothing.

39:40 You know. And I think that that's so key that we don't realize that, in fact, I had interviewed someone else that had talked about relationships and the fact that if I can change myself more often than not that other person around without ever going through the process. Just because of the effect we have it, we're we're getting close to the end here, by the way, Yes, okay, you know these conversations go so great and it's like, oh, we could go on for hours and I'm not allowed to do that. Life time flies, I tell you. So as we come to a close, what would be a message that you'd like to share with the audience that could get them to really start thinking about what they.

40:22 If you're in struggle where you have upsets and things aren't the way you want them to be, it's not your fault. We're all designed to want to experience our desires in our life and it's meant to be that way. But there's some programming covering that up for you, and you can go about it yourself and spend a lot of time doing it and figuring it out and everything else, or you can get a hold of somebody me or somebody like me that has a program that's tailored to your uniqueness and go through it. Quicker and get to that other side and stop wasting life being stuck. Amen. Amen? And so how do people find you? If you know, listen to this, they go, Okay, I want to talk to Jilly about what I'm going How do they find you?

41:02 The easiest way to do it is go to coach with Joey dot com and schedule a fifteen minute call. It's not a sales pitch, it's not. All I want to do is like from this. If you're calling from this podcast and you're at a place of struggle, or you're in a place of not knowing what that is, or you feel like you're getting stuck in it, just call me. I want to help however I can. So if I can help you get over that and move forward, and then you know, we go from there. If it covers you and you're good to go from there, that's great. And you know, if it's something the program and stuff makes sense, that's a whole nother conversation. But it's really just to be of service. Okay, Is there is there one book that you'd like to do out and you said might really make a difference. Yeah, right behind me is a book that Blue Books.

41:45 It's life's lessons And it's really all about when I stopped wanting to be a victim and I started. You hear a lot about it now, you didn't when I wrote the book. But you know, life happens. Life doesn't happen to us, it happens for us. And so once I could put the judge in the side of things happening or it's not good or bad, right or wrong, and I could start looking at those events to what was it teaching me? Is when I started learning my life's lessons that then would later on launch me into the life I live today. No, I love it. Well, Joey, thanks, this has been incredible. This is a delight doctor Doug. Absolutely, I really appreciate it. And folks, hey, thanks for listening. I hope this is making a difference for you. And get a hold of Joey, go to that website and take a look at what's going on, because I think for a lot of you this could really make a difference in your life. So anyway, this is doctor Doug saying, I'm a stay and I'm a say