June 26, 2024

Dreams Are The Secrets to Your Life

Dreams Are The Secrets to Your Life

So often we never consider the value of dreams that we experience or the fact that we cannot remember the dreams of the previous night, or just say that we don’t dream.
There is magic to our dreams if we just sit back and discover
their meanings....

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So often we never consider the value of dreams that we experience or the fact that we cannot remember the dreams of the previous night, or just say that we don’t dream.
There is magic to our dreams if we just sit back and discover
their meanings.
Gabrielle Pimstone is one such person who can help us to understand our dreams and what energetic message that lies behind those dreams.
And emotional and physical healing can take place.
https://www.generativegrowth.com.au/

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of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas.

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At the end of the day, it's not about what

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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what

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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,

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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.

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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Gabriel, welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much. Doug, it's great to be here.

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And hello to listeners.

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Oh yes, and where you where you at at this

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point in time? Where are you living?

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I am in Sydney, Australia, the best city in the world.

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We've just come up. We are just shameless plug for Sydney.

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We've just come out of two and a half weeks

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of torrential rain and the sun has been shining since yesterday.

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So it's really really great, how wonderful.

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You know that rain can be really tough in in Asia,

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in that area, and I know that. So for those

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that are watching this versus listening to it, you you've

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got a bunch of elephants behind you.

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I do, and that's because it's an I'm not actually

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in Africa, though I grew up. I was born in

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Africa and grew up in Africa, so that that's saying there,

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that quote the African problem is something that really touches

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my heart. Having you know, once you've been in Africa,

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stays in your blood.

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Yes, and a good leader was once a good follower.

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I like that saying. So what I'd love for you

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to do is share with the audience how you got

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to the point you are, because you've gone through a

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lot of different things. And it's fascinating to me as

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we go through our lives and we have our professions

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and so forth, and there's a story behind why all

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of a sudden or not maybe even an of a sudden,

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maybe that's just a transition. We reach a point in

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our lives where we're doing, what we're doing presently. I'd

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love for you to share with the audience your story.

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Thank you, thanks so much for that. Well you set.

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I've been through a lot of I've done a lot

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of different things. It's actually I had a really steady

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career for about twenty five years. What happened was, you know,

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as a young child, I was always interested in two things.

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I was interested in psychology and I was interested in spirituality.

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And you know, my father passed away when I was

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it got a lot of questions. I was asking a

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lot of existential questions. At one point I said to

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my mum, I'd like to go and see a medium.

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She said, absolutely, no way.

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And so what.

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Happened after that was I just followed the psychology route,

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and when it came to going to university, no brainer.

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I studied psychology and I had a really great career

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for a long time. For over two decades, I worked

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in organizational psychology big corporates, and I thrived. It was

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a huge part of my identity. And what happened was

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in about I don't know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, things

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started to shift. The career that once really lit me

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up started to fade, and I felt a sense of disconnect.

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Was not so much what I was doing, but the environment,

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the corporate environment started to really trip me up, and

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I started to see the dark underbeling of corporate life.

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And it was interesting because I'd been aware of it

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and privy to it, but I'd never really felt affected

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by it, and so there were questions floating around in

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my mind, what do I do? What's happening here? And

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then in twenty twenty, I had that inflection point where

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I was in a senior leadership role in a bank

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of all places, and I was depressed. I was depressed.

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I was highly anxious, and I woke up on Sunday

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morning and I had this terrible pit in my stomach

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and that pit took me on a walk, a bushwalk,

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listened to a podcast friendly Enough, and that was my awakening.

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I realized I no longer wanted it, change, actually had

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to change. And so that was the inflection point. And

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a short while later, you know, I had an advert

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in my Instagram feed and I attended a three day

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extended can workshop on energy and the rest is history.

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So it was, in many ways, there was an inflection

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point that it had been building for quite some time,

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but you know, I needed a catalyst which was hitting

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rock bottom for me to make this change. And so

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I've kind of come full circle. I'm now keeping my

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psych practice. You bring that very strongly into my work,

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but I throw in the world of energy, which gives

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a nice spiritual tone to it.

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And are you doing more on a personal level now

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or are you still doing corporate level? Okay, to show

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you you moved into the personal.

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Level, I really have, and I've never really done that.

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I've done individual coaching in a corporate setting. They've been

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corporate clients and then their leaders have come to me

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for coaching, but I've never actually worked with individuals like

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ordinary citizens. And that's what I'm doing, though I still

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do some facilitation in the corporate world because I'm not facilitating,

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but I'm not in it. And yeah, I'm working with

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human beings, people like you and I who are stuck

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as I was, and who are wanting to put it

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and make some really big changes that they just don't

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know how to.

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Well. As you combine psychology and your reference to spirituality,

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define for the audience what you mean, what your perception

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is of spirituality?

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Well, for me, it's about consciousness. My spiritual journey has

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been about expanding my consciousness, and not from a psychological

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perspective that's just getting to know yourself better, but spiritually,

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what that means is being able to really tap into

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the fact that we are actually not separated. Humanity is

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totally interconnected, and I'm able to tap into different sources

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of wisdom now than I was before. So, for example,

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my intuition is deeply, deeply honed. Having studied the energy

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for eighteen months, I've been through the process. My internal

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GPS is on, so I've activated my spiritual gift of intuition.

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And so what that's done is it has allowed me

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to really tap into higher source knowledge. When I'm at

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my own inflection points, when I'm working with my clients

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and I'm quite sure where to go next, there's a

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different wellspread that I can draw from to move myself

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or the other person in a different direction. So expanded

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consciousness that's how I would define it.

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Does that become a you know, you're working with a client,

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something comes up and you know you're saying, they're going, okay,

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where do we need to go with there? Is it

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a conscious tapping into a deeper level or is it

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just naturally come.

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Well, it's interesting, it's such a great question you've askedcause

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in the beginning I used to go like where like, oh,

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I feel stuck. I can't leave this person's energy. What

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does this mean? But now it's much more unconscious, because

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you know, as we develop skills, we become unconsciously competent.

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So we're just drawing on things we now know that

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part of us. And that's the same with my intuition.

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It's like, what's actually happened when I'm working with someone

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who's I feel almost like I've stepped back from the

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process and my higher self, that wisdom that I have

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that's not in my conscious you know, being that part

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of me has taken over and is doing the work

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for me. It's difficult to explain, but it's a little

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bit of an altered state in that you are.

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It's unconscious, okay, And you talk about your higher self.

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I know there are many people that talk about quantum

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physics and getting into the quantum field and so forth,

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and I don't know do you do you go to

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in that direction? Nulled Doy, you talk about the quantum field,

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I actually do.

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I do. I tap into other sources of wisdom. I

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just if you're open to talking about that, then I'm

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happy to talk about it. I usually just get my

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cue from the podcast host as to how far I

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can take this into I tap into? Can I go there? Yeah?

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You know what? Yes? Because I think for people, you know,

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people talk about their higher self, and I think for

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some people that's very difficult to understand. For those that

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can envision, you know, the quantum field, there's some scientific

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basis behind that, and I think that people need to

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understand that there are ways in which they can tap

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into quote their higher self and really gain that inspiration,

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that wisdom. For some it may be from a really

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just perspective of you know, whether they're Christians or their

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Buddhists or whatever that happens to be. But I'd love

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for you too, Yes, get into it. That's what this

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is all about.

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That's great, Okay. So really, the way that I define

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our higher self is by thinking that we've got different

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versions of ourselves that exist in any point in time.

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We've got our present self, which we're aware of. I'm

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sitting here with you in a podcast conversation. I think

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you know, we've also got our past selves. We draw

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on that when we know our memories come to the fall.

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When we're doing personal work in therapy, we're going back

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to our past self and we're taking experiences and lessons.

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So that version of ourselves exists, and there are multiple

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versions of that. There's the version of us that you know,

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it's a toddler version of us at school. There are

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so many multi dimensions, and then there is also a

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future self. But we can go to that at a

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later point if you want. But this version of ourself

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that exists, that has transcended the three D reality, it

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exists in a realm where we've actually it's sorted out

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the problems. It knows intuitively the how to solve the

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problems that we're facing in our current reality. It's the

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part of us that's got the answers. Now that's the

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mystical way of saying. But if I just said to you,

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you know, can you tap into yourself? There is a

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part of you deep down that knows how to work

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through the problem you're facing. That's what I'm talking about.

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And the way that I help people access it, which

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is not a little bit more mainstream, is working through dreams,

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because your dreams contain your unconscious and they in Actually

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it's more than that. When we dream, we travel, and

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we can access the frequency of these different versions of

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ourselves to heal ourselves in our sleep. So that's the

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way that I teach people how to access that intuitive

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voice of wisdom, which is by really building a relationship

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with your dream state and working through stuff in your dreams.

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Okay, I don't dream very often, So what's the challenge.

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Well, at first, see, I would challenge you, dag, and

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I'd say, you probably do. You do dream probably very often.

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The challenge is probably weak. All you know, you're probably

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not remembering your dreams, and that's common.

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Well, and yeah, I woke up the other the other

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morning and I just had such a crazy dream and

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I know what it was exactly about and why it

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was triggered, but it was like, okay, and then you know,

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I to myself, all right, was is there any meaning

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to this dream other than the fact that, you know whatever?

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And I wear a seapap okay, and I was dreaming

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that I just needed to get it off, needed to

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get it off. And you know, I woke up and

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I did, but I thought to myself, all right, what's

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what's the deeper meaning that I need to get the

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seapap off my face?

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Well, we could go there. We could spain the rest

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of the podcast talking about that if you want. But

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you know it's crazy. It's so you know, if I

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said to you, if we all dream, okay, and what

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you've just described is that crazy experience we go to

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in another altered state. Well, and that's often a doorway

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into spirituality for me, because if I if you didn't dream,

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and I told you what happened in my dreams, you

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think I was mad? Right, my mother? I activated my

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mother's ability to remember her dreams inadvertent keys. She never

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remembered to sing.

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Dream.

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Now every day she's telling me, you know, and they

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are crazy. My dreams are crazy. They're all crazy. This

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is are This is the beauty of being able to

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access different parts of ourselves.

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Okay, So I'm going to have two questions, so I apologize.

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I always ask more than one question, which is really

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tough for nothing. So first question is how many times

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when someone is watching, you know, a TV show at

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night before they go to sleep. I know that that

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can affect I remember specifically sometimes I'm watching a show

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and then I dream something about that show. So you know,

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I don't know that that has anything to do with

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anything other than that was in my conscious or subconscious.

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But secondarily, in the second question I have is, and

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you mentioned it, how do you unlock your ability to

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remember your dreams?

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Okay, so let me just write this down because these

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days I don't remember. If you ask me more than

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one question at a time, I've got to write it down.

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two questions at once, then I forget one of them.

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Welcome to the club. Yes, And the first one, I

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think you know. Very often, something we've spoken about in

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the day, a chat, in a book, we've read, a movie,

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the news, whatever it is you were doing just before

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you go to sleep, they find their way into our dreams.

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But not everything does, just certain things do. It's still

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relevant because somewhere in some level our subconsciousness said, this

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is an important construct to bring into the dream for

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some reason or other.

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Okay, yeah, makes sense, all right, and answers that one.

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So now, how do how do I start remembering my dreams? Well?

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I mean what I do? I don't just do healing.

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I also do activation because we've all got this innate

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You've got innate gifts talents that you know. One of

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them is our ability to dream and work with our dreams.

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One of them is you know, intuition, and I can

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actually activate those. But you don't have to come to

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me to do it. You can actually get into a

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routine yourself. And it's quite simple. So what I teach

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people is do you have to the important thing over

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here as consistency and do it for a period of

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like twenty one days and see what comes up. What

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you're going to do is just before you go to sleep,

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you're getting ready to go to sleep, you get into

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a meditative state of some sort. You don't have to

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be meditating, but just make sure you're in a quiet,

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clear space where you are open and receptive and you're

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in an authentic place. Sometimes for me, that happens after

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I take hot bath at night, or whatever the case

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may be. What you can do is you're going to

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have a conversation with your dream while you're awake, and

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you're going to set an intention. And you might say,

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perhaps you just set a general intention dream tonight as

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I go to sleep, please help me remember what is

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going to help you know what is in the highest

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good for me to remember. So you're basically what you're

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doing is you have You're commanding your dream to help

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you remember what is you know what you dreamt. You

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could ask something more specific. You've got an issue in

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your life that you want to sort out and you

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want your dreams to help you with. If you could

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ask your dream a specific question. For example, dream tonight

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as I sleep, please help me understand why I'm not

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getting off with my coworkers for example. That's just an example.

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So the point is you're taking time in a quiet space,

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you're asking, you're setting a heart intention, and you're in

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a conversation with your dream. Then what you typically you

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can either just go to sleep after that, or if

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you want to amplify the energy, you can do a

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little ritual before you go to sleep. So, for example,

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if you are asking the dream about why you're fighting

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with your coworkers, you can perhaps take your work notebook

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and sleep with it next to your ideal pillow, just

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to because it's bringing in the energy of work into

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your dream state, just kind of adds a little bit

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of fuel. Then when you go to sleep, go to sleep,

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and when the minute you wake up, you have to

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take notes of whatever you remember. It doesn't matter how

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small or seemingly insignificant, and get very very granular. If

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you say you don't remember, all you do is when

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you wake up, you write down how you feel it

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because it's that's the left over from your dream. And

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if you do that for three weeks in a road dog,

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I can guarantee you and start remembering dreams.

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Oh fascinating. And shall that bring up the next question?

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So in our dreams, is it really in many cases

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are subconscious that that area that we don't even we're

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not even conscious about the subconscious that is literally affecting

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our lives because we know that that really is our

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life experience based on our limiting beliefs, our beliefs, whatever

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that happens to be. Do the dreams really bring up

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the subconscious that we're able to look at those and

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analyze those and potentially start to find some solutions.

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Very much. That's the whole idea of working intentionally with

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your dreams, is that you can bring to the surface

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what was out of your awareness in your daily life,

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because those things are sometimes to confront for us, you know,

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to just go there. So your dream offers you a

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vehicle to surface that and to work with really deeply,

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deeply hel things that we haven't Sometimes we know what

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they are, and sometimes it's the first time we've ever

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thought about it. So dreams can have dual purposes that

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can bring deeply unconscious to the surface. Or you can

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dream about things you kind of know about but you

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haven't really learned the lesson, so it gives you an

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opportunity to take your understanding of it further.

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Well. And you know what I do know is is

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people are seeking to overcome those challenges in their lives,

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and obviously they have to get to the point where

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they become aware and mindful enough to realize that, you

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know what, what I'm experiencing in my life is not

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what I want to experience. And ultimately, as you know,

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when we finally take the responsibility to say, you know what,

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I can't I can't be a victim and blame everybody

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else for what's going on in my life. I really

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have to take the responsibility to recognize that I'm creating

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my own life, even if it's subconscious stuff. So that's

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the first step. But then there are so many challenges

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that people experience when they start to really want to

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focus on that healing and that growth. What are some

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of the common challenges that you see your client's face

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and how do you help them to overcome?

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Yeah, okay, that's so great. I mean, actually, you're right.

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In order for somebody to embark on a journey of

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change and healing, they've got to have to own it.

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And that's actually a big barrier to get to. I know,

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there's a problem to I actually own that I'm the

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common denominator in my life. It's not moving from the

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head to the hearts. So let's assume that they are there,

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that they know that they actually have internalized that they

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have to change. One of the biggest most common barriers

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in change is getting off the starting blocks. You know,

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a lot of people understand their stuff, that understand what's

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holding them back, but actually making the changes in real

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life is the tricky part. You know, it's a little

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bit life knowing a recipe but struggling to cook the meal.

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You know, it's the gap between what we know about

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ourselves and turning it into action. And you're right, you spoke,

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You've just said, you know, we get to a point

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where we realize that this is really you know, those

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moments of discomfort where we have enough motivation to want

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to change, but most of us don't need that wake

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up call. Now at an energetic level, you have to

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very often. You have to be at a point in

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your life where the status quo feels unbearable, it's no

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longer tenable. You've got tired of the patterns in your life,

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but you know, really really tired. There's actually almost a

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survival element to it. If I don't change, I really

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won't be able to continue. I really won't be able

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to functionally effectively anymore. And so that's the big thing,

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is getting off the starting blocks. And you know the

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question then, because underpinning that is fear. So how do

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you deal with fear? And the best way to deal

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with fear is through the antidote, which is love, So

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bringing love into the moment. And how do you do

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that in practical terms, You really increase acts of self care,

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You do stuff for yourself that neutralizes the fear through

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self care, self love, self respect, and you know, sitting

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with your fears. The other part of it, I've learned

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through my own experience that the human body can't actually

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sit with intense emotions too long. For me, it was

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about seventeen minutes. I think the limit is about eighteen minutes.

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And really going into your fear and why what would

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happen if I started changing my life? What's the fear about?

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That's a really important part of it. And also working

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with your dreams ask maybe this is a point to

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ask your dreams stack and say, dream can you explain

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to me why I'm so scared of change? So getting

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of the starting blocks is a big one. There are others,

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but that's a really big one.

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Well. And you know, it's interesting about fear because so

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often people don't realize I think that the fear of

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the unknown. I think this is where the resistance to

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change becomes so strong, because it's easier to be comfortable

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with the known, even though you may not enjoy it,

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versus the unknown. And so as you say, and I

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appreciate what you say there, fear can be such a

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challenge in our lives. And you know, how have you

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find as you're working with their clients, how do you

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help them really overcome that fear of the unknown so

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that they're really willing to move forward. Now. Talked a

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little bit about the dreams, but could you get a

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little bit more definitive.

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Yes, Well, they're different ways you can do it. You

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can either help them. You can either increase their sense

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of discomfort with the status quo so that they're like

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now propelled to get off. That's not typically my way

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of doing it. Or you can really bring psychological safety

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into the process for them and help them experience change

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and healing in a way that is actually fulfilling, not scary.

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And it's quite easy to do because you know, most

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of us are motivated by to evolve. We all want

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to grow into most of us want to grow into

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the best version of ourselves. So all the way in

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the process, as people are taking small steps forward, I

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am supporting them. I am helping them acknowledge and really

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celebrate the progress they're making. And I love learning so much,

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so it's really easy for me to help people see

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that this is actually a really fulfilling process. Once you

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get over the hump, you know what's on the other side.

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I help people see beyond the finish line, because that's

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where you want your energy to go, you know, I

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want to you know, focus. Oh my god, this is

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so difficult, but you actually really keep people focused on

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the bigger picture is a really important part of what

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I do well.

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And you know, as I think about dreams, and you

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know so often and we kind of, you know, smile

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and lamp about this, but when people think about dreams,

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they're going, oh, come on, give me a break. You're

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you're helping people through their dreams. But let's look from

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a more scientific standpoint. What is happening to the brain

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when we sleep? Is is it a form of hypnosis?

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Because we know that hypnosis hypnotherapy can literally allow us

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to bring forth those emotions and remember things that we

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don't normally remember. What is it about sleeping that allows

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the subconscious to bring or you know whatever, to bring

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up those elements that we need to be able to

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be aware of and to deal with. Could you share

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with the audience what you feel about that.

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Well, I don't really know about the physiological side of sleeping,

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but I know that there are different brainwaves. You know,

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this is not the same as a meditative or hypnotic brainwave.

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That is a theta state. That is a very different experience.

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And I can bring people into Theta state as well.

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That's the other thing. But I'm not sure I can

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answer it only reading from a psychological perspective, which is

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that your mind, your active brain, shuts down, your defenses

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go down, and you enter a brainway state that allows

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you to just, you know, all the unconscious stuff to

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come up. I don't know the physiology behind it, Doug

463
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.240
to be honest, I wouldn't be able to answer that.

464
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.240
But what I can say is it is a different

465
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.759
state to hypnosis, which is a Theta state, and the

466
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.400
thea still theater I think Americans call it. Theater is

467
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:24.359
that state where if you you might have experienced it,

468
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:31.400
where you're awake, semi conscious, you're it's like you're standing

469
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:37.000
back and you are observing what's happening, but you're kind

470
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.319
of witness. You stand. It's like you're in the background

471
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.400
of what's happening, but you're aware of it. It's a

472
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.480
very powerful state to be in. And when I'm in

473
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:52.799
THEA state, that's when I set intensions. That's when stuff

474
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.680
information gets downloaded to me from our whole self that

475
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.920
I ordinarily wouldn't think of. I write prolifically state because

476
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.400
I'll forget about it afterwards. So yeah, that's a different state.

477
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.720
Well, and I think sometimes people do reach that in

478
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.559
sleep from what I've what I've seen and studying. Not

479
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.359
often you know they're in that alpha state and so forth,

480
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.319
but occasionally they can get there. So but as you

481
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.119
talk about the Theta state and that's where you're able

482
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.559
to really set intentions and so forth, what comes to

483
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.440
my mind is a question is how do you get

484
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.400
yourself into that Theata state? Is it through meditation? How

485
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:33.079
do you do that?

486
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.720
Well, you have to build the capacity. So that's why

487
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.759
I'm working with energy, and that's it took level I

488
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.480
think I was in end of level two training when

489
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.400
it started to happen. Because how you do it is

490
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:50.200
by expanding your energetic capacity, activating your energy through multiple

491
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:55.079
energy activations. You're able to do that. And initially it

492
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.039
was oh gosh, like suddenly it would come on me

493
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:00.920
when I was someone was doing healing on you, or

494
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:02.759
just before I was going to sleep, or while I

495
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.480
was lying on my bed, it would that suddenly come

496
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.880
on me, and then I would capitalize on it. Now

497
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.839
I can do it through intention, so I can set

498
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.440
the intention. It's almost like to go into that state

499
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.799
I can just sit quietly and then I sink into it.

500
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:22.200
But it took eighteen months of really intensive energy healing

501
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.680
and energy activation to get there. So that's something that

502
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.240
you probably for the uninitiated, would need a little bit

503
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.759
of support getting into well.

504
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:37.519
And you talk about energy activation, energy mastery, explain to

505
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.799
the audience what you mean by that, Because you know,

506
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.599
I think of energy and I'm thinking, Okay, I'm running

507
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.599
and I got energy and so on and so forth.

508
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.079
We're talking about an entirely different element here. Can you

509
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.880
explain to the adage what you mean by energy and

510
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.599
what is it to master that type of energy within

511
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:55.240
our lives?

512
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.640
Yes, now, and it is different. I mean you're absolutely

513
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:03.920
right in the sense that it's not feeling energized, something

514
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.960
quite different. And actually, what I'm helping people work with

515
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.519
is I mean, energy is the life force. It's the

516
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.440
breath of life, That's what it is, and it runs

517
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:19.279
through us. It regulates everything in life, including the strength

518
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.599
and the quality of our thoughts and our emotions. Because

519
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:27.440
actually a thought isn't anything but an energetic frequency, right,

520
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.720
same with an emotion. Right. So if you can think

521
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:36.119
about it as the power behind everything, you do. The

522
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:42.200
invisible fuel that drives how your influence is, how you feel,

523
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:46.160
how you think, how you navigate life. That's what it

524
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:51.519
is now. Yes, it can be low vibrational. You'd have

525
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.599
blocks which make you feel lack of energy drained. But

526
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.079
also the thing that I'm more interested in is when

527
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.880
we develop in a blocks, they become like invisible handbrakes.

528
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.799
They put the brakes on, and we find ourselves in

529
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.920
these repetitive patterns of thinking and behaving and being and

530
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:14.359
experiences that just can't get out of this. It's like

531
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.279
a cycle. And we may have tried other forms of therapy,

532
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.160
we may have tried. Nothing we can do can shift it.

533
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:26.200
And that's because the energy hasn't been released. The experiences

534
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.119
that we hold, the memories, all the things that are

535
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.359
fueling the stories we tell ourselves and the identity. These

536
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.640
things have an energetic frequency. That's what I'm working on,

537
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:41.000
the blocks, the things that hold us black, and working

538
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:44.680
at the energetic inception point of that to release the blocks.

539
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:46.079
So it is very different.

540
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.960
Well, and you know, as you say that, I think

541
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.599
about why is it that people continually experience the same

542
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:56.039
thing over and over again in their lives and they

543
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.640
can't figure it out. And when you talk about energy

544
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:03.359
and particularly their subconscient that and we're like magnets obviously,

545
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.160
and so whatever that energy is that sometimes we're not

546
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:12.759
even aware of, attracts and brings to us the similar frequency,

547
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.680
as you say, of the similar energy, which means it

548
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.759
can be negative or it can be positive. So how

549
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:23.160
does one start to release that type of energy? I know,

550
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.359
you know, people talk about chakras, they talk about all

551
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.319
these different things, they talk about the frequencies in the

552
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:34.200
quantum field. How does one go about, based on your experience,

553
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.759
starting to release those negative energies and create the positive

554
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.440
energies that start to attract the positive things in our

555
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.559
lives where we start to really experience that sense of love, joy, happiness,

556
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:48.799
whatever that is.

557
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.799
Yeah, yeah, well, I guess that's the question. We're going

558
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.279
back to the question about what energy mastery is. And

559
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.279
I just remember that as you were asking me this

560
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.920
question that I've forgotten to answer, I've your question before.

561
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.160
So what it is is, there's five My lueprint has

562
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.880
got five elements to it, the capacity to understand your energy.

563
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.719
So having a higher level understanding consciousness regarding not just

564
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.920
your energy levels, but your blocks, your patterns, and you

565
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:24.199
know what triggers you, what triggers your mood to change,

566
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.679
what triggers your energy to dip, what gets you in

567
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:29.880
and out of stake. So understanding is the first part

568
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:33.039
of it. Second part of it is protecting your energy.

569
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.119
So before you even work on yourself, you've got to

570
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.800
start by eliminating blocks in your environment. Okay, not within you,

571
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.719
but in your environment. People that bring you down, jobs

572
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.079
stuck in my case, jobs that you know I have

573
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.639
broken you you There are things we can do to

574
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.800
eliminate blocks in our environment. Third part of energy mastery

575
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.000
is the clearing and this is where the real work stocks.

576
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.400
And it links to the question you've just asked now,

577
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.480
because we've all got int energy box. They accumulate over

578
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.320
time and you know and what we do, you're absolutely right.

579
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.280
We work with the chakras. I teach people how to

580
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.960
scan their chakras and how to feel initially, how to

581
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.519
intuitively feel where there which chakra might have an energy block.

582
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.000
So that's a skill. Then once you've found it, say

583
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.679
it's in my throat chakra, how do you release it

584
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.440
and how do you replenish? Because once you've released the

585
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:32.079
block you can't leave avoid. The universe doesn't like voids.

586
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.559
You've got to actually fill it up with love and

587
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:36.880
light and you've got to close that. You know, you've

588
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.920
got to replenish it. So there's a methodology that you

589
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.679
teach people to do that. But there are simple things

590
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:44.840
you can do to help clear your energy. That's the

591
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.280
third one. How do you maintain your energy? So how

592
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.840
do you interrupt dips? And how do you optimize? That's

593
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.320
the activation pach, I expand your capacity, But in the

594
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.960
clearing space, you don't. I mean, the best way to

595
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.119
do it is to learn how to do it. And

596
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:00.559
I can't do that now, but.

597
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.519
It is going to be my next question.

598
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.480
I can't and I'll tell you why, because it takes.

599
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.920
It's a graduated process, and it's just it takes. I've

600
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.119
got a series of lessons. It's not simple, and the

601
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.760
principles you've got to learn before you do it, you know.

602
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.880
But if you don't know how to do the clearing,

603
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:24.079
you can do things in your own way, like to

604
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.559
clear blocks. I mean, one way is you've spoken about

605
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.840
is working with your dreams. Because blocks are likely repetitive

606
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.559
patterns are likely to come up in your dream state.

607
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.000
But also you know, getting out into nature. I love

608
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.639
the energy of fire and so I love being in

609
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.679
the sun. And if I've got back to back meetings

610
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:46.039
Doug and I'm feeling particularly flat, I've had a really

611
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.800
awful meeting and I'm feeling flat. Most of our stuff

612
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.599
is online these days. I'll step away for five minutes,

613
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.599
less than five minutes going to my garden, stand in

614
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.719
the sun. And what the fire energy does is it transmutes.

615
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.000
It pears and it transmutes. If you're feeling low, it's

616
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.679
going to turn. You're going to walk away feeling a

617
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.199
bit innovative and lifted. It gives you a pick me up.

618
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.840
So that's those are things for other people. It's water,

619
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.039
you know, getting having a swim in the seat. Salt

620
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.599
water can be very cleansing. Otherwise, you know, standing under

621
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.719
a shower people love that. That can be a very

622
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:26.119
cleansing way of you know, just cleansing out your energy.

623
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.760
It's not going to go to the deep beheld stuff,

624
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.000
but it's going to cleanse out your energy level to

625
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.719
some degree. So there are simple things we can do

626
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.199
using elementals in nature as well.

627
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:41.599
How I love that. I love that well. And you know,

628
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.079
one of the things you're talking about, and we haven't

629
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.119
really labeled that, you've mentioned it a couple of times,

630
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.599
is this sense of mindfulness, a sense of consciousness and

631
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:55.760
realizing that this is this is a level of awareness

632
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:01.039
that most people don't really experience, particularly when they have

633
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.480
all of these subconscious things going on in their lives

634
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:07.800
that's creating their experience. And as you talk about that,

635
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.800
what is the effect of that mindfulness, of that consciousness

636
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.599
to be aware as you say, if a trigger, if

637
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.519
you get triggered, rather than responding in that emotional way

638
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:27.039
going wow, I just got triggered. What is it subconsciously

639
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.639
that is causing me to get triggered? And all of

640
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.599
a sudden, now you have become mindful, You have become

641
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:38.079
conscious of that element rather than being affected by it.

642
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.840
Yes, yes, it's right, it's well. I think consciousness and

643
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:47.159
awareness is the start of any journey of learning, change, healing.

644
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.400
Doesn't matter what modality you're using. You know, and if

645
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.480
you're sitting in talk therapy and spend a lot of

646
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.119
time unpacking your past and really bringing to the surface

647
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.920
what some of your behavioral drivers are. In energy work,

648
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.480
I do a similar thing. But we're really teaching people

649
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.840
how to get in touch with their internal state, and

650
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.440
that it's actually easier than you think. So I'll give

651
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.239
you a simple a simple tool, very simple tool, which

652
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:19.679
is paying attention to your language, the words that you use,

653
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.440
because those words the words that we use the fact

654
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.079
how we think about our lives, how we experience things,

655
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:33.679
and how we show up behaviors, and they're connected to thoughts.

656
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:38.159
You know, that's actually a bidirectional process because our thinking

657
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.079
distorts our language, and our language distorts our thinking. So

658
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.559
really a simple thing is to just pay attention to

659
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:51.480
words that you find yourself using. Now, for me, I

660
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.719
had a really interesting experience with this. I woke up

661
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.000
one morning after an eight hour good sleep and I

662
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.320
talked to myself away. I woke up, I got out

663
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:10.079
of bed, and I heard myself saying out loud, I'm exhausted. Okay.

664
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:13.280
It was like, now, what's that about, I've just had

665
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.599
an eight hour sleep? And then I noticed in the

666
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.679
day and in the following days, I used a a

667
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.079
version of that word all the time. They're exhausting. It's

668
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.039
exhausting me. I'm exhausted that you know, different iterations of

669
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.639
that word, and it struck me that I needed to

670
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.840
look at this what does this mean? And when I

671
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:38.480
went inside, I realized and that's the process of just

672
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:43.079
sitting with yourself and kind of journaling and dreaming. I

673
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.559
realized that it was a statement of Internally, I was

674
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.840
feeling very burnt out. I wasn't physically tired, but emotionally

675
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.119
I felt like the demands of my life were greater

676
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.400
than my capacity to deal with them at the time.

677
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.920
And now that was an interesting insight into what was

678
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.440
going on beneath the surface. You know, for other people

679
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.920
they call they say, oh, such an idiot. You know,

680
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:11.679
watch yourself saying that and give yourself a chance to

681
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.280
unpack what's that about? Why do I keep saying this

682
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:20.400
about myself? So using words or I'm focusing on our

683
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.840
language is a really easy way to get beneath the

684
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.079
waterline and see what's happening beneath the surface.

685
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.440
Well, and do you do you have any stories you

686
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.920
can share about how this energy healing has literally transformed

687
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.280
an individual's life one of your clients.

688
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.719
Yeah, I mean, I've got to be careful because I

689
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.199
don't you know, some of my clients actually listen to

690
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:46.199
these podcasts so so, and I've got to always maintain

691
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:48.519
just confidentiality, but.

692
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.599
I will absolutely I will.

693
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.719
Talk about one person or a couple of people had

694
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.800
a similar experience with me. The one person came to

695
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:03.039
me because they wanted they'd lost touch with friends. Actually

696
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.719
they were lonely and their marriage was not great. There

697
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.079
was something like they'd isolated themselves off and they wanted

698
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.159
to reconnect with friendships, and they wanted to build meaningful

699
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:20.599
connections with other people, including their spase, and they were

700
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feeling at the time like a sense of numbness apassing.

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And I did a healing on her, and I actually

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found was interesting because I I read her timeline and

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I found a repetitive pattern that happened at the start

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of every decade where there were major incidents at the

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start of every decade where this person disconnected from intimacy.

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And so I did the work, and then afterwards, I

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remember they reported having a really vivid dream, which was

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highly unusual. They had a heaving cold with lots of coughing,

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which was also very highly unusual. And I realized, Okay,

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they're purging. Stuff is coming out to be released, and

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it took about two weeks, one to two weeks, maybe

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ten days, where their colleagues could see a change in

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their ability to really kind of connect. That felt lighter,

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they felt they were just there was something it shifted

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in their connection with their colleagues. The dynamics shifted with

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their spouse. This person's spouse started to come forward. And

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what struck me is that when I'm doing work like this,

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I'm healing not only the person but also the family

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dynamic because they connected so tired. So that was really interesting.

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It took up a week or two where their blocks

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around intimacy and I'm not talking sexual, talking dis relational

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intimacy were healed really quickly. And I had a similar experience.

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I remember with another client who came with a very

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deep issue. They had a memory of being abused actually

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as a child, and in one session literally once they

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felt like, you know, this weight had they were living

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with a sense of weightlessness for the first time since

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they were a child, and their relationships to their colleague

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colleagues and you know, their spouse had changed fundamentally and

730
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there was a noticeable difference. So you know, those things

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that can happen very quickly if the person's ready very quickly.

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I love that as we come to a close and

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which such conversation could go on for a few more hours.

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I was looking at the time that yeah, I know, I.

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Know, it just goes bar. As you think about the audience,

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what would be a message that you would like to

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share with them that might help them in their lives.

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The message I think that I want to share is

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that energy runs the show. Everything is energy, and if

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you release your blocks at an energetic level, you're going

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to release an invisible handbrake that's been holding you back.

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So give it a go. You don't have to be

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able to really see it for it to work. And yeah,

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that would be my message that you know energy, If

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you want epic transformation, go the energy route.

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I love it. Gabrielle, thanks so much for being on

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the show. How do people find you?

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They find me on my website, which is a generative

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growth dot com dot au. There are multiple ways of

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getting in touch with me there, or they can just

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connect with me on Instagram Gabrielle dot.

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Con Style Okay, Gabrielle dot Pemstone P I M S

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T O N E. Folks for that, So folks, thanks

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for listening. I hope this, I hope this has energized

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you a bit to really look at things and look

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at another way in which you might find some success

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in happiness. So as a doctor Doug saying namastae, he

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Dealt Turner to ten and year