“If I Die Before I Wake

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services of competent professionals before applying or
trying any suggested ideas. Yeah, it's

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really interesting that as I had an
opportunity to interview different people, each one

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of them has a different path where
they've followed in order to achieve a level

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of awareness and love and happiness and
joy that all of us are seeking.

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And today I'm really excited to have
a gentleman on the show that has actually

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done some amazing things Jonathan England,
and he's actually, at this point in

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time, gone through his own personal
five apps, written a book If I

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Die Before Awake, and talking about
how we can literally be awake in this

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life. And then he's actually developed
and created some villages where people have reached

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a level of awareness and understanding where
they are just thriving. And so it's

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going to be a really interesting interview
to listen to the five steps that he

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wrote about because he experienced it,
and to see how he achieved the level

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that he's achieved, and how we
can all achieve that higher level of awareness

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and kindness and love and joy and
happiness and all of those things that literally

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we can become if we choose to. So please stay and listen to the

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show. I hope you enjoy it
and look forward to having you really join

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us with this show. At the
end of the day, it's not about

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what you have or even what you've
accomplished. It's about what you've done with

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those accomplishments. It's about who you've
lifted up, who you've made better.

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It's about what you've given back.
Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision.

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Our sole purpose is to elevate the
lives of others and to inspire you to

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do the same. Jonathan, Welcome
to the show. How are you doing.

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I'm doing great, Doctor Doug,
thanks for having me on. Yeah,

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and I'm excited. You know you
were telling me before. Let the

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audience know where you actually living right
now. I'm in Costa Rica on the

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South Pacific side coast to Dominical and
that's go ahead, keep going. A

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place called Platinio de Berus where the
little area is called Wow. That is

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fantastic. You know, it's amazing
what we can do with zoom now,

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isn't it. Yeah. The world
has just really become much smaller because of

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the ability to communicate and so forth. So you've written a book and we're

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going to talk about that called If
I Die Before I Wake. And you

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know, you've got a journey that
I'm sure that you have been on in

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order to get to the point that
you had inspired to write map book.

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So let's talk a little bit about
what your person journey has done. Yeah,

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and so yeah, that's actually what
my book is. There's three parts

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to it. There's the Path,
the proof, and the process. The

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path is the roadmap, which are
these five levels of consciousness or five states

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of conscious orientation, five ways to
perceive reality. The part two is the

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proof, which is my journey through
those five steps, my journey through the

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roadmap. And part three is called
the process, which is the basically the

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tools that I gathered along the way. I say that there's only one way

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to learn, it's through failure,
but the caveat is it doesn't have to

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be your failure. You can learn
through someone else's So you'll get here's what

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not to do, and here's the
recipe that actually works. Don't add any

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of this stuff, only do this, and then this is how you can

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transcend each of the levels. What
what brought you to this point? I

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mean, what what was your life
journey that actually got you inspired to write

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the book? Yeah, so there
was a shift in each moment along the

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way, Like how I really got
deep into level one, which Level one

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is called disoriented, which is meaning
you have no direction you do, You're

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just kind of like a pinball getting
bounced around. It's the it's the victim

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mentality mindset, which is where ninety
percent of humanity actually is um. But

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what really drove me into that,
I mean, it's social conditioning. It's

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we're indoctrinated, domesticated to be exist
in level one. Uh, because then

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we're, you know, we're slaves
to the system as long as as long

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as we don't as long as we
perceive ourselves as victims and we're either at

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war with something or just feel hopeless
to it, then we completely be played.

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But so there's all the indoctrination from
every angle coming at us as we

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grow up in what I call the
old world. But uh specific, basically,

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when I really went down deep into
that in the darkness was when I

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was twelve years old. My brother
was sixteen. He died of muscular Distropheat

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now I knew he was going to
It was a terminal disease that he'd had

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his whole life, but it's still
was just it was a lot. When

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I'm a twelve year old kid,
I was the one in the room.

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My mom sent me in there and
said, hey, go let him know

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that it's okay to die. He's
suffering, he's in a lot of pain,

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and he just needs to know that
it's okay to die because he's only

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holding on for us. So I
was this kid, and I was a

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highly trained hero. It was like
my job to you know, I was

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responsible for my family's feelings. And
so here I was, I'm going in

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there and I go tell my brother
his Matthew, it's it's okay to die.

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And now, underneath that robotic words
that I spoke because I was supposed

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to my Iron Man costume, my
Iron Man costume said it. But the

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little kid that was behind that to
him was in pain. But I didn't

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even allow myself to feel that because
if I did, then I wouldn't be

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the hero. I wouldn't be I
wouldn't be doing what a good son would

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have done. So I completely numbed
out and walled off all of my emotions

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in that moment. I had to
in order to say that without lying.

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I mean, I was still lying, but but but but I had to.

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I had to lie to myself first, so I wouldn't be lying to

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him, you know. And it
was all unconscious. I didn't know this

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was happening. But right, Well, and you make an interesting point,

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you know when you say there's this
huge percentage of people that are living in

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the victim mode? What does that
look like? Number one? And how

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do you think that that's happened in
this world? And why do you think

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it's such a big number, Because
people are going to listen to this.

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You go, I'm no victim.
Well, the I always say, the

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degree in which you're awake is the
degree in which you take responsibility for your

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reality. So if you're one hundred
percent responsible for every aspect of everything that's

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going on in your reality, then
you're one hundred percent awake. If you're

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how much are you blaming someone or
something for something that you're experiencing. Most

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people are spending most of their time
pointing the finger. It's well, it's

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it's Donald Trump's fault or Joe Biden's
fault. There, it's the pandemic,

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the virus fault, it's the something. It's somebody's fault for something. It's

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my children's fault, that, it's
my parents fault, it's all it's somebody's

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fault. So the degree in which
you're doing that you're blaming, uh,

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is the degree in which you're completely
asleep. And so how this happened is

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because we all bit The fruit was
the fruit of the knowledge of good and

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evil. Basically, the it's the
fruit of the knowledge of good of not

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enough because all there what is is
infinite abundance. All there is is love.

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But we we leave what's real in
the pursuit of what appears to be

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what you believe to be true.
It is true for you, even if

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it's a lie. So we've been
into a lie, and then we made

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the lie more real than real.
And the lie was I'm not enough and

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I've got to figure out how to
become enough. So what we do is

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we trade in our purpose, We
trade in our true identity, for approval,

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for significance, for safety, for
security, for whatever it is that

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we think is going to make us
feel better because we don't feel like we're

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enough it. You know, it
really hits hard. Some Usually somewhere between

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four and seven is when the person
all of a sudden stops being themselves.

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They're like, they're innocent child,
heart wide open, and then somebody says

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something, somebody does something, and
they're like, oh, it's not okay

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to be me. I've got to
figure out who I'm supposed to be so

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that I can be loved. And
then we build this egoic identity and don't

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even realize that we did it because
the whole society his program doesn't do.

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I mean, the entire educational system
was specifically set up in order to train

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people to be cogs in the machine, to be factory workers. That's literally

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the whole purpose for it was to
train people to be factory workers. That's

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what it was created for, which
I mean, yeah, it's it's interesting.

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I am. I was just at
another meeting and I was talking about

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learning styles and for people who have
children that are in school or their homeschooling,

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and talking about the fact that people
don't realize that we're only taught one

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way in school. There is only
one way to teach in school for the

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most part, and oftentimes a huge
percentage of the kids that are sitting in

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that classroom, that's not their learning
style, that's not how they like to

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learn. So I find it fascinating
that you talk about the fact that it

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does happen in our childhood and where
we're not good enough. I've been doing

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a lot. I love to study
religions, and one of them might just

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have been recently studying as Buddhism.
And as interesting as he talks about the

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fact that we all are suffering,
and when he says that it's not necessarily

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that we're physically suffering, but that
we're craving something or we desire something that

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we're not getting, and when that
happens, that causes a suffering. And

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in my mind, as you just
brought this up, that really let's listen

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to that victim doesn't. Yeah,
And as Harriet Tubman said, she's been

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given credit for, I've also heard
people say that she didn't actually say this,

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but it says she said a freed
to thousand slaves. I could have

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freed to thousand more if only they
knew they were slaves. So we're like

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even, we're like two steps removed
from the truth. It doesn't say your

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truth will set you free. It
says the truth will set you free.

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But there's the truth, there's reality, and then there's your truth that's divorced

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from reality because you can't face reality. People are so terrified to look reality

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in the face because they've assigned a
meaning to a moment. Like maybe you're

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five years old, you're this is
not this is probably this is most people's

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example of how it starts is more
traumatic than this. But let's just use

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this as an example. Five year
old kid goes and says, hey,

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Dad, can we put go throught
some baseball? And Dad says, no,

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I'm busy, leave me alone,
And the little five year old kids

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like, h well, what's wrong
with me? Like I just made dad

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angry at him, so I'm so
sorry. And then he's like, now,

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if there's traumatic response, I've got
to be something different than just being

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a kid that just wants to hang
out with his dad. Now, what

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the little kid doesn't understand is that
dad was, you know, working seventy

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hours a week, given everything that
he could to give his family the life

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that he never had, and then
he's got his wife just nagged at him,

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Hey, how come you don't spend
any time with me? How come

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you don't talk to me? He's
like, Dude, I spend seventy hours

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a week working my tail off.
I don't have another breath an ounce of

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I just I just need to rest. So little kid can't understand that.

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So he made a meaning to that
moment, which the meaning was, Oh

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God, Dad doesn't love me.
Which if Dad doesn't love me, then

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that must if he can't doesn't let
me, then who can? Then it

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must mean I'm not enough. So
I've got to figure out how to become

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enough. So again we leave what's
real in the pursuit of what appears to

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be. We bought into a lie
and then made the lie more real than

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real. The truth is, you
are enough, You always have been,

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you always will be. There's nothing
you can't get any more perfect than you

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are already created is. But we
create an illusory self and start trying to

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manufacture it so we can be in
control of love. But you can't control

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love because love is all there is. How could you can control all there

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is. You can only control what
isn't And so the only thing we're in

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control of is our smallness. So
we create these small selves that we are.

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It's like a little puppet, but
we identified with the puppet. So

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we can try to protect ourselves from
getting hurt by the meaning that we that

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we assigned to the moment, That
the moment didn't hurt us, the meaning

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we assigned to it hurt us well. And I think it's really important that

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you talk about this reality versus perception. And everyone has a different perception of

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life. You know, it's the
old story of there's four people at an

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intersection and there's a crash, and
when they're getting an interview by the authorities,

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everybody has a different story about what
happened, and yet they were all

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there because their perception was different based
on whatever that happens to be. So

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when you when you talk about,
you know, a child, here's something

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said to them. Their perception is
what creates that emotion for them. And

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it's interesting that perception is not necessarily
quote reality, you know, it is

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there a universal reality that actually exists? And do most of us find that

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our perception in some way is not
necessarily aligned with that reality. Yeah,

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the feeling that someone is experiencing side
of himself is the interaction of their perception,

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which whatever they perception they formed,
how is interacting reality with reality.

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It's not the moment itself that that
creates any sort of feeling inside of somebody

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is the meaning they assigned to the
moment. And so one of the most

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I guess destructive. You could say
things that we do learn in school.

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Uh, and it's it's as it's
destructive, but everything washes out in the

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end as you as you get the
lessons through it, you go through it.

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It serves a purpose. It served
a purpose for us to go to

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sleep. We were supposed to go
to sleep. We were supposed to figure

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out what love isn't so we could
actually turn around and really know what love

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is because we are love. But
how could we know who we are if

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all we are as us and all
there is is us? So we had

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to learn what love isn't, which
what love isn't isn't it doesn't exist.

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So we had to step into an
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what is. But the thing that
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its purpose to getting us to fall
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than the question. That's what we
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to regurgitate the answer exactly the what
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the way that you're told, then
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cannot say the same thing the same
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get an F. You're failure,
you're worthless. So it's all about cleaning

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the outside of the cup, leaving
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the questions are the answer, and
it's like living inside of the question,

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like really great question, like really
crappy questions create really crappy reality for you,

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like a question like why am I
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me? I mean, you're presupposing
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living in that reality even when somebody's
like shaking you, hey, I love

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you. You you you can't believe
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our greatest gift is that we're always
right, and our greatest curses that we're

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always right. Questions, what are
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lie? And so we perceive these
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it separate ourselves like it's our own
world. We're living inside of our literally

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living in our own world, detached
from the truth of our oneness Withal and

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the truth that loves the only thing
that Yeah, IMA's where you found yourself

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in that first step as a victim, because for you, it was you

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needed to. You needed to say
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you necessarily it wasn't real. Yeah, I had to. I created a

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false reality. But it was two
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actually told me the truth his last
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him a lie. Well, it
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him the truth that it's okay to
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I was two steps removed from the
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that you're dying right now. It
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And the truth is, hey,
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How do I know? Because he
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insane, So he was supposed to
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he died, So the truth is
it's okay. But I was two steps

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removed because I wouldn't let myself feel
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had to put on a mask that
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it was like a reflection of the
sun. There's no It's like looking at

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the moon and I'm calling it the
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There's there's just a reflection of the
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a perfect example for what I'm talking
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moment. I told my brother it's
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I was detached from reality of the
pain inside of myself. I said it's

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okay to die, but he what
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and he was connected to it when
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the words, but I had no
clue what he meant because I was so

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I was detached from reality. I
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I assigned a meaning to that moment. Three meanings. One that that life

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is meaningless, because how could there
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brother was only sixteen years old,
he was stuck in a wheelchair most of

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his life and then he dies,
there can't be any meaning to life.

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Two that there is no god,
because if there's a god, then either

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I did something wrong or he's wrong, and you know one of those two

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they something doesn't work either either scenario, it doesn't work for me, So

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there can't be a god. And
then the third thing was that I failed

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love because it's like subconsciously I thought
it was my job to save my brother

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because my family fell apart when I
was five years old. My parents got

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divorced because they just couldn't. Life
was already enough, hard enough, and

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then they had a son that's going
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parents to have to look at that, and so they got divorced. And

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I'm like subconsciously thinking, if I
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save my family. And now my
whole, my whole identity was gone in

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that moment, and so I went
into a spiral of just oblivion. I

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became a brokagnorant, blackout, drunk, atheist, beach bum. So what

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were the words that he said to
you? So the words that he said

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was, John, I'm not dying, I'm waking up. He said,

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this world is he's sixteen years old. He said, this world is just

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a dream. He said, I've
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He had these pictures of these adults
above his bed. He just loved

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dolphins because they could play. They
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He couldn't jump. He had never
jumped his whole life. So he says,

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I'm not dying. I'm waking up. This body, this whole thing

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is just a dream, and I'm
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I'm gonna be able to run and
play like a little child in heaven.

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And that was the truth. Oh
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I was thinking I was this body, But how could I possibly be this

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body? If I'm this body?
What happens when the body goes away?

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I go away? But that's what
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you know, when the awakening happens, you realize you're not a human being

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having a spiritual experience. You're a
spiritual being having a human experience. You're

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You're not a time. You're a
child of eternity that's hanging out in time.

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this lifetime is just a brief moment
in the eternities of our lives, and

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as you say, the mortal aspect
of it is just something very different.

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But when you when you think about
man and and my question to you is

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with writing this book and with going
through those five steps and we'll go on

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to the next one in just a
minute, is it your goal to help

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people to get to the point where
they are living life in this life and

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loving life in this life and waking
up in this life so they actually truly

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experience a life of joy and happiness
and love and freedom and adventure. Yeah.

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Well, that's that's the fruit of
the book. If you I don't

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specifically have a goal for it,
because when you get to level five.

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But you'll understand why I don't specifically
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but because it was written through me. It just came. It came through.

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But but the fruit of it,
if you get what it says,

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the fruit what you'll what you'll receive
is heaven on earth. And that is

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possible. That is definitely possible.
Let's go to stub number two. So,

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um, there I was. Now
I made the decision. I signed

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a meaning to a moment at twelve
years old, life is meaningless. There's

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no God. I failed love with
those belief systems. Now I formed a

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new identity of and I became a
broke, ignorant, blackout, drunk,

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atheist, beach bum because someone who
failed above is worthless. Uh you know,

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I don't like I don't even matter, and so I acted accordingly.

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I acted accordingly to the belief the
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I always talk about when it's time
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starts out as a feather stroke.
If you don't get the feather stroke,

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it comes as a nudge. If
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the shove. If you don't get
the nudge, then it's the cosmic two

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by four with the spikes in it
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So I'm an all in kind of
guy, which also equates to stubborn.

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And it takes a little while to
get some lessons because I'm gone.

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I'm gone all the way. Like
I was. I was a literally blackout

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drunk six nights a week for like
a decade, like not just drunk,

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blackout drunk, why because I'm all
in right, going all the way,

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and so I had to get a
few feather strokes, nudges, shoves,

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two about fours. On January first, at twelve fifteen, fifteen minutes after

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New Year's I got at ui and
you know that should have been something,

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Hey, John, maybe you get
on a new path now, But nope,

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that didn't work for me. All
kinds of other crazy stuff. But

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then August twenty fourth of that same
year, I rented a start a car

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to stoplight. Didn't even know that
I was driving. I'm like, I

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came to I'm like, what just
happened? And I'm like, oh crap,

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I'm driving right now. And I
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my truck in reverse and tried to
take off, but there's a cop sitting

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at the stoplight, and they caught
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road at Walmart and put and took
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I started thinking it now, I
can't run, Now, I can't

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hide. Now I can't numb,
because that's what I was using alcohol for,

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was to numb all that I was
trying to keep, all that pain

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that's been packed in that I packed
in that moment when I'm not allowed to

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feel anything like it's it's it's I
tried to bubble up, but it's like

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my mind was just always running wild
to just keep me from feeling and what

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the only way I could get a
reprieve from my mind was to be blackout

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drunk. So now I can't run, I can't hide, I can't numb,

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and I'm sitting there with me and
me, you know, And I

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started talking to myself and I hear
a voice saying, John, you could

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have killed somebody. I'm like,
yeah, I know, I know,

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I'm already beating myself up and up. But you could have killed somebody.

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I'm like, yes, I know, but now luckily nobody got hurt,

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but they could have. And the
voice just kept saying, you could have

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killed somebody, John, And then
suddenly something snapped. It was like,

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wait a minute, I could have
killed somebody. Wait, I think I

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hear what you're saying now. And
it's like this little this little light appeared

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in the in the darkness, and
it showed up as an idea and that

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it was a thought, and it
was that John, you could have killed

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somebody. Yes, I yes,
I know the listen. That means one

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of your actions could hurt someone.
Yes, I'm like, yes, Well,

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if one of your actions could hurt
somebody, what could another one of

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your actions do? Like, what
could help somebody? So, if your

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actions could hurt somebody or help somebody, that means your actions actually matter.

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Correct, I'm like, yes,
So, if your actions matter, John,

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then that means you matter like well, I guess so. And if

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you matter, John, then maybe
life matters and maybe life isn't meaningless like

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whoa And so suddenly, in that
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new decision. As Tony Robbins says, all change, it's in the moment

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of decision that your destiny is shaped, and it's and it's all change happens

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in an instant, and it's the
instant that you make a new decision.

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In one moment, when I was
twelve years old, I made a decision,

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My life went into purer hell.
And in another moment, when I'm

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sitting in jail in the darkness,
another another decision. And I said,

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from this moment forward, every one
of my decisions will help people. Not

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never again, will I take an
action, will I make a decision that

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that hurts anyone. It's only ever
going to help people, and boom,

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I entered in a level two that
moment. Now there's still the physical menimstation,

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all the actions that have to come
from the new decision, but it

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was already done once the decision was
made, right right, good? So

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last level two is is level two
then making a decision, yes, yes,

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it's well, it's not necessarily do
good. That was just my decision

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at that moment. But the decision
is, uh, it's because level one

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is called disoriented. You've got no
orientation, no direction too, it's called

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goal oriented. This is where you've
got a direction, direction. This is

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where you've got a destination. This
is where you you you've got hope.

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You're like, all I gotta do
is get there now. This is this

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is the collective consciousness. Like the
majority of people are actually in level one,

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but their goal is level two.
They think that's the end of the

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game success. If I can just
achieve the goals, so I can get

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this house, I can get the
spouse, if I can get the bank

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account of whatever the things are that
we were programmed to believe was gonna make

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us happy. That's what Level two
is all about getting all those things.

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But you know, you got people
like Robin Williams, Michael Jackson, Whitney

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Houston, Elvis Presley. They got
it. They won the game of level

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two. They set the goals and
they got They got the whole world to

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love them except for one person.
They couldn't get themselves to love themselves because

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Level two it's it's a it's a
misdirection. It's still going you're because you're

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still thinking it's out there. And
so when I did Level two, my

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um my goal is like I'm gonna
build a family and I'm gonna make them

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happy. Like now, I didn't
know how naive that goal was. Back

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then. I didn't know that you
that you couldn't make someone happy. I

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literally thought that I could. I
could make a family. I could build

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a family and make them happy.
And uh, I thought that was possible,

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And I thought that was the I
thought that was the goal, was

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to make other people happy. And
so I became there's a successful. I'd

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started with real estate investing. I
found a mentor who has who taught me

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real estate investing. I mean I
had to sign up first course. It

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was ten grand that I didn't have, and I had to come up with

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that money. But I found the
money. I'd signed up for the course,

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and I became very successful within my
first eighteen months, started with no

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money, no credit, no clue. I'd made four hundred thousand dollars.

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Within two years, I built a
multimillion dollar empire. And so now I'm

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super successful. I'm making all this
money I got by the big house.

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I got my I got a girlfriend, she's got some she got twin boys,

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and I got my mom in the
house. And like, I'm doing

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everything right, yet everyone's getting more
and more miserable. And like, I'm

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doing it all right. I'm getting
nobody has to work, We're all on

407
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.400
vacations all the time. Everybody's got
everything they want. Why are you all

408
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.400
miserable? My job is to make
you happy, and you're not happy,

409
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.920
which means I'm a failure. And
so I just kept trying harder and harder

410
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:03.079
and harder and now and I started
doing all the personal development. You know,

411
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:07.039
I've now at this point having like
back then it was about three hundred

412
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.680
thousand dollars I had invested in personal
development in this little journey in level two,

413
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.880
because I learned, Okay, how
did I make a lot of money?

414
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.119
Well, I got I found a
recipe. I found somebody who had

415
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:18.799
made a lot of money and said, hey, how do you do that?

416
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.519
And I paid for the recipe.
So I got addicted to personal development

417
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.720
to try to figure out how to
fix this. But the harder I tried,

418
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.599
the worse it got. And it
got all the way to the point

419
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.279
where my mom's on hospice. The
hospice nurses looked me right in the eyes

420
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.319
that she's gonna be done in two
weeks. Prepare like, what, my

421
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.400
mom's dying, No, it's can't. And my girlfriend's taking twenty oxs you

422
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:47.720
got in today her boys are punching
each other in the face, punching holes

423
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.839
in the wall, and they're on
drugs. I'm like, I'm doing everything

424
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:56.440
right, and there is I had
one last last ditch effort. I my

425
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.480
girlfriend's brother. She raised her brothers
because she didn't have a dad and her

426
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.440
mom was an alcoholic, so she
had younger brothers. She raised them,

427
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:10.559
but they both got addicted to drugs
and one of them called and says,

428
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.160
hey, John, I just got
out of jail. I was I was

429
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.720
hooked on crack. I was stealing
stuff so that I could buy crack,

430
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.440
and I went to jail for that. But I'm off of crack now I'm

431
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.640
out of jail, but I've burnt
on my bridges. Can you can you

432
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.000
just help me out? And I'm
like, everything's going to complete crap in

433
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.880
my whole life. But I'm like, well, this is my last shot

434
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.759
right here. What if I can
just fix her brother? If I could

435
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.279
do this, because now I got
all the tools from Tony Robbins and all

436
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.960
this stuff, the personal development,
I bet I can fix him and then

437
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.599
that will make her happy, that
will make my girlfriend happy. That'll do

438
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.960
it. So but done, I
put my hero cape on one last time

439
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.160
and move him into the house in
the midst of everything going to complete crap.

440
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.079
And then within a couple of weeks, he stole my credit card,

441
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.559
charged up houses of dollars, stole
all my tools for rehabbing houses, and

442
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:08.000
stole my truck. And I'm like, why my mom's dying. Like I'm

443
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.119
like, you've gotta be kidding me. I give up. I give up,

444
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:17.839
and I laid down my head and
for the first time in my life,

445
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.640
I said I failed. I'm a
failure. I was the it didn't

446
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.559
over till I win kind of guy. But this time I said I failed.

447
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.119
I'm a failing because I'd given everything. There was nothing left in me,

448
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.079
so I had to admit defeat.
But the moment that I laid down

449
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.039
my head and said I failed,
I'm a failure, It's like instantly this

450
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.480
weight lifts off my shoulders and I
was like, it's like this phoenix emerges

451
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.519
from a fire, and I'm like, what just happened? And what happened

452
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.559
in that moment is everything that I
thought I was supposed to be died.

453
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.440
I couldn't be it. So I
was I was like, well, if

454
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.519
I'm not that, what am I? Who am I? And suddenly I

455
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:53.920
was free? And that was when
I entered into level three, which is

456
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:59.640
called journey oriented. Were you actually
make it a present moment? Wow?

457
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.720
Wow? Fascinating? Yeah? Oh
yeah, yeah, that's fascinating. So

458
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:08.599
you're there in that journey moment where
you're really what discovering who you really are

459
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:15.160
and who you can really become?
Or well what pretty much the journey Molana,

460
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.680
Well, so what happened? It
was it was like an instantaneous like

461
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:23.319
suddenly I knew who I wasn't and
because I've been so hyper focused on who

462
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.160
I was supposed to be the goal, like all I gotta do is this

463
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.519
and then I'll make them happen.
But suddenly that whole thing was gone and

464
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.680
I didn't have to be anybody.
See, we were so trained, like

465
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:40.279
again through the educational system, through
all of our domestication and doctor nature process,

466
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:41.880
that we're not love for who we
are, We're loved for what we

467
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.480
do. And that's all of us
have been trained at. You're not love

468
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.680
for who you are, your love
for what you do. As long as

469
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.079
you do enough, then you'll be
enough. And so I was doing my

470
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.400
way into worthiness. We're trying to
learn and earn our way into heaven.

471
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.559
But you can't wait. So I've
said it multiple times. Ready we leave

472
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.319
what is real in the pursuit of
what appears to be. You're already there,

473
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:06.480
you just can't see it because what
you believe to be true it's true

474
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:10.240
for you, even if it's a
lie. And so you can believe a

475
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.000
lie and make it more real than
real and block yourself from perceiving reality seeing

476
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.880
the truth that everything is perfect.
We're all one and love is the only

477
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:22.039
thing that exists. So what happened
is that my egoic identity that was the

478
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:30.279
perceived separation from God from love.
It just the cage just fell apart,

479
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.480
and suddenly I merged with everything for
all of eternity. It was like there

480
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.200
was no longer There's no longer a
box I was in. I literally like

481
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:43.160
I went through experience like lifetimes all
at the same time. I was like

482
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:47.279
perceiving reality, like just shooting in
from different perspectives. I'm like, I'm

483
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.920
like thousands of years ago, I'm
looking through somebody's eyes, and then suddenly

484
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.960
I'm five hundred years in the future
and I'm like and it was just literally

485
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.240
all of eternity. I could see
from every perspective and it's just like I

486
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.880
was no longer in a box,
and I emerged in to the oneness and

487
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.599
I emerge in the formless love.
That's what Level three was all about,

488
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.400
okay, and then moving into level
four was all about. So then what

489
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:16.000
happens now Most people will never make
it. Most people never make it pass

490
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.880
level one, and then if they
do, there rare few that actually really

491
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:25.319
start to be very successful Level two. They if they if they actually do

492
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:31.319
feel like succeed in level two.
They they can't let it go. They

493
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:37.440
don't because they got one. But
the thing is, what works for you

494
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.079
in the previous level is the exact
opposite, Like it's going to imprison you

495
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.359
in the in the next one.
So in level h in level two,

496
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:50.039
you needed the clarity, you needed
the focus, you need to this this

497
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.160
no matter what. But level three, you've got to release your attachment to

498
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:58.960
outcome. That's the thing that saved
you from level one was your attachment to

499
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.240
outcome the goal no matter what.
But that's the thing that's going to imprison

500
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.480
you in level three is you got
to release at all I no matter what,

501
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.519
Everything's okay. And so I got
to this place. I became very

502
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.559
spiritual. You know, I just
I was no, I was formless love,

503
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.719
I was no longer. I didn't
care about the body anymore. I

504
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.400
you know, I just was just
you know, I wound up going for

505
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.199
millions of dollars and a whole bunch
of houses to homeless again, Like literally,

506
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:30.079
I got no money, no car, and I'm just I remember just

507
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.719
like walking around looking at the trees
and just I'm just happy. But no,

508
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:42.039
for no reason, I just am. And so what happened next with

509
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:47.239
me is then I started to get
moved back into this perspective from the from

510
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:52.639
the separate self perspective, but I
continue to carry the awareness of the oneness.

511
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:57.079
But I'm still I'm back in the
body looking from the limited perspective,

512
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.400
and I'm starting to become aware of
the body again, like okay, it's

513
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.840
like I'm in this body right now. But what I started to look around,

514
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.280
and I'm seeing all these people that
are trapped inside of the cage that

515
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.679
I just got out of. Now
I realize it's a self imposed prison the

516
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.840
handles on the inside, but they
don't know that. So level four is

517
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.960
called value oriented. Now I've got
everything that I've ever been looking for.

518
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.360
It's all I realized that it was
in me the whole time. But so

519
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.320
now level four is basically you start
you start unlocking cages or at least showing

520
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.639
people where the handle is. And
so it's just you're just now waking others

521
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.280
up. But it's just who you
are. You're not doing it for any

522
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.679
specific reason. You're not doing it
to try to get anything. Because so

523
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.000
level one is called disordented. Level
two is called goal oriented. Level three

524
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.119
is called journey oriented. Level four
is called value oriented. So you're just

525
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:50.920
here to provide value. There's nothing
to get because you're holding complete already.

526
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.320
There's no there's nothing missing in you. So you just start overflowing like a

527
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.840
fountain. And and it's like,
well, that's got to be the end

528
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.199
of the game, right, you'd
think that's got level four. It's got

529
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.400
to be it, because what better
could there be? And so, uh,

530
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.000
the next one's level five, and
it's called soul oriented, and level

531
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.360
five is it's not my will,
but thine be done? And how what

532
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:19.000
happens in this is the problem of
level four is you can't see the picture

533
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:27.599
when you're inside of it. An
example would be like let's say you're this

534
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.400
is you know, just example.
It's you know, probably not a real

535
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.800
example, but imagine you see somebody
over on the side of a cliff and

536
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.880
you're like, ohoh, well,
let me go help this person. Looks

537
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.519
like they're falling, and you go
over there and pull them and save them.

538
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.760
But then once you pull them back
and save them, like all right,

539
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.679
and now you're not doing this for
any accolade. You're just doing it

540
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.000
just because you you felt like it
was a good thing to do, Like

541
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.159
they were falling and you pulled them
up and you saved them, and you're

542
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:53.639
like, all right, great job. No, you know, not for

543
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.719
any not trying to get anything out
of this. It was pure intentions.

544
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.000
But then you look over and you
see somebody falling and you realize that the

545
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.280
person you just saved was actually trying
to save somebody else. But the one

546
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:13.000
that you pulled wasn't in trouble.
They were holding somebody that was in trouble,

547
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.440
and you couldn't see that from your
limited perspective. You really thought you

548
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.599
were doing something good, but you
couldn't see from the limited perspective. So

549
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.920
level five it's it's it's basically you're
tapping into the GPS system. So it's

550
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.000
not my will, but thine be
done. Where now you're you're living life

551
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:32.320
fully from you, you're fully embodied
here on earth. You're fully aware of

552
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:38.239
the oneness and there's the connection between
the two, and you're only ever listening.

553
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.519
It's like you walk by faith,
not by side. You don't ever

554
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.800
let your mind decide anything. You
don't try to. Like when I was

555
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.400
in level two, I was playing
chess, with life, and I was

556
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.039
like, if I do this,
then that'll happen. If I do that,

557
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.039
that'll in level five. You don't
ever ever do that. You just

558
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:52.880
say now my will, but thime
be done, Love, What would you

559
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.880
have me do here? You don't
even have to say it anymore. It

560
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.360
just starts to happy. You know, it's just happening. And so you're

561
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.159
just listening. Seek first the Kingdom, and the Kingdom is within you.

562
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.679
So you're just living in the Kingdom
and you do things from the Kingdom,

563
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.880
and all of your actions are representation
of the Kingdom. So the Kingdom of

564
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:13.719
God forms around you here on earth
through your actions. But you're not doing

565
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.000
to get anything. It's like the
Master does nothing yet leaves nothing undone.

566
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.719
You are being done by the Kingdom. You don't do things for the kingdom.

567
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.039
You do things from the Kingdom.
You don't do things for worthiness.

568
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.519
You do things from the worthiness,
and it just starts to reflect on around

569
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.440
you and people start to rise up. Okay, so let's talk about that

570
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.360
from him, because I guarantee you
a number of the audience are not necessarily

571
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:39.920
believers in God and the Kingdom and
the things that you're talking about but many

572
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:45.440
of them have a belief of a
universal divinity. They have a belief of

573
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.000
all these different things. So how
do you explain this to people who may

574
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:55.239
not have that belief that you have, and quite frankly, I have to,

575
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.039
But how do you help these people
to understand and that there is a

576
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:07.760
universal power out there if they're able
to tap into it, that literally can

577
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:15.880
give them the information and the thoughts
and the wisdom and the intuitiveness to know

578
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.760
what they can do in a positive
way to lift people up without necessarily being

579
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.719
in that for where you just you
know, want some kind of accolades or

580
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:34.360
something. Yeah, So I don't
really do anything for that for the people.

581
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.039
It's because at this point where my
specific role is to help people who

582
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:45.159
love the truth live the truth,
and most people, most people can't hear

583
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.719
where I'm speaking from. They think, like there's a lot of people that

584
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.320
will think they'll think that I'm saying
something from a different place than like when

585
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.519
we're talking about earlier about the perspective, like people don't understand it, don't

586
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.039
see reality, They're living in a
false perspective. So there's really nothing that

587
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.280
I could possibly say for them to
hear where what I'm saying is coming from

588
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.519
until it's time for them, until
until it's you know, that's part of

589
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.119
their journey. But I mean,
I just say to people, hey,

590
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.920
if you can just take responsibility for
your reality, just handle that. Once

591
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.800
you've got that done, all this
other stuff is gonna unfold. You're gonna

592
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.000
start to see the truth. I
was an evangelist atheist for twenty years,

593
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.119
like it was my job to convince
people God wasn't real, and I was

594
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.639
all in, that's certain about it, and I was completely wrong. And

595
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.760
so I understand like where everybody is
on the journey, I think, and

596
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.920
there is nothing anybody could have said
to me back then. If I would

597
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.760
have heard somebody even say God,
I'm like, you're an idiot. I'm

598
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:42.679
never gonna listen to another word that
you say, which was fine because I

599
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.719
was down in level one, like
there's no way I could have heard what

600
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.199
it was being said anyway. So
it's just you know, allowing people their

601
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.320
space, allowing people their time,
allowing them go through their journey, and

602
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.039
when they're when they're ready. It's
like you know, when the student is

603
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.599
ready, the teacher will appear.
And when the teachers are ready to the

604
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.679
student will appear. It just it
just all, It all happens when it's

605
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.639
supposed to happen, and you So
there's a there's a number one mistake and

606
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.840
each of these levels that will that
will trip you up. Level one,

607
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.599
the mistake is caring what other people
think. As long as you're caring about

608
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.559
what other people think, then you're
gonna do what other people do. If

609
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.679
you're doing what other people are doing, you're gonna get what they're getting,

610
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.280
and what they're getting in good well
good in the in the you know,

611
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.840
duality reality. So the level two, the mistake is lack of clarity and

612
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.599
focus. You know, most people
are just sitting there running around kind of

613
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.400
get pushed around by the world.
They you know, if you don't have

614
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.760
if you don't have a vision for
your life. Without vision, the people

615
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.719
perish. You don't have a vision, you don't know where you're going.

616
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.760
Then you're being played. You're conforming
to the patterns of this world, whether

617
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.039
you know it or not, which
means you're getting lost in the maya and

618
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.079
the illusions you're getting. You're getting
driven by lies and don't even realize it

619
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:52.800
until you see where you're going level
three, the massive mistake is attachment to

620
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.199
outcome, and then level four the
number one mistake is giving to get,

621
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:05.119
and level five the massive mistake is
trying versus allowing. And so I got

622
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.280
one job, stay out of the
way. And that's been my job ever

623
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.360
since entering into level five. It's
just stay out of the way, because

624
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.639
I can see that there's there's John. John's still here, John Jay.

625
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.519
And it's like I can't like when
I'm just saying John's still here, It's

626
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:21.400
like he just came online when I'm
talking about him right now. But it's

627
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:22.559
like, I've got one job to
stay out of the way. And there's

628
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.239
a difference between when the source is
speaking through me versus Mini me, little

629
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:31.880
John, the false identity that that
perceives reality. There's a difference when they

630
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.480
speak and and so all I'm doing
is just observing. And I can tell

631
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.000
when John stands up and like,
just sit down, John, relax,

632
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.199
just enjoy the journey, just enjoy
the ride. And so he just sits

633
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.519
back down. He just gets to
enjoy the ride, and the allowing happens.

634
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.599
And that's when it's coming from the
Kingdom, and it just came and

635
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.719
you said something that I think is
so important, and that's just something that

636
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.639
I've talked about quite a bit.
You know, understanding that each one of

637
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:06.920
us there's just an amazing goodness in
us. There's a divinity within us that

638
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.840
if only we would allow ourselves to
tap into that, it literally will allow

639
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:17.440
us to have a life that we're
touching others lives, not because we want

640
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.639
some kind of accolades, as you
say, but it's just a matter of

641
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.239
you know, I'm going to move
out of the way, and wherever I

642
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.599
can touch a life and lift a
life, that's where I want to be.

643
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:32.159
But that comes from that sense and
understanding, an awareness that within each

644
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.199
one of us there's this incredible divinity
and so many people as you, even

645
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.760
as you experienced as a child,
you got to the point where you didn't

646
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:46.119
believe that because of the experiences that
you had, and what a a miraculous

647
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:51.760
transition for you to be able to
go through each of those steps to the

648
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:57.199
point where you recognize that within each
one of us there's this divinity. And

649
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.360
you know what, it's not easy
for people to become aware that. So

650
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.480
I love I love the fact that
you're talking about those five steps and that

651
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.440
you actually went through them and you've
reached that point. And I can't even

652
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:15.159
imagine if the world was full of
people such as yourself, had that true

653
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.719
believing of the a eniting with one
of us get out of the way,

654
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.480
and how do we just serve and
help and love? What a difference that

655
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.639
would make in this world? Well, I actually so I live in that

656
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.320
world now because I live in a
village where people have made the journey.

657
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:37.480
They might not be fully complete along
the journey, but they've at least stepped

658
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.519
into the now. The truth is, we're all in level five all the

659
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.599
time. But what you believe to
be true, it is true for you,

660
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.679
even if it's a lie. We're
so powerful. If we believe we're

661
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:52.400
not, then we're not so.
But the people that are here in this

662
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:57.119
village, they've they've all connected all
the way fully, all the way down

663
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.280
to the source. I say life
is an eighteen journey from the head to

664
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.079
the heart, from the mind,
through the emotions to the heart, from

665
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:07.159
slavery to freedom, from free from
Egypt to the Promised Land. But so

666
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.440
there's when I when I described that, I use also this metaphor. If

667
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.840
there's like there's three You've got three
us. There's three identities. There's your

668
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.800
ideal self, which is who you
think you're supposed to be so people will

669
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.280
love you. That's in your mind. Then here's your your real self,

670
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.239
what you're really feeling, which is
your emotions, like I just don't feel

671
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.599
like I'm enough. And then underneath
that, so you got to take off

672
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.079
the mask and just be vulnerable and
say, yeah, I just feel like

673
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.800
I'm too stupid, or I'm too
old, or i'm too young, or

674
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.840
I'm too ugly, whatever the thing
is, and you just feel it fully.

675
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.639
We're not here to feel happy,
we're here to feel fully. So

676
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.159
when you can feel that fully,
you'll cross the river and you'll drop into

677
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.719
the kingdom, which that's where your
your true self is. This is your

678
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.400
infinite, eternal being. This that's
perfect and pure and whole and complete,

679
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:58.599
always has been, always will be. It's untouched. It's always been untouched.

680
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.480
Like even when you've been dance around
up here in the illusions, it

681
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:07.639
didn't change the truth. It only
changed your experience in time. But eternity

682
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.440
is still intact. So so we're
getting real close to the end again.

683
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.280
But I want you to talk real
quickly about your village and what you're doing

684
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.119
with that. Yeah, so we
it was a vision that was given to

685
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:29.519
me and twenty fifteen, it's basically
I saw what was coming in my book.

686
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:31.519
When you read in my book it
talks about and I wrote the book

687
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:37.079
like eight seven or eight years ago. It was written through me at while

688
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.760
I was doing a forty day fast, but talked about these two trains where

689
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:43.880
on one train, the people are
waking up, getting more connected with each

690
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.800
other, more connected with nature,
moving into unconditional love. On the other

691
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.599
trained, people are going more asleep, more disconnected from themselves, more disconnected

692
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.400
from each other, more living in
an artificial world, and more living in

693
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.679
unconditional fear. And at the point
when the book was written, the trains

694
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.360
were pretty close where people could jump
back and forth pretty easily. That the

695
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:06.599
trains have been splitting ever since,
and the book was saying there's gonna be

696
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.519
a time where the trains split where
you can't get to the other train anymore.

697
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.679
You won't even be able to see
the other train anymore. So this

698
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:17.679
I'm birthing a new earth over here
which there's people are just living in unconditional

699
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:22.800
love. They're being their true selves. They're not being false, fake artificial

700
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.159
world. It's everything's organic, everything's
real, everything's natural, everything's just the

701
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.039
way that it was its original intent
to divine design, and the people are

702
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.800
all like that. And so we're
just here like literally living in the Garden

703
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.800
of Eden, and we got our
own food, water, shelter, energy

704
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.920
community, and it's all built around
this purpose. And so I always knew

705
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.119
that this first one, this was
the prototype. We finished the prototype,

706
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.480
and then we're already expanding to we
got another village, and then they're just

707
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.119
going to about to start expand all
across the world. So as the people

708
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:58.800
are staying in the old world,
they're it's getting further into fear more disconnected.

709
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.719
They're going to be moving into their
little fifteen minute cities, the smart

710
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:06.280
cities. And then but on the
other side, the New Earth people are

711
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.840
going to be just stepping into the
sovereign it's a sovereign surrender society. They're

712
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:15.679
just these villages where people are just
living in harmony with each other, in

713
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.760
harmony with nature, and in an
infinite abundance, like there's no scarcity here,

714
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.519
Like everybody's just living in abundance.
It's really cool. So here's the

715
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.599
question, because not everybody can head
down to Costa Rica and do that.

716
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.880
Is it possible in your opinion,
for people to reach that level and live

717
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.760
that life just where they happen to
be. Yeah, it's good. Well

718
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.320
that's where it has to start because
wherever you go there you are so again,

719
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.079
see the kingdom, and the kingdom
is within you. So you've got

720
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.360
to you've got to drop into the
kingdom. And when you're in the kingdom,

721
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.760
you're in unconditional love, love and
peace and joy, not dependent upon

722
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.400
circumstances and conditions. No matter what's
going on around you, you're still good

723
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:59.440
that. It's at that point the
circumstances don't affect you, you actually affect

724
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:05.119
them. And then to the degree
that you stay there is it's gonna form

725
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.800
like a bubble around you that people
can start stepping in and stepping up with

726
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.280
you, or you might just then
be called to, you know, go

727
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.679
into a direction, leave where you're
at it. You you won't really know

728
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.360
where you're supposed to be until you
get to the kingdom. Once you get

729
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.519
to them, that you might be
directed to take some steps into different directions.

730
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:27.679
But or it might just berth around
you right where you are, but

731
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.159
you'll know, but you'll know.
So how do people find your book?

732
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:36.679
You got to find your purpose Book
dot com and you can go download it

733
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.480
for free. It's find your Purposebook
dot com. Just put your name in

734
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:44.960
email address. You'll get the PDF
and the audio version and uh free so

735
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.559
shows on Amazon you can get It's
on Amazon. It's also on Audible.

736
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:54.880
Uh so is the audible free?
Is the Audible tree? Nah? I

737
00:49:54.920 --> 00:50:00.239
think I think it's like fifteen bucks
or eleven bucks or something a if you

738
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:01.800
want to, you can just go
to find your Purposebook dot com. If

739
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.079
you want to pay fifteen bucks or
whatever much it is, just go to

740
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:12.360
audible or you know, but you're
gonna yeah, listen, this has been

741
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.639
wonderful and thank you so much.
I you know, one thing I love

742
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:21.440
about doing this show is being able
to interview people setus yourself, that are

743
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:27.519
making a difference. And everybody has
a different life experience, but ultimately the

744
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:31.280
goal is to reach that point as
you talk about where that self awareness and

745
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:37.079
that love and where you've moved away
from all of this have to and should

746
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:43.280
and ought to and really become the
person that you always have been through the

747
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.880
eternities. So thank you so much
for being on the show. I really

748
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:52.559
appreciate it. You're welcome, thank
you for having me. And the website

749
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.280
that you just shared, is that
also where they can learn more about you

750
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.039
and about your villages and so forth. If you want to check out more

751
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:04.000
about the villages, you can go
to this is Earthwaking Village dot com.

752
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.519
But if if you go to Earthwaking
Village dot org, it's got a little

753
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.280
video of our village and you can
go and you okay, so that's earth

754
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:17.239
Waking Village dot org. Yeah,
and there's all kind of stuff on there.

755
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.199
So excellent, Jonathan, thank you
so much for being on Michelle,

756
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.639
and all right, thank you for
joining us. Hope you've been really enjoyed

757
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:29.039
it, and we look forward to
have you join us again soon