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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what
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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,
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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.
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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is
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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you
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to do the same.
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Mattina, welcome to the show.
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Oh thank you for having me, Doctor Dick. It's absolutely
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a pleasure of sharing this conversation is face with you.
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Well, I'm excited. So where are you living now?
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I am in Canada near Toronto.
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Oh really, okay, cool? Cool, I'm going international.
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Well, and I'm in time. Yeah, I'm in Thailand. So
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it's six point thirty in the morning or no, what
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is it eight forty in the morning for you, yes,
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and seven forty in the evening for me.
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Completely different time zones. You've already lived today.
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I know, I know I have.
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So I know you have an interesting story and a
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lot of what you're doing now it appears as a
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result of some of the discoveries that you made personally
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with what you've gone through. So I'd love for you
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to share with the audience kind of who you are
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and what's what's the motivation and what's the story behind Mattina.
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Singh oh wow, I love that question. Thank you for asking.
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We were telling a story because we can relate to
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stories as human beings. Okay, so for me, I remember
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this day as it was yesterday, where you're sitting in silence,
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and I was literally in the dark in my living room,
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sitting on the couch, absolutely nothing on, and the silent
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tears were rolling down my eyes. But my mind couldn't
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comprehend why that was happening. I was safe, my children
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are safe, we were happy, we were building a life
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that you wanted. I was having the peace that I desired.
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And why am I still crying? What is still that
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missing piece that my heart is craving right now. And
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so many times we have these silent moments, these whispers
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in our lives that whatever reason, we don't give the
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attention in time to But in that moment, I could
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not ignore it anymore. I needed to lean in. I
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need to understand what was inside of me that I
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had not birth it yet, that I was living someone
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else's agenda almost I'm trying to be the best mother
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and the best employee, but who am I truly? So
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that journey of me discovering who I am has led
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me to do the amazing things that I do right now.
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But it didn't come from day one to day too.
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It literally took me to understand myself, invest heavily in myself,
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and really get to a point where I'm like, wow,
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all of this was living inside of me, and I
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was breathing through every day. I was carrying that heavy
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backpack every day without realization, without even thinking that there's
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a possibility for me to put that down. So as
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I put it down, and as I have been blessed
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to help people understand their own emotion, understand their own
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ability to stand up and show up for themselves. Now
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the game has changed. Now I have chang. I'm not
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the same person I was ten years ago when I
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was sitting in that living room. I'm a completely different
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woman because I'm owning myself more, embodying a part of
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myself that I hadn't embodied at that time. It's about
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an embodiment practice that I help my clients, mostly women,
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but also sometimes men and children get to so that
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they can really live their lives on this wholeness that
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they already embody.
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What do you think is?
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I mean?
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For you, what was the cause of that?
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And for the women that you work with, what seems
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to be the major cause and reason why they're going
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through those type of experiences that they need your help.
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For me, it was divorced, and I'm going to say
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divorce is just this little tag that we have created,
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but is beyond that. It's that emotion where I personally
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was living avoid I was making sure and this is
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what I was taught as a little girl, right, make
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sure you have a good education, get a good job,
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find you a good partner, get children, get a house,
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have the cars, have the vacations. Now, oh, your magic
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box is complete. There's nothing else you could ever desire
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because you have it all, but these are all external things.
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So for me, filling all of these boxes trying to
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be this perfect person, but having this void inside of
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me was literally because I was filling it with all
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external things without any comprehension of my internal mind map.
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So the cause wasn't the divorce, but the awareness that
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came probably sounds like it was because of the divorce.
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And it's very interesting how women work.
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Okay, please explain, I'd love to know.
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When I look at my own marriage, I knew really
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early on it wasn't what I really wanted, but I
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kept doing the things. I kept putting a smile on
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my face, I kept showing up, I kept doing what
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I thought was the right thing. Not until a year
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and a half later, after me stepping out of that marriage,
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did I have enough clarity to understand that I was
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fulfilling external things, but I was leaving myself empty. As
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a woman, we're taught literally taught to make sure the
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house is in order, work is in order, children are
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in order, so we are very pushed outside of our
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own internal frame and making sure everyone else is taken
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care of. Everything else is taken care of, and then
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when you have the time, go attend to yourself. But
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what do we do as women? Then we go for
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the haircut, we go for the spoty, we go for vacation.
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We numb our mind so that we can tell ourselves
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that we have it all.
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So what's really happening, if I'm hearing you right, is
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that that we're.
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Really and we're all doing this.
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We all to some degree, are living lives that are
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expected of as that have been told we have to be.
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We're kind of impostors, aren't we. Yes, we're living as
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impostors in our life. It's interesting.
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I do a behavioral analysis, and as I was working
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to get the program that I wanted to use, one
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of the main focuses that I wanted was that because
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most most personality test, behavioral analyzes give you just one answer, right,
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And I'm looking at that and going wait, wait, wait,
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wait a minute, because I had been involved in something
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previously where we looked at what's that innate personality, what's
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the social personality what you should be, and is that
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how you're acting? And then what's your conscious one? And
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it's amazing to me that most people live in that
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social personality, they're literally living the lives that they think.
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Are expected of them, rather being than being true to themselves.
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But even that comes from this very innate need of belonging.
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And I learned this from Tony Robbins. We have two
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needs as human beings. One is a sense of safety
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and the other one is in need for belonging. Because
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we want to belong to our family, to our friends,
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to our partner, to our children. We will go to
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detriment of ourselves to make sure we have this false
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sense of belonging.
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So how on earth do we come out?
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I know you you've got the phrase soul scene method,
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and so I know you're going to get into the
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whole con concept of the soul and that inner life.
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So how does someone break away? Because quite frankly, you know,
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I think most people in their thirty forties, fifties, sixties,
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all of a sudden, you know, like you did, all
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of a sudden, have that one moment of clarity and awareness,
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and then it becomes a year's process of process of
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transformation and so forth. But how do people overcome that
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earlier so that they don't go through all of this stuff?
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What I love for what is happening right now is
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when you're all being all to listen. And listening is
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not in the sense of listen to the Prime Minister
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or the president, or this or the the other. It
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is literally listened to that silent voice inside of yourself.
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We're seeing a rise in breath work, in meditation, in yoga,
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and all of these spiritual practices that allow you to
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find the stillness within. And as I've heard on your
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podcast earlier as well, like stillness is doesn't mean or
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meditation doesn't mean we're gonna sit still, We're gonna be
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like quiet. No, finally, your thoughts gonna be like, oh, yes,
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now we at the time to make her aware or
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make him aware of all the things that we have
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been thinking. And we know by research already that eighty
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percent minimum eighty percent what our mind thinks is negative
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is fear based. That very little twenty percent that is
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positive or that could be evoking you to try something new,
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do something better, show up in at an event alone.
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There are very little people who would have the courage
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to show up at an event alone. They want to belong.
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You don't want to be that little person on the side,
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like I don't know if I can't talk with this,
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but no, so put yourself in places where you're like, think,
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I like this, right, so try it out.
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So how do people you know, it's interesting, you know
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a lot of people come up from different religions, some
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come up with no religion in their lives.
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You know, you talk.
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About that soul within, you talk about the light within.
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Some of that can be theological in nature. For others
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it's becoming more and more non theological.
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But it's just this spirit or whatever, this inside of us.
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How do people start to realize that they are living
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a life that isn't theirs? And how do they start?
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In your opinion, and how did you find that spirit
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within you, that light within you that allowed you to
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truly become.
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I've never done becoming, and that is a misconception that
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I find here so often, Like tend this event and
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you'll become and you'll be. Like being means that being
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fully present in THEMO. I tell you, doctor Duk, I've
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never been able to be as present as I have
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been in the last few years. Am I perfect? Helmo?
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There are many moments where I go stop conscious in
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my hold on this is what we sign up for,
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stop us us feeling too, and now go from it.
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The sole scene method that you lightly pushed upon is
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for me, it is really allowing the person to stop
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and reflect. When we can disconnect from our pain, from
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our stories, from our perspectives that we have believed to
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be the ultimate truth, and we allow ourselves to see
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a slightly different perspective, only then can we change. But
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this is all logical, right, The work that I do
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with my clients is not logical. It is emotional.
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So so I have a question for you, and again
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it's a personal one, so you can say no if
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you don't want to answer this. But and hey, I've
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experienced this too, so I'm the first one to say
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I've experienced this. So when you got married, you mentioned
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that you know almost from the beginning that really wasn't.
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Right, but you did it because that's what you're supposed
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to do. What is it?
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Because we have such a high divorce rate, and I
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know that people experience the same thing. For me, I
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realized that I was kind of marrying my mother and
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guess what, that's not who I should be married to.
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And we tend to put that energy out that attracts
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those people, and yet that energy that we're putting out
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is a false energy, isn't it? Because it's something that
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was embedded within us by external verses.
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So what is false? I heard this beautiful story right,
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and I'm gonna answer the personal question. I have no
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problems hearing this. I heard this beautiful story where a
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man was has his son, and his son was playing
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in the field on the farm and he broke his leg,
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and his neighbor came by and said, oh, I'm so
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sorry your son broke his leg. It's so horrible what
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happened to him, And the neighbors like, you know what,
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it just is? This is what do you mean by that? No,
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it just is. This is what it is. There's nothing wrong,
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there's nothing good. It is just what it is. And
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he lived by this mind frame. Nothing is good, nothing
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is bad. It just is.
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So.
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Then two or three weeks later, the army they were
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searching men for army, and they could not take him
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because he had broken black. The same neighbor comes by again, Oh,