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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what
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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,
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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.
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Denzel Washington, welcome to inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is
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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you
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to do the same.
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Nate Zeleslnik, how are you, Doctor Doug.
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I'm honored and pleased to be here with you and
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so many people out there. Hello to everybody who's watching
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or listening right now.
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Well, and I'm excited to add it on the show.
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And as we were talking, I just realized, and we
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both realized that when I'm in the US, we actually
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live very close to each other in the same same area,
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literally five minutes away. Yeah, which is great. So what
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I'd love for you to do, Nate, is to kind
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of tell your background story, who you are, what you do,
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and how you came to the point where you were
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working with individuals. Yeah.
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So I my story started, My spiritual story, I should say,
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started when I was around twelve years old, sitting on
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my father's den with a loaded rifle pressed against my
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head and growing up in the small valley where we
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live in Utah, especially in the seventies and eighties, as
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the only non Mormon kid, I under a lot of
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fire with abuse from my peers and sometimes even sometimes
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their parents would also bully me. And so this was
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something that was almost a daily occurrence for me when
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I was in school, and sometimes even during summer break.
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And so I'd had it and I.
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Couldn't take it anymore. I knew it just wasn't going
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to stop. I wasn't like them. I was the smallest
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one on my grade and I would be ganged up
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on a regular basis. And so I was looking to
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take a permanent exit based upon a temporary problem. And
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the reason I didn't was I thought of my mom
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and Dad, and I just couldn't do that to them,
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no matter how bad it got, I wasn't going to
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do that to them, and so I put the rifle away,
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unloaded it, and they never found out. But that night
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is when I had my very first out of body
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experience for my first astral projection. And I had no idea.
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What this was.
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I just knew that I was seeing my body while
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it was asleep, and I wasn't asleep. And then it
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kept happening, Dot Doug. It kept happening on not a
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nightly basis, but at least a couple times a week,
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and I really credit my higher self with saving me
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from myself. And I became absolutely obsessed with what is
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real because I wasn't religious, I wasn't born brought up
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in a religious household. I wasn't even brought up in
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a particularly spiritual household at all, and yet these things
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were happening and I didn't know what to make of it.
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So when I was sixteen and I could actually drive
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and get my own money, and while other boys were
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off trying to buy things to unpress girls or getting
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a new car, I was buying things like HEMI sync
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audio tapes that were by neuro brainwaven trainment tracks, or
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books on the out of body experience, or books on
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the CIA Stargate program where they would use remote viewing
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to spy on the so during the Cold War from
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thousands of miles away accurately in a lot of cases,
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to find out what was really happening. And so I
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really went down the deck with the rabbit hole of
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the woo woo everything from witchcraft and magic to tarot
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cards too. I just wanted to find out without saying
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this is real, asking those questions that are most important
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is why am I here? How did I get here?
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What am I supposed to actually be doing? And what
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happens when we're not here anymore? Those big questions from
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a young age. And when I was twenty three years old,
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after training in martial arts and bodybuilding and doing all
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kinds of spiritual adventures and different trainings, well, I had
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a sinker destiny that changed my life forever, and it
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really set me on this life path that I'm on now.
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And I ordered a course out a black Belt magazine
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and it guaranteed me inner power in two weeks or
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I could get my money back. So I was like, yes,
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running back guarantee on instant Chi, I want that, And
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I got this, And it came with this chinsey little
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manual that had like stick figures drawn in there that
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was completely bogus, but it came with a VHS videotape
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that showed Indonesian martial artists. Now I trained in Japanese
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martial arts and Chinese martial arts, but I'd never thought
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about Indonesia as having martial arts at all. And I
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found out that they have over seven hundred different systems
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there and that it's a huge cultural heritage for them. Well,
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what these people were able to do not only this
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beautiful type of movement in combat that I'd never seen before,
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but also they were not breaking little boards, they were
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breaking stacks of steel bars, barely touching them, and I
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thought that was pretty cool. And then it showed people
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who could literally see without using their eyes. And I'm
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not talking about some basic things. I'm talking about riding
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motorcycles and driving cars through traffic in Jakarta, or military
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people who could fight full contact bare knuckles with hoods
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over their heads, and they could even shoot targets out
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of people's hands when they couldn't see, and it showed
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some blind people, and these blind people could read printed
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material and their eyes were white as a sheet, and
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I thought I was really skeptical. Honestly, I thought it
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was BS. But I'd also had all these different out
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of body experiences and read about so many things in
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the realm of SI that is beyond the physical five senses,
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that I was thinking, maybe Jedis are really real. And
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that night I went to bed, and the next day,
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on my way to work, I drove by the Utah
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Schools for the Death and the Blind in Ogden, and
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I watched a blind lady almost die in front of
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me trying to cross the street with her dog. That
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the dog led her straight into the light pole. And
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I thought to myself, right there, I have to find
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those Indonesian people to help her out, to see if
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they can help her. And that set me on a course,
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doctor Doug where I went to the Weaver County Library
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up here and I searched for two weeks. I finally
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found those people. I reached out to them, and then
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I was able to sponsor the very first demonstration of
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this art in America at Weaber State University. Also, you
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just goes for the death and the blind and even
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for the Indonesian embassy and the ambassador in Washington, d C. Now,
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the name of this art is called Marpati Puti. Now
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Marpati Puti sounds funny in English, but in sorry, in
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the Indonesian language, it means white dove. So it's the
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symbol of peace and justice for humanity in a martial art,
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which I thought was really cool because most martial arts
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are like red tiger or black dragon. They are kind
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of an aggressive fighting style type of animal. And here
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you have the white dove, and it turns out that
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it is one of the most well, the full martial
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art is one of the most brutal systems I've ever seen,
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and it's it deserves its place in the pantheon of
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kick your butt martial arts, really up there. And so
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you know, I brought them over here and I got
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to see for myself blind people who could do anything
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you or I take for granted that we could do
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with our eyesight, and more and more than we can
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do with eyesight. And they had never allowed a non
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Indonesian person to learn this in history. Ever, in five
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hundred years, it was kept within the Royal Family of Java,
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and then in nineteen sixty three release to the Indonesian
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people during what is called the Indonesian Genocide where the
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government of Indonesia killed over six hundred thousand people.
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Wow in six months.
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I mean, we can't even imagine what that would be like.
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And they released it to help people defend themselves but
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also understand spiritually, we're all the same, We're all one being,
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and we're just having different experiences through the lens of consciousness.
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And if I hurt you, I hurt myself. So it
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was really to bring the country of Indonesia together. Well,
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fast forward to nineteen ninety nine when I brought this
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team over here, when they saw what I was willing
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to do to help them get a foothold here to
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bring this art to help humanity. The eleventh generation Royal Airs.
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They gave the chairman of the organization who was in
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my house, gave him authorization to have be trained and
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they're just so happened, just so happened to be a
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former Special Forces trainer, former Patipouti, which just as an
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aside wher Pattipooti is standard training for every branch of
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the Indonesian normal forces for the past fifty years. Wow, yeah,
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including their special forces. And now because this breath work,
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in this meditation, this fitness system, this energetic healing, this
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century fareness expansion is so effective so quickly. That's why
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the military forces used it. But they had never let
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a non Indonesian person learn it and till me and
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I started training with this gentleman the same well the
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week after they left and went back home, and then
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a few weeks later one of my younger brothers joined me,
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and together the two of us were able to advance
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through the ranks faster than anyone who was allowed to before,
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put on a very aggressive training regiment similar to those
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special forces training, and then we became the very first
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non Indonesian more Patiputi members on December thirty first.
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Nineteen ninety nine.
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So in y two K when everybody was worried about
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their systems crashing, we were worried about our system crashing,
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and so we became authorized fall members. And then over
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the next twenty years we've been to Indonesian numerous times
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for long training and testing sabbaticals. We owned one of
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the largest martial arts and meditation academies in the country.
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Here ogden utuckle to where we are or where we're
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in your house is exactly And you know, we were
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able to do things that no one in history had
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ever been able to do or been allowed to do.
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And then COVID came along, and COVID really decimated the
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martial arts industry. I mean, over seventy eight hundred different
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martial arts schools closed in the US permanently during COVID.
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Ours was one of those, and so we pivoted to
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a seminar format and we were training just the blindfold skill.
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And then a couple of years ago, my heart was
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really calling for me to expand beyond just this, because
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as cool as it is to see without your eyes,
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what is really the utility of it? If you're not healthy,
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and if you're not actually spiritually advancing yourself, it becomes
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a parlor trick.
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And I've wanted more. I wanted to help.
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People more than that, and so now with my integrated
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ascension method, what I do is I help individuals as
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well as businesses and athletic organizations and basically people with
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lungs and people who have a body they don't I
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can't really help, but it's people who want to really
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find out more of who they really aren't embody a
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deep practice spiritually that is not denominational, it's non sectarian,
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it's not belief based. It's based upon experience and knowledge,
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because belief is a poor substitute for knowledge. And so
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I don't subscribe to belief in many things at all,
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other than believe that you can experience that you're here
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to experience. It's ongoing, you can't shut it off, and
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everything changes those.
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It's interesting that you talk about, you know, avoiding the
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religion part of it. What I found here is as
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i'm here, I've really enjoyed studying Buddhism. And one of
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the more recent things that I looked at was, you know,
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why why did Buddha not believe in God? And there's
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a lot of reasons for that, but the whole point
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came across was that he was teaching the people here
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how to become the best that they could become in
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the circumstances that exist here in Asia. And you know,
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it's interesting to see what has happened because his original
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teachings have then become taken by individuals and now there's
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I think over three four five different Buddhist religions, and
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they all differ a little bit from each other. And
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so when we look at the reality of eternal truths, okay,
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and what you're talking about, you refer to it as spirituality.
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You know who we are. You take that, and all
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of a sudden, religion has adapted that to various religious
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organizations and so forth, and for the good for the
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most part. But as you say in your particular case,
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which is so unfortunate in Utah, you started to become
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bullied because you were not part of that major religion there,
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and that's most unfortunate. But what I love is the