Sept. 22, 2025

Following the Soul Path: A Journey of Courage, Clarity, and Peace

Following the Soul Path: A Journey of Courage, Clarity, and Peace
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From selling everything to wander Mexico with only a guitar and a dream, Marko shares his bold journey into the unknown. Discover how silence, a fire like determination, and inner trust led him to write Soul Path and host transformational retreats. A powerful reminder to follow your inner call—no matter how unconventional.
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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Marco, Welcome to the show.

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Thanks for having me, doctor Doc. It's great to be you.

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So I'm looking at your name. I'm here and it's

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a little bit different than what I just called you.

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Can you explain that?

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Yeah, that would be because I did a call with

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my brother Earliott today. His name is Roslov. I should

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be reading fine, Now there we.

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Go, There we go. Okay, I was just wondering if

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we had Doogal personalities here.

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Make sure.

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Anyway, you have a very interesting journey and we have

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a very interesting topic to talk about today. Would you

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share with the audience number one, where you're at right

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now and then also your journey what brought you to

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this point of writing your book and doing all of

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the retreats that you're doing and that type of thing.

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Yeah, absolutely so. Right now, I'm calling from Serbia in Europe.

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This is home country fuel where I was born, but

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where I spent very little time in my life. I

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was raised in Australia, papit of Ues, so that's where

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the accent's from. And then the last five or six

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years I spent living a very nomadic experience of life. Actually,

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I was right during the time of the pandemic that

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I came to terms with the fact that I was

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living a life that wasn't deeply inspiring to me, even

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though I was giving everything of myself to that life

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and it was a beautiful life, but I didn't feel

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inspired on the inside. And that was right at the

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age of twenty nine, I was looking down the barrel

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of my thirtieth birthday and I said to myself that

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if this is what life is moving forward, I'm not

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that interested. I want a life that's deeply inspiring, that

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burns red hot, like when you see a beautiful fire

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crackling away and you see those red hot coals. That's

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the kind of inspiration I wanted to feel. And so

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I made a fairly unique decision where I sold everything

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that I owned, including a forty acre property. I parted

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ways with my partner at the time, and I booked

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a one way ticket into the unknown, which was two

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Mexico for me.

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Wow.

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So I booked the one way ticket with nothing more

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than one suitcase and one guitar on the other hand,

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and I went to Mexico only knowing one person over there,

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not speaking the language, not really having a plan, but

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having a sense of inspiration that I was being called there.

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And so that was about five years ago now, and

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since then it's been a life of really crafting out

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and chiseling out a life that is inspiring. And I

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feel very blessed and grateful to say that today I

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do get to live a life that is deeply inspiring

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to me. Every single day I have conversations that are

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deeply exciting to me, and I do work there I

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feel as a service and a value to humanity at

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a large scale beyond myself.

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So and when did you write your book and what

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motivated you? And obviously let the audience know what the

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name of your book is.

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Yeah, of course, So the name of the book is

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Soul Path, and I spent all the last year writing it.

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So I spent nine months writing the book. I did

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about seventy revisions during that time. I was manic about

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that piece of work, that book being one of the

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masterpieces of my life. So I really wanted to give

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it everything that I could. And during the right writing process,

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I had a lot of people give me feedback. They're like, oh,

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you've done enough revisions, just put it out there. But

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it didn't feel complete me in my heart as the

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work of art that I wanted it to be. So

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I kept working away on it for about nine months

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and then spent a few months launching it towards the

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back end of last year. As far as what the

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book entails is, it's just twenty two short stories of

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my journeys through Mexico and other lands that was largely

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around following what I referred to as the soul path,

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and the sole path for me is nothing more than

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that life of highest inspiration, and some people can call

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it the universal Plan, God's Plan, the most aligned path.

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For me, I just called it the soul path because

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during my time in Mexico over the last five years,

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I started having encounters with life and experiences that felt

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like I was living a movie script that I wasn't

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even aware of. So it wasn't like I sat there

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with a pen and wrote down all these experiences that

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I want to have like a bucket list of items.

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This were experiences that were so unique and so beautiful

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that there was something far greater than what I could

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imagine at the level of my mind and who I'm

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nos Maako. There was something that gave me a taste

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of life that was so much greater. And so I

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called that the soul path because I experienced it as

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if at some level, my soul decided to have these

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experiences and it was up to the human me whether

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or not I was willing to go through with it.

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For me to go through with it, it looked like,

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you know, selling everything around going to Mexico. It also

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looked like a nine month period of silence, which was

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a big devotional chapter of my life where I spent

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a lot of time time in silence, and during that time,

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I got to experience a lot of sacred sites according

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to indigenous cultures that are still very much alive, different

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rights of passage, initiations and ceremonies which were beautiful things

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that allowed me to appreciate life at a deeper level.

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Well, you know, it's interesting how as you go to

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these different ceremonies with different cultures and depending on what

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the focus is. But I I just came from a

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funeral a couple of days ago, and I'm in Thailand,

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and I've never been to a Buddhist, you know, a

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Buddhist one, and I was just so touched and amazed

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at the focus on that individual that had passed away.

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And of course they had their own beliefs about all

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of that, but what really hit me was the fact

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that they are just really focused on that individual, on

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the chanting and the desires and prayers for him and

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for those that knew him, the family and so forth.

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And you know, I find that it's just really inspiring

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to go to different cultures and to experience different things

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and obviously you've done that in many different ways I know,

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and yet you know, I think that's really cool that

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you've been able to do that. And you know, one

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of the things that you talk about is a sacred pause.

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And as you talk about your life now, you know,

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you walked away from everything which is extraordinarily brief, and

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yet you've reached a point in your life where have

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you reached that sacred pause? Have you reached that point

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time where you're really experiencing what you want to experience

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in life?

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Yeah? Absolutely, I'd say as time goes on, it's like

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I'm watching the flower of my life bloom in a

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way that my life gets filled more and more with

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the beauty of that flower. So what I mean by

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that is like where I'm at right now, I'm completely

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satisfied with not satisfied, but like I'm completely in touch

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with life. Right. I feel that aliveness, that inspiration of

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the red hot coals that I referred to before, and

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I stay equally excited for what I see in the

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future in terms of where my inspirations lead me. Right, So,

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last year, the inspiration was to write the book. During

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the writing of that book, I felt all the inspiration

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of life that I could feel I'm not done with that,

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And now I'm in the stage of, you know, speaking

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about the book, doing some events, and then eventually towards

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the back end of this year and in a couple

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of months time as well, leading some retreats. So yeah,

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I'd say that at large ninety percent of my life

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I'm very much living what I refer to is this

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whole part well.

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And as you were going to all those different cultures

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and going through all those processes, you know, we talk

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about personal development, personal transformation. Obviously you experienced a major

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transformation in your life. From what you're describing was a

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lot of what you were doing really going through what

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we would call personal transformation. Question number one, and I've

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done this so many times, I ask multiple questions. So

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question number one is were you going through that with

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all of these processes you were experiencing. And number two,

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I know that you talk about the fact that that

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personal transformation can actually get to a point where it

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becomes a loop and you can get caught up in

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that rather than achieving ultimately what you're looking to achieve.

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Can you address question number one?

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What did you do?

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In question number two? About the loop.

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Yeah, so question number one. Absolutely, it was a consistent

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theme of personal transformation. And I'd say it layers, right,

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Like we have personal transformation at the level of the mind,

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then we have personal transformation as the level of the

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heart of the body, and then at the level of

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the spirit of the soul. And I feel like each

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one of them are valid and each one of them

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allows us to experience life in new ways as and actually,

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to give a little more context to that, I'd say

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that we're in a constant state of transformation. But what

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I mean by that is one of the indigenous language

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groups that I got to learn from is called now

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what And in Nawah, they don't when you ask them

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what color is a leaf, for example, they don't say

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green or brown. They'll either say becoming green or becoming brown,

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which speaks to the cyclical nature of life. That we're

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in a constant state of movement, like we're never one thing,

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We're always in some kind of we're leading towards a

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new expression at the same time we're letting go of

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an old form of expression. Right, So how that might

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manifest for me in my life and how it relates

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to me my life is. For example, if I didn't

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allow myself to try, I may have only ever titled

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myself with a hat as an author and never allowed

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myself to run a retreat, right because now I have

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to be a facilitator. It's a different hat that I'm wearing.

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And so this think, finally, a tuned to this theme

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of transformation, allows me to recognize the different characters that

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I get to play in my life. As far as

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the trap within self transformation, I absolutely agree that it

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is a big one and one that far too many

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people spend time in, and it can look like a

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really beautiful thing from the outside on. Like, I still

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feel that I have work to do, I still feel

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that I can transform, and that's all well and good.

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But there's a point where we have a discipline, whether

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it's yoga, meditation, you know, the work that I do,

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going to pilgrimages and sacred sites where it allows us

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to become the better person. And then there's a point

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where within that practice we'll get inspirations to do something else. So, well,

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what are the other things that we'll get inspiration for. Well,

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we might get the inspiration to write a book, we

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might get the inspiration to facilitate some of this work

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that we've been doing for some time, might get the inspirations,

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have certain conversations with people that we've put off for

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too long. We might have inspirations to do many different

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things in life. It's like life starts to assign us homeworks, right,

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and we'll oftentimes put the homework on the back burner

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to stay with the discipline, and the discipline in that

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way becomes like a blinder on our eyes, where it

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traps us in this idea that we're doing something good,

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but in fact, we're not living anymore. Now, we're just

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doing the practice for the sake of the practice, and

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not to engage with life at a deeper level. So

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it's like there's this balance of transformation of recognizing that

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at each level that I've every time I've gone to

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a ceremony or one of these experiences or a write

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a passage, there's been very clear tasks that I knew

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that I had to take care of, and had I

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not taken care of them, then I wouldn't have advanced

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myself as an individual.

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a lot my children that you know, life is an

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adventure and you know, talking about this and I've done

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this a lot when I've worked with clients that you know,

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there comes a point time where here's your goal, here's

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what you want to achieve. But once you've achieved it,

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what are you going to do? And many people get

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stuck in that you know they've achieved it, and all

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of a sudden they get stuck rather than realizing that

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there are always adventures available to them. And and you know,

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for you, you know you're you're living this life now

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of you know of a quiet type of still moment

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in your life, and yet you're still listening to that inspiration,

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to that spirit that says, all right, you know you're

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writing your book, you've written your book, here's something else

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you can do now. And I think that's so important

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for people to understand that life is not stagnant. It

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needs to be something that we can listen to our heart,

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listen to our soul and be able to realize that,

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you know what, once we finished once adventure, we have

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another adventure to experience and that's how life is forever.

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of you're ripe and writing sorry you're either green and

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growing or you're ripe and writing. And no matter what

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age we are and what stage of life we are,

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there's always a new chapter that we can turn the

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page on, and, like you said, a fresh adventure and

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a new taste of life. And what I found for

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me to be really valuable that is perhaps lacking a

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little bit of modern day society is that we get

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so caught up in who we are in terms of

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the title that we have at work, in terms of

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the way that our family knows us, or you know,

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the value that we have based on our material possessions

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or the money in our bank account. And that's all

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well and good. Those are parts of life's experience, but

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there's so much more beyond that, And if we get

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too caught up in who we are just based on

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those titles, then we might miss out in all the

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magic of what life has for us. So I'm very

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big on giving people that invitation the adventure, And many

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times I tell people, Hey, if you're ever close by it,

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or if I'm ever close by to where you are,

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I'm hanging around a fire with me for a night,

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and let's hang out under the stars. Let's have a

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beautiful night around the fire and book about life, the

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kind of conversations.

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That I rarely had well, and you know, you talk

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about you, you know you take people. Are you working

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right now? Do you do you actually have a daytime job?

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Because most of the people that are listening are not

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able to get to a point where they're just experiencing

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life and peace and so forth, because they're still trying

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to make a living, they still have a family, all

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of those types of things.

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I haven't got a daytime job. So this is all

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I do. I promote my work. I have some products

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that I sell and can see on the back shelf over there,

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and I promote my book, and I promote my retreats.

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I made a commitment to live a life that's inspiring

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to me, regardless of how humble I had to be

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during the process. So in my book I speak about

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one of the chapters was actually me busking through some

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of the Mexico's most dangerous streets with nothing but a

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somberro and a flute. And I lived like that for

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about three or four months, and it was probably three

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or four of the most memorable months of my life

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that allowed me to refine how well I play the flute,

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allowed me to on Spanish, allowed me to see many

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parts of Mexico that most people will never see, and

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allowed me to start a business at the time because

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I started to learn about some really beautiful plant like

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power plants that they have over there that they use

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as like daily medicines, as like homeopathic remedies, and so

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I started to learn about these things and then eventually

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made products out of them, them blessed enough to sell

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all over the world today. So it's been a journey

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of me just following one step to the next, but

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also being humble about my situation. So there was a

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time when I, like during that time with the flut,

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I didn't know if I'd have a roof over my

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head for many nights in a row. But somehow life

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kept taking care of me. Someone would offer me something,

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or I'd make a little bit more on the streets

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when I was busking, and like someone would give me

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a more generous contribution. Something would always open up. And

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I feel that's the dance with faith that we take on.

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If we want to live a life of inspiration, we're

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going to be tested against our comforts. Right, It's a

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lot more comfortable to know, Hey, I've got my job

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and I get my paycheck X amount every week every

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month and have that security. But as that's saying goes,

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life is outside the comfort zone. The magic of life

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is outside the comfort zone. Right. Well, I was willing

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to d outside of the comfort zone, I'd say for

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a much more extended period of time than some people

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allow themselves to. I don't consider myself special. I just

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wanted to be a message of full the possibility of that.

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Bells of pops on me writing the book.

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Well, and you're blessed to be able to do that.

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But one of the things that comes to my mind

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is so often people get so caught up and you

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kind of referred to it, and we can talk about

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ego or whatever you want to call it, that they're

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so caught up in their work and maybe maybe importantly

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so because they're trying to support their family, pay for

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a nice home, you know, with their kids and so forth.

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If that's the case, and that becomes their life, and

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it's fascinating to me that we can get so stuck

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in that and not realize that. You know, there's this

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whole concept of black and white either or and I

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always go by the concept of both and and I

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think that that's so important. I remember I was working

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with one client in his business years ago, and when

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I really sat down with him and said, all right,

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what are your goals here? His real goal was to

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spend more time with his family, with his wife, with

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his children. And it's like, okay, So we worked on

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the business, but with the whole point of giving him

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more time, and ultimately he started making much more money

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in his business, and he now had time to be

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with his family, with his children. And I think so

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often we get so caught up in just one sided

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focus rather than recognizing that, you know, yes, we have

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to support ourselves, we have to support our families, whatever

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that is, But there are so many other things that

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we can do. For instance, you talk about going out

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and sitting by the fire and just appreciating nature and

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experiencing that. You talk about meditation, and you know, the

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piece that can come from that if you're doing it

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well and consistently, is just amazing. So how do you

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in your book? Do you talk about that a bit

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about how to how to become a both and minded

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person rather than an either or.

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Yeah, I do speak about it but not as a

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preacher teach a mentoral guide. Rather I speak about it

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just through my direct experience. So the types of the

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book wasn't for me to be a preacher in anyway.

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It was rather you're writing Shotgun with me, like you're

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sitting in the passenger seat of twenty two of some

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of the wildest stories that I lived, and along the way,

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I have excess for my general So this is general

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notes throughout of my experiences, my transformations, and some other

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things that I learned. So there's a lot of takeaways

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in there as well. But I feel what you're speaking

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to there is really valuable on on ego. For me,

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the ego is kind of like this thing that generally

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gets bustardized. But there's good aspects and there's bad aspects

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to ego, or more than good and bad, i'd say

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useful and not so useful. The useful aspects of the

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ego are the ones that tell me who I am.

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So if I didn't have an ego, I wouldn't understand

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myself as being Marco or anything like that. And you

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hear some stories where there's like ascended teachers that have

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walked on this earth, who have been in such an

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elevator to say that they didn't have a sense of ego,

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that they walk around in an underwear through cities and

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stuff like this, because they didn't have a sense of hey,

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like it's appropriate to put clothes on when I got

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and they were just living in a completely different world.

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So there's that aspect of Vigo. It's really valuable. That

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helps me to understand, well, what are the commitments that

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I made, What are the promises that I made to

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my family, to my friends, to my work and all

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these things, right, And then there's the not so useful

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parts of ego, which is the parts of us that

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keep us dominant and safe, right, And those are the

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paths that in Hebrew growth. So what you're speaking to

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there about the example of the man who wanted to

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grow his business and spend time with this family. The

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life that gives us both is always going to require

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a little more growth from us, but it's always going

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to give us the greatest leverage and inspiration. That's the

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way I've experienced the time and time again. So it's

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not a question of can I have one or the other?

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It's how can I have both? And I feel like

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That's one of the questions that many people never ask

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themselves to begin with. They say, oh, I can't because

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of and it's easy to justify that like anyone, and

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in fact, most people do exactly that. But to sit

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and actually open my mind and say, how can I

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create a life where I can have both of these, Well,

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that's a beautiful dance to play with my imagination. And

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the moment I start asking that question and leaning into it,

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the moment this life starts to speak back to me.

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I might come across a teacher, someone like you that

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could help me out with growing my business, or something

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else might open up for me.

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Yeah. And you know, we talk about and I love

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the word you were talking about becoming. In your example

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with the leafs, they are becoming green or they're becoming brown,

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and you know, we are becoming And I think that's

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so important for people to realize, is that part of

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what we're trying to accomplish here in the earth is

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to become the best version of who we actually are.

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And you know, as you talk about the sole path

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and people really starting to discover their true path, what

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are some of the modalities of that? And there are

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different modalities and based on your personal experience, for you,

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what are some of the advantages in different events and

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disadvantages of the different modalities that exist in helping someone

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to really discover their purpose and their soul path.

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Excuse me, great question. I'd say that those words that

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ever so true is that all poths lead to home

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and so modalities for me are nothing more than a

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system or a framework that allows me to understand a pathway. Right,

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and there's different pathways for different people, and they're all

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valid to the degree that they don't become a framework

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that I live by. So what do I mean by that?

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I mean that if I sit and meditate for twenty

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minutes a day and it makes me a better human

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because I'm more relaxed and more centered, I'm able to

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be more present with you, with my family, with everything

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that I do, then it's done the job. If I

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can't live my day unless I've done my twenty minute meditation,

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now it's controlling me and I'm no longer steering the wheel.

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I am a slave to it rather than it being

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something that uplifts me. And I'd say that's a fine

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line that we all have to look at because we

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fall in love with the things that support us. Right,

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so if I get profound transformation through spending time around

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the fire, and then I might become the person that

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securing is from the top of the mountains that everyone

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should do that. But it's not everyone's path. Someone's path

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might just be the right there own book and they

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may be the most transformational process for them. Right, So,

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each one has their own path and they're all valid

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to the degree that they don't become a thing that

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we are enslaved by. As far as my journey and

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00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:04.920
the things that have helped me out the most, I'd

470
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.960
say at scale, it's been time around the fire. And

471
00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.920
the reason why is because when I look at all

472
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:14.599
the traditions from all around the world, spiritual and religious traditions,

473
00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:17.160
they they all work with the fire in some way,

474
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.319
whether it's a candle in the church. I was raised

475
00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.759
raised in the Serbian Orthodox background, right, so growing up,

476
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.160
Mom and Dad took me to church and I learned

477
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.119
about the importance of light, lighting a candle for all

478
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.000
of those that are living, and lighting a candle for

479
00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.839
all of those that have passed on. And I could

480
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.559
see the way that the priests would work with the

481
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.720
candles and all of that. So there's an element of

482
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.920
fire there. There's also an element of fire through the

483
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.240
smoke where they'll burn the incense. And then when I

484
00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:44.079
look at indigenous traditions, whether it's the Buddhas, whether it's

485
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:49.480
the in Africa and the Aborigines in Australia, the Native

486
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.960
Americans from the north, central or south, and all the

487
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.599
way through Europe, the way that my ancestors wants them.

488
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.400
Before they were Christians, they were Pagans, and the Pagans

489
00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.640
all honored the element. It's the fire, the water, the air,

490
00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:04.240
the earth. And so this theme of fire for me

491
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.160
has been something that's been very alive for me in

492
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.920
my life. And I'd say why is because as time

493
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.640
has gone on, I've come to appreciate that fire is

494
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:16.799
the only element that can't be made dirty. So when

495
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:20.200
you look at the waters of today, a lot about

496
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.960
waters has been ruined. It's got chemicals in it and

497
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.680
all these kind of things. The air is polluted, the

498
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.279
earth is polluted. You put something into a fire, it

499
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:32.920
cleans it right up, it purreface right so you can't

500
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.400
you can't make a fire dirty. And so I love

501
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.720
that element that it keeps something so pristine and pure

502
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.680
and clear, and it offers me that's any level of

503
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:43.640
purity in my life that I get to experience that

504
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.119
I can't say that I've consistently found elsewhere. So I've

505
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.839
enjoyed it because of that, and also because the fire,

506
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:52.599
to me, is almost like the script of life. If

507
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.079
I only go back a few generations. In almost all

508
00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:58.599
around the world, this is what I have been spending time

509
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.480
around the fire, commuting around fire. It's only the last

510
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:04.240
few generations that we've started to steal away from that.

511
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:08.000
And so there's something ancestral that you know, memory that

512
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:10.559
speaks to our being that you kind of even quite

513
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.799
put into woods. But everyone feels the when they're around

514
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:13.119
the fire.

515
00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.799
Well, and that's interesting you say that, you know, as

516
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.039
I said, I was at this funeral, and you know,

517
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.400
I don't speak Tie, so I'm trying to get some

518
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:27.519
of my questions answered. And what I found fascinating is

519
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.480
they cremate here for the most part, here in Thailand.

520
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:32.559
They don't vary, and I think a lot of it

521
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:35.200
has to do with the space. But also I think

522
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.160
I found out that they really have a belief in Buddhism,

523
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.559
that cremation creates a you know, it's done by fire,

524
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:46.599
and that tends to free the soul and you know,

525
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.000
burn and burn the negativity of the body and so

526
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.960
forth and free the soul. And as I thought about that,

527
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.119
what comes to my mind is that I really believe,

528
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.359
as you know, with a Christian background, and also that

529
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:04.480
there is a fire that exists within each of us

530
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.559
and it's that light. And you know, you talk about wisdom,

531
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.759
elemental wisdom, you know, and I think something that comes

532
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.759
to my mind is where did that wisdom come for you?

533
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.119
I know that in my own life, I've experienced times

534
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.759
where it's like, Okay, this is the path that you're

535
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.599
going to take, and sometimes it's just been way off

536
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.480
the wall. It's like really, but okay, I'm going to

537
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:33.839
do that. And I think people sometimes struggle with understanding

538
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.519
the trust that they can put in that wisdom, in

539
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:42.559
that inspiration that comes to them, that may actually come

540
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.279
from them, and they don't realize it.

541
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:49.119
Yeah, it's an interesting conversation, and I'd say that you're

542
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.160
speaking to something very primal that is easily dismissed in

543
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.960
the modern day because with so ties to technology, to

544
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.359
what we read what we see on the phone, and

545
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:01.599
like if I don't, it's not material, how do I

546
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:05.160
justify it. That's typically what's going on in people's unconscious wiring.

547
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.440
But our ancest has never lived like that. There's stories where,

548
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.119
for example, the bushmen of the Kala Haari Desert when

549
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.839
researchers went out to understand their ways of life, the

550
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.119
bush men were confused and sad and by the fact

551
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.079
that the researchers couldn't hear the echoes and the songs

552
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:21.720
of the stars.

553
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:22.359
Wow.

554
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.480
I think about that as a concept for us that

555
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.960
seems like a fairy tale, but that's how they live

556
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.960
their lives. And so to me, that was just one

557
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:36.279
demonstration of like how far we've distanced ourselves from the

558
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.480
primal forces of life. And to bring it to what

559
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.839
you were speaking to of, you know, like getting this

560
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.640
sense of inspiration or something like this. It's happened to

561
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.440
me many times. I mean, that whole decision to sell

562
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.960
everything happened with a flash of light. It was like

563
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.240
a lightning bolt struck me in my heart with the

564
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:55.920
resounding truth that said you're complete here in Australia. And

565
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.519
even though I didn't know rationally or logically what my

566
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:00.440
next step was. I felt that in me and I

567
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.240
knew it was a life And shortly after that, within

568
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.759
twenty four hours, I got a message inviting me to

569
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:09.240
go to Mexico. It was very spontaneous and unexpected. So

570
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.920
I feel like the elemental forces are always speaking to us.

571
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.000
It's a question of whether or all week you got

572
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:15.920
sells the space to listen to them well.

573
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.440
And I think one of the challenges I mean, I

574
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.319
think of myself. I experienced the same thing a little

575
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.359
bit later on my life than you did, but I

576
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:27.400
experienced the same thing. I was actually in Cardagenia and

577
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:32.720
going through a meditation week program with Joe card with

578
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:37.640
you anyway, And what fascinated me is somewhere along that line,

579
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.880
that inspiration, that sense was, you know what, it's time

580
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:46.599
to experience Asia, and it specifically became Thailand. And I

581
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:50.039
had spent some time in Vietnam, and so I appreciated

582
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.880
the culture to some degree, and I just made the decision,

583
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.640
you know, I'm going to do that, and all of

584
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:01.079
a sudden, three years later, I'm here, and I'm you know,

585
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:05.720
pretty much here full time. And what's fascinating to me

586
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.000
is that as we as we start to seek that.

587
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:15.119
So many people really struggle with outside influences. I mean,

588
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.160
you know, my kids struggle with the fact that I'm

589
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.559
not there with them and with the grandkids, and I

590
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.759
struggle with that too. But the reality is so many

591
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:28.279
times that as you're surrounded by friends, by family, and

592
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.400
you gain this inspiration that all right, this is this

593
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.400
is kind of a path I want to follow. Oftentimes

594
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:39.119
that path is so different than what other people would

595
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.160
perceive for you. And as you say, you know, we

596
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:46.279
can either be at the effect of others and so forth,

597
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.960
or we can be in control of our own personal lives.

598
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.920
So how do you suggest people when they're starting to

599
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.440
experience that sense of all right, here's my path, how

600
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.799
do they overcome the influences that are saying no, no, no,

601
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.920
and gain the strength and the courage to be able

602
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.680
to follow that path? And he even talked about the

603
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.720
setbacks as they're doing that and the challenges that come up.

604
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.000
How are they able to overcome that? In your opinion,

605
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:17.359
and how would you advise them to move forward on

606
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:18.200
those paths?

607
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.160
Yeah, it's a great question. The way I've dealt with

608
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.680
it in my life is I'd say fairly unique to

609
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.519
what most people do, and that is I remained silent

610
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.880
until I've manifested enough of the new reality that it's undeniable.

611
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.079
So what I mean by that is when I decided

612
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.400
to make that move and sell everything off, I didn't

613
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.920
really advertise it to anyone. I told my dad about it,

614
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.039
and I told my partner because we were going to

615
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.240
go separate ways, and that was it. I didn't tell

616
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.880
anyone else until the property was pretty much bought and

617
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.079
everything else was sold, And in fact, most people didn't

618
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.640
know until I was already in Mexico. Right. Well, what

619
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.559
it looked like when I was writing my book was

620
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.079
I've seen a lot of authors get stuck, and they'll

621
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.039
tell people that they're going to write a book. People

622
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.480
will get excited for it, they get the emotional and

623
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.559
orphin hit, and then they never end up writing because

624
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.039
it's like they got the reward before they did the work, right,

625
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.559
So then they'll just speak about how they're writing a

626
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.119
book for many years instead of actually writing it. For me,

627
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.480
I'd written out all the chapters, and I'd done about

628
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.079
twenty to thirty revisions of the book before I started

629
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.079
to promote it, and so I already had a lot

630
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.960
of momentum in that way that I didn't have the

631
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.440
influence of others. So for me, I've always felt an

632
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:28.200
importance to really guard it and guard it with silence.

633
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.920
When I have a flame of inspiration, I wait until

634
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.359
it starts to reveal itself and until I can see

635
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.319
it really really clear for myself, and then I'll start

636
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.839
to speak to other people about it, because even if

637
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.640
people that are close to me, it doesn't matter, like

638
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.160
they're all going to have an opinion, and that's felt.

639
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.119
Even if they don't express it with words, they're expressing

640
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.079
it somehow, and it's an energy, it's felt. There's this

641
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:53.359
term call quantum entanglement right where we can get caught

642
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.799
up and entangled through the energies of others. So that's

643
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.160
a real thing. It exists, and I do my best

644
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.960
to guard it until it's real enough that it's undeniable,

645
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.400
and that will be my best encouragement for most people.

646
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.720
I say, most people are too loud, too soon, and

647
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.240
they don't put the energy where it needs to be put,

648
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.759
which is actually moving the needle or the manifestation of

649
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:16.279
whatever they're working.

650
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.519
Well, And you know it's It's interesting that the concept

651
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.279
that comes up to me and the wording that comes

652
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.599
up to me is keep your own counsel. And I

653
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.119
think that becomes so important that you keep your own counsel.

654
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.640
And I love how as you talk about the fact

655
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:33.720
that all right, I'm ready to go, I'm manifesting this

656
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.400
and so forth. You know, you went to different places

657
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.599
and you learn different things, and I think it's important

658
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.240
for all of us to recognize that we can, through

659
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.279
that curiosity, reach out and find people who we can trust,

660
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:53.079
that can help us along that path. We can't we

661
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.599
just don't do it on our own, because as you say,

662
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.279
you went to so many different retreats, so many different cultures,

663
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.200
and that I'm sure that as you did that, each

664
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.759
time you came back with some greater inspiration, greater understanding

665
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.640
for you what your path was. And I think it's

666
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:14.079
important for people to understand that. So how do they

667
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:18.000
how did they reach that balance of keeping their own

668
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:22.279
counsel and yet at some point in time reaching out

669
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.920
to someone that they truly trust that can be kind

670
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.920
of a mentor or if they're going, you know, on

671
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.160
the retreats and so forth, where they can determine which

672
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:34.519
retreats are going to be the greatest benefit to them.

673
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.599
Yeah, I'd say there's a couple couple of pieces. For me.

674
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.519
One is that keeping your own counsel has an undertone

675
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.960
of knowing oneself. Right if I'm if I'm not aware

676
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:49.359
of me at a deeper level, then I'm not going

677
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.319
to do the best job of keeping counsel to myself.

678
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.119
So for me, that comes through self assessment and whether

679
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.799
it's through whatever introspective practice people decide to take on generally, meditating,

680
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.119
whatever it may be. And what I specifically pay attention

681
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.319
to is the integrity. And when I mentioned integrity, I'm

682
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.119
talking about when my feelings, thoughts, words, and actions align,

683
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.800
Because if those pieces aren't aligning, then I don't know

684
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.440
myself that well. If I'm saying one thing but doing another,

685
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.159
then there's still pieces there for me to integrate. That's fine,

686
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:18.719
It's part of the part of the journey, and we

687
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.199
can do that for our whole lives at every final level.

688
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.280
So that's the first one. In order to keep my counsel,

689
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.599
I'll make sure that I actually have a solid track

690
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.639
record of knowing myself and living with a degree of

691
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.800
integrity as far as reaching out to other people, I'd

692
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:39.280
say that it's contextual. Who I'll reach out to will

693
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.760
support depending on how they live their lives. And I

694
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.599
look at what they demonstrate more than what they say.

695
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.239
And so if I need someone for spiritual advice, I'll

696
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.320
look to people that are further down the spiritual path

697
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.719
than I am, and I won't take what they say

698
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.880
for as if it's the be all and end all.

699
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.400
I'll still assess whether or not it's really into me

700
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.679
in my life, and I'll ask myself a question of

701
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.760
where are they speaking from, right, because sometimes people will

702
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.719
give us feedback, even if that further than the path

703
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.079
in us, but they'll give us feedback from a place

704
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.360
of docness within themselves, the docness that they haven't integrated

705
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.079
in their lives yet. And so that's not going to

706
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.639
be very useful because it's going to create the same

707
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:18.760
common for me right well.

708
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And I love the fact that it's like, you know,

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you watch their lives now what they say. In fact,

710
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I love this saying what you are thunder so loud

711
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in my ears, I cannot hear what you say, and

712
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you know, in some cases that's more of a negative approach,

713
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but I think you can reverse that become a positive

714
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statement that you know what, I will observe who you

715
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are and I don't care what you say, because there's

716
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.559
so many people that say, oh, this person's that and

717
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so forth. But when you get to know them, you

718
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.440
realize that they are truly a loving, kind, honest, full

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and integrity individual and that they just have people out

720
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there that are either jealous or just bullying or whatever

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and trying to put them down. So I think being

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able to identify people based on who they are, and

723
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as you watch who they are, it helps you to

724
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understand that these are the people that can be of

725
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value to you.

726
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:13.880
Yeah. Absolutely well.

727
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So as we come to a close, Mircael, what would

728
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be a message that you'd like to share with your

729
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.440
out it's kind of a final message.

730
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.519
Yeah. A beautiful metaphor that I love is that there's

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this train that passes by for all of us, and

732
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sadly most people never take the step to get on

733
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.960
the train, and that train is that path, that sole path,

734
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.599
that through path that we're speaking about before. So my

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invitation to people is to step on the train and

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go for a ride, because they can always get off

737
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.000
at the next station and come back to what they've

738
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been leaving. But what they won't get is the time

739
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that they spent not thinking about it. The universe doesn't

740
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work in terms of any time other than right here,

741
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.320
right now, So when we sit there waiting for the

742
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.599
right time, it's actually never going to arrive. There are

743
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.079
more opportune times the mong we decide that's the right time,

744
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and so give yourself the right time right now and

745
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go after whatever your greatest inspiration is. Life is way

746
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.559
too short to put those things on the back burner.

747
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.079
Yeah, okay, that's great. So how do people find you?

748
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What's your website?

749
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.880
Yeah? My website is Solepath dot io. And if people

750
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.440
want to connect with what I'm up to and stay

751
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.119
in touch with updates, Instagram is the best place. And

752
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.519
my handle is meat Marker muble Et m a Ko.

753
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.039
Okay, and that's on Instagram. Great, ye. And how do

754
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.119
people find your book?

755
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.559
My book that they can get it through my biolink

756
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.760
in my Instagram or they can just search my name.

757
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.760
The name of the book is sole Path on Amazon.

758
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.280
It's available on Amazon as well.

759
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.159
Okay, So on Amazon. That's that's always the easiest way.

760
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.079
Is it mainly a book or can you do it

761
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:48.400
for kindle or audio or how has it been set

762
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:51.679
up so far? I know it's early in the pathways.

763
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.960
So yeah, of course the audiobook isn't that yet. That's

764
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.119
a project for this year. But the kindle version and

765
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:58.880
the physical copies are available.

766
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.960
Oh great, well, Marco, thank you. This has been a

767
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.440
great discussion and I really appreciate it. You know, the

768
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ideas and the philosophy that you've shared I think is

769
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.360
so important for people to understand that reaching that sense

770
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.960
of peace in your life and being able to realize that, yeah,

771
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:23.519
life still happens, but being able to mentally, emotionally, spiritually

772
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.400
recognize that, you know what, I am reaching that sense

773
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.960
of peace I think is so important and that's obviously

774
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:30.800
what you're teaching.

775
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:32.960
I a great thank you so much, doctor Doug. It's

776
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been great. Thank you for the work that you're doing

777
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and putting messages like this out there. And I want

778
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to say thank you to the listeners as well for

779
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training in well.

780
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I appreciate it, and folks, hey, thanks for listening. I

781
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hope this has beant something for you, and get to

782
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.559
the website, get to the book. Some great insights there Anyway,

783
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this is doctor Doug saying no mistay, no