Time to Remove Those Emotional Blocks

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1:00 I'm really grateful. Well, and you know, I'm so excited about Since I moved to Thailand a few months ago and I'm here for about six months, I have found that there's such an interest that has come about about self healing and different ways in which that's occurring outside of the standard medical community. And so I'm really excited about this discussion that we're going to have today because you have such an interesting background and your approaching things in so many different ways. I'd love for you to share the audience how did this all come about, and what have been your personal experiences, and then we'll kind of move forward from there. Sure, yeah, I guess the starting point was I was thick for seven years. I was bold I would be in a wheelchair. There was no hope of me healing, diagnosed with four different diseases, and what the traditional medical route. Then tried to go to the alternative as to what I knew then, which was acupuncture and chiropractor and everything would make me feel better for a little while, but nothing would make me heal.

2:08 And I didn't think healing was possible. The doctor said it was not. There are a couple of things that led to me really knowing I could. You know, I hadn't tried this approach before of just changing my mind, mindfulness and changing my energy. And for three weeks I focused on my thoughts how I was speaking to my folk, which was atrocious. Even though I was thick, I was still beating myself up and within three weeks all the pain was gone and I was healed. And it was a little while before I went back to doctors because I was, yeah, I was, I guess a little angry, you know in my way that hey, how come no one told me I could do this? And it took me.

2:53 I went off all medications. It took me about a year to go back to my hematologist to get permission to go off the blood I was on. But even he after a year, like when I went back, he said, with the way my mind was now, it was more dangerous to be on them to go off of them, and gave me his blessing. And these were diseases that I'm assuming a lot of people experience. And as you were saying, the doctors who were saying there's no cure, yeah, it's managing your pain. It's physical therapy. It's a lot of pain killers. And you know, one of five romyalgia was, one was Eller's down low syndrome, one was chronic mono, and then there was a genetic blood disorder factor five Liiede in which when they told me they told me, I was like, I think, like five hundred times more likely to get a blood clot. Within a month of them telling me that, I manifested a blood clot and went in my leg and wound up in the hospital for four days five days. So it really is about that power of the mind. I mean that should have been a tip off into me. They just told me about that. Here I am in the hospital manifest saying something. So after that, I just wanted to kind of shout from the rooftops, hey, we can heal ourselves. And really knew that it was important for me to keep in that, keep studying, to keep learning more so that I could help more people. And I had graduated from Penn State with a degree in psychology. I knew I always wanted to help people, so it really felt like a natural, natural thing to start writing about different modalities of healing.

4:28 I've always loved writing. I started a blog, and the more I learned, the more it kind of led me on my journey. I learned about energy healing, I got licensed and reconnective healing that came to me in a synchronistic way. Learned about the Acoshac records. I felt like that had a shift for me. So then I wanted to learn that so as I went on my path. It was just about the things that really touched me. I wanted to learn more. I wanted to use that tool to help other people. So probably been licensed in over fifteen healing modalities. In the last seventeen years. Studied shamanism after my mom passed. That was another big healing for me because she was my biggest fan and you know, one of my closest, my closest loved one. So studied shamanism after that. It's really been about studying the mind, body connection and energy and how it can change our energy to create the life that we want. I attracted the love of my life to me, We attracted our home, you know, really changing our energy to focus on what we want and that self love and self worth and knowing we deserve that rather than focusing on how horrible everything is, which is kind of the human way. Well, and you know, I'd love love for you to define mindfulness for the audience if you could. What do you what do you mean by mindfulness? I mean by being conscious about what you're saying and doing in every moment, because so many times we're reacting, and we're reacting from our past. Story are past hurts. We go into

6:01 a room where like, oh, that person's a jerk, I'm going to put my guard up, you know, and I'm going to be like, you know, just responding, or we're we just get in these routines where we're not really paying attention. Our mind could even be somewhere else. We're responding. But if you're mindful, you are doing things consciously, You're like, I'm going to choose to say this, I'm going to choose to do this in this moment. I'm one hundred percent present in what I'm doing, especially now with following then all the all the distractions to be one hundred percent present and what you're doing well. And you know what, I find fascinating. And there's actually now a couple of individuals, one in particular, that's studying this mindfulness and the healing that can come through meditation and mindfulness and so forth. They're showing it clinically medically that they're seeing the results of that from the studies of the body, studies of the blood and so on and so forth. So I think for people it's fascinating. This used to be kind of whoo ooh, you know, the type of thing that people go, you know, no way. And now there's actually medical studies that are showing the value of doing the things that you were talking about. So let's let's talk a little bit about from your experience, how does how do these subconscious triggers let's just call them those that they and when we say subconscious, as you said, they may not even know that they're there. And yet,

7:34 you know, one of the things I wrote a while ago on a presentation was, you know, look at your life and see what you're experiencing. Are you happy with it? Because if you're not, you've got to go back to that subconscious level and find out what are those belief systems that are causing the behavior, that are causing the results. And for people to understand that they actually have control of their lives, that they have control and whether whether they're religious or not. If they're religious, then obviously that goes into faith and outside help and so forth, power greater powers. But whatever it happens to be, their question is how what are some of the things that occur when we're not dealing with those triggers, those subconscious beliefs that are so deep that we don't even realize it. And yet we're experiencing life in a way that we don't like it. Yeah, well, there's a lot of ways that can manifest. That can manifest physically, mentally, emotionally. I love the Eastern the study of the chakra system, the energy system, because it informs what part of your body, you know. So say we had horrible messages from our parents, you know, that would kind of settle into that root chakra, you know, and we might have leg issues, we might have trouble feeling safe on this planet. Emotionally, I love going to

9:05 that, but that's my kind of go to because I call that the inner diagnostic system. But if we have these energies, energy is not flowing correctly, it's not being informed correctly, so that there are blockages. Say we've heard from a past partner or a parent or a loved one, we're not worthy, we're not good enough, we're not smart. We are running that in the background, and you know, even if we do something amid step, we might say, oh, I'm so dumb, you know, and we don't recognize the power that that has because are you counterbalancing that, are you spending time saying, you know what, I really love myself I'm doing a pretty good job, like most people are not doing that. And we know the effects if we were saying only negative things to a child, if we were saying only negative things to an animal, a pet, what effect they would have on them. But we really don't assess ourselves, like how are we speaking to ourselves in our unconscious moments when we're just going about our day. What scriptory running, you know, becoming mindful. There was a quote from The Secret Movie that really helped me in changing my thoughts was like, we're ninety we're ninety nine point nine percent new every like eleven months.

10:16 So where we're spending our energy, putting our focus informs those cells. So if we're saying I know and I was sick, that pain was horrible, I was focusing on my legs and saying, I'm so I'm so thick, I'm in so much pain, I'm so sad my legs can't function. And that really wasn't giving my legs any possibility of healing. Whereas what I started to work on my healing, I was putting my hands on my legs and thanking them for the years that I danced and putting my hands on like my little finger and being like, wow, there's healthy cells he or there's healthy cells in my body. Like really, when we get mindful and focus on what we want, we could start switching things pretty quickly. So I was talking about chakras. You know, I guarantee you that the audience is listening to this. Some may be familiar with chakras, some may not be.

11:07 So you talk about the root chakra, would you mind kind of explaining your understanding of the chakras and what some of the symptomology may be being affected for people based on which chakra may be blocked or maybe having struggles and so forth. Absolutely, I love this stuff. Yeah, and go ahead and start with the root chakra. Start with the root shows Oh yeah, I mean, and there are the colors of the rainbow, we have hundreds of them, but there are seven main chakras that we hear about all the time, and the root one, as the first one, is really the messages we've gotten here on Earth, like what has our community said during this time?

11:48 It might be a little hard feeling safe walking on this planet. So it's red at the base of the fine Okay, it's an energy center, so it's like a wheel of energy that is, you know, circuit, and it can become unbalanced. And when it's some balance, our body doesn't punish us. It's really like telling us, hey, I'm not balance. Like so, if you know about the chakras, it can be like, oh, okay, I'm having leg issues. Maybe there's a root belief that I am not you know, I am facing some confrontation on and it could be something like, you know, divorce is bad. Oh, and now I'm going through a divorce and that's coming up for me, and suddenly I have leg issues and feed issues. So it is really important to just tap in, you know and know know about them because it can really inform what's going on in your life. The second one is below your button, belly button.

12:39 It's the sacral chakra. Okay, I'm gonna slow you down. I want you to go back to the rich all right. Soy, based on your experience, and I know different people may have different approaches on this, but based on your experience, what what is some of the symptomology that someone would experience if that chakra happens to be diminished or closed off. What are some of the symptomology that they would experience so that they can go, Okay, you know what I'm experiencing this, I need to work on the road chakra. I'm experiencing feet pain, I'm experiencing leg pain, trouble walking hips.

13:22 It really is about that base like of you feeling safe on the planet, you know, and also that feeling of maybe not feeling safe, maybe you know, feeling anxiety. I mean, anxiety can come from a lot of the chakras, but like you're feeling anxiety and leg issues, it would definitely be the first chakra is a good one to address. Great, Okay, so let's go to the second chakra. Now, second chakras orange, just a little below the belly button, it's sacre chakra. And this is kind of makes sense that all about our reproductive organs, how we see ourselves as a man and a woman, how we emotions, and so all of these are formed at different kind of years. You know, those are a little after births, you could say, like how your parents talk to you might be how you start creating your emotions, you know, and how how you feel about yourself as a man or woman, you know, a boy or girl. And it can cause infertility issues if you know if that chakra is imbalanced, which again, these kind of makes sense when you start learning about them, You're like, oh, it's right around where the you know, the reproductive organs are. It would make sense. You know, it can cause infertility, it can cause you know, prostate issues, it can cause issues with those sexual organs if there was if there was sexual abuse, you could have issues with the sacral chakra. So it really is about bringing them into balance. And again these are about like something a lot of love

14:56 to this area. It's not about judging. You know, anything that we've gone through deserves a whole lot of love to heal because it's something that we've had to endure and a human three we've all had to endure different traumas and different experiences. I don't think anyone's had a totally blessed life their whole life. You know, we've all this is part of being human on this planet. So showing love what happens is, you know, when something hurts, we usually put our focus, Oh, why is that out of balance? We don't give thanks to our body every day for functioning, for breathing, we're allowing us to walk, we're doing these things. So things do get out of balance, and so it is really just focusing on that and that I found, you know, that one. I've done layers of healing on.

15:41 Actually, that is the root of abundance too. That's like the start of money issues and feeling safe with money. So let me ask you a questions. Sometimes, do people, because I've heard different explanations, Sometimes do people get the sacral and the chakra confused because the location and so forth, I get to say that, I mean, and they're all related. It's not like they're totally. They definitely feed into each other as well, like the first through third, or the lower, the fifth through seventh, or the upper and the fourth kind of combines them all. They all do feed into each other for sure. Okay, on each other, all right. So so as you talk about abundance and some of those types of things, that's also with the sacrald chakra. Yes, yes, And that's the start of the start of it. Because if you've been brought up saying rich people are bad, money is evil, you know that kind of stuff, It will really start to inform if you feel safe with money. Yeah, okay.

16:45 Third chakra is the solar plexus, so that is below kind of between your belly button and your heart a little you little closer to your heart, and that is yellow, so it's roy GBIV going you know, colors of the rainbow going up, and that is your power center. So this is really if it's overactive, you can kind of fight for power, you know, the people that maybe you know, I feel like they have to control everything. And then if it's underactive, you can really feel like you don't have any power. That can also cause anxiety and cause digestive issues. It makes sense, like life is hard to really like swallow and digest when things are you know, when we get stressed out, we get stomach aches.

17:33 It makes sense, you know, stress really we feel out of control. So this is another one. Like the lower chakras, especially lately, are pretty hard because you know, life's been challenging for a lot of people. Yeah, And that one they're between the belly betton and the heart is called which chakra solar plexus soles Okay, okay, all right, And then we move to the next chakra, which is the heart, my favorite heart. And so that combines the lower chakras with the upper chakras. So the lower chakras are really about our life here on earth, and the upper ones are really more about our soul and our heavenly, our creative aspects. And so the heart is really in the middle and it combines them both, and it's self love, it's love and relationships. It's our heart and our lungs.

18:25 It's yeah, are we willing to receive? Are we willing to receive love from other people? So if that's out of balance, it can cause heart issues, it can cause breast cancer, it can cause lung issues, trouble breathing. So and you know that kind of makes sense too because of its relationships. You know, it's like your heart is yeah broken, you know, your heart is not working as well. And this is the hard one too, because a lot of people aren't taught to feel that self love and that real flex in the relationships. If you feel you are not worthy, you're going to be attracting relationships that prove to you that you're not worthy.

19:06 So it really is important to embrace that self love, do the healing work that's needed. Yeah, I know, it's not healing's not pretty, you know, I mean, we have to come across the past things that are triggering. For sure, we're so much better. On the other side, if we can be loving to ourselves, non judgmental. No, you know, whatever coping mechanisms we've had, it's because it's satiated us in some way. Like, really start to be our best friend? I mean that really is about the hard choker too, Like can you give as much love to yourself as you easily give to someone else, maybe even a stranger in the street, you know, or your pet? Can you start giving yourself that love and non judgment non be non judgmental? Okay, heard choker, what's the next one? Rue? So blue? And that is communication, it's living authentically. It's how we express ourselves. Uh definitely, yeah, like creation, are we speaking our truth? You know? Are we you know?

20:07 Actually it's how are we hearing other people's truth too? So thyroid issues, you know, I know a lot of like women sometimes have the thyroid issues. Maybe they weren't allowed to speak growing up. Maybe you know they're dead, or you know a man in their life, or you know someone else. Sometimes it's the mom to say, you know, you're not allowed to speak, and you can have thyroid issues or a lot of throat aches. So really being able to create is wonderful way to like even out that chakra. We can talk about like some of those things like the root chakra. If you walk on the earth or dance, that's a great way to bring it into balance the throat chakra. Singing, you know, expressing yourself somehow. Maybe you like to draw, maybe you like to paint, right, Writing is another great one. But really to be able to communicate your truth well, and what I find as I was and I've taught some courses on personalities and what I find as you talk about speaking your truth, one of the things that I've taught before and I really understand in my mind to be true, is so often, you know, we have that social personality.

21:18 It's not our core personality, it's that social personality where we behave the way we think we ought to behave. So people have told us for so long, whether it's parents, peers, teachers, whatever, that this is how you need to be and therefore that's how we express ourselves. Is this something that affects that throat chakra when they're not speaking their truth? Okay? Yeah, yeah, feeling safe to be authentic? Do you know who you are? Even like I mean, I know that's a big thing too, is so many times we fall into the roles of who we are. You know, I'm mom or dad, I'm wife or husband, I'm this personality at work. This to my siblings, like, but do you know who you are? You know? Who are you under all of that? And I know that was a big part of me being sick as I lost who I was. I was mom, I was wife, I was daughter, I was friend, you know, but who was Jenny? You know?

22:11 So really, as you understand that deeper, you can express that deeper, and you attract the people around you that reflect that too. You know, on the spiritual journey, that's been one of the hardest things. That's people come in and out of your life as well, because as you're changing, you know the people around you will change as well. Yes, yes, okay, Next chakra third I probably the most popular chakra because it is you know, right between get a little above, but right between your eyebrows. It is your psychic abilities. And that's not always clearvoyance. I know a lot of people see it as clearvoyance, but there are it's clear seeing. I look at it as binocular looking in and out. How do you see that side world? The truth of it, you know, and how do you see yourself truthfully? And that's a tough one these days. You know, bring an ai too, you know, it's really important to have a balanced six shoppers so we can discern what is true for us and trust our intuition. Again, a lot of people see this as the third eye, the big eye there and looking out and clairvoyants. But we can have psychic abilities in so many different ways. Some people here that's Claire audience. Some people you know, feel things, you know, Clare sentience. Some people know things clar cognizance. So even like before cell phones, like if the phone would bring and you'd know who is calling, or even you know, if your cell phone's there, you know who's calling. You know, you have a feeling you need to call someone and they were really thinking about you.

23:41 Like, we do have these abilities. We're more connected, you know then maybe we give ourselves credit for. But the more we hone in on this and the more we hone in on our truth of who we are, we can really kind of see the outside world clearer too. And if it's a out of balance, we can get headaches and dizzyness and earaches. Yeah, just feel out of balance. Okay, so that's number six right, Yeah, So what's the seventh chakra? That is the crown chakra. Crown, So that is about so this one is indigo and this one is violet. The sixth chakra is indigo and seven chakra is violet. Some people see it as white too, and that is really about our connection to everything.

24:30 So I love their food and colors to balance each but I love this fact about like the crown chakra is like, are you being mindful when you eat? Are you paying attention? Are you just shoveling food in? You know, here we have fat food and everything. Oh my god, I got ten minutes they got to shovel food. Are you being mindful? Are you like really present with the food that you're eating. It's your connection to the world. Are you connected to nature? Are you connected to other people? Do you feel that connection or do you feel very disconnected? And it can make you feel very It causes a lot of the things, like the sixth chakra does like disconnection, but if you are connected, you can really kind of into it. You can feel walk in nature and feel that connection.

25:14 You can be with animals and feel that connection to them. A lot clearer. So it's a beautiful one about really being mindful, really being like present, so to tap into that that wisdom of the universe. And like I mentioned before, the seventh one is really about like the upper ones are about that like almost like heavenly uh more spiritual side, and the root one is more the earth side. But if you combine them both, it's like connecting that heaven and Earth. So like meditations you'll find will go from the crown to the root chakra because you're connecting that heaven to earth, like really wanting to bring that in, and you can bring that in kind of to your art, like recognizing, oh, I am walking on this earth and I am connected there, but I'm also connected to so much more. You know, we're all connected. We all can influence each other. Now, there are some out there that talk about an eighth chakra which is above the crown.

26:17 Can you talk about that that is also that's our more spiritual chakra. And again so a lot of people won't go there. I really I've kind of studied the thirteen, but I think like the seven are good one to start with for your body, Like if you're going to start studying your body and being your inner diagnostic system. Start with the seven because they make a lot of sense. But if you want to go out there a little bit, you know, the eighth one is you know there's protection there around us too, and yeah, you can go a little more. Woo woo. Okay, okay, all right, we won't go there right now. So let me ask you a question, because obviously you're talking about these what are the main ways that someone can recognize? Number one? Okay, what I'm experiencing right now is not working and identifying which chakra it is that may be closed or multiple chakras that may be a little bit more closed. How did they go about opening up those chakras? As question number one? Question number two and three is I know that you have literally seen and helped people with sciatica pain, many were actually cancer has disappeared. Can you sare number one?

27:41 How does someone go about opening up those chakras? And then number two? What are those specific experiences that you've observed and been a part of and how did that all come about? Yeah? Well, I do think it is that love and getting that information from whatever chakra is out of balance. So as we went through the body parts, They really relate to kind of the body parts bottom to top. You know, if you know what body parts hurt, you can kind of you could google it, or you could just simply like tune in and ask, okay, which chakra is out of balance? Put your hand on each chakra and ask, you know, are you in balance? If you have a pendulum, you could put your pendulum above each you know, and if it's clockwise it's imbalance, counterclockwise it's not.

28:29 There's lots of ways we can check in and see bring them into balance. I mean, I have like a free course on my site like self Love through the Chakras. It's really about bringing in that love to each chakra, really forgiving whatever is out of balance, coming into a place of non judgment, coming into a place of love for yourself, for that sending a lot of love there. As I mentioned when I was healing, you know, I'd put my hand on my legs and send them love instead of cursing them like I usually was. You know, really like being able to love that part of you, because it's kind of asking for love. I mean, if you think of someone that's hurt, you know, and they need, you'd give them a hug. It's your body really is kind of acting for love and that appreciation. So some of the situations I've had. One of them actually was through a Nakasha clearing that a client had pain, very bad ssiatica pain and could not walk more than a couple of blocks. But after the Akasha clearing, which we found out there was an energetic blockage from their ex you know, in their like in chakra, you know. So when that was removed, they had no more ssiatica pain. And it's been like ten years and no more ssiatica pain. We're able to walk, you know, miles and miles after that. I've seen cancer disappear. There is a mom that had cancer. She was given two weeks to live, and there was a lot of guilt that she had faced around decisions she had made

30:00 for her son. She was a young mom with the son abusive X. You know, there's a lot of guilt and shame that with the akashak reading and with some healings, like she was able to really release that from her heart. It had started as breast cancer and it had spread. She's been healthy for I think almost ten years now, cancer free for like seven years so I mean really giving ourselves that permission and love that we need. I mean, our body again isn't punching us. It's saying, hey, pay attention something out of balance here, you know. And I you know, in most cases people can heal. There are some cases where people will not heal, and I feel like, you know, passing on can be the healings sometimes, you know, but most cases people can heal if they're given the right resources. Right, and you're talking about the akasha clearing and so forth. But let's talk about meditation. What what effect does meditation have, because that's some thing that an individual can actually learn how to do and if they do it the right way, be very effective. And from what the studies that I've read, that also has the healing capacity of many diseases, among emotional whether it's physical or emotional. So talk a little bit about your experience with meditation and what your thoughts are about that and how someone can apply that in their lives. Yeah, and so if say you've located your first chakra, you've had legs and feet issues, putting your hand on your root

31:34 chakra, you know, maybe one in the front and one on your back and sending it love, thinking of all the ways that your legs have helped you through the years, like really reversing our language about it, but getting very mindful because it is subconscious that we're like how that hurts? You know, how that hurts, and all the focus goes there and we're really not giving those cells time to repair themselves. But at night too, and at night night and in the morning, doctor dug at the most important times, because our body is our mind is kind of in that subconscious state. So the method just go deeper. So before you go to bed and in the morning, in the shower, I love that time too, you know, really pay attention to how you're thinking. Are you sending love to yourself or are you talking about how bad the day was? Getting mindful of what you're saying near yourself before you're going to sleep, putting your hand on your heart, telling yourself you love yourself, You're there for yourself. You know, what do you need? Body? You know, I'm sending you love.

32:37 You know, Oh my throat hurts. Let me put my hand on my throat. I'm sorry, I know, Like when I get a sore throat usually means I'm not speaking my truth about something, or there might be an uncomfortable conversation they need to have. So letting your body inform you about what it needs. But we have to quiet the mind to do that. We won't do that if we're on our cell phone and our laptop at the same time. It really is about maybe taking a couple of deep breaths, getting yourself centered, letting the day go, giving yourself permission to let the day go, asking your body what it needs, sending it on conditional love. I love your body, Thanks for showing up for me, you know, like we never really stopped and think our body that runs, you know, consistently all these programs for us. So really, mindfulness is so helpful because it does it can start changing ourselves. It can start informing up, you know, of of our new reality. Really, you know, if you do this in every part of your life, If you do this thinking about a difficult person at work, you know, you know, just oh, you know, they must be going through things too. I love them as a person, Like, think about something you love about that person. There are different ways to change our reality, but it really is not getting caught up in the past triggers and stories which I know is very easy to do, you know. But even if it's setting an alarm a couple times a day, being like, hey, what was I thinking the last five minutes?

34:00 Where was I? You know? And bringing yourself to the present moment? Where do you want to be? Where do you you know? How can you support yourself in this moment? Taking those couple of breaths, blowing yourself down, putting your hands on your heart, and telling yourself something positive, something about what you want to emit. I you know, I want to feel love. I'm sending love to myself. I'm sending love to everyone in the world right now. Whatever it is, just to bring yourself to the present moment is very powerful, okay. And focusing on that breath from what I've studied is really important as you're sitting there, or I happen to do walking meditation so I accomplish, you know, I'll walk three and a half miles and meditate, And obviously it's not easy to keep the mind free of everything because other stuff comes in. But at the same time, if someone's meditating, is it that they need to focus? How do they get rid of every outside of you know that keeps coming into their mind is it really the focus on their breaths, on their breathing to where that becomes the main focus. And then if that's the case, you know, you talk about the secret and I've interviewed different people who've been involved in that particular thing at the root and talking about the fact that there's some other elements that need to be incorporated for that. So you get to the point of mindfulness, you're free yourselves from all of that, and then you start to make those

35:34 affirmations or whatever you want to call them. I appreciate what you said about the gratitude because as I you know, as I've been thinking, as I think about it as I'm meditating, is like, I'm grateful for as you said, for instance, I'm grateful that my body is helping. I'm grateful that my knees feel good. I'm grateful for this. And literally, as you're doing that, you're creating that whole issue and being able to open up or you're opening up the chakras or whatever that happens to be. So, how long should one spend in a meditative state? And obviously it's not like I do, but how long would you say, what's the minimum that someone should spend really focusing on that breadth to the point where they get out of their mind, they become truly mindful of themselves. What would you say that is, Well, it's interesting, doctor Dun because I've heard even as little as seventeen seconds since can start creating changes. So what a beautiful way to start, you know, give yourself seventeen seconds, and I love there are so many different techniques. You can imagine yourself putting all your problems in a box and closing the lid, you know, and then being like, Okay, now I'm going to focus on my breathing. I'll just intend my breath to slow. They're different breathing techniques. I like the box breathing technique.

36:58 You breathe in for four, you hold for for you exhale for four and hold for four. That they train navy seals to do that, and you know in times of extreme stress, so that have to work. You know, their training maybe feeal to do it. So bring yourself to that calm place and then introduce a thought, a mantra. You know, Gratitude is the secret sauce. It's where if you focus on gratitude, things start to change really quickly and making walking in nature is such a beautiful place because I'm grateful for the sidewalk or the grass that I'm walking on. I'm grateful for the tree. I'm grateful for the flowers. Like there are so many things in nature to be grateful for too. But being mindful, you know, we can we can be We can meditate in almost any moment. We can make our cup of coffee in the morning. I'm grateful for this coffee.

37:49 I'm so grateful for this yemmy creamer I found. I'm grateful for my phomer. You know, whatever it is, we can meditate during it. Sometimes it's easier for people to do a couple of things of the time, you know, to focus on their breathing and say, I'm man trip. They have a busy mind, you know. Then maybe you know you're rubbing your hands together and you're also feeling the energy between you're introducing another element. But it's really about what is it going to take to get you to be in the present moment. And if you have a thought come in, don't beat yourself up, you know, because we're human and thoughts coming right. You can either say do I need to look at this now, No, I don't. I'll pull that, you know, for later, you know, or maybe it's coming to mind, because it is something that you need to think about, you know, really being gentle with yourself, because meditation looks different for everybody too well. And sometimes what I found is that third eye kicks in and all of a sudden you start to gain all sorts of insights that you would never expect to gain, which is fascinating. You know what's fascinating to me, and I think the audience is important for them to hear this is that, you know, what we talk about right now seems to be all stuff. But now they're finding that there's actually biochemical changes that occur through the process of meditation that starts to heal the body from different experiences, different diseases, all of those types of things. So it's amazing how something

39:20 that was so unaccepted years ago now is becoming not only accepted, but now actually validated through research and through medical type of research by a few who are willing to do that. So here's the question, Jenny, how do people find you? Because we're almost out of time here, so how can people find you? Because obviously you have some talents and abilities that what I have found is most people really struggle doing some of this on their own, and to be able to have someone that can help them and to guide them along that path can make such a difference. How do people find you? They can find me on my website Jennymanion dot com, j E N n y m A n nio n dot com. I have a free that we're wakening self love through the Chakra class there, you know, and love to offer support and love to offer people guidance because it does help, you know, sometimes to just have someone that's cheering you on giving you some tools. You know, and I see the best in everyone. I know that you know, we've all had our challenges and we all deserve a life that's a lot easier usually than our life currently. Is so true. Well, thank you so much for being on the show. This has been fantastic. Thank you so much, doctor Doug. Well. And you know, the one thing

40:52 that I realized is there's a few people set yourself out there that really are making a difference in people's lives. Because here you are a clinical psychologist, right and yet or at least you have you study psychology, and yet you're moving into an area that is a little bit outside of that process, and yet you're having such an effect on other people's lives. So shout out to you for making a difference in other people's lives and folks, thank you, thank you for listening. Hope you enjoyed it and look forward to having you join us again soon