Deeper Days - Heal and Transform Your Life

0:01 This program is designed to provide general information with regards to the subject matters covered. This information is given with the understanding that neither the hosts, guests, sponsors, or station are engaged in rendering any specific and personal medical, financial, legal counseling, professional service, or any advice. You should seek the services of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas. At the end of the day, it's not about what you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up, who you've made better. It's about what you've given back. Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to do the same. Andrea Wyom, how are you. I'm doing well? Thank you. You know, I really am excited to have you on the show today. You've written some amazing books and the thing that we're going to talk about today just has me totally fascinated.

1:11 But what I'd love for you to do for the audience is kind of talk about your journey. I find it fascinating that people who are at the point where they're really giving to others, lifting the others lives, sharing experiences with others. They've had their own journey that brought them to this point. So I'd love for you to share with the audience your journey and also talk about the books that you've written. My journey's really been the hero's journey. Actually, what I've come to find out. Joseph Campbell has written a book about that, and that's the life path that I've been on. So recently.

1:53 I've written three books in three years. The first one was written No Matter how Dark, Disdain Poems and Inspiration for the Woman in Pain. In twenty twenty one, that book was published, you know, because what I heard from the lockdowns was that domestic violence went up sixty percent. And here I had written my whole life since seven years old, poetry healing through all of the things that women go through. I didn't really know what all of the writing was about, but I could tell that it was important. I could see this in the vocabulary of what I was writing, and once the lockdown happened, I knew that it was time for me to get that book of poetry out and into those women's hands, because what I've learned on my hero's journey is a couple things, and specifically about that book is that the darkness in life and the hard times and the light parts of life are both love. And I wanted women. I wanted to touch women's hearts in some way so that they can know that the things that happen are not who they are. There's a difference between the two. So let's then start there.

3:17 The Deeper Days book is the second book that I wrote, and this one was published in twenty twenty two, and I believe there's a book of versary coming up. It was in November, so I am a yoga teacher. Is part of how I have this gift to share with other people probably came from these trainings. Deeper Days is a book that's important because it offers three hundred and sixty five so one message for each day how to find intercom amidst chaos. So as we could see with the world, there was a lot of outer chaos, but the inside of everybody, of all of us is peace. But it needs to practice. There needs to be technique to get inside that. These are some of the things I've learned on the hero's journey.

4:09 Recently, I have published Stillness in the Storm, a conscious daily journal of yoga and spiritual healings. This one touches my soul because it has my personal yoga classes. So when I teach a class to my students, I have written out these words exactly so people can now have me in their living room. There's eight yoga classes, one for each limb of yoga, which is sounds a bit technical, but regardless, you have yoga in your living room, and also lots of blank pages, lots of space to write thoughts and feelings because as we read, things come up. Every book that I wrote, everything that I went through my life has been written down in a cute little journal, and so publishing the first two books is really important to me. But also having a journal for other people to have how I had was also really important to me. It's healing well. And you know you have such a background, as I'm looking up at your bio right now, you know Reiking master, resilient chew and I'm not going to pronounce this right she chron Funch, meditation practitioner, you know all those types of things.

5:27 You have such a very background and what I find fascinating about that is you know, people I find that are curious about their lives go out and start really searching all of these various modalities and they're able to bring those in and then help people. And as you say, is you've written these books, you've actually taken your life experience here as you refer to it, your hero journey, and literally been able to share that with people with the idea that it's going to touch somebody's life and it's it's going to make a difference in their lives. And I think that that's so cool about today. I really want to talk about deeper days because I am fascinated with meditation, and I'm fascinated. You know, yoga for me is tough because every time I try to do any yoga and stretch, it just kills me. But says everybody everywhere I know. And I love meditation. I've started to do that and I meditate and it's kind of funny. I do a walking meditation is one thing each morning, and then also I try to do a regular meditation in the evening. And so I want to I want to talk about the meditation, the yoga practices, the deeper days and the messages that you're talking about.

6:49 But before we even do that, I want to talk a little bit of philosophy in theory here, okay, because what I have found is I have talked different people, and you know, as I've worked with different people. Also recently it has come up that, you know, people talk about affirmations and I'm thinking, okay, and I'm here in Thailand, so I'm visiting temples, I'm talking to people who are Buddhists, and what I find fascinating I was visiting with a friend and they were telling me about some of the childhood trauma that they had and that they were the emotional experiences that they had had. And as I asked, how do you overcome that, they started telling me how they will quote chant But as they started to tell me what they were actually chanting and interpret it for me into English, what I found was that it was just positive affirmations. And what they said was that as they did that, that emotional drain that they were experiencing about whatever that child what experience was, would go away. And so and so they do that on a regular basis. So based on your experience, do you find that you know, we're going to talk about the messages that someone's you know, every day, the messages that they're going to talk about and so forth.

8:18 But do you find that being able to through meditation and then verbally or at least mentally verbally talking about affirmations and sane affirmations, does that make a difference in someone's life. Yes. Yes, Everything is energy and your mind cannot serve two masters. You can't be happy and sad at the same time. It doesn't work. You can't be in pain from your childhood and be something else at the same time. To the affirmations or in Sanskrit, you've sort of mantra mantra using a mantra very very similar. So man is for the mind and trust is like transport. It's like a transportation because of how your mind works, which is what Buddhism is. Buddhism is a study of how your mind works. So it's a it's a transportation. What you're putting into your mind that's something positive. And we need to do this if we're going to overcome any healing, any childhood trauma. Right, So everything is a vibration. When you're chanting, you can hear. Now if you put your hands right here. When you're talking, it's not so much the worst.

9:46 It's the vibration. Well you're not talking, but I'm talking, so yeah, So you feel that vibration right there. You feel that vibration. That's when you're when you're doing your app for or repeating a mantra. I am love, I am peace. I can handle any situation that comes to me. That's the vibration that's going through yourselves. And what happens in life and dis ease is we get the energy gets stuck like this. So I love the analogy of a river and in fall the leaves come down and there's like a little cluester there, or on top of the sewer, there's a little debris. And it's the same with energy. When you repeat a mantra, when you flow in yoga, when you meditate, you're freeing up that debris and the natural body, your natural self, your Buddha nature, it's nature. Sorry, the common peacefulness within you is there. So the trick is to quiet the mind. Here's another thing. Your mind won't repeat the good stuff. Your mind only repeat what's already happened, which is in your memory. So you have to do the positive affirmations. You have to say the mantras. You have to transport the goodness into your mind to feel it in your soul. But we're not taught this thing. Great fourth, No, No, you know, you know what's interesting and what comes to my

11:20 mind immediately is, you know, I've heard people talk about meditation or whether they're using NLP, you know, whatever it happens to be, you know, hypnosis, whatever, you know, getting rid of, getting rid of those traumas, those those subconscious, emotional and physical traumas which become emotional interpretations. And my question, and I just came to my mind as far as this question goes, and I want your take on this, do they really go away? Or is it as my friend was sharing with me, that it comes up periodically and as the sense that is coming up being able to do those channelos mantras, or to be able to do those affirmations through meditation or however that happens to be, puts it away so that it doesn't come up as often, or you find that it literally causes it to disappear.

12:22 What's been your experience? So in order to get into the mind is where you need the practice and the technique. What I'd like to say now where I'm at in my life is my mind is a dance floor, So can you dance back and forth as it comes and goes? This is where you want to be. But there needs to be technique, There needs to be some practice in order to get to that space where when they come, they flow through. The feelings come, they arise in both emotion and feelings pass away, breath comes into the body. Breath paths is a way, just like the waves of the ocean. What happens when we don't deal with the trauma, if we don't switch the energy of the bad things that have happened, well, not bad. I believe everything's nature, and I try not to say good and bad. What happens with the affirmations and the practice is less suffering, and we can respond to what arises from a more creative place instead of just reacting to things. How we're talked to, what culture shows us, what we learn from our parents, it's all quick reactivity. Well, and now the other thing that comes to my mind, And I've talked about this with other folks, and I don't know if you've even really looked at this, but we talk about neural pathways. And I know science has shown that literally, you know, our thoughts are based on the neural pathways

13:54 within our brain. So for those that you know, as we've as we and we all have have, as we've experienced those childhood traumas, whatever they may be, at least that's been our perception of what they are. And as we experience those, as we start to do those affirmations, as we start to through meditation or whatever that happens to be doing those we're able to literally change the neural pathways and literally put to the side those pathways that are constantly reminding us of those traumas or those limiting beliefs that you know, I'm not good or whatever that happens to be, and starts to create a neural pathway that is more reminding us that I am good, that I can accomplish these things. Have you ever looked into that as far as the neural pathways go, and being able to change neural pathways. Here's what I tell my students now when they come into my yoga class. I say this, every time you're here and you're practicing yoga, you're creating new pathways, new patterns, in the body, new ways to react, new ways to respond.

15:09 When we're in childhood, we don't have a choice. We copy our parents. It's learned behavior. So when we have yoga meditation, we can see that there's actually a space or we can take an extra breath, and it's in that moment that we can that we can change the patterns, that we make a new path for ourselves. Yes, go ahead, sorry, yeah, So there's nowhere to get to. We're already here. So there's no thoughts that will leave. I can't take my rape out of me. I can't take away the sexual assaults or the things in the childhood. They're still there, right, But you learn to dance with both, transform the energy inside, with the affirmations, with the process, and you can become like destiny really who you are, sharing love, yoga, all of these things are past to love. Yes. And you know what what fascinates me is that as we think about those things, as we think about the yoga, the you know, and again you know, meditation, the postures, the breathing techniques, and I think that's so important that as we breathe in you know, and some of the meditations that I do, they talk about breathe in that life and then breathe out those past situations that you want to eliminate.

16:41 And I think that's so important. You know, you talk in your book with the Deeper Days, you talk about daily messages, but you also talk about the fact that they're based or described and I can't pronounce the name of the suitors his name, what is that potently? Potentially? Okay, So he's developed these yoga secrets. But you talk about the first section is based on yama. Let's let's talk about that for just a minute. Because you talk about the fact that it creates self discipline in a chaotic mind. So can you share with that, share with the audience, just what are those five characteristics? Okay? Honesty, not taking what doesn't belong to you.

17:33 It's ethics is what it is. I know them in Sanskrit a staya, brahmacharia. But these are ethics of self regulation. This is the very first limb of what yoga is based on. There is no yoga without ethics. Well, and you know that's that simple. It's that simple. As as I was reading that, it was reminding me of a buddha and what he taught and that was. I think it was four or five things that The first thing he talks about is the non violence. You know, don't don't kill, He talks about, don't kill animals, don't kill people, you know, the honesty, the not stealing, and of course you talk about here that that's including time or attention, and then the wise use, the wise use of your sexual energy and not coveting aboute Yeah, and you know it's interesting, how do you take those five elements? So if I decide that, you know what, I really want to be able to develop those five characteristics in my life, how would I if I if I don't do yoga, but if I do meditation, how would I go about working on developing those five characteristics in my life so that they become just a natural

19:06 part of who I am? So one at a time, one breath at a time. When you meditate, it's holding attention for one moment at a time. So it's the same with the five precepts. A hymn suck is the first one. Non violence. You look at it, this is what deeper days is about. Deeper days adds meaning to your days. Why because you're looking there's a self inquiry paragraph something to think about every day, and there's a mantra or an affirmation at the bottom of each one, and that's what you work with throughout the day to bring attention back, to wear your heart a hymn suck. When I studied the precepts, here's what my Zen Buddhist teacher, Michael Stone said to me, how do you kill? You can't be non violent in this world if you don't understand how you kill?

20:07 How do you kill? And you sit with that for a day. How do you kill? And you notice the ways? You notice the ways you kill? You want to hear my two. My two that stick out, and I think I heard the book as about my two were for guilty pleasure. I would buy those cheapy little magazines like Life and Style, and they were like two ninety nine full of trash, have all of the actors and actresses on the front cover holding their babies. Like I would buy those. I was raising my kids, and I would always like slip through those as like a guilty pleasure. Now I'm studying my precepts with my teacher and saying, how do I kill? One of my favorite heroes is Princess Diana.

20:53 Maybe my two ninety nine. Buying that magazine makes those photographers go out to all those people, scares those moms because they get three hundred dollars a photo. Princess Diana maybe died from a similar tragic event. Right. That's one way that I found out that I was causing harm. You look at the things. The other one is eating meat. Simple. I just took that out because you know, I grew up meat and potatoes. I'm a Italian girl from the seventies. But you know, times have change. The slaughterhouse has gotten a little bit more aggressive and things like that. And I'm not preaching to do this or that. But what I'm saying is when my teacher asked me, how do I kill? There's reasons there. All of the answers are inside you. You just have to stop and see after yourself tomorrow, how do I kill? You'll have all the answers on how The answers is when you can work with it. Once you see it, that's when you can work with it. That's when change happen. But you know, and I find you know, how do you kill? And you talk about, you know, are we becoming vegans? Should we be vegans? Vegetarians, whatever that happens to be. You know, it's fascinating how you know, we talk about that and people going oh yeah, yeah, right, But when you start to talk about the nutritional benefits of healthy eating and not

22:23 eating so much meat, you know, and so on and so forth, it's just amazing how that happens. Now here's a question that I have for you, because maybe I've been doing it wrong. As I go through and as I'm doing my you know, affirmations, as I'm walking doing my meditation, I usually talk about three or four things, maybe five things in my mind, you know, So I'm saying, you know, I'm I'm more patient and more loving, I'm you know, I'm more this and that and that, and yet you're talking about one item, you know, nonviolence or honesty. Let's talk about honesty for a minute. You know, that is something that do you recommend to people because you've got one for every day?

23:07 Do you recommend to people that they only focus on one thing a day? Or is it okay to you know, if I'm going to go out tomorrow morning and walk, I'm going to my mantra is going to be you know what I am non violent I'm honest, I don't steal, I use you know, I'm I'm you know ethical, I'm you know all these things I don't covet I'm virtuous type of thing is does it get Does it get confusing when you're doing you know, three, four or five things at a time, or is it better just to focus on one item? I think that in order to transform and to switch things, you cannot Pollyanna rose colored glasses put a band aid on top. You can't just be I'm calm, but I believe, and all of my work has overturned every stone to see how much chaos I am. First, I think it's both in relation and knowing both. So how do you love? Comes so easy that we have the answers, But how do you hate? It's a little more difficult to see that side. But if you can, when you relax and when you're still in peaceful these things don't crop up at you and take your peace when you're trying to meditate. If that makes sense, I can use an example of

24:41 what I'm saying in the three books that I've written that I didn't even know before I wrote the book. So no matter how dark the stains poems and inspiration for the woman in pain has words for every dark thing that can happen to a woman, okay, anything, words for it. So that now I come into Deeper Days book and I realize that your days can't have meaning. Or you can try really really hard and just tell yourself I'm calm, I'm comm'm calm, I'm come. But it doesn't really work until you've done all of the organizing of the things where you're not calm, which is what the first book did. So now I've added meaning to every day. And this is an ancient practice from the stages, is a daily spiritual practice.

25:30 It's been around for decades. I'm not new. But then comes to book Stillness, and I could really see that there is stillness from overturning all of the stones, writing all of the pain, adding meaning to every day. Now with the spiritual practice, there is a deep stillness in which is just magic happens? Does that make sense? So instead of saying your calm, instead of saying your calm tomorrow on your walk, think about or make a list of all the things that make you so crazy? How am I crazy? Explore that, and then calm the other side okay. And you know, I've I've heard people talk, you know, in different ways. For instance, you know, when they talk about affirmations and we're talking about affirmation montors, whatever you want to say. You know, one one fellow that I worked with for a while would say, you know, affirmations, when you say I am calm, your mind doesn't believe it because you're not.

26:34 What he says, is he liked. He suggests that they say, I like the idea that I am calm or or whatever that happens to be. And and that that becomes a little bit of a challenge because how how do you verbalize uh, you know, because affirmations are something that you're going to verbalize mentally or or actually pokey and I love the idea that you you know, you you think about all the ways that I'm not calming, you know, always that I get frustrated, all the ways that you know, upset me. How do you verbalize that affirmation once you've experienced that, to then say, I, you know, I am calm or is it just then in the mind you're sensing that peace and calmness. How do you do that?

27:26 Okay? If anything, if anything is in your mind get rid of it. Here's how you know. If you have your list of all the things that make you crazy, when you're out on the walk and you say I am calm, you know that you're calm because you know that you're not doing any of the things that are on your list of crazy. So both are inside you. When you say I am calm on your walk, you'll know it because you already know you're crazy. It's a feeling you're going to experience inside. So when I'm on my walk, when I'm going to interrupt here, when I'm on my walk, or do it beforehand? Do I write down, Okay, I'm going to focus on calmness today, So do I write down everything that makes me crazy? Or when I start my walk and my meditation, do I then in my mind list those things that make me crazy and then seek to feel that calmness, And then verbally, do I say, I am calm. Here's the thing, Yeah, here's the thing. You are calm. Your nature is calm. You're not going to go to the store and buy calm ever in your life, and there's not another book or another podcast you need to do to feel calm. Your calm is inside you. In Zen, they say they have seventy two seeds within us. We are angry, happy, sad, emotional, all of them,

28:57 calm, peaceful, abundant. Those are all seeds that are in us. Now which seeds are you watering? So you'll write out? So this is a path, and yoga is a path of going through the self to the self. The only answer you're getting from any yoga, from any meditation is you. It's your beautiful heart. That's they call it the lotus, the jewel in the center of the lotus. You're it so well, and you know, you bring up an interesting point. So many people and in fact, you know, I don't know if you've ever done, you know, read any of Joe's probably, but you know what one thing that he said and I've done, you know, I've been to some of his workshops.

29:44 But one of the interesting things he talks about, and other people talk about this too, is that our lives are based on our childhood experiences. We create a perception of life based on those beliefs, and if we want to change our life, we need to change our beliefs. So here we are talking, you know, for instance, I get really frustrated here in Thailand because I don't speak Tie, and most Ties don't speak English, and if they do, it is really crazy. And even trying to use Google Translate it comes out really sometimes weird. And so one of my greatest frustrations here is I just, I guess so frustrated because the communication is so bad, you know, And I'm working on that. So so it's interesting that those type of things come about. But going back and going back to what we were talking about, our life is based on our perceptions. We have created our own life. We have created the movie of our life and has been talked about that's based on all of our past experiences. And in order to change our life and our perception of our life, we need to be able to change who we are and our beliefs. And that's really what you're talking about here, is you're taking those beliefs that we've learned in childhood and on and change those two who we really are. And I think you've hit

31:18 on such a key point. People don't, I think, realize the goodness of who we really are, you know, for those that are Christian, And this comes to my mind often the common in the Old Testament, I am that I am and here he is saying, I am goodness, I am love, I am all of these things, and we literally are the same. And so often I think people don't focus on who they are. They focus on who they've been taught that they are. Right, So if you took out I think it's said Guru who said this. Regardless, you'll understand this point. But if we took out the instruction booklet to our cell phones, and we've read the whole instruction booklet to our cell phones, what would we be doing on our cell phones right now? Maybe this podcast we'd be doing. But we don't do that, so we don't fully understand.

32:27 And it's the same with the mind. We don't exactly know how the mind works when we're growing up, So how do we know that we can change it? Right? Let me say this, the same mind that creates the horror story and the payoff, and if you use the word bad and good, I don't anymore, that's the same mind that makes the love story. You're it, there's only one begotten the sun you yes, yes, that's so true. And you know we talked about that first section of the messages that you talk about in your book, and there's eight of them, and would you mind just very shortly going through what are those eight different sections?

33:17 And just a very brief description, oh, the eight lembs of yoga. So potentially going back to who we spoke about wrote the yoga sutras, there's two hundred and ninety three if I'm right about that number. Only now have you guessed how many do you think are about the yoga postures? What we see on Yoga journal the postures? How many of the two ninety three do you think are about those poses? I would have no idea. Two to three, two to three. That's it. So yoga is about the yama. It's about the ethics. How how do you handle yourself? How do you kill? How do you steal? It's about being ethical, being able to regulate yourself, self regulation, and it's about observances the niamas, how you are on the outside. If there's a table flow of all the kitkats, are you going to take one? Right? You observe these things and you act in a certain way. This gives a balance so that when you're standing in asena, which is another limb of yoga, you can stand on equal footing. It gives balance. Another one is the meditation practice and being able to concentrate. And here's where the book Deeper Days helps develop that.

34:43 Once you have that, you can concentrate on one thought, perhaps a day, or one breath at a time, then you can learn meditation. Once you have meditation, you can experience piece and you can experience stillness, which is some Addi is the top limb. So you might think that they all go linear, But what I love about Michael Stone, my teacher, is that he puts them all in a cuckle and we kind of flow through all of them, but they're all together as one thing. There's breathing practices, asana, the yama's, niyama's darana, guyana, samadi. It seems Sanskrit.

35:29 But so here's the point of all of it. I made it very simple in the book because it can get confusing, and your mind will hang out wherever it's confusing. The left side of your brain loves to repeat. This is why mantra has to happen. Whatever you focus on expands and it's in the left side of the brain. Yoga, practice, postures, art, poetry, music is all the right side. So it doesn't stay long. It flows in and flows out. This is why you have to use mantra and affirmation. You have to keep putting it in, not because you're a terrible human beings, but because this is the way that your mind works. This is why we have a daily practice. This is why it's so important tough I find for people to develop different habits. And you know, as we as we've learned, you know, for some people that's taking thirty days, for some people, sixty, for some ninety, some longer than that to change habits. And what we're really talking about here is an individual deciding number one, that they really want to change their life, experience that movie of their life, and then the next step is to find ways in which to do that. And you know, I love for you to talk about this Deeper Days book and where people can find it. But then also

37:04 being able to develop I know, for me, it literally took what probably thirty forty five days for me to get to the point where I meditate every day, and you know, for a while I didn't, And it's taken a while to kind of work all that out and how I can do it and so on and so forth. But for people who are really wanting to change their lives. It means that there needs to be a change of those habits. And that's what you're really talking about, isn't it is being able to change habits in a way. How do you help people to what would you say would be the main habits that they need to develop for them to start to experience what you talk about in your books. I think you have to have a spiritual practice, whatever that means to you. So if it's art, do more art, music, do more music. You have to have more time on that side of things than in the chaos, more of the calm parts than the chaos. So by the time I was eighteen, I have so many things happened to me. And I saw Oprah Winfrey show.

38:21 She would have one person on that was raped or one person that was beaten or something, and I'm like, hey, wait a minute here, I've had all of this by the time I'm seventeen, right, So that was like a trigger for me that some things were extraordinary and then to work with it. If you're going to change things, one you need to know that you can. And this is what I want to tell people, and this is my message. You have all you need inside you right now. To do it, and there has to be some kind of practice only because your mind is a bit of a trickster to get in. So you need a yoga class so that you can relax to quiet the mind, or you need to meditate so that there's a way into your calm and peaceful science.

39:08 Also, if people are going to make a change, we'll bring it back to what we said before. Maybe write the things that you don't like right now out Why are you changing? There needs to be a strong why to change? Who would you be? If? So some people when they were just for example, I know it's a tough subject for a lot of people, but if you were raped before, like in the seventies, you were just kind of like a victim, or there's a lot of victim you didn't really know what to do. There wasn't a pathway out right, So if you're going to change, maybe you pack up all the victimhood and put it in a bag and then you start to move on. And it's not really the best example, but I think energetically you get my point. You can't just change and then fluff off, right. There has to be why am i changing? Who am I destined to be? Who will I be if I'm not carrying this around anymore, If I can be this person that I feel in my heart, what do I have to set aside for that?

40:15 Does that make sense? That's a wonderful message. And and here's here's here's the question that I have. You know, I think there are a lot of people that really approach this and do that self quote self help that you know, that's kind of a common phrase, self help. But how many times have you found that, you know, you talk about your guide, the person that you worked with. How many times do you find that most people need some type of guide, someone you know, whether you call it a coach or you know, whomever, beautiful really to really help you to move in that direction and be there to catch you when you start to fall back a little bit. That's a beautiful question. That's a beautiful question.

41:05 And that's the thing with online. You won't find me teach yoga online, right, I'll teach you in person. Why because you need a teacher to point out when you're stuck. I like to say I'm like an ener gps, like thank goodness for all of the things that have happened to me. Because when anybody walks through my yoga studio doors. I can meet them exactly where they're at. And I love that about me and I love that I can reflect the love back in them. No, I got lost off what you said. Sorry, Okay, So let's talk about you. Do you coach people? Do you do you help individuals outside of yoga class? I can't come to your yoga class. But that's why I wrote the books.

41:53 Do you y Yeah? So do you actually personally help people and guide them on a regular basis as they're moving forward in their path to achieve that sense of calm, that freedom, that piece that joy that we all should be experiencing. So because the pandemic happened, they closed my studio doors. And this is the reason that I wrote the books. I found writing the books as a way to touch people, and also what I want people to know and how we talked about the hero's journey at first is this. When I was in the seventies growing up in a small town on Lake Erie, I thought that I had to go to Tibet to find peace. So I did so. I worked hard from eleven and I had all these jobs and saved every penny because in Canada, We still had pennies back then. Now we don't. I saved every penny to so that I could go and find peace out in the world, and I climbed the mountaintops of Brazil. I lived in New yor Or City, Italy. I've been everywhere. But you know what's happened is the consciousness has lifted. Our consciousness has raised so much that I want all of your viewers to know that they don't have to leave their house anymore. We have the Internet, We have the consciousness to know that we don't have to suffer as much anymore, and that doing these practices,

43:27 reading the books that I've written, I have free videos on YouTube. It all, it all helps. It all pokes through the veil that you're not enough, but you are and you can handle hard things. You said it's hard to change habits. That's okay. You can handle hard things. You can handle it. Where do people find your books? Amazon is number one. Amazon will get it there by nine am, no problem. Barnes and Nobles. I love Chapters Indigo if you're in Canada. So I think there's thirty nine different thirty nine thousand different distributors of most of the books except the journal is different, so they're all on Amazon. Ganga Moon Yoga is my yoga studio. You can google me online, you can send me messages.

44:21 If I can help people, I will help people. This isn't like we're all connected here, We're all part of it, okay. And so again the website where people can find you in some of this information, Ganga Moon Yoga Square site. So Ganga is a river in India. Gonga Moon Yoga on Instagram at Andrea L. Whalen Instagram at Ganga Moon Yoga LinkedIn Andrea Linn Whalen YouTube Andrea L. Whalen. It's o there, all right, and it's up there. It's up there. It's been wonderful. Thank you so much. What a difference you're making for people. And you know, it's such a struggle sometimes because you never know, you don't always get that feedback, you know, and sometimes you do. I know, I've got one person that is feeding back to me. You know, they've listened to a show, they've gotten and bought a book, they've done this type of thing.

45:28 But it's not very often that you get that personal feedback of the fact that you have touched someone's life, that you've lifted them in a way that otherwise they would have never been lifted up. So congratulations to you. Thank you so much for being on the show. And folks, I hope you've enjoyed this, and please go to our website and really look at some of these things, find some of those books. If you find that these are areas that could be a value to you. Look forward to having you join us again soon. This is doctor doug Ain't have a wonderful week and thank you so much. Thank you, not mistake you