Deeper Days - Heal and Transform Your Life

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It's about what you've done with those
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up, who you've made better.
It's about what you've given back. Denzel

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Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision.
Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives

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of others and to inspire you to
do the same. Andrea Wyom, how

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are you. I'm doing well?
Thank you. You know, I really

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am excited to have you on the
show today. You've written some amazing books

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and the thing that we're going to
talk about today just has me totally fascinated.

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But what I'd love for you to
do for the audience is kind of

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talk about your journey. I find
it fascinating that people who are at the

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point where they're really giving to others, lifting the others lives, sharing experiences

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with others. They've had their own
journey that brought them to this point.

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So I'd love for you to share
with the audience your journey and also talk

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about the books that you've written.
My journey's really been the hero's journey.

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Actually, what I've come to find
out. Joseph Campbell has written a book

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about that, and that's the life
path that I've been on. So recently.

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I've written three books in three years. The first one was written No

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Matter how Dark, Disdain Poems and
Inspiration for the Woman in Pain. In

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twenty twenty one, that book was
published, you know, because what I

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heard from the lockdowns was that domestic
violence went up sixty percent. And here

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I had written my whole life since
seven years old, poetry healing through all

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of the things that women go through. I didn't really know what all of

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the writing was about, but I
could tell that it was important. I

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could see this in the vocabulary of
what I was writing, and once the

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lockdown happened, I knew that it
was time for me to get that book

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of poetry out and into those women's
hands, because what I've learned on my

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hero's journey is a couple things,
and specifically about that book is that the

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darkness in life and the hard times
and the light parts of life are both

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love. And I wanted women.
I wanted to touch women's hearts in some

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way so that they can know that
the things that happen are not who they

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are. There's a difference between the
two. So let's then start there.

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The Deeper Days book is the second
book that I wrote, and this one

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was published in twenty twenty two,
and I believe there's a book of versary

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coming up. It was in November, so I am a yoga teacher.

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Is part of how I have this
gift to share with other people probably came

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from these trainings. Deeper Days is
a book that's important because it offers three

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hundred and sixty five so one message
for each day how to find intercom amidst

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chaos. So as we could see
with the world, there was a lot

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of outer chaos, but the inside
of everybody, of all of us is

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peace. But it needs to practice. There needs to be technique to get

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inside that. These are some of
the things I've learned on the hero's journey.

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Recently, I have published Stillness in
the Storm, a conscious daily journal

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of yoga and spiritual healings. This
one touches my soul because it has my

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personal yoga classes. So when I
teach a class to my students, I

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have written out these words exactly so
people can now have me in their living

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room. There's eight yoga classes,
one for each limb of yoga, which

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is sounds a bit technical, but
regardless, you have yoga in your living

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room, and also lots of blank
pages, lots of space to write thoughts

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and feelings because as we read,
things come up. Every book that I

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wrote, everything that I went through
my life has been written down in a

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cute little journal, and so publishing
the first two books is really important to

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me. But also having a journal
for other people to have how I had

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was also really important to me.
It's healing well. And you know you

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have such a background, as I'm
looking up at your bio right now,

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you know Reiking master, resilient chew
and I'm not going to pronounce this right

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she chron Funch, meditation practitioner,
you know all those types of things.

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You have such a very background and
what I find fascinating about that is you

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know, people I find that are
curious about their lives go out and start

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really searching all of these various modalities
and they're able to bring those in and

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then help people. And as you
say, is you've written these books,

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you've actually taken your life experience here
as you refer to it, your hero

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journey, and literally been able to
share that with people with the idea that

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it's going to touch somebody's life and
it's it's going to make a difference in

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their lives. And I think that
that's so cool about today. I really

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want to talk about deeper days because
I am fascinated with meditation, and I'm

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fascinated. You know, yoga for
me is tough because every time I try

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to do any yoga and stretch,
it just kills me. But says everybody

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everywhere I know. And I love
meditation. I've started to do that and

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I meditate and it's kind of funny. I do a walking meditation is one

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thing each morning, and then also
I try to do a regular meditation in

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the evening. And so I want
to I want to talk about the meditation,

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the yoga practices, the deeper days
and the messages that you're talking about.

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But before we even do that,
I want to talk a little bit

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of philosophy in theory here, okay, because what I have found is I

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have talked different people, and you
know, as I've worked with different people.

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Also recently it has come up that, you know, people talk about

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affirmations and I'm thinking, okay,
and I'm here in Thailand, so I'm

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visiting temples, I'm talking to people
who are Buddhists, and what I find

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fascinating I was visiting with a friend
and they were telling me about some of

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the childhood trauma that they had and
that they were the emotional experiences that they

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had had. And as I asked, how do you overcome that, they

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started telling me how they will quote
chant But as they started to tell me

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what they were actually chanting and interpret
it for me into English, what I

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found was that it was just positive
affirmations. And what they said was that

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as they did that, that emotional
drain that they were experiencing about whatever that

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child what experience was, would go
away. And so and so they do

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that on a regular basis. So
based on your experience, do you find

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that you know, we're going to
talk about the messages that someone's you know,

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every day, the messages that they're
going to talk about and so forth.

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But do you find that being able
to through meditation and then verbally or

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at least mentally verbally talking about affirmations
and sane affirmations, does that make a

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difference in someone's life. Yes.
Yes, Everything is energy and your mind

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cannot serve two masters. You can't
be happy and sad at the same time.

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It doesn't work. You can't be
in pain from your childhood and be

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something else at the same time.
To the affirmations or in Sanskrit, you've

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sort of mantra mantra using a mantra
very very similar. So man is for

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the mind and trust is like transport. It's like a transportation because of how

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your mind works, which is what
Buddhism is. Buddhism is a study of

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how your mind works. So it's
a it's a transportation. What you're putting

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into your mind that's something positive.
And we need to do this if we're

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going to overcome any healing, any
childhood trauma. Right, So everything is

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a vibration. When you're chanting,
you can hear. Now if you put

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your hands right here. When you're
talking, it's not so much the worst.

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It's the vibration. Well you're not
talking, but I'm talking, so

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yeah, So you feel that vibration
right there. You feel that vibration.

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That's when you're when you're doing your
app for or repeating a mantra. I

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am love, I am peace.
I can handle any situation that comes to

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me. That's the vibration that's going
through yourselves. And what happens in life

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and dis ease is we get the
energy gets stuck like this. So I

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love the analogy of a river and
in fall the leaves come down and there's

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like a little cluester there, or
on top of the sewer, there's a

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little debris. And it's the same
with energy. When you repeat a mantra,

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when you flow in yoga, when
you meditate, you're freeing up that

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debris and the natural body, your
natural self, your Buddha nature, it's

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nature. Sorry, the common peacefulness
within you is there. So the trick

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is to quiet the mind. Here's
another thing. Your mind won't repeat the

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good stuff. Your mind only repeat
what's already happened, which is in your

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memory. So you have to do
the positive affirmations. You have to say

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the mantras. You have to transport
the goodness into your mind to feel it

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in your soul. But we're not
taught this thing. Great fourth, No,

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No, you know, you know
what's interesting and what comes to my

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mind immediately is, you know,
I've heard people talk about meditation or whether

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they're using NLP, you know,
whatever it happens to be, you know,

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hypnosis, whatever, you know,
getting rid of, getting rid of

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those traumas, those those subconscious,
emotional and physical traumas which become emotional interpretations.

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And my question, and I just
came to my mind as far as

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this question goes, and I want
your take on this, do they really

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go away? Or is it as
my friend was sharing with me, that

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it comes up periodically and as the
sense that is coming up being able to

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do those channelos mantras, or to
be able to do those affirmations through meditation

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or however that happens to be,
puts it away so that it doesn't come

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up as often, or you find
that it literally causes it to disappear.

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What's been your experience? So in
order to get into the mind is where

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you need the practice and the technique. What I'd like to say now where

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I'm at in my life is my
mind is a dance floor, So can

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you dance back and forth as it
comes and goes? This is where you

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want to be. But there needs
to be technique, There needs to be

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some practice in order to get to
that space where when they come, they

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flow through. The feelings come,
they arise in both emotion and feelings pass

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away, breath comes into the body. Breath paths is a way, just

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like the waves of the ocean.
What happens when we don't deal with the

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trauma, if we don't switch the
energy of the bad things that have happened,

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well, not bad. I believe
everything's nature, and I try not

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to say good and bad. What
happens with the affirmations and the practice is

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less suffering, and we can respond
to what arises from a more creative place

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instead of just reacting to things.
How we're talked to, what culture shows

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us, what we learn from our
parents, it's all quick reactivity. Well,

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and now the other thing that comes
to my mind, And I've talked

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about this with other folks, and
I don't know if you've even really looked

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at this, but we talk about
neural pathways. And I know science has

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shown that literally, you know,
our thoughts are based on the neural pathways

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within our brain. So for those
that you know, as we've as we

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and we all have have, as
we've experienced those childhood traumas, whatever they

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may be, at least that's been
our perception of what they are. And

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as we experience those, as we
start to do those affirmations, as we

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start to through meditation or whatever that
happens to be doing those we're able to

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literally change the neural pathways and literally
put to the side those pathways that are

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constantly reminding us of those traumas or
those limiting beliefs that you know, I'm

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not good or whatever that happens to
be, and starts to create a neural

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pathway that is more reminding us that
I am good, that I can accomplish

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these things. Have you ever looked
into that as far as the neural pathways

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go, and being able to change
neural pathways. Here's what I tell my

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students now when they come into my
yoga class. I say this, every

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time you're here and you're practicing yoga, you're creating new pathways, new patterns,

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in the body, new ways to
react, new ways to respond.

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When we're in childhood, we don't
have a choice. We copy our parents.

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It's learned behavior. So when we
have yoga meditation, we can see

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that there's actually a space or we
can take an extra breath, and it's

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in that moment that we can that
we can change the patterns, that we

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make a new path for ourselves.
Yes, go ahead, sorry, yeah,

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So there's nowhere to get to.
We're already here. So there's no

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thoughts that will leave. I can't
take my rape out of me. I

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can't take away the sexual assaults or
the things in the childhood. They're still

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there, right, But you learn
to dance with both, transform the energy

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inside, with the affirmations, with
the process, and you can become like

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destiny really who you are, sharing
love, yoga, all of these things

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are past to love. Yes.
And you know what what fascinates me is

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that as we think about those things, as we think about the yoga,

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the you know, and again you
know, meditation, the postures, the

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breathing techniques, and I think that's
so important that as we breathe in you

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know, and some of the meditations
that I do, they talk about breathe

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in that life and then breathe out
those past situations that you want to eliminate.

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And I think that's so important.
You know, you talk in your

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book with the Deeper Days, you
talk about daily messages, but you also

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talk about the fact that they're based
or described and I can't pronounce the name

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of the suitors his name, what
is that potently? Potentially? Okay,

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So he's developed these yoga secrets.
But you talk about the first section is

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based on yama. Let's let's talk
about that for just a minute. Because

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you talk about the fact that it
creates self discipline in a chaotic mind.

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So can you share with that,
share with the audience, just what are

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those five characteristics? Okay? Honesty, not taking what doesn't belong to you.

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It's ethics is what it is.
I know them in Sanskrit a staya,

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brahmacharia. But these are ethics of
self regulation. This is the very

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first limb of what yoga is based
on. There is no yoga without ethics.

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Well, and you know that's that
simple. It's that simple. As

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as I was reading that, it
was reminding me of a buddha and what

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he taught and that was. I
think it was four or five things that

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The first thing he talks about is
the non violence. You know, don't

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don't kill, He talks about,
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you know, the honesty, the
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about here that that's including time or
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the wise use of your sexual energy
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know it's interesting, how do you
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decide that, you know what,
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those five characteristics in my life,
how would I if I if I don't

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do yoga, but if I do
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on developing those five characteristics in my
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part of who I am? So
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a time. When you meditate,
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time. So it's the same with
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the first one. Non violence.
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deeper days is about. Deeper days
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you're looking there's a self inquiry paragraph
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there's a mantra or an affirmation at
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what you work with throughout the day
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heart a hymn suck. When I
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Buddhist teacher, Michael Stone said to
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can't be non violent in this world
if you don't understand how you kill?

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How do you kill? And you
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do you kill? And you notice
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kill? You want to hear my
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and I think I heard the book
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were like two ninety nine full of
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actresses on the front cover holding their
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I was raising my kids, and
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like a guilty pleasure. Now I'm
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how do I kill? One of
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Maybe my two ninety nine. Buying
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all those people, scares those moms
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Princess Diana maybe died from a similar
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way that I found out that I
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things. The other one is eating
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out because you know, I grew
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girl from the seventies. But you
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has gotten a little bit more aggressive
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preaching to do this or that.
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asked me, how do I kill? There's reasons there. All of the

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answers are inside you. You just
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how do I kill? You'll have
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is when you can work with it. Once you see it, that's when

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you can work with it. That's
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and I find you know, how
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you know, are we becoming vegans? Should we be vegans? Vegetarians,

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whatever that happens to be. You
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we talk about that and people going
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eating so much meat, you know, and so on and so forth,

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it's just amazing how that happens.
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you, because maybe I've been doing
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as I'm doing my you know,
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I usually talk about three or four
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mind, you know, So I'm
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patient and more loving, I'm you
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that, and yet you're talking about
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honesty. Let's talk about honesty for
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something that do you recommend to people
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Do you recommend to people that they
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morning and walk, I'm going to
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what I am non violent I'm honest, I don't steal, I use you

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know, I'm I'm you know ethical, I'm you know all these things I

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don't covet I'm virtuous type of thing
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when you're doing you know, three, four or five things at a time,

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or is it better just to focus
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in order to transform and to switch
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put a band aid on top.
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I believe, and all of my
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much chaos I am. First,
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both. So how do you love? Comes so easy that we have the

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answers, But how do you hate? It's a little more difficult to see

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that side. But if you can, when you relax and when you're still

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in peaceful these things don't crop up
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trying to meditate. If that makes
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what I'm saying in the three books
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before I wrote the book. So
no matter how dark the stains poems and

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inspiration for the woman in pain has
words for every dark thing that can happen

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to a woman, okay, anything, words for it. So that now

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I come into Deeper Days book and
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I'm comm'm calm, I'm come.
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all of the organizing of the things
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the first book did. So now
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this is an ancient practice from the
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It's been around for decades. I'm
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Stillness, and I could really see
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the stones, writing all of the
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magic happens? Does that make sense? So instead of saying your calm,

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instead of saying your calm tomorrow on
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list of all the things that make
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Explore that, and then calm the
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montors, whatever you want to say. You know, one one fellow that

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I worked with for a while would
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you say I am calm, your
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What he says, is he liked. He suggests that they say, I

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like the idea that I am calm
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you verbalize uh, you know,
because affirmations are something that you're going to

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verbalize mentally or or actually pokey and
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you you think about all the ways
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always that I get frustrated, all
the ways that you know, upset

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me. How do you verbalize that
affirmation once you've experienced that, to then

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say, I, you know,
I am calm or is it just then

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in the mind you're sensing that peace
and calmness. How do you do that?

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Okay? If anything, if anything
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it. Here's how you know.
If you have your list of all the

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things that make you crazy, when
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I am calm, you know that
you're calm because you know that you're not

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doing any of the things that are
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are inside you. When you say
I am calm on your walk, you'll

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know it because you already know you're
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experience inside. So when I'm on
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here, when I'm on my walk, or do it beforehand? Do I

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write down, Okay, I'm going
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I write down everything that makes me
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and my meditation, do I then
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me crazy and then seek to feel
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I say, I am calm.
Here's the thing, Yeah, here's the

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thing. You are calm. Your
nature is calm. You're not going to

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go to the store and buy calm
ever in your life, and there's not

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another book or another podcast you need
to do to feel calm. Your calm

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is inside you. In Zen,
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us. We are angry, happy, sad, emotional, all of them,

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calm, peaceful, abundant. Those
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Now which seeds are you watering?
So you'll write out? So this

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is a path, and yoga is
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the self. The only answer you're
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is you. It's your beautiful heart. That's they call it the lotus,

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the jewel in the center of the
lotus. You're it so well, and

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you know, you bring up an
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fact, you know, I don't
know if you've ever done, you know,

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read any of Joe's probably, but
you know what one thing that he

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But one of the interesting things he
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about this too, is that our
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We create a perception of life based
on those beliefs, and if we want

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to change our life, we need
to change our beliefs. So here we

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are talking, you know, for
instance, I get really frustrated here in

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Thailand because I don't speak Tie,
and most Ties don't speak English, and

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if they do, it is really
crazy. And even trying to use Google

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Translate it comes out really sometimes weird. And so one of my greatest frustrations

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here is I just, I guess
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you know, And I'm working on
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those type of things come about.
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we were talking about, our life
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created our own life. We have
created the movie of our life and has

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been talked about that's based on all
of our past experiences. And in order

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to change our life and our perception
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able to change who we are and
our beliefs. And that's really what you're

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talking about here, is you're taking
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on and change those two who we
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on such a key point. People
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of who we really are, you
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the common in the Old Testament, I

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am that I am and here he
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am love, I am all of
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same. And so often I think
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you took out I think it's said
Guru who said this. Regardless, you'll

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understand this point. But if we
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phones, and we've read the whole
instruction booklet to our cell phones, what

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would we be doing on our cell
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be doing. But we don't do
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works when we're growing up, So
how do we know that we can change

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it? Right? Let me say
this, the same mind that creates the

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horror story and the payoff, and
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I don't anymore, that's the same
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You're it, there's only one begotten
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so true. And you know we
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that you talk about in your book, and there's eight of them, and

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would you mind just very shortly going
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two hundred and ninety three if I'm
right about that number. Only now have

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you guessed how many do you think
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see on Yoga journal the postures?
How many of the two ninety three do

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you think are about those poses?
I would have no idea. Two to

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three, two to three. That's
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It's about the ethics. How how
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you kill? How do you steal? It's about being ethical, being able

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to regulate yourself, self regulation,
and it's about observances the niamas, how

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you are on the outside. If
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are you going to take one?
Right? You observe these things and

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you act in a certain way.
This gives a balance so that when you're

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standing in asena, which is another
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equal footing. It gives balance.
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able to concentrate. And here's where
the book Deeper Days helps develop that.

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or one breath at a time,
then you can learn meditation. Once

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you have meditation, you can experience
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go linear, But what I love
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that he puts them all in a
cuckle and we kind of flow through all

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of them, but they're all together
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asana, the yama's, niyama's darana, guyana, samadi. It seems Sanskrit.

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But so here's the point of all
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simple in the book because it can
get confusing, and your mind will hang

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out wherever it's confusing. The left
side of your brain loves to repeat.

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This is why mantra has to happen. Whatever you focus on expands and it's

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in the left side of the brain. Yoga, practice, postures, art,

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poetry, music is all the right
side. So it doesn't stay long.

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It flows in and flows out.
This is why you have to use

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mantra and affirmation. You have to
keep putting it in, not because you're

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a terrible human beings, but because
this is the way that your mind works.

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This is why we have a daily
practice. This is why it's so

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important tough I find for people to
develop different habits. And you know,

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as we as we've learned, you
know, for some people that's taking thirty

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days, for some people, sixty, for some ninety, some longer than

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that to change habits. And what
we're really talking about here is an individual

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deciding number one, that they really
want to change their life, experience that

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movie of their life, and then
the next step is to find ways in

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which to do that. And you
know, I love for you to talk

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about this Deeper Days book and where
people can find it. But then also

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being able to develop I know,
for me, it literally took what probably

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thirty forty five days for me to
get to the point where I meditate every

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day, and you know, for
a while I didn't, And it's taken

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a while to kind of work all
that out and how I can do it

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and so on and so forth.
But for people who are really wanting to

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change their lives. It means that
there needs to be a change of those

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habits. And that's what you're really
talking about, isn't it is being able

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to change habits in a way.
How do you help people to what would

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you say would be the main habits
that they need to develop for them to

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start to experience what you talk about
in your books. I think you have

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to have a spiritual practice, whatever
that means to you. So if it's

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art, do more art, music, do more music. You have to

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have more time on that side of
things than in the chaos, more of

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the calm parts than the chaos.
So by the time I was eighteen,

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I have so many things happened to
me. And I saw Oprah Winfrey show.

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She would have one person on that
was raped or one person that was

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beaten or something, and I'm like, hey, wait a minute here,

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I've had all of this by the
time I'm seventeen, right, So that

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was like a trigger for me that
some things were extraordinary and then to work

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with it. If you're going to
change things, one you need to know

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that you can. And this is
what I want to tell people, and

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this is my message. You have
all you need inside you right now.

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To do it, and there has
to be some kind of practice only because

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your mind is a bit of a
trickster to get in. So you need

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a yoga class so that you can
relax to quiet the mind, or you

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need to meditate so that there's a
way into your calm and peaceful science.

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Also, if people are going to
make a change, we'll bring it back

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to what we said before. Maybe
write the things that you don't like right

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now out Why are you changing?
There needs to be a strong why to

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change? Who would you be?
If? So some people when they were

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just for example, I know it's
a tough subject for a lot of people,

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but if you were raped before,
like in the seventies, you were

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just kind of like a victim,
or there's a lot of victim you didn't

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really know what to do. There
wasn't a pathway out right, So if

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you're going to change, maybe you
pack up all the victimhood and put it

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in a bag and then you start
to move on. And it's not really

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the best example, but I think
energetically you get my point. You can't

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just change and then fluff off,
right. There has to be why am

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i changing? Who am I destined
to be? Who will I be if

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I'm not carrying this around anymore,
If I can be this person that I

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feel in my heart, what do
I have to set aside for that?

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Does that make sense? That's a
wonderful message. And and here's here's here's

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the question that I have. You
know, I think there are a lot

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of people that really approach this and
do that self quote self help that you

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know, that's kind of a common
phrase, self help. But how many

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times have you found that, you
know, you talk about your guide,

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the person that you worked with.
How many times do you find that most

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people need some type of guide,
someone you know, whether you call it

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a coach or you know, whomever, beautiful really to really help you to

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move in that direction and be there
to catch you when you start to fall

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back a little bit. That's a
beautiful question. That's a beautiful question.

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And that's the thing with online.
You won't find me teach yoga online,

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right, I'll teach you in person. Why because you need a teacher to

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point out when you're stuck. I
like to say I'm like an ener gps,

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like thank goodness for all of the
things that have happened to me.

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Because when anybody walks through my yoga
studio doors. I can meet them exactly

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where they're at. And I love
that about me and I love that I

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can reflect the love back in them. No, I got lost off what

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you said. Sorry, Okay,
So let's talk about you. Do you

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coach people? Do you do you
help individuals outside of yoga class? I

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can't come to your yoga class.
But that's why I wrote the books.

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Do you y Yeah? So do
you actually personally help people and guide them

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on a regular basis as they're moving
forward in their path to achieve that sense

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of calm, that freedom, that
piece that joy that we all should be

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experiencing. So because the pandemic happened, they closed my studio doors. And

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this is the reason that I wrote
the books. I found writing the books

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as a way to touch people,
and also what I want people to know

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and how we talked about the hero's
journey at first is this. When I

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was in the seventies growing up in
a small town on Lake Erie, I

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thought that I had to go to
Tibet to find peace. So I did

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so. I worked hard from eleven
and I had all these jobs and saved

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every penny because in Canada, We
still had pennies back then. Now we

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don't. I saved every penny to
so that I could go and find peace

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out in the world, and I
climbed the mountaintops of Brazil. I lived

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in New yor Or City, Italy. I've been everywhere. But you know

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what's happened is the consciousness has lifted. Our consciousness has raised so much that

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I want all of your viewers to
know that they don't have to leave their

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house anymore. We have the Internet, We have the consciousness to know that

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we don't have to suffer as much
anymore, and that doing these practices,

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reading the books that I've written,
I have free videos on YouTube. It

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all, it all helps. It
all pokes through the veil that you're not

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enough, but you are and you
can handle hard things. You said it's

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hard to change habits. That's okay. You can handle hard things. You

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can handle it. Where do people
find your books? Amazon is number one.

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Amazon will get it there by nine
am, no problem. Barnes and

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Nobles. I love Chapters Indigo if
you're in Canada. So I think there's

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thirty nine different thirty nine thousand different
distributors of most of the books except the

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journal is different, so they're all
on Amazon. Ganga Moon Yoga is my

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yoga studio. You can google me
online, you can send me messages.

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If I can help people, I
will help people. This isn't like we're

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all connected here, We're all part
of it, okay. And so again

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the website where people can find you
in some of this information, Ganga Moon

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Yoga Square site. So Ganga is
a river in India. Gonga Moon Yoga

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on Instagram at Andrea L. Whalen
Instagram at Ganga Moon Yoga LinkedIn Andrea Linn

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Whalen YouTube Andrea L. Whalen.
It's o there, all right, and

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it's up there. It's up there. It's been wonderful. Thank you so

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much. What a difference you're making
for people. And you know, it's

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such a struggle sometimes because you never
know, you don't always get that feedback,

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you know, and sometimes you do. I know, I've got one

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person that is feeding back to me. You know, they've listened to a

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show, they've gotten and bought a
book, they've done this type of thing.

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But it's not very often that you
get that personal feedback of the fact

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that you have touched someone's life,
that you've lifted them in a way that

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otherwise they would have never been lifted
up. So congratulations to you. Thank

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you so much for being on the
show. And folks, I hope you've

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enjoyed this, and please go to
our website and really look at some of

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these things, find some of those
books. If you find that these are

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areas that could be a value to
you. Look forward to having you join

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us again soon. This is doctor
doug Ain't have a wonderful week and thank

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you so much. Thank you,
not mistake you