Jan. 5, 2026

Discovering Wholeness and Emotional Freedom with Matina Singh

Discovering Wholeness and Emotional Freedom with Matina Singh

Matina Singh shares her powerful journey of transformation from living by external expectations to embracing self-awareness, emotional healing, and the Soul-Seen Method. Together, we explore how emotions shape our lives, the courage to release old patterns, and the path to authentic relationships rooted in clarity, love, and presence.www.matinasingh.com

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At the end of the day, it's not about what

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you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what

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you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,

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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.

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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Mattina, welcome to the show.

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Oh thank you for having me, Doctor Dick. It's absolutely

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a pleasure of sharing this conversation is face with you.

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Well, I'm excited. So where are you living now?

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I am in Canada near Toronto.

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Oh really, okay, cool? Cool, I'm going international.

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Well, and I'm in time. Yeah, I'm in Thailand. So

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it's six point thirty in the morning or no, what

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is it eight forty in the morning for you, yes,

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and seven forty in the evening for me.

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Completely different time zones. You've already lived today.

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I know, I know I have.

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So I know you have an interesting story and a

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lot of what you're doing now it appears as a

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result of some of the discoveries that you made personally

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with what you've gone through. So I'd love for you

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to share with the audience kind of who you are

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and what's what's the motivation and what's the story behind Mattina.

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Singh oh wow, I love that question. Thank you for asking.

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We were telling a story because we can relate to

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stories as human beings. Okay, so for me, I remember

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this day as it was yesterday, where you're sitting in silence,

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and I was literally in the dark in my living room,

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sitting on the couch, absolutely nothing on, and the silent

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tears were rolling down my eyes. But my mind couldn't

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comprehend why that was happening. I was safe, my children

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are safe, we were happy, we were building a life

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that you wanted. I was having the peace that I desired.

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And why am I still crying? What is still that

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missing piece that my heart is craving right now. And

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so many times we have these silent moments, these whispers

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in our lives that whatever reason, we don't give the

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attention in time to But in that moment, I could

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not ignore it anymore. I needed to lean in. I

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need to understand what was inside of me that I

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had not birth it yet, that I was living someone

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else's agenda almost I'm trying to be the best mother

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and the best employee, but who am I truly? So

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that journey of me discovering who I am has led

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me to do the amazing things that I do right now.

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But it didn't come from day one to day too.

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It literally took me to understand myself, invest heavily in myself,

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and really get to a point where I'm like, wow,

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all of this was living inside of me, and I

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was breathing through every day. I was carrying that heavy

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backpack every day without realization, without even thinking that there's

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a possibility for me to put that down. So as

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I put it down, and as I have been blessed

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to help people understand their own emotion, understand their own

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ability to stand up and show up for themselves. Now

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the game has changed. Now I have chang. I'm not

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the same person I was ten years ago when I

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was sitting in that living room. I'm a completely different

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woman because I'm owning myself more, embodying a part of

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myself that I hadn't embodied at that time. It's about

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an embodiment practice that I help my clients, mostly women,

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but also sometimes men and children get to so that

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they can really live their lives on this wholeness that

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they already embody.

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What do you think is?

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For you, what was the cause of that?

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And for the women that you work with, what seems

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to be the major cause and reason why they're going

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through those type of experiences that they need your help.

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For me, it was divorced, and I'm going to say

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divorce is just this little tag that we have created,

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but is beyond that. It's that emotion where I personally

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was living avoid I was making sure and this is

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what I was taught as a little girl, right, make

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sure you have a good education, get a good job,

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find you a good partner, get children, get a house,

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have the cars, have the vacations. Now, oh, your magic

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box is complete. There's nothing else you could ever desire

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because you have it all, but these are all external things.

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So for me, filling all of these boxes trying to

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be this perfect person, but having this void inside of

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me was literally because I was filling it with all

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external things without any comprehension of my internal mind map.

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So the cause wasn't the divorce, but the awareness that

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came probably sounds like it was because of the divorce.

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And it's very interesting how women work.

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Okay, please explain, I'd love to know.

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When I look at my own marriage, I knew really

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early on it wasn't what I really wanted, but I

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kept doing the things. I kept putting a smile on

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my face, I kept showing up, I kept doing what

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I thought was the right thing. Not until a year

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and a half later, after me stepping out of that marriage,

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did I have enough clarity to understand that I was

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fulfilling external things, but I was leaving myself empty. As

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a woman, we're taught literally taught to make sure the

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house is in order, work is in order, children are

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in order, so we are very pushed outside of our

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own internal frame and making sure everyone else is taken

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care of. Everything else is taken care of, and then

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when you have the time, go attend to yourself. But

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what do we do as women? Then we go for

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the haircut, we go for the spoty, we go for vacation.

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that we have it all.

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So what's really happening, if I'm hearing you right, is

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that that we're.

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Really and we're all doing this.

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We all to some degree, are living lives that are

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expected of as that have been told we have to be.

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We're kind of impostors, aren't we. Yes, we're living as

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impostors in our life. It's interesting.

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I do a behavioral analysis, and as I was working

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to get the program that I wanted to use, one

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of the main focuses that I wanted was that because

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most most personality test, behavioral analyzes give you just one answer, right,

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And I'm looking at that and going wait, wait, wait,

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wait a minute, because I had been involved in something

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previously where we looked at what's that innate personality, what's

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the social personality what you should be, and is that

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how you're acting? And then what's your conscious one? And

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it's amazing to me that most people live in that

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social personality, they're literally living the lives that they think.

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Are expected of them, rather being than being true to themselves.

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But even that comes from this very innate need of belonging.

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And I learned this from Tony Robbins. We have two

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needs as human beings. One is a sense of safety

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and the other one is in need for belonging. Because

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we want to belong to our family, to our friends,

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to our partner, to our children. We will go to

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detriment of ourselves to make sure we have this false

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sense of belonging.

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So how on earth do we come out?

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I know you you've got the phrase soul scene method,

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and so I know you're going to get into the

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whole con concept of the soul and that inner life.

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So how does someone break away? Because quite frankly, you know,

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I think most people in their thirty forties, fifties, sixties,

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all of a sudden, you know, like you did, all

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of a sudden, have that one moment of clarity and awareness,

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and then it becomes a year's process of process of

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transformation and so forth. But how do people overcome that

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earlier so that they don't go through all of this stuff?

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What I love for what is happening right now is

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when you're all being all to listen. And listening is

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not in the sense of listen to the Prime Minister

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or the president, or this or the the other. It

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is literally listened to that silent voice inside of yourself.

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We're seeing a rise in breath work, in meditation, in yoga,

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and all of these spiritual practices that allow you to

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find the stillness within. And as I've heard on your

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podcast earlier as well, like stillness is doesn't mean or

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meditation doesn't mean we're gonna sit still, We're gonna be

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like quiet. No, finally, your thoughts gonna be like, oh, yes,

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now we at the time to make her aware or

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make him aware of all the things that we have

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been thinking. And we know by research already that eighty

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percent minimum eighty percent what our mind thinks is negative

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is fear based. That very little twenty percent that is

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positive or that could be evoking you to try something new,

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do something better, show up in at an event alone.

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There are very little people who would have the courage

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to show up at an event alone. They want to belong.

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You don't want to be that little person on the side,

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like I don't know if I can't talk with this,

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but no, so put yourself in places where you're like, think,

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I like this, right, so try it out.

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So how do people you know, it's interesting, you know

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a lot of people come up from different religions, some

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come up with no religion in their lives.

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You know, you talk.

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About that soul within, you talk about the light within.

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Some of that can be theological in nature. For others

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it's becoming more and more non theological.

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How do people start to realize that they are living

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a life that isn't theirs? And how do they start?

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In your opinion, and how did you find that spirit

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within you, that light within you that allowed you to

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truly become.

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I've never done becoming, and that is a misconception that

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I find here so often, Like tend this event and

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you'll become and you'll be. Like being means that being

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fully present in THEMO. I tell you, doctor Duk, I've

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never been able to be as present as I have

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been in the last few years. Am I perfect? Helmo?

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There are many moments where I go stop conscious in

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my hold on this is what we sign up for,

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stop us us feeling too, and now go from it.

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The sole scene method that you lightly pushed upon is

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for me, it is really allowing the person to stop

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and reflect. When we can disconnect from our pain, from

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our stories, from our perspectives that we have believed to

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be the ultimate truth, and we allow ourselves to see

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a slightly different perspective, only then can we change. But

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this is all logical, right, The work that I do

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with my clients is not logical. It is emotional.

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So so I have a question for you, and again

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it's a personal one, so you can say no if

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you don't want to answer this. But and hey, I've

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experienced this too, so I'm the first one to say

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I've experienced this. So when you got married, you mentioned

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that you know almost from the beginning that really wasn't.

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Right, but you did it because that's what you're supposed

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to do. What is it?

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Because we have such a high divorce rate, and I

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know that people experience the same thing. For me, I

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realized that I was kind of marrying my mother and

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guess what, that's not who I should be married to.

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And we tend to put that energy out that attracts

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those people, and yet that energy that we're putting out

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is a false energy, isn't it? Because it's something that

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was embedded within us by external verses.

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So what is false? I heard this beautiful story right,

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and I'm gonna answer the personal question. I have no

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problems hearing this. I heard this beautiful story where a

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man was has his son, and his son was playing

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in the field on the farm and he broke his leg,

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and his neighbor came by and said, oh, I'm so

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sorry your son broke his leg. It's so horrible what

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happened to him, And the neighbors like, you know what,

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it just is? This is what do you mean by that? No,

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it just is. This is what it is. There's nothing wrong,

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there's nothing good. It is just what it is. And

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he lived by this mind frame. Nothing is good, nothing

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is bad. It just is.

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Then two or three weeks later, the army they were

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searching men for army, and they could not take him

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because he had broken black. The same neighbor comes by again, Oh,

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how good that your son couldn't go. He doesn't have

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to do this and all that. Again, the same answer,

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It just is, we will never know the bigger picture,

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just as I did not know my bigger pick. I

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come from an Indian family, from a sick religion, and

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I was really brought up in a very strict way.

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brought up in a strict way, as in, meet to

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marry in a sick boy. This is going to be forever.

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This is it. There's no other option than this is it.

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And as I got to know my then husband, I

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was coming from a mind frame like, oh my god,

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this guy likes me. This is it. I've made it

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in life. This person likes me. I'm actually being seen

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and I'm allowed to be seen now. But this is it.

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I cannot think any other way. I should absolutely flow

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with this, because there's manager interesting. So that on its

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own is a very wrong perspective to come from and

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start a marriage from now. Throughout this experience of my marriage, yes,

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there was something inside of me that was telling me

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and I was numby in that voice because I was

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brought up with these Now, I believe that my soul

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chose to come into this family, into this specific religion,

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into the specific experience of life, to grow into the

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woman that I am today. So there's nothing wrong with

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him with that experience, with all of that, that hardship

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that I went through because I was meant to go

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through it so my soul could have this evolution is lifetime.

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That's what I choose to believe.

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Okay, And I love that because I believe that too.

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And you know, I think it's so interesting that as

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we as we go through those experiences, you know, so

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many people become victims because it's like, oh, this happened

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to me, This happened to me, rather than looking at

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each incident that occurs in our lives, which we could

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look at from a negative perspective and realize that, you

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know what, with a little bit of gratitude and thought,

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we could realize and maybe it takes us a few

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years to look back, but realize that you, you know what,

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because of this experience, this is who I am today.

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And for you, because of those experiences. Look at the

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difference that you're making for these women that are coming

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to you, and you could have never done that probably

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if you had not had those experiences. And I think

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that's the case for all of us, is that when

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we get to a certain point where we're really making

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a difference, and as you said, it never ends. That

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personal becoming. When I said become, I didn't mean that's

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an endpoint. It's something that we constantly do. I mean

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I meditate practically every day and part of that meditation

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is seeking to become more and more and it never

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ends because I never quite reach it, because I realized that,

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you know what, this is a journey that we go

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on and ultimately, but as you say, who we are

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becoming is a result of what family we were born into,

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where we were born, the experiences that we have, and

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if we can look at that from a standpoint of

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gratitude and insight rather than the other way around, I

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think it makes such a difference.

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It totally does. But I was not the person at

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that time. When I went through the divorce, it was

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all about why is this happening to me? What did

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I do wrong? Why is God punishing me all of

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those things I've said? And in that moment, this is

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why I love. When I'm helping my clients now and

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they're like, how can you not be angry at him,

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I'm like, and drink the poison myself every day. No,

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thank you. I don't agree with the father of my children,

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and that is my right. I can have a certain

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amount of feeling towards the experiences that I've had emotional abuse,

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financial like, whatever it was, and I can label it, right,

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but the label is not the solution. The label is

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just the human mind explanation of the experience. But my

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emotion was completely different. Now. Even this morning, I was

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doing this beautiful meditation where I was guided to send

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blessings to people, and I'm sharing this not out of ego.

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I'm sharing this out of insight right now with you,

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where it's like I'm I was literally sharing and sending

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love to the father of my children based on the

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part of him that feels unloved. All of us have

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part of ours in ourselves that feel unloved. So the

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sole scene means that you're, oh, you are saying yes

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to seeing those parts of yourself that are feeling unloved.

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Okay, And as we feel that, and I think you

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hit on this, as we feel that in love and

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to some degree I think it's ego, we will make

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decisions to feel loved that may not be in our

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best interest. Absolutely, how do you overcome that? Okay?

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So it was a time earlier this year where I

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felt fadly anxious, and that was an emotion and a

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snapshot of my life. And in my anxiety, I chose

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to go outside for a walk and I was searching,

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I don't want to listen to a meditation. I just

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want to talk and listen to something that's talking towards

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my anxiety right now. And I call it. I was

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literally searching emotional pep talk. I need an emotional pep talk,

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like I need to talk to my emotion right now,

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and I couldn't find it. And I looked up in

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anger while the tears are rolling down my eyes, and

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I looked up like, even in my misery, you giving

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me ideas, This is not fair. And it was just

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so perfect because it allowed me to see that as

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human beings, we are driven by our emotion, not by

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logic our emotion. So when we sit down and we

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understand that our emotions are literally an emotion that's full

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going through us, that wants and desires our attention right now.

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So if you feel worried, and there is a reason

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why you're feeling worried, but instead of sitting in that

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story of the worry, did in that vibration of the worry,

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how does the worry make me feel right? Now? Where

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does my body feel heavy right? What are the thoughts

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that are coming up that are making me go? Look, no,

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I don't want to hear us, don't want to feel us,

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because that awareness is the key to allowing it to

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move out of you. But what do we do as

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human beings? We suppress? We pretend, we put up a

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bright face and show up with a bike, smile and

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like I'm happy, I am good. Look at me now, okay?

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Can I also see the part of you that is vulnerable?

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That?

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That's why I do my own podcast as well, where

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I'm sharing my day to day life, where I'm sharing

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my own struggles. I am even though I will will

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help you move your shadows, move out and see your shadows,

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move out your shadows and move out with clarity. It

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is required for you to feel empowered in that exercise

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and that you can be like, oh, I can do

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this on my own. None of my clients will ever

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tell you that they're dependent on me. That's not how

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I work, and as I prove personally, don't believe any

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coach out there should work that way.

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No, it is, yeah, isn't it interesting?

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You know?

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As we talk about emotions and as you talk about frequency.

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And you know what I tell people often is, and

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I did this, particularly when I was working with businesses,

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look at your outcome right now, and tell me what

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it is that you really want, which is different. And

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once they say that, I'll go okay, So I just

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want you to take one step back and tell me

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what would have to happen, just one step back in order.

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For that to be achieved.

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Okay, all right, what would have to happen one step

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before that to have that last step happen? And so

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on and so on and so on until we get

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back to the point where it's the beginning, and it

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goes to the emotions, and it goes to the frequency.

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And what I find interesting is, and I don't know

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if people really understand this, that those emotions create a

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frequency that if we suppress them, it actually becomes stronger

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and we end up attracting the very.

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Things that we don't want to attract, and.

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Our body will do as a service by stopping us,

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by creating a disease. Now, this is very wrong to say.

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A lot of people can be like, what do you mean,

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I cause this listen, I'm not saying you cause it consciously,

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Just saying that your body loves you enough make you

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stop and assess what is really truly turning inside of

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you right now.

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Well, as you're working with people, do you find that

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most of them have had some type of moment of

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clarity like you did as you were sitting there in

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that room dark and look at most people have some

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type of moment of clarity in order for them to

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start really having the courage and the desire to do

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that in our work.

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And then they stop themselves because they're afraid.

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And fear is false evidence of pairing real because what

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do we know? We know what we have created in

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our lives, the way we live our lives, the family

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we have, the people we have around us, and we

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are afraid that everything will fall away. Now, in reality,

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it will because you are changing your frequency. And as

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you change your frequency, the people who are not ready

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to embrace that frequency will make their way out of it.

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Well, and I love how you talk about suppressing your

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emotion and you know, and there's such a.

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Variety of emotions.

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I know that my children's mother passed away last week,

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and as I was talking to son number two, he

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says Dad.

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He says, I was just sitting.

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Working out at the gym and I started crying, and

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he says, you know, it's I'm so grateful that I

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can not suppress my emotions but actually experience those at

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the given moment. And I said, you know what, that's

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a blessing that a lot of people don't have in

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their lives, you know. And there's the emotion of the

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sadness and loss and so forth. But with all of

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the emotions that are there, what do you find as people?

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And we'll get into meditation a little bit more, but

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as people will go into that process of what we

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refer to as meditation and start to experience those emotions

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coming up and recognizing that these are not the emotions

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that I want to experience in my life, how do

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they ultimately allow that to come up and remove it.

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And change it into something different.

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First of all, my condolences is grief is always a

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very heavy topic. It is something that goes beyond logic.

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We can go fine for a week and then have

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a very heavy week after. I find even though even

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though I haven't experienced grief very personally close upon myself yet,

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I know I will at one point I don't haven't yet.

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From a logical perspective, I can say the soul always

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lives on, always in and around our energetic field, as

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a spirit that will guide us, support us beyond the

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logic of our mind. Having said that, I actually became

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an emotion called practitioner just because I want to understand

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emotion more. And this is work that was created by

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doctor Bradley Nelson, And in his book he actually explains

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step by step how you can move those emotions out

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of you. And it doesn't require you to tell yourself

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the story again, it only requires you to identify what

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emotions stuck in your body. If you want to know

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what age you got stuck, you can ask that question

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and you can move it out of yourself by yourself

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through literally a hand palm and go with from the

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top of your head all around until the bottom of

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your neck if you will back. But what happens is

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wed out. I did the same. When I did the

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work for the first time, I'm like, yeah, I felt something,

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but it's okay, it's ever it's second time, this ancestral one,

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I felt spirits all around me, and I'm like, okay,

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I believe you. I hear you, thank you going up

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because I don't know what to do with this, and

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it became my trigger, like hold on. If I am

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able to do this work for my children, for my clients,

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for myself, or my family, for my friends, then I

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can go beyond the logical mind. See, by the time

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that episode is going to live, I will have my

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pep talks out there that will work with your logical mind,

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that will give you empowered questions that will allow you

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to feel the emotion. And at the end, with the

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work and the gifts that I have received through my intuition,

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I will be able to move them out of your energy.

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So if you feel like, Okay, I'm having this specific emotion,

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come up, look up. If that emotion pep talk is

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there out there yet. If not, send me a message

478
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:39.640
in the DM on Instagram or any other platform and

479
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.079
I will response. I will create that for you because

480
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:47.880
I truly feel there's a power in sitting in that emotion.

481
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.200
We can all want to through meditation, through the logical

482
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.039
work that we do, move that emotion out. It's uncomfortable.

483
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:57.359
I don't want to feel it, I don't want to

484
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:57.759
see it.

485
00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:58.279
Let it go.

486
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.680
Let it go. Let it go. But the gift that

487
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.160
emotion is coming up is has a message for you.

488
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.680
So let's sit with this emotion so the message can

489
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.799
come through and now from a deeper level of yourself

490
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.720
can let it go. The top to time, this is

491
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:14.440
a hard.

492
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:15.480
Part, well it is.

493
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.079
And you know when you were talking about these emotions

494
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.599
come up and have you know, one of the one

495
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.920
of the sayings that I love is that was we

496
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:29.440
resist persists. And you know, if we continually fight those

497
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.400
emotions and keep pushing them back down because we don't

498
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:37.160
want to experience them, they continue. And and like you say,

499
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.799
and I love when you talk about pep talk. And

500
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.000
what I find interesting is you know, for me meditation,

501
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.319
I'm from time to time I come up with these

502
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.480
affirmations I will say or pep talk and try to

503
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.039
make sure that they're ones that are believable obviously, But

504
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:58.920
what I know is that literally changes your brain. It

505
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.359
changes your neural pathways, and you're able to literally, at

506
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.200
some point in time change those neural pathways of negative

507
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:10.200
emotions the positive ones. Because you're using as you refer

508
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.759
to as which I think you're referring to as pep talk.

509
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.319
So for me, pep talk is not. The difference that

510
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.680
I find with pep talk and meditation is meditation is

511
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:25.519
about dealing the mind and allowing that emotion to go out.

512
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.480
But what happens often is after the meditation you're good

513
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.680
for a day and then you're like, oh, it's back again.

514
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:35.440
It didn't work. That's because your mind is not believing

515
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.599
what you experience. To help your mind believe what you

516
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:44.200
experience is to give your mind better questions. So the

517
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.160
pep talk is literally about let's identify your emotion. Let's

518
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.799
ask better questions to this emotion. If you feel compelled

519
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.759
to journal about a journal about it. If you don't

520
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.319
like journaling, record your voice, stay out loud all the thoughts,

521
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.839
all the things, all the answers that you are feeling.

522
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.000
Now you have given it voice, either through your hand

523
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.279
or through your own voice. And now that you have

524
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:11.640
created and gave yourself a gift of clarity, now we

525
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.240
can step into the latter part, which is actually the

526
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.880
medication parts, into the release.

527
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.359
Well, and as you talk about I am not a

528
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.880
good journal or I hate journaling, but what I have

529
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.640
discovered and I love what you just said there, you know,

530
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.480
I happen to be a Mac user. So I use

531
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.279
Pages and I discovered on Pages, and I think this

532
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.680
works for Microsoft Word too, that you have a recording

533
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.880
capability where it will hear your voice and it will

534
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.759
type up what you're saying. And therefore, not only are

535
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.039
you able to say it, because I used to say

536
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:46.279
it and then I couldn't remember what I said, But

537
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:49.799
this way saying it is a way to develop that

538
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.599
journaling because now you have it in written form.

539
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.480
Yes, and it's all today with AI. There's so many

540
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:01.359
tools out there. I go beyond Microsoft or Apple, and

541
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.640
you can utilize all of these tools to help you

542
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.880
get into that. See. Honestly, what I would do sometimes

543
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.240
is I will just hit record on my phone and

544
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.519
I will just allow all the things that want to

545
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.559
come out in a moment to come out. If I

546
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.000
feel inspired, I will go back again and listen to it,

547
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.119
or I will transcribe and read through it. But the

548
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.920
energy was not required for you to that, I'll go

549
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.400
back to read it. Is the energy it required for

550
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:28.799
you to release it.

551
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:29.720
Okay.

552
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:32.400
So here's the question that we talked about before we

553
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:33.680
actually started recording.

554
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.039
As I mentioned to you, I have some people that.

555
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.559
I've interviewed, and one of their main focuses on their

556
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:45.640
podcast is working with men that are really struggling with women,

557
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.559
and they're in their fifties and forties, fifties and sixties.

558
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:54.079
And as you're helping these women to really come to

559
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.119
themselves and to be free, do you find that that

560
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:02.759
affects that desire for a relationship with someone else or

561
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.799
do you find that all of a sudden they become

562
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.960
so independent with the women's movement and so forth, and

563
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.440
men have their own problems which would be interesting to

564
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:15.079
talk about, but do you find that.

565
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:15.640
That's part of the challenger.

566
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:20.440
How do you help your clients to truly reach a

567
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:27.119
point of independence and self love and clarity, mindfulness, all

568
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.359
of that, and still want to be part of a

569
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.160
relationship that can be wonderful, joyous, full of true love.

570
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.400
I love this question. For men, what they've been taught

571
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:46.279
from generations ages ago is they're hunters, their providers. For

572
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:52.240
women they're nurturers. So if a man's need is to provide,

573
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.279
they need someone to provide too, And if a woman's

574
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.519
need is to nurture, they need someone to nursere Now,

575
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.559
what has happened with all of these moves, and of

576
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.880
course there are extremes always out there. They're always extremes

577
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.920
like no, I can do it on my own. I'm

578
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319
do it on my own, am Mind you, I've been

579
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.880
on myself by myself for ten years now. It's not

580
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.640
the lack of desire of a relationship. It is the

581
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.240
lack of clarity that keeps the men and the women

582
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.240
away from the So a practice that I do for

583
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:28.359
myself is I you know, this is so beautiful. There's

584
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.519
so many things out there that will tell you the

585
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.359
specific what types of men are you calling in? What

586
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.279
does this person look like? What is what are they doing?

587
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.759
And all of those things. These are all external things.

588
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.599
The way that my mentor taught me is like, write

589
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.160
down how you want to deal with how does this

590
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.960
man or woman make you feel on a day to

591
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:53.000
day basis, so that you know what frequency, what energy

592
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.160
you are calling in. When there's a disagreement, how do

593
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.759
you both work through that? And when you have a

594
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:04.920
clarity in that regard, you can create a unit, a partnership,

595
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:10.079
a companionship that goes beyond logic. The sad part now is, though,

596
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.840
when we decide to go back to a relationship. We

597
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:18.400
are unclear about what we're really truly calling in because

598
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.599
you can have the perfect looking man or the perfect

599
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.000
looking woman in front of you and you can still

600
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.440
say no because there's not this emotion that was evoked

601
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.480
in you that you're looking for. And I'm not calling

602
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.480
about talking about lust or talking about infactuation. That's different, right,

603
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.800
There's enough of that in the world either way. I'm

604
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.519
talking literally about the soul to soul connection that you think.

605
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:42.239
I know.

606
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.840
I know, I know that my man is out there

607
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.960
and he knows that I'm out here. Whenever we will meet,

608
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:52.000
because we will meet, that unit is going to create

609
00:34:52.480 --> 00:35:00.599
an experience that my children, myself himself have desired beyond logic.

610
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.159
Well, and as you as you look for that man

611
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.119
that's going to be supportive and as he's looking for

612
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:07.239
that woman that's going.

613
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.639
To be nurturing.

614
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.519
Do you find that as you're working with women oftentimes

615
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.239
they lose that nurturing or if you're working with men,

616
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:21.000
they tend to be patriarchal rather than supportive. And I

617
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.559
think there's a big difference between.

618
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.639
That and totally totally yeah.

619
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.320
So do you find that that's that's.

620
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.639
Another challenge that people have is that, you know, the

621
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.000
men want that nurturing and the women want that support,

622
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:41.039
but somewhere along the line, it's not existing in who

623
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:41.440
they are.

624
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.119
For men to come to a relationship where they will

625
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:50.039
allow themselves to be vulnerable enough to really truly allow

626
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:54.559
a healthy, nurturing woman in, it requires for them to

627
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.000
feel good about themselves, to feel good with where they

628
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:03.679
are financial and chilly. Or a woman it requires such

629
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.079
a fool good about herself and to feel good about

630
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.039
how someone else is making them feel. The mismatch happens

631
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:17.119
when we go in extremes. I want a woman who's independent,

632
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.320
who's also very much like taking care of the home,

633
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.559
taking care of this, taking care of me, taking care

634
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.320
of all of the things that I want her to

635
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.280
take care of. That's patriarchy. Yes, a woman in her

636
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.920
extreme is like, I'm going to showcase to the world

637
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.280
that I'm so independent. I can have kids on my own,

638
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.119
I can live my life on my own, I can

639
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.800
create a career for myself. Deep down inside, I desire

640
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.039
a man, but I can't tell myself I desire a man.

641
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:47.800
So therefore I'm going to find quick fixes. Blings situationships

642
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.079
to make myself be like, oh you see, I'm still wanted,

643
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.719
I'm still desired, or that's not what I'm seeking. So

644
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.039
when we come from this energy of filling a gap

645
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:05.199
in our lives that isn't already failed by yourselves, by awareness,

646
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:09.559
by love, by understanding, you're going to come from this extreme.

647
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.599
A healthy relationship, in my books, is a man who

648
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.719
is in his divine feminine and divine masculine. He will

649
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:22.199
always be more masculine and feminine because his desire just

650
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.519
because he came and birth as a man, is to provide,

651
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.679
say for a woman. Our desire is to nurture. In

652
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:33.519
my past relationships, even as a child, I always came

653
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.679
to a relationship as a fixer. I will fix this,

654
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.280
I will help you fix this, and I can feel

655
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.840
good about myself. Well, what happens if Matina doesn't have

656
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.599
to fix there's a void? What do I do? Then?

657
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.039
Who do I be? Then? How can I add value

658
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:48.840
to you if I don't have to fix you? Well,

659
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.840
I add value by just being me. My person will

660
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.280
add value by just being.

661
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.639
Him and having that supportive attitude and that nurturing attitude.

662
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.559
And it's interesting as you can get that emotional agreement

663
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.440
and connection going, It changes a whole relationship.

664
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.239
This is so beautiful because so often women be like, oh,

665
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.880
I pay for my own days, right, But now you

666
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:16.519
have robbed a man, a healthy man, from the ability

667
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.320
to provide. Even when you are in a relationship with

668
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.360
a person and everything is going good, you are being nurtured,

669
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.320
you are nurturing, you're being supportive, you're supporting, you are

670
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:30.599
being seen, you are being providing. All of those things together,

671
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.800
there is a give and take because none of us

672
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.320
are going to be one hundred percent every day. And

673
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.599
Brenee Brown always talks about this, like when she comes

674
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.000
home she talks to a progner, I'm like, I'm seventy percent.

675
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.119
Oh it's okay, I'm one hundred percent today. I will

676
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.920
make up for the I'll make up. I'll be there.

677
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.039
And when they both come from an energy of okay,

678
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.960
I'm four fifty to fifty or I'm forty forty, that

679
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.400
doesn't equal the hundred. So what do we do now?

680
00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.599
We need to come to an agreement. Let's give me

681
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.840
some each other's space. Let's give each other the energy

682
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.480
and the requirement that we have. We just want to

683
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:11.239
be held. Yeah, that's enough to calm the nervous system

684
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.639
down for a woman. When the man wants to be

685
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:18.400
providing for a specific thing for you, just allow You

686
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.119
don't have to showcase to him that you can do

687
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:21.360
it yourself all the time.

688
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.039
Great, talk about.

689
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.400
Something you want and it will be fulfilled by this.

690
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.440
And I think that's such a great insight that you

691
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.280
have on that. You know, I think if people would

692
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.039
listen to that alone, it would make such a difference

693
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:34.960
in relationships.

694
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.159
And this requires those self awareness from both ends.

695
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.639
Yes, oh absolutely, not only self awareness, but humility and

696
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:49.280
encourage and putting that ego aside. And you know, there's

697
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.239
some great books out there about ego and putting that

698
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.960
ego aside. And when we can do that and reach

699
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.800
that point, all of a sudden things come together and

700
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:03.679
guess what, we're out of time. Conversation though, I love

701
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.800
so as we finished Number one, how do people find you?

702
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.800
They can find me on my website matinasing dot com

703
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.599
or on any social Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, and it's

704
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:16.639
always a thing or sigmautina.

705
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.159
Okay, and you said that something's coming up that you're

706
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:21.280
working on right now.

707
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.199
By the time this episode will be released, it will

708
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.440
be out there. I will have my pep talks for

709
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.159
specific emotions out there. You can get one specific emotion

710
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.400
meditation med I'm saying meditation. It's not meditation, it's a

711
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.639
pep talk. Or you can get a bundle to really

712
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:37.960
allow yourself to.

713
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.320
Feel okay, great. And as a final message for the audience,

714
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:43.320
what would that be.

715
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.880
As emotional beings, you will always, always, always be driven

716
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.119
by emotion. It is about you taking time to understand

717
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.719
which emotion is driving you, receive the message of that emotion,

718
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.519
and allow the emotion to move through you because it

719
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.480
was never meant to be back in the first Please

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understand yourself, love yourself, give yourself the freedom so that

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tomorrow is a grand new day and with the presence

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and clarity you can create a better tomorrow.

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Wonderful Medina, Thank you so much. This has been a

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wonderful conversation.

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Thank you, Thank you for having me.

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You've met folks, thanks for listening. Hope you've enjoyed it.

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Hope you'll join us again soon. This is doctor Doug

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saying no mistay