Integrated Ascension Method

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0:44 Denzel Washington, welcome to inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to do the same. Nate Zeleslnik, how are you, Doctor Doug. I'm honored and pleased to be here with you and so many people out there. Hello to everybody who's watching or listening right now. Well, and I'm excited to add it on the show. And as we were talking, I just realized, and we both realized that when I'm in the US, we actually live very close to each other in the same same area, literally five minutes away. Yeah, which is great. So what I'd love for you to do, Nate, is to kind of tell your background story, who you are, what you do, and how you came to the point where you were working with individuals. Yeah.

1:36 So I my story started, My spiritual story, I should say, started when I was around twelve years old, sitting on my father's den with a loaded rifle pressed against my head and growing up in the small valley where we live in Utah, especially in the seventies and eighties, as the only non Mormon kid, I under a lot of fire with abuse from my peers and sometimes even sometimes their parents would also bully me. And so this was something that was almost a daily occurrence for me when I was in school, and sometimes even during summer break. And so I'd had it and I.

2:17 Couldn't take it anymore. I knew it just wasn't going to stop. I wasn't like them. I was the smallest one on my grade and I would be ganged up on a regular basis. And so I was looking to take a permanent exit based upon a temporary problem. And the reason I didn't was I thought of my mom and Dad, and I just couldn't do that to them, no matter how bad it got, I wasn't going to do that to them, and so I put the rifle away, unloaded it, and they never found out. But that night is when I had my very first out of body experience for my first astral projection. And I had no idea.

2:57 What this was. I just knew that I was seeing my body while it was asleep, and I wasn't asleep. And then it kept happening, Dot Doug. It kept happening on not a nightly basis, but at least a couple times a week, and I really credit my higher self with saving me from myself. And I became absolutely obsessed with what is real because I wasn't religious, I wasn't born brought up in a religious household. I wasn't even brought up in a particularly spiritual household at all, and yet these things were happening and I didn't know what to make of it. So when I was sixteen and I could actually drive and get my own money, and while other boys were off trying to buy things to unpress girls or getting a new car, I was buying things like HEMI sync audio tapes that were by neuro brainwaven trainment tracks, or books on the out of body experience, or books on the CIA Stargate program where they would use remote viewing to spy on the so during the Cold War from thousands of miles away accurately in a lot of cases, to find out what was really happening. And so I really went down the deck with the rabbit hole of the woo woo everything from witchcraft and magic to tarot cards too. I just wanted to find out without saying this is real, asking those questions that are most important is why am I here? How did I get here?

4:25 What am I supposed to actually be doing? And what happens when we're not here anymore? Those big questions from a young age. And when I was twenty three years old, after training in martial arts and bodybuilding and doing all kinds of spiritual adventures and different trainings, well, I had a sinker destiny that changed my life forever, and it really set me on this life path that I'm on now. And I ordered a course out a black Belt magazine and it guaranteed me inner power in two weeks or I could get my money back. So I was like, yes, running back guarantee on instant Chi, I want that, And I got this, And it came with this chinsey little manual that had like stick figures drawn in there that was completely bogus, but it came with a VHS videotape that showed Indonesian martial artists. Now I trained in Japanese martial arts and Chinese martial arts, but I'd never thought about Indonesia as having martial arts at all. And I found out that they have over seven hundred different systems there and that it's a huge cultural heritage for them. Well, what these people were able to do not only this beautiful type of movement in combat that I'd never seen before, but also they were not breaking little boards, they were breaking stacks of steel bars, barely touching them, and I thought that was pretty cool. And then it showed people who could literally see without using their eyes. And I'm not talking about some basic things. I'm talking about riding

5:58 motorcycles and driving cars through traffic in Jakarta, or military people who could fight full contact bare knuckles with hoods over their heads, and they could even shoot targets out of people's hands when they couldn't see, and it showed some blind people, and these blind people could read printed material and their eyes were white as a sheet, and I thought I was really skeptical. Honestly, I thought it was BS. But I'd also had all these different out of body experiences and read about so many things in the realm of SI that is beyond the physical five senses, that I was thinking, maybe Jedis are really real. And that night I went to bed, and the next day, on my way to work, I drove by the Utah Schools for the Death and the Blind in Ogden, and I watched a blind lady almost die in front of me trying to cross the street with her dog. That the dog led her straight into the light pole. And I thought to myself, right there, I have to find those Indonesian people to help her out, to see if they can help her. And that set me on a course, doctor Doug where I went to the Weaver County Library up here and I searched for two weeks. I finally found those people. I reached out to them, and then I was able to sponsor the very first demonstration of this art in America at Weaber State University. Also, you just goes for the death and the blind and even for the Indonesian embassy and the ambassador in Washington, d C. Now,

7:31 the name of this art is called Marpati Puti. Now Marpati Puti sounds funny in English, but in sorry, in the Indonesian language, it means white dove. So it's the symbol of peace and justice for humanity in a martial art, which I thought was really cool because most martial arts are like red tiger or black dragon. They are kind of an aggressive fighting style type of animal. And here you have the white dove, and it turns out that it is one of the most well, the full martial art is one of the most brutal systems I've ever seen, and it's it deserves its place in the pantheon of kick your butt martial arts, really up there. And so you know, I brought them over here and I got to see for myself blind people who could do anything you or I take for granted that we could do with our eyesight, and more and more than we can do with eyesight. And they had never allowed a non Indonesian person to learn this in history. Ever, in five hundred years, it was kept within the Royal Family of Java, and then in nineteen sixty three release to the Indonesian people during what is called the Indonesian Genocide where the government of Indonesia killed over six hundred thousand people.

8:48 Wow in six months. I mean, we can't even imagine what that would be like. And they released it to help people defend themselves but also understand spiritually, we're all the same, We're all one being, and we're just having different experiences through the lens of consciousness. And if I hurt you, I hurt myself. So it was really to bring the country of Indonesia together. Well, fast forward to nineteen ninety nine when I brought this team over here, when they saw what I was willing to do to help them get a foothold here to bring this art to help humanity. The eleventh generation Royal Airs. They gave the chairman of the organization who was in my house, gave him authorization to have be trained and they're just so happened, just so happened to be a former Special Forces trainer, former Patipouti, which just as an aside wher Pattipooti is standard training for every branch of the Indonesian normal forces for the past fifty years. Wow, yeah, including their special forces. And now because this breath work, in this meditation, this fitness system, this energetic healing, this century fareness expansion is so effective so quickly. That's why the military forces used it. But they had never let a non Indonesian person learn it and till me and I started training with this gentleman the same well the week after they left and went back home, and then a few weeks later one of my younger brothers joined me,

10:19 and together the two of us were able to advance through the ranks faster than anyone who was allowed to before, put on a very aggressive training regiment similar to those special forces training, and then we became the very first non Indonesian more Patiputi members on December thirty first. Nineteen ninety nine. So in y two K when everybody was worried about their systems crashing, we were worried about our system crashing, and so we became authorized fall members. And then over the next twenty years we've been to Indonesian numerous times for long training and testing sabbaticals. We owned one of the largest martial arts and meditation academies in the country. Here ogden utuckle to where we are or where we're in your house is exactly And you know, we were able to do things that no one in history had ever been able to do or been allowed to do.

11:12 And then COVID came along, and COVID really decimated the martial arts industry. I mean, over seventy eight hundred different martial arts schools closed in the US permanently during COVID. Ours was one of those, and so we pivoted to a seminar format and we were training just the blindfold skill. And then a couple of years ago, my heart was really calling for me to expand beyond just this, because as cool as it is to see without your eyes, what is really the utility of it? If you're not healthy, and if you're not actually spiritually advancing yourself, it becomes a parlor trick. And I've wanted more. I wanted to help. People more than that, and so now with my integrated ascension method, what I do is I help individuals as well as businesses and athletic organizations and basically people with lungs and people who have a body they don't I can't really help, but it's people who want to really find out more of who they really aren't embody a deep practice spiritually that is not denominational, it's non sectarian, it's not belief based. It's based upon experience and knowledge, because belief is a poor substitute for knowledge. And so I don't subscribe to belief in many things at all, other than believe that you can experience that you're here to experience. It's ongoing, you can't shut it off, and everything changes those.

12:36 It's interesting that you talk about, you know, avoiding the religion part of it. What I found here is as i'm here, I've really enjoyed studying Buddhism. And one of the more recent things that I looked at was, you know, why why did Buddha not believe in God? And there's a lot of reasons for that, but the whole point came across was that he was teaching the people here how to become the best that they could become in the circumstances that exist here in Asia. And you know, it's interesting to see what has happened because his original teachings have then become taken by individuals and now there's I think over three four five different Buddhist religions, and they all differ a little bit from each other. And so when we look at the reality of eternal truths, okay, and what you're talking about, you refer to it as spirituality.

13:41 You know who we are. You take that, and all of a sudden, religion has adapted that to various religious organizations and so forth, and for the good for the most part. But as you say in your particular case, which is so unfortunate in Utah, you started to become bullied because you were not part of that major religion there, and that's most unfortunate. But what I love is the fact that you're talking about how we can become the best that we are and actually who we are from an eternal perspective, from a spiritual perspective, without getting into all of that other part, which can be very important for people. But our discussion is going to take it away from there and say, all right, folks, become who you can become. And I love the integrated ascension. I love that whole you know concept and how you describe that.

14:41 So let's talk about that a little bit, because not all of us, I mean, when I was first thinking about talking to you is like, you know what, I can't do martial arts. My shoulders are shot, my knees are shot. There is no way. But as I was reading more talking about the meditation, the the insights that you can gain through that, and particularly it just amazes me that people have gotten to the point that they can see when they're blind and what that would really entail for individuals to see themselves when they're not physically blind, but emotionally and intelligently, sometimes they are blind to who they are and what they can actually accomplish. So let's talk.

15:28 Let's talk a little bit about that as far as what is that integrated ascension and how do you become that higher self that you truly are, and how do you actually come to that realization that who you think you are and who your parents have told you and everybody else externally is not who you really are spiritually. I often think, doctor Doug that when I see parents that are brewerting their young kids, I keep thinking of myself, well, but on a spiritual level, maybe they are much more ancient than you. They're just in a small body. M Yeah, I always think that's interesting to think, you know, you're talking to an immortal, unlimited, eternal being that happens to be you know, have poopy diapers because that's what their body is doing right now, but the real them that's internal, so so are you. So it's kind of interesting. But that's also a different perspective than I think a lot of parents have. And I've also never had children myself who have colic and are crying all night, so.

16:34 I don't know about that, all right, So I've had I have four, So there you go. So the integrated ascension method the reason I created this. As I mentioned, I loved what I did before, but I don't teach martial arts anymore. I've kicked enough people in the face. I don't need to keep doing that anymore. And the thing is that the more putti pooti. Martial art is so diverse that it has five different fat five different elements. The first one is fighting, then forms. So once I take those two out, we have the three other internal aspects, which are internal energy generation or taking the iron in our blood and magnetizing it, so we have a greater electric, electromagnetic or a biomagnetic charge, which we can measure with some equipment. Now, and doing that quickly through very specific intermittent hypoxic breath works, So holding our breath. It's not the hyper breath work a lot of people are familiar with, like whim haw for holotropic breath where they hyperventilate and have visions. This is specifically for creating health in the body by raising our CO two level, by releasing what are called hope molecules, which are what are released from our muscles every time we flex our muscles, and using this to create a very interesting chemical and it's an interesting experience that is not like anything else that you'll ever experience.

17:58 So okay, I want to stop you right there because I want to talk about that a little bit. So there's three things we're going to talk about in the their future. But so you talk about breathwork. I just interviewed someone who had that hyper ventilation where and they they told me, you know, you don't do it on your own. You need a little bit of guidance because, as you say, when you do that, you can get to a point where you know you're not really in control of what's going on. And people talk about different types of breath work, so you're talking about a very specific one. And if I recall what you said, you're talking about how you do hold your breath? Can you can you go into that a little bit more and talk about what that is and how an individual does it and what's the outcome of that.

18:42 Sure, So similar to what they were talking about, it's important to have guidance. So I like, I have online courses and people can also do online zoom courses with me so that I can make sure to monitor them so when we hold our breath. And this is now just so this is kind of an a site, we'll put a pin in that come right back. In twenty nine, the Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology was one by a doctor named Gregory Samenza and a team who we're talking about the benefits of hypoxic work and how that can actually help reduce our cancer and helps with diabetes. There are numerous things that hypoxic work when it's done in an intermittent fashion helps. If it's a chronic fashion, well then. You're just starting.

19:22 You're depriving yourself of oxygen and you're not able to function. Right. If you go to twenty nine thousand feet you get hypoxia. It's not good for your body. But when we do it in a specific way, either through breathwork or through carbon dioxide therapy, what happens is we raise the CO two level in our body, so we have more carbon dioxide, which is the catalyst for allowing red blood cells to be released from the hemoglobin in the blood. If you hyperventilate, your body thinks you're doing something fatal to it, so your blood vessels in your brain constrict, you have your kidneys, have to flush your body with bicarbonate to help lower the because you get so acidic. And this is all normal things that happen for our body to be able to keep us alive. Well, this kind of breath work that I do, the integrated ascension method is based upon a different kind of chemical process where we hold our breath, we raise our COEO two level, but we keep our oxygen the level high, so we basically supercharge our entire system.

20:25 And as we know, with most cancers, they're anaerobic. They do not like a high oxygen environment, right, But so many people, if they hyperventilate, they're still not getting oxygen because they're creatoring their CO two, so they don't have the catalyst to release oxygen. So kind of like walking around with a million dollars in a briefcase and not being able to get the money out. That's what happens a lot of the time when people do that. And now there are people that are having really negative health effects from that hyperventilation type of thing, including some deaths, And so this is an important thing to do it while we are being monitored by somebody who knows what to look for and has done it themselves, not a weekend warrior who did one class and what workshopp and is like I could teach this now. I mean, people who have been in the trenches have hat a lot of people who know what's happening physiologically, but also what can happen emotionally and mentally when we start to have cathartic release because energy emotion, emotion. As we start to move our energy, we start to move our emotion.

21:25 And Okay, so I'm curious and you may not want to talk about it, but how do you do that? You know, and I've read different types of processes on that where you hold up for eight seconds and then you release, and you know, there's all those type of things. What is your methodology and how does that work. Yeah, So, without going to too much into the secret sauce because those are available on my courses, but imagine holding your breath for as long as you possibly can. Like some people it's five seconds, some people it's forty five seconds, while you're moving your body in specific ways to activate different energetic pathways in the body, while you're having very specific mental focuses of your energy of your mind in order to direct your energy for certain purposes.

22:15 Whether that's seen. Without your eyes, that's as remote viewing. Maybe it's considering that we have over thirty three million people with asthma in this country. It's reducing your asthma symptoms, which we had at least ninety five percent without getting too FDA violating there, but we've had at least percent of people report that they no longer have asthma after just a couple of months of this training. So when we do this holding our breath for as long as we can, while tensing our muscles as hard as we can, while moving our body in very certain ways, while we're also using our mind to have very specific focus, we step into the realm of what some would call superhuman and I like to call future human because it's something that we can do, it's natural that we can do. We're not we're not irradiating people and making it.

23:07 An incredible hulk. This is something so I can't explain the entire thing because it takes a long time to actually learn this. And that's why it's important to have like home study courses or online training or me personally working with people, whether that's at their home or whether it's online, whether it's in a organization setting. But that's the basic crux of it. It's there's no other breathwork system like it that I have ever seen. And I've been in this game for about twenty five years now, so. Okay, my curiosity such that I'm going to come online later on and take a look at what you're talking about. But I appreciate and folks need to realize. You know, you're not a physician. I'm I'm a dentist. I'm not a physician, so we're not talking about any medical thing.

23:51 And again, for people that are listening, make sure you check with your physician before you ever get involved in any of this stuff. Now, I smile because I use a c PAP, all right, And and I'm thinking, you know, you're telling they talk about how if you've got some problems in that way you you know, you can have all sorts of issues. And yet when I was listening to you, I'm thinking, Okay, so if I stop in the middle of the night breathing, then that's probably good. No. So yeah, so that's interesting. So there's an interesting I would say it's an epidemic, really, doctor Doug. So we know sleep apnea is bad for us, right, it can lead to heart disease, all kinds of bad things.

24:34 But there's another phenomenon now, it's a recent one called email apnea. Have you ever heard of that? No? So, email apnea is when people have their phone out and they're sitting there and they're holding their breath while they're swiping and they're watching cat videos. They're actually as fixating themselves and having like sleep apnea while they're wide awake because they're into their phone or into their emails. And so that's why I encourage people on as many of the most regular basis you possibly can all day long, ask yourself where am I? Because the answer is always here, no matter what and what time is it. Those two questions where am I? And what time is it? And here's why when we ask ourselves, where am I, it's always here? What time is it? It's always now.

25:19 That brings us into present awareness, into our body. Speaking of Buddhism, as you mentioned before, the famous Buddhist scholar Tiknot Hunt, he would talk sometimes about an out of body experience, not like the kind that I had when I was a child and still to this day sometimes have, But he was talking about the out of body experience where your mind is somewhere else than in your body. You're thinking about something you regret in the past that you cannot change, or something you loved in the past that you still cannot change, or something in the future that hasn't happened yet. But you're not here in this moment. You're having an out of body experience with your mind. And so to help remind people coming back to the present, where am I?

26:04 And what time is? It? Reminds us to breathe and will realize that we have been breathing shallowly. We've also probably for most people, they find themselves breathing through their mouth, which noses are meant for breathing. Mouths are meant for eating, So we should breathe in through the nose and out through the mouth at all times. I suggest people tape their mouth shut when they sleep. It's amazing what happens. You don't even have to get up to pee because your oxytocin goes up. No, sorry, it's the vas oppressent is what goes up when you breathe through your nose, and it actually stems off the need to yearn it so you don't get up as much in the middle of the night. And there's all these benefits that happen from breathing properly. And this has been known for at least one hundred and fifty years.

26:56 Let's go to number two. Let's go to number two. So you talked about three things. Breathing was the one. What's your next? Number two? Okay, kind of biking on that right now. We're talking about the integrated dissension breathing. Oh yes, yes, okay. So the first one is the inner power generation through the breathwork. The second one is internal healing. Our body wants to be healthy intrinsically, we want to be in homeostasis. We want to be healthy, but we have so many things that are against us. We have poisonous food, water, air, our own thoughts with the cortisol and the hormones of hormones of stress that can break us down, cause cancer. It can literally seeing now that a lot of diabetes and also Alzheimer's. There is a lot of correlation now being rooted to being directed toward what is happening with these hormones of stress.

27:53 The pollution in our house can be four to five times as bad as what's outside, with all the different things that are in all our furniture and our clothing, our fragrances. These things. It's amazing what we can be doing so that we have a nice smelling house that's actually hurting us. So that's the part that energy healing part of this. When you have more energy, your body is going to have more energy to then create balance in homeostasis. And so I've seen amazing health turnarounds in short order with this breath work. The third one is the sigh abilities, the going beyond the five physical senses, so seeing without your eyes is one. But for instance, the ancient Egyptian said that we have three hundred and sixty senses, not five, So we don't know how they built the pyramids. We know we cannot do that with our equipment now, there's no possible way right now humanity cannot build those they did.

28:51 They were doing brain surgery successfully. They were able to harness electricity and had light bulbs. There's all kinds of hieroglyphic showing and that I've seen some documentaries where they actually put the acids together and they holy crap, they made light bulbs. So they were able to do things that we didn't think that they were able to do. And we've forgotten a lot of that technology. So what have we also forgotten as far as the human capabilities of our sensing in our creation and manifesting ability. We don't know. But that's one thing that's really need with this. It's always about what can I do? What can I do? What is real? And that's really the crux of the integrated ascension method for just this one part.

29:33 But that's the thing. The integrated ascension method with this breathwork from our patiput is one aspect that is the foundation of it. But I've also brought in things like biohacking and viber acoustic therapy where your entire body vibrates through transducers with certain frequencies while you do this energy work, things like binuural beats and brainwave entrainment from one of the pioneers, doctor Jeffrey Thompson, who his company Scientific Sounds. He could do things with your nervous system using sound that he has the patent on it no one else can do. And organic food through Aria Organic, so some of the most nutritious, non GMO all organic food, Indian food specifically that is blessed by elders before it leaves the warehouse, and it's all infused with the five hundred and twenty eight herts of love. So you're basically eating love when you eat this.

30:29 And so we understand that everything in the universe is vibration, information and frequency. Well, if you're feeling the feeling of love, you're going to be a much healthier state than your feeling you're feeling ashamed, anger, despair, fear, those ones who are going to break you down. So this food alone builds you up. Those are just a few of the things in the integrated ascension method. And I've always been a nerd and a tech geek, so I'm like, I want the greatest, I want the latest, I want the best that they're is, and so I'm bringing in things that we didn't even have five or ten years ago. And when we bring that in with Murpati Puti, the results are fast. They're striking for a lot of people.

31:15 And I'll tell you this story, quick story. When I had one of my good friends who is one of the best big wave surfers in the world. Well, this man, he still holds the world record, I believe, for being on a ventilator the longest with COVID in a living He was on a ventilator for seventy days wow. And the last thirty he was in a medically induced coma where they were going to They wanted to replace it and give him a transplant for his lungs, and his wife said, no, if he dies, he dies whole. Well, he woke up on Christmas Day of twenty twenty one and I met him November twenty twenty two, so about eleven months after, and he was able to walk up about three or four stairs before he had to stop and rest. His lungs were that destroyed. And so I taught him the first and most basic exercise in the integrated ascension method for breath holding. I taught him. We were in Costa Rica. Actually, i'll preframe that that we were in Costa Rica. I was flown down there to teach a group of people there and he started getting teary eyed, and I went over and I asked him.

32:26 I said, Drew, what happened to you? And he looked at me and he said, Nate, this is the best I've been able to breathe since I got sick. And the next day we went down to the beach. Drew jumped on a surfboard and he served for about an hour and a half. It was the first time he'd been able to surf since he got COVID. So it took literally ten minutes Doctor Doug to do this type of breath work to bring back his ability to breathe. And that's why I really worked with three types of people. The first, business who have breathing issues. People who are under some massive amounts of stress, whether it's exercise induced, stress induced, chemical induced, mother in law induced, I don't know.

33:15 I love to work with business leaders, entrepreneurs, executives, people who have a lot of people like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders. And since we have thirty three million people with asthma. We have seventeen and a half million people with long COVID, we have eighteen million people with COPD. We have about fourteen million from what I've read, people with emphasima in this country alone. This exercise alone, if you can imagine what it's like not to be able to breathe and be able to hold your breath for a couple minutes in a certain way, and all of a sudden you can breathe better again. You didn't have to take drugs, you didn't have to well feel like you're going to die.

33:58 That's what this does. The second one athletes people who are either professional or amateur athletes, if they run the Spartan race, or if they love triathlon or they love tennis. It doesn't matter. If you move your body and you need your lungs. This helps. That's why the Indonesian military uses it because the physical the physical benefits are incredible. And the third are spiritual seekers. Like I said, I will never be the person to say this is how you get up to the mountain. There are many roads to Zion, but I am a damn good Shehrpa. I'll tell you that because I've got twenty five years in about thirty seven thousand hours of experience teaching people. This is something that I love to do. And so for the spiritual seekers who want to level up their practice, whatever that is, whether it's a possible of Buddhism, or maybe they're a breathworker, or maybe they're a reiki healer, this is the ultimate force multiplier. I've never seen anything like it. So I'm blessed that I get to a chance to show so many people like this. And I mean I do it for free too. Every couple of weeks I teach free webinars.

35:06 I actually teach real usable techniques that people blows their mind instead of just a bunch of fluff and no stuff. This is all stocked and online as well, so people can learn all around the world. You could learn over in Thailand, but I'm asleep in the middle of a day. For you, you can be holding your breath and feeling like a million bucks doc value. Oh that's great, you know, And you mentioned something that I think that I love and I've really studied and a lot of people talk about it when we get into meditation and you talk about the different frequencies the binural beats. You also have selfveggio frequencies and so forth. What has been your experience for people that are doing meditation that want to tap into some of those frequencies.

35:49 Do you find in your experience binural seems to be working better than selveggio or how does that work? And let's talk about and we don't have a lot of time, but let's talk a little bit of out how people can tap into that area outside of themselves, into those frequencies and apply them to themselves. Great question. So here's the thing with scientific sounds from doctor Jeffrey Thompson that works on the binaral beats, right, so that's going to help create a certain brainwave state. And this man he actually discovered the brainwave states below delta. Before him, they thought delta was as low as you go. Then he discovered the epsilon frequencies and they keep going.

36:32 I mean, this man is an amazing genius. And so to take people into these brainwave states with binaral beats is a great thing. But then the sulfeggios, Yes, the vibra acoustic therapy cushions that I use from in harmony, that I use it every single day. I have it sitting right here next to me that uses so soul veggio frequencies through your whole body vibrates with them. So what I do is I take this next level breath work that was hidden for centuries. Take the sulfeggio frequence. These have been around forever or whatever, and then the binural beats, which are a more recent technology. Merge them all together and people can find out at my on my website, which is I am Pure dot Energy, so it's not a dot com, it's I am Pure dot Energy.

37:14 Go to my project products page. You'll be able to go and see these things for yourself, as well as a lot more. That's what I would recommend as far as people who want to actually step into this realm and use this technology to go further faster. I mean, I'm the guy. Who always looked at the cheat codes. On video games. I want to go farther. Faster, right, So if you want to do that, that's a good place to start, and it'll explain a lot about it. So have you put together And as I've looked and studied on YouTube and various places, you know, usually it's either so fedgio and you've got your different frequencies. Uh, you've got the binural, but it's rare to find the combination of binural and solfedgio. And again you know which frequency do you use? Have you put those together where the audience could actually go to your website and download, even if they need to pay a little bit for that, download some of those frequencies so that they can use that in their course of meditation.

38:13 Of course, absolutely so when they go to my products page on my website, then you look for scientific sounds and they are any of those frequencies. But one of the two of the ones that I really love are the ones for the default mode network of the brain, which is amazing at helping us reset and really manage our stress. The second one is called the flow and this actually puts your brain into the flow state what has been monitored and measured as the flow state. This puts you right there. And so that's what I would recommend is people go and get those two and yeah they have to pay a little bit, but so what it's not much. And the thing is is if you think wellness is expensive, try illness.

38:55 Oh amen to that? So how long? How long are those How long are those free Quincy meditations going? It's usually have thirty minutes thirty hours, And do you find that that do you find that thirty minutes is sufficient? I mean, I I try to meditate every morning. I do a walking meditation. I kind of got tapped into that and I love it. But I'm going for an hour, and yet other people talk about fifteen minutes, ten minutes, thirty minutes. Have you found that there's a and I not an ideal, but have you found that there's a time period of meditation that seems to be the most effective. That all really depends on the individual, So I can't say one way or the other. I have done the eight hour straight meditations with Jodas Benza and other techniques as well. I've done two hour meditations through them or Pati Putty way, but I really prefer to do doctor Jeff Thompson scientific sounds. But here's because here's the thing.

39:54 If you go into a meditation, let's see, you're going to do a Vipastaa or a Zen Buddhist meditation, and you sit down and you meditate for an hour, you might actually be in a deep enough brainwave state say a deep data state for maybe a few minutes. Well, what if you were able to push a button and it just changed your brain to that data and you're there for a half an hour. If you have you know, five minutes, you took an hour and you got five minutes of that actually there, what happens if you actually get thirty full minutes. That's the same if you were actually able to quantify this as six hours of meditation without those right, because it puts you there. So that's what I recommended. I'm all about, I'm all about hacking this thing. I mean, I was just on a call literally right before this with one of the top genetic researchers in the world about what you can do with your genes and what they express to remove cancers, to remove and eliminate Alzheimer, things like that based upon how your genes are activated or not and what you were born with.

41:00 Amazing stuff. So you know, this is something that I would recommend for everybody that when you want to if you want something bad enough, you'll find the funds to do it. That's all there is to it. The breaks go out, You're going to get breaks for your car. But the thing is as humans because of our nature, a lot of times we don't do anything until the house is on a fire. Yeah, you know, And I think it's important for folks to realize that there is scientific basis now of what you're talking about, and there's no question about that. And if they want to get in, you know, and start looking at that, they will find the scientific basis of all this. So this is no longer woo woo discussion. So as we close, a couple of questions. Number one, reaffirm how do people find you?

41:48 So my website is I am Pure dot Energy, and you could also look for Integrated Ascension Method or I call it the I am I love that the acronyms rate, but the Integrated Ascension Method on Google, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Pinterest, You're going to find me everywhere just Integrated Ascension Method or Nate Zelesnik. But that last name, I understand might not be as easy for you to search. So in book, I know, I know, it's the same as all brands. Nobody can pronounce it. And you know that's the thing is I, like I said, every two weeks, I have free webinars where people jump on with for with me for three hours. I give you very actionable deep breathwork and meditation training, using scientific sounds, using more PATTIPOUTI, using these life changing things that I've had people that in three hours. They said, this is the most empowerful, empowerful, empowering and powerful event I've ever been to. These are seasoned meditators.

42:47 And they can sign up for that on your website. Yeah, you know, the people look at that in my my masterclass. Here's the question, because I have a lot of clients all over the world, so different times. Are they recorded so they can tap into it at their own time or do they need to get up in the middle of the night. You know, that's a great question. As of right. Now, No, they would get up in the middle of the night. However, I am just about to. Release my brand new app, so on your phone, you'll be able to see the recordings, you'll be able to jump on there, you'll be able to have me with you wherever you go, and it will be the first of it's kind for them, or PATTIPOUTI, or a lot of these different technologies of its kind in the world first time. So that's about a month away from release.

43:30 The most important thing is get on my list, find out what's going on. I released all kinds of free content all over the social media platforms as well, and I've got some really neat of beautiful meditations that you can do using the scientific Sounds right on my YouTube channel. So make sure you subscribe, like share all the stuff to let people know. Fantastic, fantastic. So as we close, what would be that one message, And obviously you've got a lot, but what would be the one message that you'd like to share with the audience that could make a difference for them. One of the most important things for any human being, I believe, is seeking to remember who you are and why you came here, and that can only be done by asking yourself. It's not going to be in another course, it's not going to be in a video, not going to be in a book, it's not going to be in a belief structure. All the answers are within you.

44:31 So learning how to breathe properly, to sit in the silence of your own self and ask yourself the questions, who am I, Why am I here? Where am I going? Am I learning everything? And doing everything that I possibly can in this lifetime, and if not, get on it. As we know, I was just twenty and I just turned forty nine. I was just twenty a blink ago and it goes by, nick goes by fast. So enjoy your ride. We came here. This is about playing. Life is about living, so even in the hard times, realize there's a lesson behind it and you're so much more than you have ever been taught. You are so enjoy exploring you.

45:19 Thank you, thank you, Nate. This has been great. I really have appreciated you being on the show and the incredible insights that you have. I love it so folks, thanks for listening. Nate, thanks for being on the show, and folks, we hope you'll join us again soon. And this is doctor Doug saying no Mista.