Oct. 16, 2024

Temple of Understanding

Temple of Understanding

It’s not too often that someone is willing to speak out about the virus that is existing within this society and it has nothing to do with medicine. It has everything to do with the mentality and the general unparalleled conflict and sickness that we...

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It’s not too often that someone is willing to speak out about the virus that is existing within this society and it has nothing to do with medicine. It has everything to do with the mentality and the general unparalleled conflict and sickness that we are seeing in our society as well as politics today.
Adrian Emery is one such person.
He will share his thoughts on how it can be turned around and we can experience a paradigm shift for the better good of all.
www.adrianemery.com

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Of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas.

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At the end of the day, it's not about what

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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what

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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,

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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back

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Thanzel Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to.

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Do the same. Adrian, Welcome to the show.

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Good morning, Dr Doug. How are you lovely? Very early,

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probably afternoon your time.

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I was gonna say good afternoon. I know how that goes.

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So you're in Australia.

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I'm in Sydney. I'm in the Blue Mountains, which is

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just west of Sydney. I live on a lovely ten

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acre garden which I have built from scratch. It was

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a bear paddock when I started, and it's now the

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most glorious botanical garden. So that's one of my life passions.

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I like to say, I've spent my life growing plants

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and people.

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Okay, so tell the ada is your history. I mean

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there's always there's always a story. Yeah, there's always a

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background story on that journey to where you are today.

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So i'd love for you that time.

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I'll try and put that in the context of your show,

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which is, you know, like the relationship between business and

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personal development. And also I love your sayings about you know,

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to inspire. So I've pretty much dedicated my life to

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trying to be an inspiration to people. When I started,

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very early on in life, I realized that it was

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easy to be a capitalist, and it was easy to

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be a mystic, But to be a capitalistic mystic or

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a mystical capitalist was what was the challenge that I

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set myself for two reasons. Number one that I believe

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that the whole of life is spiritual. We can't break

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it up into spirit and matter, and so I wanted

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to create a spirituality that was very pragmatic and practical.

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And I also wanted to build businesses that were based

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on spiritual principles. So that's pretty much what I've done

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in my life. I've owned. I love to say I've

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never been an employee in my life. I've been self

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employed from probably about the age of ten, and I've

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owned many businesses over the years, everything from being a

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one man band to my final corporate business was a

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very large Australian national firm with one hundred and eighty

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five employees and eleven officers. So I've straddled the full spectrum,

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but always tried to be an employer of choice and

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to build teams based in harmony, working together and on

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sound spiritual principles.

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Well, and you know that is so important. And one

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of the things I have found is I worked with

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my clients for a little while when I was doing

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the business consulting, was to let them know that, you

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know what, the principles that we're going to talk about

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here in business are going to apply to your life

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and ultimately what you're doing in your life is going

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to affect your business. And so yeah, I'm looking forward

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really to talking today about life individuals and what's going on.

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And you've you've written some books. You have a very

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focused agenda. I'd love for you to share with the audience

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that agenda just as a background for what we're going

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to do.

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Let me just pick up on that point you just made,

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because I think it could lead us into it. I

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believe that your business is your life and your life

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is your business, and I think the beauty of people

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who are entrepreneurs or and to be an entrepreneur, you

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don't necessarily have to, you know, own a corporation. You

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could be a trades person, you can be an artist.

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But when you learn to approach your life as a

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business with the same principles, especially holistic principles, it's completely different.

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Because I think for me, my basic focus or message

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as you like to call it, is that you do

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create your own reality. But there's not in our whole

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education system. There's never been a course called life one

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oh one. If you think of you know, we can

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go through the whole first twenty years of our life

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being educated, but nobody ever sits down and says, okay,

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this is how life works. These are the basic principles. Now,

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of course, some people are brought up in different religions

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or paradigm belief systems. But I'm talking so what I

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set myself out to do was to really understand how

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does life work, What are the fundamental principles that make

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life work, so that you can experience success by your

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intention by working with it. Of course, now today it's

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much more commonplace with positive psychology and so many people,

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but I'm talking about I'm probably late sixties early seventies

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when I really started focusing on these ideas, and so

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it's been my theme or thread all through my life

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of learning, and I still consider myself a novice trying

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to learn exactly how life does work. And I think

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the other thing that I have learned is that you

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can only learn from life from experience. It's not book learning,

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it's not academic. Nobody else can really live your life.

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For yes, we can learn from other wise people, both

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living and dead, but ultimately it's for me anyway. It's

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your personal relationship with your own life, and you need

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to watch it very, very astutely and acutely every day

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as to what's going on. And I find that it

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becomes a beautiful intimacy which I unfortunately think a lot

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of people do not share with their own life. A

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lot of people are a strange you know, some people

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think life is a bitch, or life is hard, or

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life is difficult, or it's not fair, or you know,

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I'm badly done by. So they never really get to

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the point of having what I call is this lovely

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romance or intimacy with your own life, so that it's

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a one to one relationship. And for me it's a partnership.

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It's a business partnership. I want to build a successful

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business with my life, meaning that it works depending on

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whatever your goals are. I mean my goals very much

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alike yours, which is I want to inspire, I want

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to uplift, I want to elevate, I want to try

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and do some good. But one still needs to be

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successful and efficient in achieving that.

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Well, yeah, it doesn't.

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Yeah I've never heard of it put that way, but

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it's making so much sense. You're right, we well, and

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when we talk about running our life as a business, uh,

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you know, the point is is how do we have

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a successful life? And and I love what you're talking

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about here. And I know you've written a.

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Couple of books.

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I know you're you've got a trilogy that you're writing,

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but you haven't come out with the third book yet,

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but that trilogy Temple of Understanding, and you've got what

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the paradigm shift and what you know, the personal sovereignty

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and the howel turnun.

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Yeah yeah, so okay, So if we start at the beginning,

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personal sovereignty is all about being able to make your

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own authentic decisions. The basic problem that I see in

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this society is that we are so influenced from a

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very early age everybody. You think about it, you decide

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you want to do something, and you go and share

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that with your loved one or a friend or whatever.

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What's the first thing everybody says, Oh, that won't work,

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you can't do that, or you know, people don't generally think,

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well that's fantastic, Doug, have a go at it. Yeah

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you know, rah rah. Everyone always has to have a

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negative comment. And particularly in this day of what I

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call mass media and social media, we are so influenced.

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I feel so sorry for the really young people who

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I mean influence. I was watching a show here in

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Australia a few weeks ago about teen influencers. So these

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one child, this is an influencer with hundreds of thousands

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of followers, was four years old, you know, so obviously

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years old, he's or obviously being produced and directed by

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his mother, but still his audience. So from this very

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early age now people are being shepherded into this clone mentality.

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So personal sovereignty is all about being able to be unique, authentic,

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honoring yourself, and being able to make authentic decisions. So

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one of the things that I say is that humanity

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is very bad at making decisions, meaning a lot of

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us are afraid of making decisions. You know, we want

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to go and ask everybody else what should I do?

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Rather than what I've learned is that if you've really

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got a very very serious and important decision to make,

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don't discuss it with anybody until you have made your

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own decisions so you're not influenced. Then yes, go and

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seek advice or talk to people, but make sure that

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you come up with what you want to do first.

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And to do that, you need to go away. You

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need to go with in. You need to get silent

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and not deliberate too much on the intellectual side of

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your mind, but to go in and find out what

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feels good. So one of the things that I talk

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a lot about in personal sovereignty is what I call

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the corporate structure of consciousness. Now, we have many aspects

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of ourselves and we need to learn to unite them

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in a harmonious way and recognize which voices which. So

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you have the voice of reason, which you need to

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listen to. You also have your intuition, which is a

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completely different story. You have a gut feeling, you know.

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Sometimes you get this feeling of that something is right

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or wrong, and that's very visceral, and in your gut.

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You also have your higher consciousness, depending on how you

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want to define that or what particular religion or philosophy

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you want to adhere too, which I don't really like

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going into because again I think that's a very individual thing.

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But we all have this higher knowing. So you've got

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all these different voices and they all have a role

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to play. If you get up in the morning and

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you need to do it to do list, or you

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and I need to arrive at this particular point in time,

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both of our computers. We need to use logic, we

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need to use reason, We need to use time and

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computers and watches and everything else. But on the other hand,

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if you're making a very very important decision. Sometimes you

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have to leave rationality aside and just go into that

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in a space again, whatever you want to call it.

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You can call it your heart or your soul or

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your whatever. I don't think that really matters. But you

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need to be able to take that journey to go within.

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So that's what personal sovereignty is all about.

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Okay.

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And then once you make those decision. In other words,

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and that's why, going back a little bit, why I

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call it a better business. If you think about a business,

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the first thing you've got to do is have a

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business plan. You have some sort of goal or desire

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of a product or service that you want to deliver.

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So in your life, you really need to know where

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you are going, where you want to go. And so

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another one of my favorite sayings is decisions determine destiny.

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Once you've made that decision, once you've decided where you

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want to go, what you want to achieve, you need

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to learn how to do it, how to execute that decision,

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how to bring those decisions onto the plane of reality,

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which is our daily life, which is what we call life.

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And so that's what dar tuning is all about. It's

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that ability to go to generate the wave and then

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ride the wave successfully so that you are not struggling,

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it's not hard, you're not disappointed, you're not failing. In

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other words, now I'm not saying that, and so I

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don't know do you know the term ikey guy?

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No? No, could you explain to the audience what that is?

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Okay? So it's very related to the concept of flow,

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which means that their needs so for flow to occur.

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in executive mentoring, in life coaching, of being in the zone,

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being in the flow, getting in the flow, being in

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that space, and so da tuning is the art of flow.

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we don't just want to be in that zone of

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flow in occasional peak experiences of rock climbing or you know,

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when we're in that very very elite sports situation. I

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believe that it should be our natural state of life.

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in that zone of flow as possible. So we need

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to understand the requirements of how do we get there?

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to focus on what you're doing. Second, you need to

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be doing something that is just a little bit beyond

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your grasp. It has to be in that Goldilocks zone

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of not being too easy because the brain just then

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turns off and goes into boredom. It also can't be

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unattainable because then you're not you don't feel like you're

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going to achieve it. So it's like you're just striving

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for that extra little bit of personal best. You know,

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I want to improve myself a little bit each time

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to get to that next point, to that next point.

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a better version of who I am. It's got nothing

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to do with anybody else. I'm not comparing myself to

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anybody else. I'm just comparing myself to yesterday. So if

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I'm doing a podcast, for example, with you, I want

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it to be better than the one I may have

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done yesterday, or whatever we're doing if we're cooking, you know,

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we just want to be able to do it at

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that little bit better. So they're the requirements of being

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in the flow, and the third one is doing something

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that you love, something that you're passionate about, something that

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you belie leave in something that's important to you. If

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you have those three ingredients, then then you can be

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a flow to propel your life and yourself to a

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As not always easy for people, no.

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just given you a three minute summary and look it's Doug.

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The reason it's not easy is because these concepts run

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one hundred contrary two. And that's why I call it

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a paradigm shift. And I better just briefly explain what

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a paradigm is. So if you think of a fish

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in water or us in air, we're not really aware

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of the air, but you're very aware of it if

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it if it's taken away from you. So a paradigm

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is a belief system with in which we live. Every

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single human being lives within a paradigm. We also have

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collective paradigms. We all basically live in the Western worldview,

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and so that is a belief system, a set of

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beliefs that we are brought up. And again it doesn't

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really matter which religion or morality or even country or society.

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You're an America, I'm in Australia, but we're all part

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of the West, you know. And that Western paradigm actually

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started back in the Greeks, through the Roman Empire, through

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the Judeo Christian ethic, all the way now through to

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you know the world that we live in, which is

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probably dominated by the United States and you know, the

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Great American Dream. But fundamentally it hasn't really changed that

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much in two and a half thousand years. It's a

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collective paradigm, okay, okay, just to finish, and that paradigm

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runs contrary to the beliefs of the system of flow.

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That's why it's hard, okay.

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And it runs contrary because as you talk about as

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you talk about Tao tuning, I'm assuming that that's more

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of an Eastern Asian.

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And and and it's interesting as I as I talk

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to different people, that seems to come up a lot

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as we start talking about quality of life and those

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type of things. Now, I just I spent nine months

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in Thailand. I'm heading back in a month, okay, And

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so it's it's fascinating to me in fact, coming back

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to the US has been really uncomfortable just because of

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the attitude and as you say, that paradigm of thought prowers.

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That's what I'm talking about. They have a totally different

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worldview they have it's a much more gentle, flowing, gracious

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you know, whereas Western we're much more rah rah got

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to do this, you know, we're very But let me

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just digress for a minute and go back to that

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point you made. That. It's so basically what I do

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in tuning is to show not only is it an

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ancient Eastern concept, the dah, but nuclear physics. You know,

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all from from Einstein to you know, all of the

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nuclear physicists arrive at that same conclusion. So it's not

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just an Eastern concept or religion or philosophy or world view.

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It is now a very Western, mainstream nuclear physics reality

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of the way we now understand how the world works.

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For example, we believe in the solidity. You're sitting on

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a chair, I'm sitting on a chair, but we know

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that ninety nine point nine percent of that is empty

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space because of nuclear physics. We also know that going

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back to what I was talking about with the Greeks,

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is that they wanted to find the atom, this indivisible

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particle that was the building block of matter, that everything

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you know, they had to be this adam Again, nuclear

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physics has proven that there is no atom, that there

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are actually probability waves you know, of particles and waves

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and photons, so it's a very very different reality. The

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third thing that nuclear physics has proven is and this

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is why they have double blind experiments, is that the

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attitude of the scientists will influence the outcome of the experiment,

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meaning that there is this connectedness between the observer and

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the observed. Now, as you say, all of these things

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are ancient Eastern philosophies and beliefs. Now they haven't infiltrated

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Western paradigm, but they are cutting edge Western science. And

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that is my point in our tuning, is that we

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need to adapt our philosophy, We need to adapt our religion.

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We need to adapt our cosmology to what we're discovering

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in science, not to what the Bible said five thousand

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years ago, or you know, a religion that's outdated because

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it is no longer appropriate to what we know. The

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mere fact that you and I can sit here and

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talk from Australia to America is due to the fact

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that we have discovered electromagnetic energy. We now know how

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to use it via the internet, via our smartphones, via

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everything that we do, fossil fuels, cars, you know, solar energy.

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We learn these things and our lives of one hundred

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percent radically changed in the last what fifty years, But

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our ideology, the way we live, what we believe in,

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hasn't kept pace with that technological and scientific discovery.

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What what is brothers about?

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I mean, you know, it's fascinating that I look at

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I look at present time here in America, okay, and

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everything that's going on, and I look a number of

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years ago where that wasn't even a part of our society.

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And I don't know what you're experiencing over there in

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Australia may or may not be similar.

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But what brought us about?

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What brought about the changes where we went from kindness

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and love and concern to fighting and anger and all

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of this stuff that's going on.

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Well, that that is the question. And as I said,

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I have devoted my life to understanding why and how

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this came about. And I guess I was a little

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prophetic and early in seeing that this was happening and

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that you talk about the Temple of Understanding, which is

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the name of the trilogy, and that's what I call it,

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the Temple of Understanding, because what my argument is is

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that we live within a gross misunderstanding. We have it.

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So who we are as human beings is not who

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we have been brought up to believe we are. We

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are fundamentally completely different, and that is why we need

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to go back to what I what I call the

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atomistic paradigm, because the atom was an indivisible particle of matter.

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Human beings in the Western paradigm live as we are

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completely separate. I am separate from you, and it's a

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zero sum game. So if I'm going to win, you've

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got to lose. There's not enough, there's a scarcity of resources.

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I've got to take from you. So it's a very

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selfish world because of this belief in separation, because of

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this belief that we are Do you know that the

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number one pandemic, this has been declared officially by who,

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The number one pandemic in the Western world is loneliness

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and depression. Now, we live in the most affluent society

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that has ever existed. We are the most interconnected society

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that has ever existed, and yet this is a pandemic

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throughout the Western world where people feel lonely, alone, isolated, alienated.

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If you look at all of the problems, I mean,

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let's look at America for a minute. But as you say,

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it's pretty much the same everywhere. But all of these

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are merely symptoms of neurosis. You know, what motivates a

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person to go out and just kill randomly, What motivates

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a person to you know, be a terrorist? What motivates

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at the opposite end of the spectrum, you know, bankers

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and Wall Street people to you know, do these incredible things.

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What motivates people to want to try and control and

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dominate a whole population, like what's going on right now

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in America. I mean, it is purely this neurotic need

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for what I say, more is never enough. I mean,

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you hear about these billionaires. I'm not going to mention

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any names who get upset because you know they've already

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got a couple of hundred billion dollars, but they lose

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one or two and they get very upset. So my

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saying is more is never enough. If you need more money,

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It will never be enough if you need more approval.

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And so if you look at, for example, the celebrity world,

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how many celebrities who experience incredible success commit suicide or

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on drugs, substance abuse, sexual abuse, whatever. So if you

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are addicted to any of those things which can be famed,

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can be fortune, can be money, can be power, whatever

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it is, it doesn't really matter. More is never going

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to be enough because like any drug, the more you have,

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the more you're going to need for your next fix.

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So the reason, sorry to answer your question that it

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is all falling apart is because the paradigm is wrong,

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and that's why I'm calling it. It's a misunderstanding of

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who we are as human beings, which really we are

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one family, we are one species. We are all connected,

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and we need to be connected to the earth, We

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need to be connected to nature, we need to be

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connected to animals, and understand that all life is sacred,

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every life form is sacred. So it's not only that

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this atimistic sense of separation separates us from each other,

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but it also separates us from our lives, as we

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were talking about before. So most people don't have a

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holistic relationship with their own life. They don't have a

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holistic relationship with life in general, meaning the planet Earth,

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the species of humanity. They don't have a relationship with

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with Geia, the Earth. They don't have a you know,

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so we're not we're not integrated, we're not connected, We're

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not We don't seem to have that ability to to embrace,

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you know, and I'm not I'm not talking about a

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physical embrace. I'm talking about to As you said before,

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we've lost that ability to be kind, We've lost that

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ability to to love. And I personally, I don't like

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using the word love because I think it's been bastardized

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so much that you know, you talk about love and people.

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But the end of the day, love is incredibly important

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and love does not have to be romantic. Love does

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not even need to be for another being or another person.

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Love should just be an expression of who I am.

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You know, going back to what we were talking about

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at the very beginning. We need to love our work.

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We need to love our business. We need to love

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getting up in the morning and what are we going

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to do. I need to love talking to you. You

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need to love talking to me. You know what I

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mean that you've got to have that fire and passion

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and enjoyment. And I think maybe that's what's happened, that

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maybe a lot of people have lost that sense of purpose,

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that sense of meaning, that sense of fulfillment, and so

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they're empty. And because they're empty, they're looking for something

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to fill this emptiness, which usually is some neurotic pursuit

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rather than a holistic pursuit.

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So what do we do?

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You've done very well in explaining whether problem is and

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so on and so forth, But the question is what

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do we do to turn this whole thing around?

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Well, I say exactly that, just turn around, Just turn around,

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because we are so much on this treadmill. And now

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I am talking going back to what you were talking

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about before time, where we're really talking about the Western paradigm. Here,

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we are so much on this treadmill of go, go, go,

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go go, that we just don't have time. I mean,

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it's that old saying stop and smell the roses. And

465
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:21.799
I was writing quite recently something about this, and I said, look,

466
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.519
just the answer to this question. What the question was,

467
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.039
you know, in very simple, easy terms, what's the one

468
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.440
thing people can do? And my answer was turn around.

469
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:38.519
Literally turn around. So I'm saying, stop and enjoy that

470
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.519
morning coffee. You might be walking to work, Stop and

471
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.799
enjoy for a minute. Maybe before you leave, gaze into

472
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:47.759
the face of a loved one, whether it's a child

473
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.720
or a parent, or a spouse or whatever. It doesn't

474
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.400
really matter. Just take that and look, it doesn't need

475
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.359
I think the basic problem, as I said at the

476
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:01.599
very beginning, is that we've separated spirituality and reality. You know,

477
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:05.240
I'll get to the spirituality when my life works, you know,

478
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.240
no worry about my all of that stuff. When no,

479
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.079
you've got to do it the other way around, you know.

480
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.680
So it's like if you don't have time to just

481
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:21.799
enjoy your life. So one of my favorite techniques, you know, yeah,

482
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.480
if you see a flower, stop for ten seconds and

483
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.599
take a really deep breath. Don't just smell it for

484
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:35.519
a second, you know, take that you breathing. So meditation,

485
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:41.400
to me is not a spiritual exercise. It's a neurological exercise.

486
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.279
It's a health thing. So it's we need to turn around,

487
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.200
we need to stop, we need to just say, look,

488
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.599
I still want to be successful. I'm still going to

489
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.720
have my to do list. I'm still going to have

490
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.200
I still work, you know, twelve to forty hours every

491
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:01.000
day of my life. But I'm make sure that there

492
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:05.319
are many many pauses. I make sure that I consciously,

493
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.680
many times a day, go what am I doing? Okay,

494
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.160
I'm talking, So I'm going to focus on that, or

495
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.960
I need to just sit. And when I say it's

496
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.680
just sit, sit, look, I'll give you what I think

497
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.720
what is the easiest and most essential exercise, and that

498
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:25.759
is to just sit and look at something. Now. Right now,

499
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.319
I'm looking not at you. I'm looking out because it's

500
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:31.799
just dawn. So I just focus on a tree. As

501
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.119
I said before, I live in the most beautiful garden

502
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.359
that I have created, and I will do this every dawn,

503
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.599
every dusk. Is what I call a mindfulness walk. So

504
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:44.200
I'm not going out there to look at all the

505
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.440
things I've got to do. I don't let myself do that.

506
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.400
I'm not going to get upset about all the things

507
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.480
that you know, I roll. I am just going to

508
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.400
enjoy that moment and I'm going to stop and look

509
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.759
at and focus at a flower, or focus at a tree,

510
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:02.839
or focus on a branch, and really just stop and focus. Now,

511
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.680
we don't need going back to meditation. You don't need

512
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:07.160
to do that for half an hour. You don't need

513
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.359
to sit with your legs crossed, you don't need to chant,

514
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.880
you don't need to pray, you don't need to do

515
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.240
any of that. But you do need to say I'm going.

516
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.240
To stop you. I'm going to stop you. You just froze.

517
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:19.960
So would you repeat what you were saying because you

518
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.079
just froze for just a couple of seconds.

519
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.759
Okay, So you need to be able to stop and

520
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.559
just focus with your vision and just to absorb to

521
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.880
taking that moment. So I think to probably answer your

522
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:41.000
question in a nutshell is be here now what I

523
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.640
call being now. So get off the treadmill, get off

524
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.200
the time trajectory of I'm going somewhere. I've got people

525
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.359
to go, places to meet, you'll that stuff, you know,

526
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:57.519
and I just need to practice the discipline of being now.

527
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:01.799
What is happening right now in my life, what is

528
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.599
in front of me? Watch it, focus on it, observe it,

529
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:06.920
and be present.

530
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:07.960
Okay.

531
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.400
So I'm getting the impression that you're not real favorable

532
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:20.079
towards meditation. I happen to be very very favorable about meditation.

533
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.079
You mean Okay, so explain a little bit more about

534
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:23.759
what you were saying.

535
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:29.799
Okay, No, if I think meditation is that's absolutely essential.

536
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.480
I'm not against meditation. What I'm saying is that people don't.

537
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.440
I want people to see meditation as an ass essential

538
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.119
as breathing. So what I'm saying is that a lot

539
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.480
of people reject meditation because they see it as an

540
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:50.880
Eastern religious tradition, whereas I'm saying, meditation is as as

541
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.960
as I said, it's important as breathing. One needs to

542
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.480
meditate because meditating is emptying the mind. It's stopping, it's

543
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.799
slowing down, it's getting to that piece and to that

544
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.119
inner state of consciousness where the mind what I call

545
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.079
the Yama yama of the mind, is not racing. No,

546
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.640
I've been meditating every day for over fifty years.

547
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:17.160
Well, and now Western science is catching up with Eastern

548
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:24.039
concepts because definitely now they are showing scientifically the incredible

549
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:28.119
value of meditation and how it literally is not only

550
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:33.960
affecting our mental health, but it's also affecting our physical health.

551
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.839
And they're showing how meditation can literally help to heal

552
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.599
physical ailments. And it's amazing to me to see that,

553
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.759
and yet it's there and it's real. And so when

554
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.880
we talk about, you know, making a change, how do

555
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.839
we I mean, you have this whole focus here, but

556
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.160
how on earth are we going to see a change

557
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.599
take place on the level that we're going to see

558
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.320
a different paradigm come into place again and perhaps an

559
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.719
original paradigm that somehow we lost.

560
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.719
Okay, well, will two things. Let me just go finish

561
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.159
on what you were just saying there about meditation. Now,

562
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.480
the other thing that I find really interesting about meditation

563
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.719
is that we all experience problems. You know, we want

564
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.880
to achieve something, we hit a challenge or a roadblock

565
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.360
or an adversity, and we need to come to terms

566
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.199
with it now most of us, or again, the Western

567
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.559
paradigm will be Okay, sit down, do your pros and

568
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.199
cons think about it, blah blah blah. I believe that

569
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.719
you've got to go into meditation. You've got to silence

570
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.480
the mind, you've got to stop thinking, and you've got

571
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.199
to go into them. Because the other bit about meditation

572
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:54.559
that isn't emphasized enough is that it is this route

573
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.159
into the core of your being. If you're in your mind,

574
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.519
if you're thinking, that's where you are. You're up in

575
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.000
your mind. But via meditation, when you stop the mind,

576
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.199
you can go to a whole different place. Yes, true,

577
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.800
and in that space, and this is where I talk

578
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.119
about a lot in our tuning, I call it this space.

579
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:20.440
So in this space you can negotiate and come to

580
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.320
terms with this problem, with this adversity, with it, because

581
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.440
it's just a challenge that you need to understand. And

582
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.079
once in meditation, and I have experienced this so many

583
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.960
times in my life, not only do we become calm,

584
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.920
not only do we get out of the agitation and

585
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.519
the restlessness and the amayama and all of anxiety, we

586
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.960
also once we get to that calmness, we seem to

587
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.559
be able to see the problem differently. In other words,

588
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.159
we arrive at a different space, at a different perspective,

589
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:01.599
at a different attitude, and in that space, the world changes,

590
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:08.599
Our world changes, and miraculously the next day, probably the

591
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.480
next morning, and quite often this will happen to me

592
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.000
if I'm really concerned about something. Normally I'll meditate at

593
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.199
dawn every morning, but sometimes if I'm really I might

594
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:18.679
wake up in the middle of the night have to

595
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.159
go into this very very very deep space, and it's

596
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:26.719
almost like engineering. You are rewiring the world in meditation,

597
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.079
and I know when I get there and all of

598
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.239
a sudden, I just know the next morning the universe

599
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:37.679
is going to somehow fix it. So meditation is also

600
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:44.199
an unbelievable tool to make your life right. Does that

601
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:45.239
make sense too?

602
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:45.679
Yes?

603
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.239
And I think as we make our lives right, I

604
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:52.119
really believe it's one at a time, but ultimately that's

605
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.400
going to affect other people and they'll start to make

606
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.920
their lives right. And in the short minutes that we

607
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:02.039
have left, you've created a garden. Mentioned it briefly, but

608
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.760
you're in a mountainous area and you say you have

609
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.840
created literally a garden.

610
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.239
Well, it's more than a garden. And for me, it

611
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:19.599
is a working demonstration. And this might also answer your

612
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.159
last question of you know, how do we do this

613
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.519
or where do we go? For me, it's a working

614
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:29.559
demonstration of the way that I believe humans need to live.

615
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.199
To go back to the very beginning of this conversation,

616
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.280
and how do you ask the question before, how did

617
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.280
we end up where we are now with all of

618
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.880
this unkindness and violence and war and all the things

619
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:45.960
that are you know, a thirty four trillion dollar debt.

620
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.400
I mean, there is no country that can exist. We

621
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.039
all know we cannot live beyond our means. You are

622
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:56.639
the wealthiest country ever, wealthiest empire that has ever existed

623
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.639
on the face of the planet, and yet you have

624
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.599
a third four trillion dollar debt. That's another aspect of

625
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:09.519
this neurotic consciousness, living beyond its means, on this treadmill,

626
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.000
where we just have to have more. We have to

627
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.599
have more, We have to have more. You know what, like, no,

628
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:18.920
you can't anyway. Sorry, So for me, the garden is

629
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:23.519
a practical, working demonstration of the way we need to

630
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:29.639
live because we got lost in the industrial revolution, urbanization,

631
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:35.360
moving to the cities, becoming disassociated from nature and the seasons.

632
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:37.800
And you know, children don't know where eggs come from. People,

633
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.239
children don't you know. We are so people who live

634
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.079
in high rise are so disassociated from the reality of

635
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.719
the earth, from life that we are completely divorced. Now

636
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.800
we need to go back to nature. I don't care

637
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.800
if that's walking in a park. I don't care if

638
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:55.880
you've got a pot plant on your veranda in your

639
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.360
high rise. I don't care if you've got you know,

640
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.760
whatever you've got. I mean, this is an extreme experiment,

641
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.000
but I also it's not just a garden, it's an ecosystem.

642
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.519
I wanted to demonstrate that in fifty years we could

643
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.599
regenerate the planet, and that's what I've done. I've been

644
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.960
planning this garden now for fifty years. As I said,

645
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.559
it was a bare dead paddock when I started. Don't

646
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:20.760
if you know what a paddock is in Australian mean

647
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.239
system had two cars on it which had trampled. It

648
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.199
was dead, it was sleeping here. Now it has got beautiful.

649
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.400
So it's not just a garden, it's an ecosystem. And

650
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.880
I personally feel very, very connected to it. So I

651
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.000
now understand that Aboriginal which is not just Australian Aborigines,

652
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:46.599
all of the ethnic cultures that we exterminated had this

653
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.719
sense of belonging to the land, of a sense of

654
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.519
peace with the land, a sense of connection with the land,

655
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.599
and so they didn't plute. They didn't I mean, many

656
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.800
of these societies didn't even have words for murder and

657
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.800
rape because they just didn't do it. Because they understood

658
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.400
that they were a tribe. They understood that the health

659
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.679
and wellness of one being depended on the tribe and

660
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:12.280
vice versa. So it's a very very different paradigm, and

661
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:16.000
that's what I'm trying to demonstrate. Not everybody needs to

662
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:18.000
have a Tennacer garden like I do. I mean, I

663
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.599
have to work, but I love it. But I think

664
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:24.960
every single human being needs to find their own path

665
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.440
back into nature because nature will be the healer. Nature

666
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:35.039
will help us to come back to this sanity and

667
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.239
love and beauty. I mean, if you walk in nature,

668
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:41.199
you just feel relaxed, you feel happy. You can't help

669
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:45.760
but feel grateful, because as soon as you perceive the beauty,

670
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:54.480
gratitude arises spontaneously. And when you're in that state of grace, gratitude, graciousness,

671
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.400
you don't want to kill, you don't want to rob,

672
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.400
you don't want to rape, you don't want to you

673
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.400
don't want to do anybody injury because you're basically happy

674
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:08.119
and content within yourself and very grateful that you're alive.

675
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.519
So you have this very precious, sacred relationship with life.

676
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.280
And so for me, I think to just conclude the

677
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.519
number one principal law, whatever you want to call it,

678
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.000
is do not injure you know, live your life as

679
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:31.079
much as you can without intentional injury. Now, we all,

680
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.719
I believe we all have a very intrinsic sense of

681
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.519
right and wrong. We know when we're doing the right thing,

682
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:41.199
we know we're doing the wrong thing, you know, but

683
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.920
it sometimes takes a bit of guts and courage to go, no,

684
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.280
I'm going to do the right thing. That might be apologizing,

685
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.159
That might be making amends for something that you have

686
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.639
unintentionally or inadvertently done wrong. But you've got to make

687
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.800
it right, you know. Sometimes it's you've got to be generous,

688
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.320
or you've got to be loving, or you've got to

689
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.960
be kind, or you've got to help that you know.

690
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.360
Some there's a nobility like my last blog which was

691
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.880
actually about the American presidential race that's going on at

692
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.440
the moment, so you might find it interesting. And so

693
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.760
there were two. The first one was called a nobility

694
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.239
of being, where I am saying that to rule is

695
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.440
to serve, and that really what happened, what you know,

696
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:27.440
to to really be a ruler, you have to genuinely

697
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.760
want to serve the people, you know, And so I

698
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:37.679
called the presidential debate the residential deflat because these two

699
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.440
guys really need to be in residences somewhere where they

700
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.639
can be you know, I mean it was unbelievable. So

701
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:50.159
to me, it epitomized where we are at as humanity.

702
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:55.440
That whole presidential debate in ninety minutes epitomized for me

703
00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:00.880
everything that's wrong. You know, here are two men vying

704
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:07.360
for probably not probably the most important role, job, functionary,

705
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.000
whatever you want to call it on the planet today,

706
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.599
and it was a complete nutter fast and disgrace. So

707
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:20.360
if that's where we're headed, if that's the epitome of humanity, yeah,

708
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:21.840
we're in trouble.

709
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:23.199
Okay.

710
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.480
So as we close, and you've said a lot of things,

711
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and I don't mind you repeating yourself on some of

712
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.119
your ideas, What is the message that you want to

713
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:32.840
share with the eye.

714
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.480
It's just the short message.

715
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:40.679
The shortest message is the oneness of life. We are

716
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:48.559
all interconnected. Human beings or humanity is not separate from life,

717
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.039
is not separate from nature. We are not better than

718
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:58.920
every single life form is sacred. Life is sacred. Life

719
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:03.480
is to be cherished, to be enjoyed, to have fun,

720
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.360
to be successful, to be abundant. It's a gift you know,

721
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.039
And I guess the best example I can use is

722
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.719
somebody gives you a gift, you don't even unwrap it,

723
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.239
and you put aside, you put in your cupboard and

724
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:21.400
you forget about it. Or do you unwrap it? Do

725
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.320
you enjoy you know a little kid? You know, I

726
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.639
can't wait to un wrap it all. Oh wow, you

727
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:31.920
know we we have lost that that exuberance, that fun,

728
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.920
that enjoyment of life. Life is a gift. Enjoy it.

729
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.039
Amen, Amen, Adrian, Thanks so much. This has been fascinating

730
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.719
and it's interesting how here you are on the other

731
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.519
side of the world and yet you're experiencing the same

732
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.039
thing that I'm experiencing.

733
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.440
Over here on this side. And its Yeah, it is amazing.

734
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.920
And I appreciate the fact that you talk about the

735
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.079
fact that this paradigm which where experiencing has got to change,

736
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.320
and hopefully, even if it's one by one, we're able

737
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.719
to do that. So I appreciate everything you've said, folks,

738
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I appreciate you listening, and I hope you've enjoyed this

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and hope you'll join us again soon.