Divine Dialogue

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0:44 Denzel Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to do the same. Seph Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. Hey, all right, I'm really excited. This is going to be a fascinating conversation about some things that a lot of people really either don't talk about, they're a little nervous about talking about, or they may not really understand or understand how they can apply what we're going to chat about. That may not be directly within their belief system. How we can convert that to a belief system that works for them. I'd love for you to share with the audience who you are and what is the journey you took to get.

1:27 To this point. Thank you well. My name is Seth Deetln and I call myself a human potential activator. And what I do is I communicate telepathically with the angels. I have done so for over twenty years. I'm a certified hypnotherapist and energy healer, and I combine all of those gifts and the downloads and the teachings that I've received from the angels over twenty plus years to direct people into a layer of self empowerment that we're all meant to access. It's actually our life purpose. It's not to get rich, it's not to get a Ferrari. It's here for self discovery, to discover how powerful we are. So I help people learn how to communicate with their angels, with their loved ones who have passed away. Visit the Acacia records. Understand that I help people learn how to activate their intuition, and I guide people through courses and one on one sessions in a way where they find the power that they didn't know that they had to create, the reality that they want to create, or the healing that they'd like to create.

2:39 And yes, yeah, what's the story behind that? You said, there's been many years? Yea, what is the story behind that? Yeah? How does one person go from a seemingly normal life to all of a sudden being hit on the head by the angels? Right, So that's a good one. About a little over twenty years ago, I was just doing my thing. I was a very successful realtor in Orange County, California and southern California, and I had a day where everything seemed to collapse. But not only that, I was in a one sided relationship. And during that sort of collapse, I had like four escrows get canceled in one day. And of course, when you achieve success at something like that, you always have to keep going.

3:24 It's like a treadmill. And I had been supporting another person who was mostly just partying and it had become extremely one sided, and I decided that it was time to actually ask for some mutuality in the relationships. So on the same day that I had all these escros fall apart and basically a big collapse in my business. Also ended up breaking up with somebody without realizing that was happening too, just by asking for some mutuality. So it was a pretty shockingly disappointing day, so much so that it took me into some pretty serious triggers and I had what you could maybe consider a panic attack.

4:06 And while I was trying to wrestle with the idea of going to sleep, knowing that I wouldn't I after abandoning religion, I decided to have a little chat, maybe do some negotiating with whoever it is that's upstairs that has some influence over our reality. And I was in the process of asking if I could leave, like I wouldn't commit suicide or something like that. And I can certainly understand people who can have a lot of setbacks, and that could be tempting because many of us have been there where we want to leave. But I did want to leave, and so I basically told whoever that is that, you say, you'll give us anything we asked for, and right now I just want to go to sleep and not wake up, just go back to wherever we came from. Now. When I realized that was not going to be granted. I gave God a calenter offer, like any good realtor would do, and I said, you know what, that's fine. I know you're not going to do this.

5:04 Then I want my angels. You say, I've got these guides, they're obviously not doing a very good job. I want to talk to them. I want to hear from them. I want to be able to get guided by them. If they're here to guide me, they can't guide me if I can't hear from them. Certainly you're asking me to believe that they exist, and maybe I can talk to them, but I don't know how to hear from them or to be guided from them. And the minute I asked that, I felt like something had overcome me with peace, a piece that I couldn't explain, a heavenly piece, a blissful piece, and nothing external had shifted. And I felt the presence of beings in my room, and I heard something speak to me through my knowing say, Seth, everything is not just going to be okay. It's going to be better than okay. And to add to the validation of the possibility that maybe they were angelic beings in the room with me, my dog and cat jumped up on the bed and they were scanning the room because they could detect the presence of something in the room.

6:05 But I went to sleep peacefully, which I couldn't explain why I was able to do that. And the very next day I woke up trying to decide whether that was a figment of my imagination, where if I had really actually had an opportunity to hear from and be surrounded by the angels. Well, while I was wondering that, I felt something like buzz by my ear and I was alerted to it, and I heard hello, and I said hello. So what had happened is I had opened up this sort of ability to be able to hear them speak to me in second person. So they were speaking to me I could be very clear that those weren't my thoughts. There wasn't something I was thinking. So ultimately, on that second day that I woke up, the angels shared with me or this voice said that the events that had surfaced that day were a catalyst to get me to call on them because it was my destiny in this lifetime to work with them. They then proceeded to give me this impression that the world would change.

7:10 They called it the return of Heaven on Earth, and we often call that the coming of the New Earth. It's the same thing, but it's a realization that the false constructs that exist here they told me would collapse. They told me they don't serve humanity, they actually do the opposite, which I was flabberg acid, as like, what do you mean? And basically they revealed that everything that we accepted to be a structure that supported humanity did anything but and that these structures would collapse and we would return back to a state of existence that would be like Heaven on Earth. We'd have access to our manifesting gifts, we would access energy from another source that doesn't run those hideous power lines through nature. And they gave me a very detailed description of what would happen in our lifetime and where we would go. And so I had fun with the enamoring connection. Things that were very magical and miraculous started happening, and they were constantly guiding me through communication to do things, and every time I would do those things, something miraculous would happen. So sort of building on that trust and relationship with them.

8:26 So initially it was building on the trust of the authenticity of what they had to say. So a couple of good examples of that is that one day they just told me to drive to Disneyland, which wasn't that far from my house, and I drove up the five freeway, got off on Harbor Boulevard, and there was a woman and her two little boys that were stranded off the side of the off ramp, and I was able to put them in the car, call a tow truck and get them safely off the off ramp, and call their husband and father and get them to say And it was interesting because they had been stranded there for a little while, but the angels knew they would be and sent me there to be helpful. Because afterward, the woman followed up with a phone call with me explaining that she was so grateful that I stopped to help and it was because of that stuff that she believed in angels again. And she said that specifically, believing that the angels had sent me.

9:22 Wow, And you know that that is so fascinating to me. And you know, as you talk about this and for the audience, as you can imagine, we've got a variety of people with different religious beliefs and so forth, as I'm listening to you, and I happen to have a Christian background, as I'm listening to you, I'm hearing you say things that absolutely correlate with what I believe personally. And I find that. You know, sometimes people listen about angels and talking. To angels and having that type of communication and they go, well, that's woo woo. And yet if they sit back and really think about what they're being taught, whatever background of faith they have, the reality is is we do have guardian angels. We have guardian angels. There is a God that will answer prayers for us. There are those senses of inspiration that can guide us sometimes for ourselves. But just as you explained, oftentimes for someone who is in need, that you have the ability to touch their lives, to lift them in some way that they need.

10:37 And to me, it's just so amazing. So as we go forward, you know, not everybody has the ability to tap into those angels. Well, let me put it this way, not everyone has yet to the ability to tap into those angels. In fact, I was meditating the other day and to be quite transparent, I thought, you know what, I would love to know who my angels are who my guardian angels are, and I happen to believe that oftentimes it's family that's passed on. But as I was alwaying that, yeah, as I was doing that, it didn't happen. And obviously I think it takes time, and I think that certain people have different gifts, such as yourself where you tap into it.

11:24 I have some friends that are also. Able to do that, and it just amazes me. So as you work with people, how do you help them to personally tap into that guidance? And for some it just might be inspiration and that's all it's ever going to be. But if they listen to it and learn to listen to it, that's going to make a difference. Or for others that actually have a more in depth experience, how do you help people. To achieve that? Yes, great questions. So, first of all, one of the things that the angel said to me in the beginning, as I was growing accustomed to having daily downloads and connection and communication with them, is that through this awakening process, as we return to heaven on Earth or the awakening of the New Earth, however you want to look at it, that we would all easily connect with all of the angelic realm, all of the celestial realm, and all of those realms in higher vibrations of consciousness, and they mentioned that we would all have that ability, that it would basically be mainstream. And ultimately, what they've taught me is that there is a frequency. And they use the analogy of the old radio, which FM actually stood for frequency modulation, that when you turn the dial and you turn into a certain frequency, that you're going to pick up a certain radio station that's broadcasting at a certain frequency, and

12:58 you go to another frequency, you're going to pick up an entirely different radio station that's broadcasting it an entirely different frequency. So the angels and the divine realm is broadcasting at a certain frequency, and when we tune into it, then we're connected. We can hear them. They're always hearing us. But then that's when they can hear us too. And I grew up Catholic, and I not only grew up Catholic, but I grew up with an Irish Catholic mother. And okay, good, you get it. So, yeah, the Irish Catholic definitely is heavy into the angels. But you know, there's so much wisdom and metaphysical knowing that's embedded in religion, that sometimes we're so busy being religious that we forget the metaphysical pieces, the spiritual pieces, the God activated pieces of those religions.

13:58 And I'm not saying that I said anction them or discount them, but I'm saying that those pieces are hidden and they're the underutilized pieces when we practiced a dogmatic and fear based approach to religion. So when I practice Catholicism, I experienced so much fear, which means that God is not present. God is the opposite of fear, and when God is in our presence, there can be no fear because there is only God and fear is an illusion. One of the aspects of the teachings of the Gospel, if you like that particular religion, is that the teachings are all about that, the fact that we are the host of the Holy Spirit. What does that mean? God resides in me? But now, does a construct like the Catholic Church really want all of humanity to remember that the consciousness that they are is so intricately woven to the consciousness of the Creator. No, because then they're empowered and they're not submissive anymore and decide to dump a lot of money in the collection basket. And where money gets connected to religion, I don't know. But it has nothing to do with Jesus and it has nothing to do with God. And you walk around the Vatican and go, wait a second, this does not add up. So we actually get to pick out the pieces that we know, right.

15:30 So the part of that is tuning into a certain frequency, and the frequency is love. When I teach people how to communicate with the angels, one of the first tricks because angels originally told me you're going to be teaching people how to speak to us, and I'd be like, oh, no, I'm not. I'm not going to tell a soul I do this, And then of course here I am having a godfest teaching people how to talk to them. But one of the first things that they actually they taught me as a key to hearing them communicate with us is they asked me to ask the students to make a list entitle it love. And then what they do is they ask us to just write down all the things that we love, the things that we love to do, things that we love about life. And it's beyond a gratitude list because we could write down. For example, one of my students wrote down on the list, I love to watercolor, and she said, oh my gosh, I want watercolored since I was five. So she went to the art store and got watercolors and started painting, and she realized how much she loved to do it. And the angels ask us to do the things we love, be in love with each other, be with love with each other, because when we tune into that frequency we can hear them.

16:50 They start sending miraculous intervention messages and clarity and guidance, and so they send us guidance and so many different ways. And I also want to speak to your request for the guidance. What's interesting? And I say this kind of tongue in cheek. But when I asked to have a tangible relationship with the angels where I could see them and sense, then, of course I was expecting something with Hollywood special effects where my window would get thrown open and a wing being would fly in. I did get the angels, but it was a little bit more subtle. And the other thing that happens that I always teach people when I teach angel communication is that the angel communication is subtle at first, and then once you learn to trust it, it gets stronger and stronger. It's like building a bond. And so the two initial pieces I like to teach is really to focus on love and the connection or the activation of the heart, which is where the Holy Spirit resides. And the second is is to just be aware, even at the most subtle you see a butterfly, maybe you see maybe you see a feather or a coin, or hear the right words in a song, trust that it comes from the angels, and then the way that they speak to you will expand and grow well.

18:19 And you know what I find really interesting, Seth is, and I think you hit on it so well, is that regardless of whatever religion, and it could be Islam, it could be Buddhism, it could be all of those things. Although although I find that Buddhism kind of does teach you to go in word and really do the meditation, and yet so often we're taught you have to do this, you have to do that, and as you said, we really don't get taught that we need to come inward, that we need to be able to understand that we are the ones that have that right to that inspiration, to that revelation, to that communication with the spirit, with the angels. And I think that there are two separate things and we can enjoy both of those, and yet we don't understand that. And so for people to be able to start to understand that number one, that spirit lies within you, that goodness lies within you, and as you access and as you said, as you access that sense of love. Now you know, I love the sophagio frequencies.

19:28 I do meditation, you know, and I'm doing the different frequencies. And you mentioned frequency. Do you do you do that whether you're praying, whether you're meditating, or if you do that at all. Do you find that for some people listening to a particular frequency seems to align with being able to access those inspirations and potentially those angels. Yes, and it goes way beyond that. It's wonderful if you want to turn on some sophagial frequencies once in a while, But if you're binge watching Netflix watching and consuming the news and any of the other things that lower your vibration like drugs and alcohol, then you're talking about a much bigger picture than listening to some wind chimes or some crystal bowls. Those are great, but doing that once a week and listening to mainstream music, which is basically hypnotizing us into repetition to keep us trapped in the mind and outside of the heart when we do certain things that have it. So it goes beyond what you said. And so in a way, you asked, what do I do to maintain such a high level of connection with the angels? And I can tell you I can't listen to and if it's on, it literally feels like nails on a blackboard. Don't realize how many

21:01 places you go and people play mainstream music very loud, and once you become entrained in a certain frequency, which is the connection to the divine and the connection to the angels, you walk into a store or a car showroom and they're playing hard rock, it's like someone is yelling in your ears because you don't have a tolerance for it anymore, because you've recalibrated yourself so over time. There's a lot of things that are normal, mainstream things that we all do that I don't do it at all anymore. I was an actor. I don't watch television and movies they're violent, and they're designed to take us into the fearful part of ourselves, and then we don't access our heart and a higher frequency where we're empowered to connect with the divine and create and manifest miracle ourselves.

22:00 Because this isn't just about talking to them. They don't come to teach us how to play the harp, and they don't come to make us more religious. They're actually here to teach us the very same things that if you trust that Jesus from the Gospel was who he said he was, he came here to teach us metaphysics and manifesting. He didn't come here to an establish an organization that would become one of the richest organizations in the world. He came here to teach us how to access the divine within, and that all gets lost. There's a focus on being a sinner instead of being the host of the Holy Spirit. But it makes it a lot easier to make people put money in the collection basket. Yeah.

22:43 So the thing about the frequency is there's so many different things I share with people when I coach them. This one thing because you know, years ago, when I was an actor, I had a trainer and I was on a certain diet and things like that to be as you know, fit and as I possibly could. And there's always that thing about the hidden sugars, the hidden things that would actually sabotage your goal to be as fit as possible. Well, the same thing exists in our world. There's so many things that are hidden saboteurs of us connecting with the power that we have to create our reality.

23:26 And honestly, I will tell you from experience, it is more fun to co create miracles with God than it is to binge watch a Netflix series. Well, and I laugh because I binge watched once in a while. But you know, I'm here in Thailand and it's so hot, there's not much more to do. So that brings up a question in my mind. You know, when when I was working, I was just busy, keeping busy, coming home, just needing to relax. Then I you don't turn on the TV. I admit it, our audience, I guarantee you most of them are heavily working every day and needing to find a way to relax. And so let me ask you this question for you, because I assume you work every day and you're doing all.

24:10 Of these different activities and so forth. When you find that down time that normally we might turn on music, we might turn on the TV, whatever that happens. To be, how what is it that you do. That makes that difference? And that's the first question. And before I forget it, because I want to say this is that you brought up this point, and I think it's so important to realize that. You know, so often we're taught that we need to do this, we need to do that. It really is focused on our actions. What we're not taught is that if we become, if we truly tap into that divine nature within ourselves and become that, then our actions, our behavior is a result of that, and that becomes more pure. It's just like when you said, you know, you have the sense that you're going to drive to Disneyland, and you followed that, and because you did, you help that lady and her child, and I think that's so important.

25:11 But getting back to this question of all right, you. Know I'm coming home from work, or I'm working every day it's just a nightmare, or I'm taking my kids to their baseball or their soccer, whatever it happens to be. How do people stop and instead of watching TV. What is it that they need to do. Is it some meditation, is it whatever it is? What do you recommend to people? Yeah, well I love this question. First of all, let me say this that was not to demonize anything such as television, but it is to make us aware, and much the same way I wouldn't demonize doritos. I know that if I want to be as fit as possible, I'm not going to eat them, right, And so the question that I would be answering by letting people know about all of the hidden sabage yours of frequency is just to let you know that they're they're I mean, we know that doritos with sabotage our diet, but there's a lot of things we don't know that with sabotage our diet. For example, we would put dressing salad, dressing on a salad which has hidden sugars in it. Right, So if we know about the places where sabotage is hidden, not because of a conspiracy or anything, but because it's just there. So I want to say that first about all of that, because I think it's important that when people want to switch into a higher frequency calibration, because what happens then is you become like Jesus, and that's who we are taught to be, like Buddha, like any of the avatars that ever walked fully connected. Now, the

26:45 difference between the sort of the mindless things or the things that drill into our mind and make us crave something to fill it like a Netflix series, is that when we recalibrate, we don't have that emptiness and downtime, and in fact, we enjoy it and we relish it because we discover an aspect of ourselves that is blissful and at peace. And when we discover that part of ourselves, we don't want to lose connectivity with it, and so we don't need to be filled with something to distract us from the feeling of emptiness, because we feel this fulfillment that comes from being in awareness instead of the mind. So, as a hypnotherapist, there are two hemispheres of the mind.

27:35 One the left side is for our pragmatic and linear activities, and the right side is our connection to spirituality, which has a whole different function. It operates on a nonlinear basis. Our ideal state is to have hemispheric synchronization, which is where both hemispheres are in synchronicity, and not to actually utilize the teachings of one religion, but I will say because of coming from Christianity Catholicism. In the Gospel, Jesus talks about the divine marriage. He's talking about the marrying of the left and right hemispheres, the unity between our human self and our divine self. And so what happens the more that we actually turn off these external sources, the more we have a deep relationship as a human with our divine self. Well, our divine self is always in joy, always in bliss, always in a beautiful state of gratitude and love. And it also is the part of us that co creates reality with us. So when we want to manifest something, we want to co create something, we have access to that and it's joyful. So there is this sort of integration and coming into a place where I don't want to say pure, find you your frequency, but coming to a place where we all get to

29:06 eventually when we're on this journey. It's a slow process, just like a diet, just like when we work out or whatever. It's a slow process. Pretty soon people for example that I coach, I don't say to them anything about the TV. But the come back to me and they'll say, I gave the TV away. I can't even turn it on because the minute it's on, I feel something that makes me not feel connected to my eye or self, so I can't watch it anymore. So what happens is when we start to shift, we start to naturally gravitate towards these things. But it's through desire. I'm not asking anyone to just turn off the radio and turn off the TV and put down the pipe or the bottle of wine or whatever. What happens is that we do it because there's a reward in having that connectivity to a higher aspect of our being. And it's not just well being, but it's what we can create.

29:57 Okay, So here's my question. I'm hearing what you're saying, you know what, I'm hearing what you're saying, And what do I do. I've got some free time. I normally would turn on the TV, and yet all of a sudden you're saying, well, don't do that. So what do I do? Is this where I might choose to go outside and take a walk and just kind of do that meditation, thought process or whatever. I happen to love classical music, and I will tell you that there is a frequency that I love. I listened to. My dad was a classical voice teacher, all right, So that's how I got involved in it. And I found the base baritone in fact Ildievo. I don't know if you're familiar with that group that sings, but they had a base baritone that when he came into it, it just was had such an effect of goodness for me.

30:56 And he's passed away now, so I don't know how well they're doing compared to when they had in there. But what what are the things that you tell people to do? What is it that they can do so that they don't feel like they're just being lazy? What is it that they can do instead of watching TV to be able to tap into that inner self, to tap into that inner spirit, to tap into that divine and feel like they are doing something of value. Right, So what I'm going to suggest here is that we don't substitute that with this or this with that. What ends up happening is that through that process of awakening, we end up discovering that we have new desires, and that could be anything like painting, playing an instrument, spending more time with people that we care about. I can't tell you how many people come in for sessions with me, and one of the biggest things that affects them is the isolation they feel because I don't spend enough time being connected in person with people that they love, having their hearts activated. So I can tell you what I do with the time that I don't watch TV. But it's sort of evolved because new desires emerged, So it wasn't like I just replaced one thing worth another. And when I say, I actually compare notes with a lot of people who are in a similar situation where they've taken this journey of deepening their awareness, whether connecting with the angels or extraterrestrials or higher levels of consciousness within

32:28 themselves or meditation. They all found the same thing is that gradually they gravitated towards activities that had a creative value and that filled them up as opposed to being passively filled with information. So the things that end up emerging in the evening time for me, I started learning to paint, do photography. This is when I call people and talk to them and connect with them or right after we're done with this podcast, I'm going to have dinner with a friend on Tuesday night. And that is what we do instead, And it's more fulfilling that there's so many other activities that we don't get to do that actually fill us up and fill us up with frequency, that we get to do those instead, but not because like when we're on a diet, we decide to substitute the sugary food for the vegetables where we just made a whole change this for that. But the minute that we do become more aware, our desire to do things shift.

33:28 So the desire to do things that lower our frequency ends up waning, and the desire to do things and to create opportunities for the things that we want to do. Most of the people that I know and work with, they call themselves that say light workers, or they understand that their mission in the body is to prepare this earth for the coming of Heaven on Earth or the coming of the New Earth, and so they're so involved in working with light and touching lives that that's what they do with their spare time because it's enjoyable to do and it fills us up. So there's so many different things that are so much more satiating that we can do with the time. And but it ultimately is much bigger than that, because it's a whole entire paradigm shift.

34:17 Well, and you know what's interesting to me is I always, you know, I'm very left brad in some ways, and I always, you know, ask the question er, look at, well, how do we know that we're on that right path? And I think you've hit on it that as we find ourselves doing those things. I happen to love photography too, and I happen to, you know, every every occasionally, as I'm meditating each day, I get a sense of a question, of an eternal type of question that I love to investigate and identify more. And write about. And I think that for people that understand that all of a sudden they're finding as you say, whether it's art, whether it's painting, whether it's sitting back enjoying good music, whether it's walking out in nature or whatever it happens to be, is they find themselves doing that more, then they can have that sense that they are on the right path to be able to move in that direction.

35:16 And I think you've hit on that point. So well, let me ask you this question because this comes up often as I'm interviewing people and we're talking about the environment that we surround ourselves with, you know, relationships. You know, you talked about your own personal relationship and how it all of a sudden became one sided. And how often do we find ourselves surrounded by people who are affectingness the same way that, as you say, TV can affect us. And how do we gain the. Courage to move away from that and start to surround ourselves with people of a higher frequency. What's been your experience with that?

35:58 So, you know, I've experienced an extreme paradigm shift about the way that I view relationships just from my conversations with the angels. So the first piece of this that they made me aware of is that we're all the same being, but in a different body. Hence that term, you know in the gospel that we are the host of the Holy Spirit, And what that means is that the consciousness that animates each of us is part of a unity of what we would call God. And in that way, each person that comes in comes in because there are lessons, because there are soul agreements, and because there are things that we have to teach and the things that we have to learn from each other. We made agreements to be that kind of activator for each other.

36:45 In some ways, we've activated each other by bringing people into a high frequency of our art space, and in some cases we've come in to activate each other by bringing a catalystic experience of challenge. Like the person who gave me the angels, we had a sol agreement to have that relationship because I wouldn't have called on the angels without them. Now, this certainly isn't encouragement for sticking around in relationships that are abusive or anything even worse than that. But what this does do is it actually creates a different context in paradigm by which we see relationships. Because I've seen, for example, like the memes that say you know something to the effect of I'm high frequency, get away from me low frequency, And the minute we go into ego and consider ourselves better than someone else or different than someone else, we're not in high frequency, right, And so that's a check on that whole statement. But what happens is that we get to ask, and that's what's great about communicating with the angels, and that's what they come here for as our guides. They're not just guiding us to find our passports when they lose them when we lose them, or our car keys, or make sure that we leave a minute later so we don't get into a car accident or a ten car pile up on the four or five freeway. They come in as a way of actually empowering us. So we get to say, okay, angels, what is this situation teaching me?

38:14 Because the minute that we get the lesson, one of two things will occur. The dynamic will shift. That happens a lot, it's called a healing. Or the other thing that will happen is that we'll be out of resonance and that person will go their way and we'll go ours, and we will have given each other the lesson that we agree to before we came here. So there's many different ways that people teach us. And when the angels say teach us, they don't mean reveal to us something that we don't know, because we come from a space where we are all knowing as souls. So when we learn something here, we're tapping into something that we already know from the level of our infinite self and so in order to actually download that piece of our no knowing, we have to have certain experiences, and some of them have to really shake us up, you know, not that I watch the news, but it does filter down to me.

39:10 If anyone's looked around and noticed what kind of shape the world is in, it's in a shape of being activated. And that's the way that you can see, especially to talk to the angels, and they prepared me for what we're experiencing right now, so I'm kind of like, okay, right now, we're on track from what they told me. Right So, people like for example, will ask me my reaction, you know, to maybe an event or this event or that event, and I'll be like, no, it's exactly what the angel said was going to happen. And it's all leading us back to a return to our authentic selves and a whole different way of life that's in alignment with the power we have. But the thing about the relationships is they're the best teaching tools that we have.

39:55 They're the best tools for activating us. We are that for each other, and sometimes people are that way for us. I've learned sometimes where I unintentionally activated people who were triggered by something that I did that I did not do intentionally, and my heart would never let me do the thing that they experienced me doing, and yet they did, and that was the lesson they are supposed to have. And sometimes it's an interesting revelation to realize that you're as much of a catalyst for other people as they can be for you to activate you in that way, because none of us have halos, and in that particular sense, when we're in our human bodies, we're still embodying a divine form, so we are actually in alignment with that.

40:41 But a lot of the things that come up that are difficult dynamics, they're actually intended to activate us on higher levels, not because of what they happen on the surface level or what we see. And we can call on our angels to actually help us when relationships do get difficult, And in fact, a lot of the work that I do with people the way that they end up finding me as they find themselves having a relationship dynamic that causes them pain and triggering, so they have no other way to get that, so innately they're trying to go back to a higher level of themselves to access the information that they need, and that's usually what we do and why they can be very useful to us.

41:25 And hopefully that gives you an idea of how to filter out what we see when we see people around us, because once we actually shift that, another dynamic of our relationships with other people will shift as well. Yes, and I think you've hit it on the head. Which I really appreciate is you know, as we become, as we seek that, you know, as we get into that inner spirituality and alignment with that, and we start to really feel that love. Yes, as people approach, as people say things, we can understand that that's what they're going through without personally being affected by that. And I think that's so important. So we could go on for hours, but time is limited for us now, So as we close, STEPH, what I'd like you to do is just share with the audience kind of a final message that you want them to remember from this podcast.

42:18 Yes, I want you to remember that life for you is only upgrading you. There's no other direction that you are going. And whether you choose to access angels or your higher self through meditation, whatever it is, just note that the difficulty that you're experiencing right now is actually a stepping stone in the direction of your empowerment. Right now, we live in a highly activated world where all of us are being collectively and individually upgraded and empowered. And the minute that you shift into seeing that, things will happen miraculously for you. And of course I wish all of the listeners in the audience many blessings of abundance.

43:03 Oh, thank you so much. And how do people find you, sep How do they if they want to reach out to you, how do they find you? Let's talk Toomanngels dot com. It's talk to t Omanngels dot com. All right, wonderful, Hey, thank you so much for being on the show. This has been a fascinating conversation and I appreciate the insights that you have and hopefully maybe we can get on again and talk about some more things. That's always fun. Thank you so much for having me you. Bet, and folks say thanks for listening. Really hope that this has made a difference for you and that you can really contemplate some of the things that Seph has shared with us today. And meanwhile, hope you'll join us again soon. So this is doctor Doug saying, no mis stay not mis day,