Jan. 26, 2026

Holly Copeland on Inner Rewilding: Meditation, Healing Frequencies & Real Joy

Holly Copeland on Inner Rewilding: Meditation, Healing Frequencies & Real Joy
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Dr. Doug talks with Holly (@rewildingholly) about her journey from conservation scientist to spiritual guide after a health and existential crisis. They explore quick meditations, spirituality vs. religion, overcoming ego stories, and frequency-based healing (tuning forks). Holly’s 4 A’s—Awaken, Attune, Allow, Align—offer a practical path to joy, purpose, and service. https://www.hollycopeland.co/

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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Already, welcome to the show.

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Thanks doctor Doug. Im so delighted to be here.

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I notice you're closing your eyes. I assume was a

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little quick meditation for a few seconds.

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That's right, That's exactly right.

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I love that.

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So hey share with the audience where you're from and

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also kind of the story the background.

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It's always fascinating to me.

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Everyone has a different journey, a different story about what

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brings them to the point of doing what they're doing now,

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which is why we have you on the podcast.

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Yeah, thank you. Well, I'm based in California, Northern California,

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so that's where I'm calling from. And my story really

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starts as an ecologist. Well it starts as a child

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who absolutely was in love with the environment and who

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did a lot of camping and backpacking and you know,

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scampering around the oceans of California and tide pooling and

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things like that. And then I became a conservation scientist

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as a career, and I studied that and I did

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that career for twenty five years working for your conservancy,

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and I had a really beautiful, prosperous career there. But

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about in my mid forties, I came to a point

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where a number of things collided in my personal life.

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One was I got mold poisoning, so I had a

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really significant health crisis. And the other was I had

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that I guess you'd call it maybe spiritual crisis, that

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feeling you know, after your kids are you know, you're

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not just in diapers anymore. I don't know if you

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have kids or not, but my kids. Okay, there we go.

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So you know, you come out of the haze of

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early of your kids, you know, you can actually feel

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like you can be a person again. And I was

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really sad, really sad about the planet, really sad about

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what humans are doing, feeling like nothing I did as

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an environmentalist whatever be enough, and feeling weighted down by

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the destruction of the planet. And I would say that

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it just my heart felt really heavy, and it was

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a sense where like when I was younger, I had

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that kind of you know, we're going to beat this,

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We're going to do you know, humanity is going to

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rise up, And it just didn't feel that way anymore,

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and fed it just felt like I just felt really defeated.

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And despite the fact that you know, I had everything

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in the world in sense of, you know, a loving husband,

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and my kids were successful, and I had a really

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good job, and I didn't really know how to be happy.

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That's the bottom line. I wasn't happy. And I was like,

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if all of this has happened and I'm not happy,

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you know, how could I ever be happy? And do

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I even have a right to be happy? You know?

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Do I have a right to be happy? When so

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many people in the world are suffering, or so many

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animals are suffering, and that existential crisis in my own

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minds kind of wrestling sent me on a path of

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meditation and spiritual questing. I'd been actually into spirituality kind

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of throughout my life, but this sent me on a

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much deeper dive into that, and I did do a

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lot of deep meditation. I was meditating two hours a day.

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And the things that I discovered and the realizations that

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I had so profoundly changed my life. And I did

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find the happiness and the joy that was missing, and

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I got well through not through alternative medicine, through frequency,

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and I was so inspired by what had happened that

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I wanted to help others find the same joy and

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happiness and well being that I'd found.

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Oh wonderful. You know, it's so interesting. I mean, the

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world right now, as you say, is just a nightmare.

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And it's interesting to me that you know, initially we

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want to just try to save everything, and yet I

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think you've hit on such an important point. If we

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can number one save ourselves, and then number two start

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to reach out.

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Even if it's just with the one.

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Ultimately, if we can keep doing that, hopefully generations down

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the line, things are going to be so much better.

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Yeah, yeah, I you know, I think that's the path

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of devotion and service and that you know, that is

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its own path of awakening. Really, you know that what

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you said, and I say this to my clients all

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the time, like this is a put on your own

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oxygen mask first situation that we're in, you know, like

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we have to find our own well being and we

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can't expect others to do it for us. And that's

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that's the essence of the spiritual journey, in the spiritual quest, right,

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I mean, that's that's what we're here for. And then

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we turn around and we devote our lives to helping others.

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Yeah, and you know, I want to talk about spirituality.

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It's interesting as I was looking at different podcasts, I

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saw one that, quite frankly, was a little bit strange,

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and I was fascinated by the you know, the aspect

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of what they were saying, because you know, when we

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talk about spirituality, so often people think of religion and

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that type of thing, theology, and yet this podcast that

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I was listening to was really battering it down, you know,

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from a theological situation saying people have lost this concept

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of God and this whole purpose. And so as you

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look at it, and you know, I don't mean to

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be intrusive here, but as you talk about spirituality, are

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you speaking of a non god spirituality or are you

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talking about that inner light that each of us as

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children of God have received.

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Oh, that's such a beautiful question. So, I mean, there

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is a lot of confusion and mixing of religion and spirituality.

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At its heart, though there are many paths, and the

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truth is is that some people do find their way

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through Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism. And I would never

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be one to put any of that down. You know,

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I have a very blended religious history. I grew up

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with a Christian mother and a Jewish father, although it

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was quite secular in my house. But I have cousins

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who are devout Jews and they live beautiful lives, and

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I would never judge the path that they've taken and

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where that deep Judaism has gotten them. If that works

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for them, God bless them. I mean literally, I really

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feel that. And at the same time, I think that

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spirituality in general is pointing to the same one truth

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that transcends any given religion, religion maybe the path that

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a specific person gets to, but there is, ultimately, in

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my view, one God. There's one divine source, consciousness and way.

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Whether you call it God or living universe or service consciousness,

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whatever name you put on it, it's the same thing.

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It's the animate, living, a live, intelligent space that is

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operating in all of our lives, that is holding all

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of us, that is making everything that we see, in

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everything that we experience possible.

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Well, and I think that's so important.

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You know, so many people and you get into Christianity

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and so forth, Oh we were born in sin and

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all of that kind of stuff, which I don't happen

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to agree with, but I think it puts such an

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imprint of I'm not good enough type of situation in there.

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And yet if you look at it, and this is

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how I do it personally, is I look at it

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from the standpoint I guess, do I believe in God absolutely?

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And do I believe that we are children of God? Absolutely?

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And do I believe that His light is within each

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one of us?

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Absolutely?

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And so I think that's where the key comes in that,

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as you say, you know, we may use different words

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to explain that. But the reality is that within each

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one of us there is that light, there's that goodness,

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there's that love that so often has been somehow modified.

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In fact, I was listening just yesterday. I thought it

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was such a great example of talking about eggs and

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how so often we are within that eggshell and it's

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very difficult to break out of the egg shell. But

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it's only when we do that that we really start

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to experience the goodness of life.

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Yeah, yeah, beautiful, I completely agree, And I think you

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bring a good point. You know that. I mean, spirituality

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is its heart. Is what you're speaking to, is that

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this transcendent truth of the radiant being of light, God, source, universe,

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and what we call religion, you know, the dogma would be,

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you know, a specific belief like you know, we're born

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and sin, which is not what this transcendence crutuality.

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Is speaking to.

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So you know, that's to me where the distinction goes.

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But if we were to still the essence and the

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heart of the transcendent truth of each religion, they are

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they're apart from the specific dogma. I believe they're all

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speaking and pointing to the same one thing.

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Well, and you know, I've studied that, not as in

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depth as I'd like to, but as fascinating to me

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when we look at Hinduism, as Zaoism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism,

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all of those. If you get back and start to

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ignore all the stuff that man has created as a

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religion and get back to those original teachings from each

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of the leaders of the individual what we would call

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philosophies or religion, it's fascinating to me that they all

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come in with the same philosophy, may slightly different approach,

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but it's all the same philosophy of becoming, Yes, truly

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become who you really are.

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Yes, I agree with you.

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Yeah, So I love that.

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So, you know, you talk about different things, and I

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know that you approach on your website.

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I loved how you use the three a's. I think

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that's so fun.

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You know, so you've got awaken your true nature, attune

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to the living universe, and then align your wild heart.

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But you kind of go through each one of those

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and what brought you to that concept and philosophy in

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helping people?

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Yeah, well what that embodies. And there's actually a fourth one.

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I didn't put it right there.

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At the top.

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But there's a fourth one, which is allow, allow the flow.

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And all of those four embody the core truths of

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the path of inner rewilding. And that is a path

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that I that I created, That that cap sures the

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essence of the principles that I that were essential to

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my own path. And I actually have a book that

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by that name, in a Rewilding Really, yes, I do.

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And I in that book I describe both my path

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and then sort of my own story and then like

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a like a self help or teaching for you know

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what I'm about to describe. But in that path, these

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four these four points are like a mandala for me.

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They're like points on a compass, you know. So awakening

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we start in the east. Awaken to your true nature,

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which is this essential truth that we're just talking about

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right now, the recognition that you're not separate from source,

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that you are source. It's that simple. And you know,

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I have specific exercises and pointings back to your true nature.

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But that is the dissolving the illusion that we're separate.

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You know, that the ego is a separate identity, or

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that we're walking around as separate beings. And how we

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transcend that understanding is that core essence of the awaken

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to your true nature peace. That is the heart of

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all the spiritual teachings, right, So that is the first

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to our essential true nature. But we also have physical bodies,

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and our physical bodies are energetic, and there's this physical

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reality going on here. So how do we relate to

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that physical universe and how do we learn to live

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lives not just from an awakened nature, but actually more

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in tune and in coherence with this living three D

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and forty and five universe that we're experiencing. And that's

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what the attune to the living universe part is. So

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then it's about sort of starting to tune in and

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learning how we and into this subtle energies of the universe.

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this together and realize that you know that there is

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a subtle, energetic universe here that we're we are basically

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all giant radios sending and receiving energy, and we can

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learn to become more coherent and attune to that living energy.

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that's where the tuning forks come in and and all

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then allow is the third piece, and that is the

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surrender part of the path. So you know, once we attune,

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then there becomes a kind of letting go and deep

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trust back into this the source consciousness. And at the

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and her core pointing is feel the feeling, drop the story.

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what's actually here and drop the story that we're telling

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ourselves about it, we can let the energy that we're

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that is blocking move and energy is just resistance to

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what's here. So this then becomes kind of how we

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act from a place of flow and ease, Like how

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do you actually surf the wave of life?

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and that moves energy. So that's that third piece allow

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and then the fourth is aligned to your wild heart.

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a kind of shift from operating from the kind of

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mental construct up here down into the heart space here,

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and learning to live from an aligned heart means really

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feeling deeply and moving from the space of the heart

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and then allowing source God divine to kind of be

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the will that's moving in your life and guides you

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everything also starts to flow from there. So that's where

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we have created our own story, and that is affected

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by ego, that's affected by you know, the imprints that

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that that type of memory. And so it's fascinating to

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me and as you mentioned the Buddhist nun, and I've been,

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you know, reading a new book now on Buddhism because

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I happened to be here in Thailand, so it fascinates me.

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have in our minds are the things that create suffering,

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things that create frustration, things that create anger, and we're

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not really enjoying, as you say, that heart felt existence.

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And how how do you help someone, you know, when

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we talk about ego and wanting this and wanting that,

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and the stories around us that are really only the mind,

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how how do you help people to start to understand

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and to overcome those stories and help them to really

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get back into that sense of beingness of who they

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truly are.

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true nature Peace. That's why the path starts there, because

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the first knot we have to untie is the feeling

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of being an ego. As long as we're stuck in

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conceptual mind and story the conceptual mind, we are driven

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literally by the stories we're telling ourselves. And so what

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I absolutely love doing is first helping people get out

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of their own minds. In other words, and I use

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techniques from modern nondualism. Techniques from the lineage is mahamoudran

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z oak Chin in Tibet, where is what I was taught.

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we use or pointings, and these pointing help show somebody

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that they're not their thoughts, that they're not their mind,

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that they are what's beyond that. And so it can

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be even a mini meditation of five minutes sometimes is

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just enough to point somebody, you know, to recognize that

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you're not your thoughts. For example, your thoughts are what's changing.

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that was here an hour ago or a year ago

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your thoughts have come and gone.

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comes to my mind. I mean, we live in the world.

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We have to work it, you know, we have to

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deal with that and.

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And how do you how do you get out of

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the story in your mind and yet still do the

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things that we need to do on a daily basis.

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just because we're not operating from our mental construct doesn't

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mean we can't wash the dishes. So it isn't to

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become a nobody like blah. That's not actually what awakening is.

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an upgraded operating system that doesn't operate from the story

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we're telling ourselves, but operates from here, from this heart

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centered knowing that is connected to source and guided by

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Source and has full ability to operate and be in

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the world. But is It's like an upgraded operating system,

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but it is not operating from the conditioned mind. That's

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Well, and to me, that's interesting because then all of

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a sudden, instead of having to do do do in

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order to survive, you're actually doing and enjoying because it's

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just and a life and part of who you are.

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That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So we kind of

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get to caborcake and eat it too, right. And I

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often say that waking up for me is actually more

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like waking down, because the point isn't to transcend this

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human body and transcend into the angelic realms. This is

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a big Aha, that happened to me when for all

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of the shifts that happened to me, I was so

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in such pain that I really wanted like God or

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angels to like come down and kind of take me away.

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I had this feeling of wanting to escape because it

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was so painful to be human. But what I discovered

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in my journey was that real transcend real transcendence, real

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waking up was about becoming more embodied and feeling like

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I belong here and that I'm in love with life.

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So I get to be here and be fully human

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and love being human without the pain of the longing

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and the feeling like I need to escape. And that

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happens through really a deep falling in love with life

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and falling in love with who you are, because ultimately

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it's all actually a love journey. It's all about coming

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falling in love with ourselves in the world as it is,

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not as we wish it would be.

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Well, And you know, as center as you talk about

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angels and God coming down and we're all so visual

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and we all you know, are that way, but then

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you think about it, if we just open up ourselves

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and to become then very quietly those angels, God come

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in and help us to experience that. So it's fascinating

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how we want this, we want that, and that's the

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story of our minds. And yet as we eliminate that,

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all of a sudden what we're desiring actually can happen,

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that it happens without us even being aware of why

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That's exactly right. Yeah, because the mind that wants this

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isn't isn't that's not it. So we have to surrender

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that mind. We have to be on our knees oftentimes

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and I was on my knees many many times in

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this journey. You know, we have to be on our

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knees praying or begging or you know, calling out for help.

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And that's actually what it's like. The giving up is

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what allows the grace of spirit to come in.

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Yeah, amen to that.

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So as we tune our lives, and this is I

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think the most difficult. It's one thing philosophically to become aware.

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It's an entirely different thing to then actually attune our

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lives to that awareness and becoming.

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And how do you any any stories?

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Do you have any stories of people that you've helped

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where they face that difficulty, and yet somehow of them

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been able to now tune their lives and then move

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on with the other steps.

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Well, let me just speak to my own story, because

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that's someone that's really present here. But I remember coming

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the floor and there was just dog hare all over

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the floor, you know, and in my preview, and all

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of a sudden, as I was staring at all this

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dog hare, and you know, I'm like a mom and

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I've got young kids, and it's like, I go for

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my run, then I come home, then I have to clean,

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then I have to do the dishes, and I have

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to do the laundry, right, And I had in this

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moment as I looked at that, I had this recognition

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that it wasn't a problem, it was just dog care.

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It was actually just what was and a kind of

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grat It's just the funniest thing, but like this kind

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of grace descended on me, and I recognized that the

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one who'd made a problem out of the dog hare

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on the floor was the one that was in the

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way of me actually just feeling at peace with my

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life and the world. And so there's an essential recognition

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here of the way that our mind creates a problem

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with our lives, with the next thing we need to solve,

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whether it's to clean the floor or do the dishes

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or whatever. As though if we were to clean the

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floor or do the dishes, then we'd finally get some

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kind of peace or happiness. So this path is about

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finding the peace or happiness within what's here, within things

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as they are.

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Yeah, and you talk about the dog hair, and you

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know that can be so frustrating. I get that, And

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yet you think about what that dog does for your children,

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maybe for you or the family, and you know that

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totally devoted love that they exhibit, you know, And what

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a difference to look at the dog hair and just

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smile and being so grateful for that dog. And just

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the fact that I write there's a pain about the

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hair versus looking at the hair and just being so

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upset and so forth.

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It just changes the whole atmosphere.

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That's exactly right. That's such a beautiful example. That's exactly

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right if you see it as the gift of the

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dog being in your house or a sink full of dishes,

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because I have children, and I get to have children

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in my house, you know, like when we embrace the

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thing and see it as actually what we've called in.

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I called in children into my life and as a result, yes,

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I have dishes, but I could focus on the children

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that are eating this food that I'm making. I could

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focus on the dog. I could focus on any number

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of things. And once if we do that flip, you know,

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to really see that we've chosen what's there and the

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joy and what they're bringing, it can change everything. They

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will change everything.

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Yeah, and you know on your website there was a

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quote that I just absolutely love and we're going to

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get into this now, Albert Einstein future medicine will be

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the medicine of frequencies.

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You know, Oh my goodness.

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When we start talking about that and then you talk

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about the ancient wisdom healers using frequencies.

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And sound vibration, all of that type of thing. Could

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you talk to the audience a little bit about the

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background of that.

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Sure, I would love to. So, you know, and I

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love that that quote comes from Albert Einstein because he

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really is like the you know, I think collective agreement

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would be. He's one of the greatest scientists of all time. Yes,

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so the fact that he said that that future medicine

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will be the medicine of frequencies. You know, I really

471
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.880
think speaks to where his own mind was at. That

472
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:43.839
we live in an energetic universe, and that that energetic

473
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.440
universe is you know, at work all the time, and

474
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.240
just for people to recognize that our current medicine paradigm

475
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.359
is biochemical, not energetic. So every time we have a pill,

476
00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:59.880
we take a pill or we work there there were

477
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.440
from the biochemical paradigm, but there is a whole world

478
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.400
of medicine out there that is energetic, you know, and

479
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:13.720
there you know, we've had you know, different energetic oric

480
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.240
reiki healers, things like that, but what we're talking about,

481
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.880
and those are beautiful, but what we're actually, what I'm

482
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:23.319
actually talking about is the way that we can use

483
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:28.200
frequencies and sound to heal. And this has been done

484
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.440
throughout for millennia throughout humans. You know, back way back

485
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:34.440
in Egypt, we're using sound and there's all kinds of

486
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:39.839
people studying Egypt and the Pyramids is being sound chambers

487
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.519
for healing. And there's a whole world out there for this.

488
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.160
But what I got really into through my own healing

489
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:50.519
quest with mold and healing from mold was the power

490
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:53.480
of tuning forks. And I studied under this incredible woman

491
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:57.599
named Eileen Macousick who brought the power of I'm going

492
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.759
to grab one, brought the power of tuning forks into

493
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.039
my life and just looks like this, just a very

494
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.839
simple fork, and each fork has a frequency. And what

495
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.640
I learned through her is that all organs and tissues

496
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.519
in the body have a frequency, and they have like

497
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:18.559
what's called a resonant frequency, a frequency that you could

498
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:23.319
think of your body like an orchestra, and each organ

499
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.759
is an instrument, and that instrument can be attuned to

500
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.279
a certain frequency and then it vibrates and we have

501
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:33.519
a beautiful symphony playing. But we could think about disease

502
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.880
as actually that one of those organs is not in

503
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.559
its perfect frequency, and we can help it come back.

504
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.640
It wants to be in hormone, It wants to be

505
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.359
in its native resonant frequency, and it will get there,

506
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.359
and it can get there through the power of hearing

507
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:56.160
a resonant frequency. So if we bring a certain tuning

508
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.960
fork five twelve or whatever into the field, our bodies,

509
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:04.960
because they're energetic beings, will start to attune to those

510
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.279
frequencies and that attunement is the healing process.

511
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.920
Well, and as you talk about frequencies, what comes to

512
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.000
my mind is self veggio frequencies that you get. You've

513
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:20.119
got the frequencies of bowls. You're talking about tuning forks.

514
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:24.240
What is there a difference or are they all similar?

515
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.480
And yet it just depends on what seems to connect

516
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:28.400
with you the most.

517
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.079
There are just you know, it's a great question. So

518
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.599
there's just different techniques for using sound in different ways.

519
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.000
I use this method that I learned from my Leen

520
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:44.359
Mecousic that works. She calls it biofield tuning. And in

521
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.240
biofield tuning, the biofield is what we have kind of

522
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.960
conventionally called the aura, but in bo that we call

523
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.680
it the biofield. It's actually an energetic field that surrounds

524
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.680
the body. It goes about six feet out. Everyone has one.

525
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.119
We have a torus shaped field with a positive and

526
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:07.279
a negative charge. Everything every being has this energetic field

527
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.599
around it, this oric or energetic field. And there's science

528
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.920
on this, and I'm not just speaking in a woo

529
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.519
woo way. There's actually credible science and scientists who are

530
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:20.640
studying the biofield, like Shamani Jane, and they've written papers

531
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.440
on it, so you can go look this up and

532
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.559
you know, look up the science of biofield and working

533
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.720
with the biofield. And this biofield is a plasmic. It's

534
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:38.440
called bioplasma. And what we do in biofield tuning is

535
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.880
we bring a tuning fork into the field, and the

536
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.200
field stores memories. So memories aren't actually stored in the brain,

537
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.920
they're stored in the field. And there's a record of

538
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.680
every experience you've ever had in the field. And so

539
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.640
what we call trauma could be we could call that

540
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.440
like an out of tune or dissonant place in the field.

541
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.759
And what I do with the tuning fork is I

542
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:06.519
bring it into the field and it that dissonant place

543
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.720
in the field that wants to be coherent, comes into

544
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.519
coherence and then releases and that's the healing process.

545
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.640
So I want to hear that hit that a little harder.

546
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.160
I want to hear that tuning fork.

547
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.720
I'm going to turn on the original sound so you

548
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:22.240
can hear it.

549
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.920
So this is the Okay, what frequency is that?

550
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.160
That's five twenty eight Okay, frequency of love? What do

551
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:29.720
you feel.

552
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.240
Yeah, I was just fascinated by just the frequency itself,

553
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:36.519
and I like that.

554
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.559
Yeah, it's also the frequency of DNA repair. It's a

555
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:41.279
very very important frequency.

556
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.839
So how many how many do you have?

557
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.759
I have? Oh my goodness, I haven't even counted recently.

558
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.400
I probably have at least thirty tuning forks.

559
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.440
Do you really? Yeah? Wow?

560
00:32:58.839 --> 00:32:59.279
Yeah?

561
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.880
So how how does someone I mean, you know, you

562
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.359
work with someone in doing that, but how does someone

563
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.160
start to experience that?

564
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.440
And by the way, I really believe in this.

565
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.440
I'm not going to get into the depth of this,

566
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:15.960
but in my own family, and this happened to be

567
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.920
not with tuning forks, but with the singing bowls, a

568
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:26.640
very strong healing of deep emotion and sadness took place

569
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:32.119
and it was not expected. And afterwards it's like, holy cow,

570
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.960
what just happened? And so I am a firm believer

571
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:41.160
in the fact that these frequencies can heal. So how

572
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.319
do I go about getting all of these tuning forks

573
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:46.599
or yeah, well what.

574
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:47.000
Do I do?

575
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.720
Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, you can go

576
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.880
to the Biofield tuning store and you can get yourself

577
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.680
some tuning forks and you can start to work there.

578
00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:01.559
You know this five twenty eight's available, another one the

579
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.759
four seventeen, and the two of them together make air.

580
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.880
That's one eleven and one eleven is kind of one

581
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.840
of the sacred frequencies. It's found throughout the pyramids, so

582
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.119
it's a great pair to work with to harmonize the body.

583
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.880
There's a pair of Fibonacci forks that you can use.

584
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:23.880
I also really often recommend just getting a C in

585
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.719
a G because the C and the G are the

586
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:30.960
harmonic fifth, and together they create a coherent field around

587
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.159
the body. So that's another Those are another classic pairing

588
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.840
that just when I teach like basic kind of introductory

589
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.079
tuning forks, I recommend people get a C in a

590
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.440
G and work with those. Just put them on either

591
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.480
side of your head and feel what happens, and you'll

592
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.519
feel this. I mean I feel it, and countless people

593
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.679
I've worked with feel it. You just feel this kind

594
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.320
of settling in the field. It's incredible, and the mind,

595
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.920
that kind of mind that's bouncy and moving around a lot,

596
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.920
starts to settle.

597
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.920
So as you say you got the five, you know

598
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:06.960
you got the two tuning forks. Sorry, bring the two

599
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.840
tuning forks next to the microphone.

600
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.039
OK, go ahead and hit them. I want to hear

601
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.800
how that all of a sudden changes the frequency.

602
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:15.400
Yeah, yeah, let's do it.

603
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.639
And what frequency is that?

604
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.800
Well, together they create a one to eleven one hundred

605
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.719
and eleven. So the offset or the I'm dropping the

606
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.920
word for it, the binural beat. Binural beat is like

607
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.679
the difference. So this is five twenty eight, this is

608
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.679
four seventeen, so the difference between the two is one

609
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.679
hundred and eleven. So that's the binural It's called the

610
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:40.079
binural frequency.

611
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:41.440
I love it.

612
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:44.360
Yeah, but these are both sulfagio frequencies as well.

613
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.719
Yes, So you know what comes to my mind is Okay,

614
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:51.239
I want to learn about this, but I recognize that,

615
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.239
you know, learning about it is probably the first step,

616
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.079
you know, that awareness.

617
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.440
And being willing to do that.

618
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.239
How do you work people and how do you help

619
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.880
them and then you ultimately have them purchase their own

620
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:04.840
or what do you.

621
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:05.599
Do with folks?

622
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.840
Yeah? So I do sessions with people remotely. So I

623
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.159
work with clients all over the world, and you can

624
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.760
book a remote session with me and we work for

625
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.079
seventy five minutes and because we're in a quantum universe

626
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:23.239
that knows no distance. So you know, I incredibly and

627
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.599
I didn't believe this at first what I'm about to

628
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.360
tell you, I didn't believe it could be possible, except

629
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.440
now I've done it with so many people, hundreds of

630
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.599
people that I know it works. That I can tune

631
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:37.360
into your energetic field from across the world in Thailand.

632
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.320
I will actually feel energies that are happening in your body.

633
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.199
I will feel them clearing and moving. And so what

634
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.599
I do with people is I do multiple sessions. Usually

635
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:50.920
people start with like a package of three and we

636
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.360
meet every two weeks and I work to clear the

637
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.119
energies in your field with the power of the forks.

638
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.639
Do they have specific issues that they're trying to deal

639
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.199
with or do you find that just generally out of

640
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.440
curiosity they're going to do that and they experienced change

641
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.880
without even knowing what the change was supposed to be.

642
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.400
It's usually some of each. So we as we're working,

643
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.239
we'll be in conversation, and so I'll actually pick up

644
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.039
a feeling from the field. So I might pick up sadness,

645
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.119
or might pick up you know, so gree for anger

646
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.880
and then actually, let me just back up. When I

647
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.000
work in the field, the field is the record of

648
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.519
the field is stored like along a timeline. So when

649
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.679
I start working, I'm working at the edge of the

650
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.719
field where you're born. And as I move the fork in,

651
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.519
I get closer to your current age. So if you

652
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.320
had a trauma at age ten, I might feel that

653
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.079
at a specific place in your field, and I would say, wow,

654
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.760
doctor Doug, I'm really feeling a lot here, you know,

655
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.119
around age ten. It's something really challenging happened then. And

656
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.079
nine times out of ten my clients will say, yeah,

657
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.000
that's actually when my family moved and it was super

658
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.480
traumatic for me, or there was some abuse in my

659
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.159
family or whatever. And then I keep the fork there

660
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.400
and you know, we work together to clear it so

661
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.639
it comes up in their consciousness. But then also the

662
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.199
forks are doing their magic at clearing it.

663
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.480
And the forks are actually not only the healing process,

664
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.199
but the diagnostic process.

665
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:28.400
Then that's right, that's right, they're actually both. Yes, yes,

666
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.079
it's incredible.

667
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.960
And yeah you need you need someone like you that

668
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.800
has the attunement to be able to sense as you

669
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.559
bring that into the field, and not everyone can do

670
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.280
that for themselves, can they?

671
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.800
No? You know, the truth is is that having somebody

672
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.599
else work with them is where the real power is.

673
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:52.599
We you know, I for certain, you know my own

674
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.760
healing journey, I had lots of support and help, and

675
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.639
so I really believe in the power, you know, the

676
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.119
power of others to help us clear these things from

677
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.559
our field. So that's what I'm That's what I love doing.

678
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.119
That's fascinating. Well, and how do people find you.

679
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:15.199
Podcasts? Uh? You know some people go to doctor Eileen's,

680
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.400
to Eileen's website and find me there. Yeah, I'm out,

681
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.679
I'm social media, just all those ways.

682
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.360
And what is your website?

683
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.960
My website is Hollycopeland dot.

684
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.719
Co dot c.

685
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.039
Okay, yeah, so c O P E l A n

686
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.079
D Holly h O l l y c O P

687
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:35.760
E l A n D dot co.

688
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.159
And you mentioned your book and we haven't talked a

689
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.320
lot about it, and yet I think a lot of

690
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.400
what we talked about comes and is involved in your book.

691
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.199
How do people find your book?

692
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.039
Well, it will by the time this is aired, it

693
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.920
will be out and hopefully we can we can post

694
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:53.760
that link out. It should be it should be on

695
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.559
Amazon by then, so okay. Yeah, and the book is

696
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:01.400
called Inner Rewilding, a scientist Journey and to be wonderful.

697
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:04.360
Wonderful. Hey, this has been a fascinating discussion.

698
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.360
Yeah, I've really enjoyed talking to you, doctor Doug. Thanks

699
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:08.679
so much for having me on.

700
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:10.000
That's great.

701
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.000
So as we end, what would be that thought that

702
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.239
you want to leave with the audience, so as they

703
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.239
walk away from listening to this thought will remain with them.

704
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.960
Yeah. The thought that I would like to leave with

705
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.920
people is to recognize that you live in a vibrant, living,

706
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:33.119
energetic universe that's working here to support you in your life,

707
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.159
and that all you need to do to access it

708
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.599
is to really drop into your heart and to feel

709
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.440
feel the goodness of your being, feel the light that

710
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.920
is you and trust.

711
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.519
Yeah, wonderful. Thank you so much.

712
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:49.800
You're so welcome.

713
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:50.199
Thank you.

714
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.400
And you know, as we talked about at the very beginning,

715
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.280
reaching out and changing the life of one person ultimately

716
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can change in our world. So thank you for doing that.

717
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Yeah, thank you for the work that you're doing.

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And we will end this with how I always ended. Folks,

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thanks for listening. I hope you've enjoyed it.

720
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And hope you'll join us again soon.

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Doctor Doug saying now, mistay,