The Transformation Promise

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of the day, it's not about
what you have or even what you've accomplished.

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It's about what you've done with those
accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted

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up, who you've made better.
It's about what you've given back. Denzel

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Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision.
Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives

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of others and to inspire you to
do the same. Joanna Durbiloski, how

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are you doing? I am doing
fantastic. How are you hey? Great?

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It's so great to have you on
the show. I love the topic

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that we're going to talk about today, and I'd love for you for the

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audience share with the audience who you
are, how you reached this point in

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your life to where you're doing what
you're doing, and talk a little bit

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about the book and the workbook that
you've written. Okay, Well, first

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of all, I'm really honored to
be here on your show, and well

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about myself. This has been a
lifelong journey, as everybody's. I started

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out with my interest in metaphysics as
long as I can remember back, and

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there was always a little something that
didn't fit. So I would take that

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up with my grandmother at first,
and she said, oh, you know,

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take your issues up with God.
That didn't work that well because I

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wasn't patient enough to hear the answers. But so I studied with healers and

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shaman and then went through a rebellious
phase of not wanting to be like that

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on a mountaintop, and I studied
the psychology of children facing life threatening illnesses,

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and you know that, the age
old question why do things happen to

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certain people and why not? Kept
me going in my search, and eventually

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I studied clairvoyant training and I taught
that for many years, and also prosperity,

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and I became a hypnotherapist and breaking
master and all sorts of things along

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the way, and eventually ended up
at the thing that I do when I

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called the quantum heart field experience where
we shift out of the consciousness that our

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current problems. To talk about Albert
Einstein, you know, who said no

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problem can be solved by the consciousness
they created it. So I worked on

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how can we step outside of the
consciousness that creates the problems that we're having

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right now, whether they're in business
or life or health problems, so that

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we can solve them and move on
and get to the next problem, because

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there's always more. The universe seems
to have an ample supply of challenges.

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Well there are, and you know, it's amazing how how we all kind

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of process that life experience and go
through and then reach a certain point where

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we're really looking to help others and
based on our own personal experiences, and

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you know, as you've done major
research and all those types of things,

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and all of a sudden you're at
a point and it never stops. You

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know, not to say that you're
at that point yet, but it never

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stops, or that I am that
it never stops. That we're really there

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to help people. So what I'd
like for you to do is to really

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define for the audience what is the
quantum heart field. Well, I named

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it the quantum heart field because it's
based on quantum physics. Okay, well,

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my work is based on quantum physics
that we're all moving particles, and

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those particles can rearrange in any which
way or form and change, so shifting

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is actually possible. We're not ever
stuck. Transformation happens all the time,

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a lot of times not in the
direction we want to go in if we

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just wait for things to happen.
But we can also consciously help transform the

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situations we're in, and you know, eventually the world. We can transform

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the world by transforming ourselves. Well, and the quantum field is is really

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what a field that's outside of our
conscious mind? And and what what exists

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in that quantum field? In your
opinion, I think it's awareness. It's

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pure awareness that we have access to
it all times, but we get so

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stuck in the perceived reality that we
don't know that. You know, there's

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a place where we're all at peace, there's a place where our spirit is,

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there's a place where all the answers
are, so essentially the place we

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came from, come back to and
always are. Okay, and its powerful,

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isn't it? It is very powerful? And you know it's I'm sorry.

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Well, you know, it kind
of counteracts us feeling that we're a

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victim of something. Well, and
it's interesting. I don't know if you've

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heard of doctor Joe Dispensa, but
he talks a lot about the quantum field.

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But what he is experiencing with his
followers or clients or whatever you want

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to call them, is that there
are many that not only experience that piece

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and start to eliminate some of those
disabling, limiting beliefs that are subconscious,

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but also they're able to tap into
some of those healing capabilities. And now

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there are physicians that are actually in
their studying this with him and showing from

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a medical and scientific standpoint the value
and the actual changes, the positive changes

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that take place within the body for
healing and for all of those types of

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things. So I think it's important
for the audience to understand that we're not

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talking boogo anymore. We're talking things
that are actually scientifically based, and though

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you know, we may talk a
little bit out there about it, the

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reality is is that it exists,
it's scientifically based, and it has miraculous

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capabilities if we're able to tap into
it. So I'd love for you to

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just kind of sure based on your
experience in a new book, what do

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you do when you get stuck in
a problem or an issue. Well,

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I myself, when I get stuck
in the problem, I have my moments

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of whining. I try to keep
them fairly short and then you know,

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look for solutions. But when you
when you are in the quantum field,

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it's just molecules. This reality is
just molecules that come together in a different

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way. So if you know,
not observed, that was the big thing.

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If you don't observe something, it
actually doesn't exist in your reality.

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So if that is true, as
in the physics, then things can also

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shift. So if you're sick or
you're having some really big problems, then

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you can also rearrange those molecules in
your body and the cells in your body

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to be on that healing path or
instantaneous healing. I mean, I've seen

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it all and it never you know, it always amazes me what actually we

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can do when we let go and
surrender and you have to stories. Do

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you have any stories that you can
share with the audience that kind of talks

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about that healing process It can occur
you have tons of stories. The one

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that comes to mind is kind of
funny because it has all the full spectrum

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of it on it. So when
I first learned this, I was really

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aware of that healing can take place
instantaneously. I mean, as a kid,

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I experienced that we would go to
the shepherd on the mountaintop and you

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know, people had shingles and he
would talk to the shingles and the shingles

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were gone. So the possibility of
that happening was instilled in me early on.

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So I knew that there's no limits
to miracles. And for me,

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the story that I'm going to share
is kind of a little bit embarrassing.

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But after I really learned that and
I thought, wow, I have the

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answers now, not a good thought
to ever have in the universe. I

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taught a workshop to chiropractice on instantaneous
healings, and the day before, actually

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the evening before I broke my ankle, and I had walk in on crutches

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to talk about talking about being knocked
off your soapbox. It was a big

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it was, but it was one
of the best workshops ever and for me

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it and healings terms. I look
at what is the universe telling me.

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What is my spirit telling me?
Well, first of all, one message

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was don't get you know, too
full of yourself here and that I got

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that message right away. And the
second was that there were things that I

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had ignored for a long time that
I needed to take care of in my

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office. And by being immobilized,
I mean I live in LA so if

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you can't drive. Of course,
I broke my right ankle. So if

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you can't drive, you can't do
anything. So I said, okay,

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I get the message. I have
to take care of all my things here.

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And it took me about a week
and a half to weeks, and

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I went somewhere and I ended up
having to drive. So I took the

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cast off and I drove home and
I said, oh, my ankle feels

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totally fine. And I went back
to the doctor the next day and he

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said, oh, it can't be. But then he x rayed and he

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said, well, I guess your
ankle is heeled. So I think that

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a lot of times things happen to
us. They have a message. They're

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not just there. They have a
message. They have a direction. And

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if we can find out what direction
this is going to or it's pointing us

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to Well, you know, it's
interesting that you talk about that because I

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think so many times we have experiences
in our lives, just as you mentioned,

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you broke your ankle, and we
all have situations that come up,

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whether it's broken bones, or whether
it's an illness, or whether it's whatever

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it happens to be, and so
often we let that affect us in a

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negative way. And here you're talking
about as you looked at that went back

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to the doctor. You know your
ankle was fine, it was healed,

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but you look back and recognize,
I'm gaining a sense that there was a

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sense of gratitude in your heart for
those two two and a half weeks that

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you're healing, because you're able to
accomplish things that you really needed to accomplish.

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So I'd love for you to talk
a little bit about gratitude forgiveness.

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What does that do not only for
the people that you know may have offended

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us, our situations that have occurred, but more importantly inwardly for ourselves.

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What does forgiveness and gratitude do for
us? Well, that's a big section

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in my book actually, as the
tools to move forward in life and with

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transformation because if we have, if
we don't forgive, we drag behind us

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a lot of baggage that is weighing
us down. So unless you are training

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for some amazing sports event, it's
not good to drag a lot of stuff

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behind you. It will make it
hard to get anywhere. It's frustrating.

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And the thing with forgiving is the
other person doesn't suffer. So if we

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don't forgive, they don't care.
They've moved on. It's none of their

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problems. So it only affects yourself
if you can't forgive, so your self

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punishing. By not forgiving, you
are self punishing, and that's useless.

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Well, and let me let me
ask you a question about forgiveness, because

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you know there there, there's so
many times you hear you know you need

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to forgive, whether whether you know
whatever source that comes from. But what

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in your mind? What is forgiveness? And how do we actually achieve it?

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How do we actually in our heart
truly give someone wrong this? Well,

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number one is by realizing that by
holding on to that, they are

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still wronging us in some way because
we're dragging it with us, there's no

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point to it. And the other
one is if you have this life attitude

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that this is your life, it's
your play, it's your movie. You're

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the writer, you're the director.
You put the roles in there, and

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some roles are pleasant and some roles
that you have characters play are unpleasant.

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But usually when we look back,
we see that somebody that was you know

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you have you may have an expouse
that was really mean, but you're now

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in a really happy relationship. You
wouldn't have been there if you hadn't gone

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through that, you would not be
at this place now. So when you

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look at today is the day that
you have to live, and you want

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to hold on to all these things
that happened to you at some point,

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then you're doomed. You'll never be
happy. You're never going to be able

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to live a fulfilled, happy life
if you are not forgiving. My favorite

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tool for forgiving is who I think. That is a magical healing method.

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That's what I use with my clients
and everybody, and I've seen people change

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their whole life in like an hour. Sure with the audience what that is.

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It's a Hawaiian healing method. It
really was made It's an old one

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but made famous by doctor Lu Haliakala, and it's the original version. The

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old healing method is seven steps,
but he narrowed it down to four,

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which is the one that I adopt. Step number one is take responsibility.

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This is your life. Everything in
your life, everybody in your life is

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part of your story. So you
wrote the roles for those people. So

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basically, if you were mean to
me today, I wrote that script for

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you to be mean to me today
because I wanted to learn something or I

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wanted to, you know, feel
different, or maybe learn about forgiveness or

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whatever it is. So I take
responsibility for that. When I take responsibility

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for that, I realized that I
wrote you not a very nice part in

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my play. You you are the
villain. Unless you really enjoy being the

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villain. It's not a pleasant part. So I apologize. I take responsibility.

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I apologize. So I'm sorry,
thank you for doing this, and

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I love you, and you let
it go. You know, it's interesting

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as you talk about that, and
I think that that's amazing that you've you've

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seen that experience in following that process, how it really helps people to forgive.

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But you mentioned something, and it's
something about how we create our own

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life, you know, It's fascinating
to me as I've visited with different people

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and people who have really studied this, that our life is literally our reality,

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and as you say, it's kind
of our own life film, and

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we are the director, we are
the writer, and we can change that

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film and that life just based on
decisions that we make, in awareness that

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we have and the ability to go
from experiencing a life of frustration and you

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know, anger, whatever that happens
to be, and recognizing, you know

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what, I can change that and
I can experience a better life. And

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it really does come back to what
you were talking about, is that personal

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responsibility to say, you know what, I'm going to take responsibility for my

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own life. If this person offended
me in some way, you know what,

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whatever that is, I'm going to
let it go. I'm going to

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forgive them, going to move forward. And I think that's so significant.

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What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, And it's really simple, and

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it gives the power back to you, to you you can decide how you

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want to feel. You are not
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feel bad. Or if you go
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If you're really attached to being right
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then you will suffer. The attachments
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to anything, nothing can hurt you. That's, you know, including the

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body. If you're not attached to
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really harm you, it would not
cause suffering. Maybe pain, but not

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suffering. And what is your experience
how do people get into that quantum field

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from a mindset where they really become
mindful of that and be able to tap

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into that quantum field for creation of
their new life and elimination of those past

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experiences that are literally affecting their happiness
and their lives. What has been your

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experience of how people tap into that. I think everybody wants to be feeling

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good and happy, so if people
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really want to suffer for the most
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experience. If somebody comes and they
think like, oh, this is all

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woogle and I, you know,
mind bending and I don't really believe in

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that, and I said, that's
fine, just play along for and see

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if it's useful. So a big
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Is it making your life experience better? And when they follow along in just

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pretending the story that this is their
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are profound. I mean a lot
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they realize what they have put a
villain through in his life script to fit

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their role, because you know,
somebody may not have a very pleasant life

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to be the person that ends up
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and you know you said that you've
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Do you find that for instance,
you know you've got meditation and I

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know a lot of people and particularly
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Buddhists and the meditation and how that
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way. I mean, it's phenomenal
to see these people who are struggling,

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who are so poor, and yet
they have a smile on their face and

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they're happy. And I think a
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culture and they've tapped into that in
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that allows you to get there.
Does hypnotherapy also? Is that kind of

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a a guided meditation to be able
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area from a mindful standpoint, or
what are your thoughts on that. I

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don't really think so. I think
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what we have stuffed away in our
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decisions and behaviors, because there's something
that we have, you know, moved

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totally out of sight, so it's
another baggage that we've created. The subconscious

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actually is there to protect you.
So when you have a lot of people

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will become very heavy when they're suffered
abuse, So that's quite common that they

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gain a lot of weight because that
is a layer of protection from people coming

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too close to them. So if
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point inside and tell the subconscious that
is actually no longer serve me, and

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it's no longer protecting me because now
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then the weight loss becomes easier because
you're on the same page with your

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subconscious. Is really there to get
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a huge part of you, okay, and you know in your book

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you divide life into structure. You've
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emotional, you have the spiritual structure. Can you talk a little bit about

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how those are tools to really get
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needs to shift in your life.
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the most important thing is that you
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always question and find out who you
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so to explain it, I thought, I don't know why that just came

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to me. To divide it up
for explanation purposes. Of course, we

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can't just be physic or anything.
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body, what's the physical things around
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so you become aware of where your
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And the physical is pretty easy to
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houses and roads and everything. But
the mental emotional ones are a little bit

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trickier to see because that's a lot
depends on what we do. Because if

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we have this job, then we
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The job's not good for us,
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home, or our friends or our
relatives. Family and kids don't want to

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move, and we don't want to
make them, so it's a lot more

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involved, but even there it's good
to know, and you can still make

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the decision to stay in your job, but you are not victim of having

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to be in your job anymore.
You decide to do that because the emotions

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and the social standings are important to
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And then the spiritual structure is my
favorite, because that's what causes all the

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wars in the world and everything.
That's what we believe in and we hold

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on to that stronger than anything else, and that we don't have to move

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to shift that. We don't have
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It just takes one thought. If
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judge the people around you, you're
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if I believe something, and I
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then at that exact same moment,
I declare that everybody that does not

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believe that is wrong. And we
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the world that's all about that.
Instead of saying like, well, this

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is what you know what I think
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maybe I'm not right, and you
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judge and be very rigid and even
about little things, you know, fights

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with your neighbors or teachers or whatever
it is around. So to just become

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aware of how your structures limit you, how much you're not flowing when you

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are stuck in an actual structure,
which will at the end of this life

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latest Vanish, I mean, it's
nothing we can take with us well,

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and that's true. You know,
it's interesting. About a month and a

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half ago, I was, you
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temples and so forth, and as
I was traveling, there was something that

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really struck me at one temple,
because you know, here we are a

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Buddhist temple, and people are very
very cautious to go in without their shoes.

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They're they're praying, they're supplicating,
they're they're you know, bringing food

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for the monks, they're doing all
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I saw another building in the Buddhist
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that and they said, that's for
the Muslims to be able to come and

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pray. And it was fascinating to
me because as you say, there's there's

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such a mentality that we need to
be right, and particularly when you get

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into that spiritual aspect and religious aspect, and yet here they are allowing and

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actually building space for people of other
faiths, of a religions to be able

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to worship in the way that they
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that's fascinating that if we can reach
a point in time it doesn't take away

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from what our personal spiritual belief is. But if we can recognize that people

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have different backgrounds, they came from
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belief that works for them, that
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And if we can allow them to
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affect us and actually be happy and
grateful that they are experiencing whatever type of

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spirituality and happiness enjoy that they experience
through that process, to me, I

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think you've hit it right on the
head that that becomes the key. And

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as you say right now, in
the wars that are going on in all

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of those type of things, it
all has to do with this concept of

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I have to be right and my
way is the only way. And when

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we yeah, and when we can
start to move away from that and respect

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and realize that, you know what
I can. I can have my belief

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and feel very strong about that,
and yet I can also allow others to

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have their belief because that is important
to them. That would be wonderful.

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I think we're all hoping that that
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the way things are now, we
can destroy the world at one you

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know, push of a button.
And we need to come together. And

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the thing is that the news,
the media, they all benefit from us

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going at each other. So everything
is set up to keep us at odds

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with each other. But it would
be good if we could see past that

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and see that we can actually be
together. We're together here, I mean

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we are. I had an echo
cardiogram and I was talking to the guy

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doing the ultrasound and he said,
well, to me, everybody looks the

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same because he just looks at the
hearts on the monitor. You know,

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whatever they come in, whatever their
problem is, they all look the same.

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They all have a heart. We
all have. You know, we

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were all born. We have much
more in common than we have, not

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in common, and I think it's
really urgent that we start coming together and

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then dealing with things like taking care
of our planet and everything, because that's

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also what we need to survive.
Well, that's so true, And I'm

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curious, you know, when you
talk about their quantum heart field experience,

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what other stories other than the one
that you shared about yourself and your personal

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experience, What other stories of people
that you know or that you've helped.

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What is a one story that comes
to your mind of the significance of that

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quantum heart field experience. Well,
I have had people that completely changed careers

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within you know, one twenty minute
session and changed their life entirely because things

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all of a sudden fell into place
differently. And also people that were in

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pain and five minutes later were not
in pain. And you know, I'm

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always amazed because I don't expect anything
to happen. I'm not really, It's

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not that I'm doing anything. I'm
just you know, I'm just there and

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I'm facilitating and pointing and giving a
direction. But I'm not actually you know,

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administering any medication or any chiropractic adjustment
or anything. But it is you

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know, I love that scene from
way back when I was a kid,

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and I forgot what it's called in
English, the show, But anyway,

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you know the beam me up,
Scotty, Where was Star Trek? Right

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where he steps into this little tube
and then he pixelizes and is gone,

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and then he reappears somewhere else on
some different planet and some different things.

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To me, that's a really powerful
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see it. I think when you
go to the origin before before anything is

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born or created, we are all
just pixel life energy. We're just energy,

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and this energy can then come together
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I work with people, I try
to I see it that way. I

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see them to just completely pixelize and
come back together to whatever whatever that is.

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Well, that's so important you hear
of all of these miracles that people

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experience, and as you said,
you're not the healer, and I think

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that's such an important thing for people
to understand that you know, they've tapped

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into that quantum field. They've tapped
into that type of experience, and in

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your case, you're guiding people to
get tap into that quantum heartfield experience and

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as they do that, they start
to experience that emotional, physical spiritual healing,

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whatever that happens to be. And
kudos to you for not, you

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know, lifting yourself up in pride
and saying that, yeah, here's what

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I'm doing, but rather recognizing that, you know, I'm just a guide.

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I'm here to help people to be
able to experience that, and because

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they do, they themselves are the
ones that are healing themselves. Yeah.

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So generally, even I like to
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only work over the phone, and
people say, why don't you assume because

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when you see somebody, you immediately
you judge them. I mean maybe you

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don't, but I do you see, like, oh they're looking pale,

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or what's wrong with them or whatever? The client would come to me,

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right, I would notice by the
way they walk certain things. But when

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I don't know them, I don't
know what they look like. I don't

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even know, you know, where
they live, how old they are.

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I'm entirely relying on spirit for information. It cannot come from my mind.

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And so to me, even though
sometimes it's like there's always that moment before

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us like, oh, well,
I hope something shows up. So Joanna,

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as we as we close, as
we're closed today, what is the

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message that you would like to share
with the audience from your heart that you

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feel could be something that would be
important for them to resonate with. I

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think a really important message is to
anything is possible, just you know,

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be open, be open to miracles, and be open to experiencing things,

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and watch your attachments because they will
bring you pain and suffering. So if

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you know, if we're in the
moment, then we are fine. We're

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always find in the moment, and
then you know, I encourage everybody to

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really deep, dig deep into your
heart, live from your heart, because

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if you live from your heart,
then you can change the world. You

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can't heal anybody else, you can't
change anybody else, but you can change

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yourself and lead the way to a
different way of being, of operating,

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of seeing the world. Instead of
the old paradigm of I am right and

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you are wrong, we can actually
do it together. Yeah, that's wonderful.

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Thank you so much for being on
the show. I think this message

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of the quantum heart field experience is
so important for people, and I really

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appreciate you being on the show.
Folks, Thanks so much for listening.

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I hope you've gotten something out of
this Joanna, if someone wants to reach

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you or get hold of your book, your workbook, how do they do

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that? Well, my book and
workbook are on Amazon, and also my

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website is Quantumhartfield dot com. So
quantum physics heart is in your chest and

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field is in baseball field. Okay, Quantum heartfield dot com. All right,

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Joanne, thanks so much, folks, thanks for listening. I hope

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you'll join us again soon. Okay