Feb. 10, 2026

Awakening Inner Peace: Alchemy, Ego & the Meaning of Life

Awakening Inner Peace: Alchemy, Ego & the Meaning of Life
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Dr. Doug talks with spiritual teacher Ashmita about her awakening, overcoming stress, and finding inner peace through self-awareness and spiritual alchemy. They explore ego, purpose, religion, and the balance between expansion and stillness. A transformative conversation on detachment, fulfillment, and the divine light within. Https://ashmitaarora.com

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who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.

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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Ashmida welcome to the show. Thank you. Hey, it's great

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to have you. Great to have you on. So what

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I'd love for you to do is kind of share

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the audience your background, what you know, what's your journey,

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and what brought you to this point in your life

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where you're doing what you're doing.

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Beautiful. Yeah, So I had a spiritual awakening as a

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lot of people are going through right now. Back in

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twenty nineteen, and since then, my life has changed dramatically.

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I used to be in a very high stress type

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of lifestyle, functioning like that, functioning as a mom in

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my career and throughout my awakening. It it really showed

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me how to have inner peace and how to really

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root myself and become firm in who I was. And

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so now I'm a spiritual teacher. I teach the lessons

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that I've lived through and gone through, and aside from

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just my teachings, I also help individuals that are in

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transitions in their life, be it it's a divorce, or

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health health issues or just mental instability breakdowns navigate that

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with more of a spiritual esoteric feel to it.

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Okay, and what's your background as far as work? What

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did are? Do you still work another job or no?

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No? So I was in real estate and I also

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had a scone business, So I was making scones and

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selling them and doing that wholesale. And after the awakening,

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I have transitioned out and I have Evan Eila, which

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is a holistic brand and it's international. We sell things

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such as Paula Santo and Sage and birch charts, and

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everything's very eco friendly and it's all from natural resources,

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so we're very careful about our sourcing. But I also

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am doing my spiritual side of the work, the teachings

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and the consultations and the one on ones as well.

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Okay, so one of the things. I was talking to

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my daughter the other and she was laughing because we

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were talking about having conversations, and she says, Dad, she says,

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you know what, I would get in so much trouble

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with one of my friends because every time I was talking,

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you know, if I said something and I thought may

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not be understood, I'd define it. And then said my

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friend got so upset because she felt like I was

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believing she wasn't smart enough to understand. But she said,

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but I got that from you, and she did because

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I had learned long years ago in communication, definition really

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helps to understand. So I'd like you to define spirituality.

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Yeah. Actually, a lot of people ask are you spiritual?

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And this is a question that's being commonly asked to

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a lot of people out there right now. Are you spiritual?

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How spiritual are you? We're all spirit and so it's

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not Spirituality is not something that you choose to be.

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It's something that we just are by nature. It's just

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a matter of how much we practice and tune ourselves

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into our spirituality. Spirituality to me is really when you

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allow your intuition to come through into your everyday life.

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And so we have intellect from the outside world in

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a more grounded sense, and I find that being spiritual

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is just connecting with your spirit, connecting with your intuition,

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allowing that to flow through you.

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And how much is there a religious aspect of that,

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as far as believing in the God or believing that

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we truly are that spirit within us, which we have

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the light within us. How much of that is within

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your definition?

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Oh? Man, that's a deep question because that yeah, no,

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that's great, it's great, you know what. That's It's one

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of those questions where there's not one definitive answer. There's

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so much to it because religion, at the base of

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all religion, it's that there's something bigger than us. However,

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a lot of the religions have, in my opinion, contorted

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it to make it seem as it's separate then, and

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it's not. It's we're in my opinion, it's not we're

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interconnected and it's all one. It's just the way that

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it's been presented. So the presentation the aspect of religion

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is believe in a higher power, be a good person,

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be light. Right, essentially, it's be light. And when it

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comes down to religion, it becomes control more of a

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controlled type of an atmosphere. And that's also why a

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lot of people are going through that dismantling of self

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and religion and coming out of their practices because there's

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certain things that they don't agree with. There's certain things

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in religion that make them feel contracted, and they're going

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towards more of a inner dialogue which is making them

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feel expanded. So religion, I think it plays its role

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in terms of allowing individuals to get to a certain

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place where they can then seek more. And religion and

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spirituality can go hand in hand. It's just how much

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of a man made version of religion have that have

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we been fed? In a sense?

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Well, And you know, it's interesting as I see, you know,

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I have I'm on TikTok with my social media, and

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every once in a while when I go on there,

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I see these anti religious things and what strikes me

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and and this may have some pertinence to what we're

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going to talk about. I don't know. But what strikes

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me is that so often when people leave their quote religion,

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and I don't disagree with what you were saying, by

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the way, but when they leave, they leave that spiritual

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connection also, and it's fascinating, fascinating to me. For instance,

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you know, I happen to have a very deep and

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devout belief in Christ. What I call myself a Christian, no,

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because I don't like that label, but I have a

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belief in Christ. But what I believe is, and you

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hit on it with some of the words you said,

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is when we can and become one, light is within us.

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But why do you think it is that people have

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to be an either or, Because what I see is

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people go from religious or some type of belief and

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for whatever reason valid that they decide to leave. Must

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they leave out? Why do you think that is? And

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how do you help those people to get back into

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understanding that you know, you can leave the organization, but

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you don't have to leave that.

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That there's somebody that's growing up in a very controlled

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and strict environment where they're not allowed to do anything

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actually actually to even put it into more of a perspective.

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Some of the Amish community, they have a lot of

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rules and restrictions for the youth, and they have I

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can't recall what the ceremony is, but it's when they

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go out and they get to see how the English

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are living. And so they go out and they basically

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decide if they want to stay in their Amish community

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or they want to convert and leave. And when they

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do go out, when people from that strict atmosphere go out,

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they go wild. It's almost like there's no barriers. And

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because you've been so constricted and so tight, when you

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want to blow off that theme, there's no boundaries. So

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where if you're say that you're in a medium control

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type of environment and you're going out for the evening,

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you might have a couple of drinks or whatever and

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have you know, a nice time. When somebody hasn't had

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that and they don't know the boundaries, they don't know that,

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they don't understand the effects of it on them. They

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may have one too many plus say a drug. Plus

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they're not aware of their surroundings, so they might get

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caught up in something and it gets out of control

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really fast. Or it just it works as polar opposites,

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so either really constricted and when they don't know that,

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but the sensible thing is to be able to meet

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in the middle, know how to have a good time,

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but still have that head on your shoulders. So just

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like when they leave religion, they try to leave all

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aspects of religion, they try to leave the controlled aspects

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of it, but also the higher power that they're being

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taught within it. Because they may not know that there's

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a middle ground. They might think it's either this and

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if I'm not a good whatever the religion is, whatever

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they're practicing, then then I'm nothing related to it, okay,

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and you know what I mean. So it's kind of

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and that happens with when kids are going through that

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rebellious stage as well. Sometimes it goes a little bit

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too far if they're trying to literally rebel from something,

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and so sometimes it just takes a little bit of

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time to get their footing back, and then they might

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find that when they go and there is no structure

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and it's very different from what they're used to, that

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they're uncomfortable there, just as they were uncomfortable when it

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was tight. So then they just work their way back

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and adjust accordingly.

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So how do you have you You know you talked

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about your spiritual awakening. Are you okay to share what

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that was and how that literally changed your direction? Oh?

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Yeah, I was in I had this cycle that would

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keep repeating, which was I would really get it hard,

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but I would keep getting sick and it would not

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make sense. I'd go to the doctor, I'd go to

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the hospital. They couldn't really find out what's going on

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with me. It was as if my body was turning

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on itself, but that would just cause me more stress,

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and then that would make it worse, and it got

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to the point of paralysis and having these hemoplegic migraines

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and having really bad beuts of my stomach would bloat

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up live literally as if I were for ultrasounds and

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all these things. They just couldn't figure it out because

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it would go away. It would come and go and

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come and go. And I was in that hustle type

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of lifestyle, trying to do be a mom, do the

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career thing, be a wife, and just have everything very perfect.

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And as you know, there is no perfection, or we're

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chasing something that we're never going to reach. Because what

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we associate with perfection is not in the realm of

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actual reality. And so for me, it was just a

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breakdown of high stress medical issues, and everything just kind

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of came to a halt where I had to turn

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inwards and just start meditating. And as I started meditating,

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I started realizing that I was having this energy kind

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of come through my spine and go up my back.

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And at first it was a little bit scary because

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I would have these moments of deep vibration in my

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body and I didn't know what it was. And here

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I am thinking, all, great, it's another medical issue. And

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so I would say to my husband, do you feel me?

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Do you feel me shaking? I think I'm shaking and

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he couldn't. And slowly, and day by day it was

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going a little higher, a little higher. And one day

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I was meditating and I heard a pop and it

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was like I could hear it and I can feel

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it at the same time. It's right at the top

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of my head, like right on the ground. And when

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that happened, this gateway, this veil lifted, and I would

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get downloads and I'd be able to hear my guides,

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and I'd have channels coming through and all this information,

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which then made me think I was going completely insane,

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because all of a sudden for me, everything opened at once.

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It wasn't a gradual type of thing. Everything just went boom,

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opened up. And now I'm hearing things and knowing things

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and not knowing how I know things and feeling things.

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And by the way, I was postpartum, so I did

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think this was postpartum psychosis.

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You know.

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I said to my house and I think I'm going insane.

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And the people that were coming through and things I had,

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people that had passed away that were coming through, and

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I thought, I'm going crazy, And my husband goes, if

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you were going crazy, you would not have been able

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to tell me where my grandfather that I've never met

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had kept his umbrella, the type of umbrella, and the

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fact that he kept it in his kitchen behind the door,

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lamp that he had, or where I used to put

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my backpack in his kitchen, And they were just they

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were things that you don't know if you're just thinking

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or guessing, and so you don't know the accuracy until

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you bring it out of your mouth and actually tell

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people and they can confirm it for you. So that

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was a little bit terrifying because I didn't know if

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it was like a judgment that I was I judging

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somebody by having this this feeling or this thought or

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this knowing about them. But when I would get past

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that and introduce to them what was coming through for me,

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then they were able to say yay or nay or

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you know, whatever have you and and it was accurate

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and that was that was telling. But it takes them

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getting used to.

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Well and yeah, that is wild. I've never experienced that.

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I know other people who have. And you know, what

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comes to my mind is so interesting that you know

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people well yeah, pooh pooh, you know, not not believe

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that type of thing. But for me, and being very

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much theologically focused, I've recognized that there is this consciousness.

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is able to tap into that, there is no time.

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There is no time, past, present, future is all there.

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So to be able to tap into that is just

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to me amazing that you could tap into that and

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be aware of those instances before and so on and

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so forth. So when you start to work with people,

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how how do you explain to them? Because you know,

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it's one thing to be experiencing this, it's another thing

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to kind of have an understanding of what's life really

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all about? What is the meaning of life? Why are

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we here? What are we here to learn? And so

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as you talk to people, what do you feel like

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the meaning of life really is?

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Oh? Yeah, the meaning of life is beautiful, is that

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life is absolutely meaningless. It is absolutely meaningless. We get

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to assign the meaning behind our lives, We really get

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to assign it. And so another thing that kind of

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goes hand in hand with that is purpose, because they're

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looking for the purpose, and a lot of people go

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on crazy adventures and leave certain things and everyone they

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go on this tailspin trying to find what their purpose is.

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And our purpose for all of us, in my opinion,

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is the same. It's that we're all here to expand,

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just to expand and live a life of expansion and inspiration.

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And so what does that mean? It means simply to

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not live a life out of fear, guilt, or obligation.

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You want to live your life doing things and not

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in an unrealistic way where say, for instance, you say

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I go to work because I have to go to work,

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because I have my children that I have to take

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care of. Well, that's a very expansive feeling. If you've

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curated this family that you love in door and so

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you get fulfillment and abundance from taking care of them.

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It's the way that we also perceive our lives on

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a day to day basis.

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Well, and I love what you're talking about. You know,

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you use a couple of words. You use perfection, you

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use expand, and you know, to me, I think that

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what has happened with this common pot of perfection? I

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think it's come religiously. I really do, because you have

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you know, be there for perfect and all that kind

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of stuff. But you get to the meaning of what

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was actually said. It wasn't perfection, it was complete, It

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was expansion. And so I think you hit it right

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on the head that we're here to become complete, to

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expand our spirit within us because we have this physical

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body that has all sorts of things. You know, you

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talk about people wanting this, people wanting that. Talk about ego.

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What does the ego do to us? And how do

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we how do we overcome the ego aspects that are

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not beneficial to us so that we can truly expand

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internally and really become who we ought to become or

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can become.

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Yeah, ego. Ego is not our foe, and it is

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so misunderstood. When I had my awakening, the way that

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I actually had channeled ego is that it is anything

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that's absorbed from outside of us through our senses, the

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things that we've seen, things that for instance, your family,

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that's something that's so close to us, right our kids

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are our spouse or are our parents, So that is

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also ego. It's something that we have learned from outside

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of us that this is what family looks like, this

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is what family is supposed to mean to us. So

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even that can be ego just as much as a car,

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or just as much as something monetary that we think

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ego coincides with. So ego is all those things that

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can make your human experience very abundant for you. And

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so it's not a bad thing if you know where

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it's coming from. It's not a bad thing if you

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can play with it. See, it comes down to the

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understanding of self. A lot of things. We're going to

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go more into this in the coming years, but it's

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going to go into really understanding who we are, what

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we are, and why we are because we're here as

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like to expand. We're not here as a wife or

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a husband, or a business associate or anything like that.

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We're here to expand as an individual. And what that

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means is up to us to assign. But when we

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work with the ego, we get caught up thinking that

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the ego is us. The person driving the nice car

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is us, the person without the car is us.

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Well, and you know, it's fascinating. A couple of weeks ago,

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I interview a fellow Africa and he's now in the

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United States and has become educating and so forth. But

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he comes from an extremely poor village and one of

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his goals now is to be able to help those folks.

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But as we were talking, it was interesting how he

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brought up this point. He says, you know, here in

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the US, and this goes to ego. Here in the US,

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you know, we have to have everything. I mean, if

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if you don't have X amount of dollars coming in,

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you're poor and so forth. And we were kind of

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joking about it, but being real too because I'm in Thailand, okay,

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and here people. If they're earning, if they're earning four, three, four,

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five hundred dollars a month, they're living comfortably. For him,

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he says, the average person there in his village was

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one hundred dollars a month. Okay, he said, but he

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brought up this point, he says, but the amazing thing

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is that they're happy. They're happy. Now we look at

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the United States and oh, my goodness, if you're not

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earning X amount of dollars, you're not happy. If you

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don't have the nice car, If you don't have the

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nice house, you don't have this. If you don't have that,

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you're not happy. How do you help people to overcome

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this concept of I need this to be happy?

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Oh, Matt, you know what this is. This has been

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less of an uptick actually than the opposite, because more

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of the people coming through right now have achieved that

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and they're not happy.

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Well well that's that's my point. Yeah, they have it

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and they're not happy, or they don't have it and

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they're not happy. Either way.

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Yeah, either way. I think that it ultimately comes down

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to knowing yourself. I say that there's two different things

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that we don't realize. There's abundance, and there's fulfillment, And

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so fulfillment is when we are in touch knowing that

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we are like when I say light, I mean we

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are whole. We are already whole. So if you want

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that abundance in your life, you can only want what

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you already have felt. You won't crave something to eat

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if you've never eaten it before or tasted that type

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of a flavor, you can't crave it. You wouldn't know

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to crave it. So if there's a feeling that you

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want to aspire to, then that means you already have

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that within you. You felt that abundance. It's internal. The

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things on the outside are just these icons. And when

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you start to live in the vibration of what you

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already want, which you want to feel, you just stay

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in that internal vibration, then you're going to see things

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changing on the outside of you as well. But if

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you're constantly in that lack mentality, you're constantly in that

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I need these things, it's not the thing. The things

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are never going to be enough. You can get all

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the things, they're just not going to be enough. And

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so you challenge them, you tell them, hey, imagine yourself.

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You typically, if something like that, I'd want to bring

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them into a deep meditative state to have them go

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in and feel what it would mean to have those

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things and then ask them what it would feel like

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when it gets taken away from them. Okay, so is

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it really yours if it can be taken away? Because

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if you own it, if that is truly a part

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of your soul, it cannot be taken away, It cannot

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be broken. These things are part of the human experience

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to have to enjoy, but to understand that it shouldn't

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have that attachment that we've been taught to give it,

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that that amount of weight in our life life, right,

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it shouldn't. It shouldn't have that type of force. So

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when they're seeing more and more that there's individuals coming

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out that have reached the sense of peace, they're going

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to start to ultimately look inside in themselves. And with

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us changing from the Piician era to the Aquarian era,

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before it was all about outside obtainment and obtaining scholarships

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or different degrees and different jobs and all these different things.

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It was all about obtainment, and now it's all going within.

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The Aquarian era is very much more in the air

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and in intuition, and so people are going more and

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they're trying to leave these religions and find what really

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resonates with them on a personal soul level. So we're

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seeing it kind of shift already and it's going.

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To continue to do.

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So.

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Yeahah, and So one of the one of the things

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that I'm fascinated about is, I know you have some

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interesting stories. And you know, as we talk about people's

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life experiences, about the energy that they experienced and so forth,

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one of the things that you know you talk about,

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and one of the stories that I want you to

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share with us is how those imprints from childhood, those

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things that happen that are oftentimes so totally subconscious that

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we don't even realize, and yet our lives are mere

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layer reflection of those limiting leaves that then create our behavior.

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And so I know you have one story where you

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talked about you were working with someone who was had

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patterns of overindulgence. Could you share with the audience that

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story and how you helped them and how they overcame that,

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because I think we all experience that in one way

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or another.

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Yeah. Yeah, First, I'd like to start by just also

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letting the audience know that when we do go through

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different challenges in our life, whether it be childhood or

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in adulthood, these things are agreed upon at a soul

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level to help us further along our expansion in this

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human experience. So sometimes it's very challenging, sometimes it's not

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as challenging. The imprints are just meant to give us

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that contraction so that we can expand, because you can't

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have one without the other for this experiment to work.

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There's actually a couple that I've had, so there was

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one where it was imprinted on them where they basically

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played out their parents' dynamic, but now in a form

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of addiction. And so the same dynamics that they had

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felt once with their parents is how they were viewing

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their addiction, and they didn't know that they had turned

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into that same type of cycle that they were going through.

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But the over indulgence is it's something that we don't

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realize that we think now that we're adults, that we

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can now that we have the resources to go out

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and get what we need to get and to enjoy

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the things when we want to enjoy the things that

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they're still a backstory to why we want to. One

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of the stories I can share is that there is

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an individual who worked really, really hard and whenever they did,

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they didn't get paid by their parents. What they did

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get was a lot of fast food. That was their

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reward for the work that they were doing at the

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family's establishment. It was the fast food. And so coming

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into their adulthood, they would just overindulge and overindulge in

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bad health habits, thinking that that's what abundance, that's what success,

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that's what comfort looked like to them, and they didn't

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realize that it was because before they would get nothing

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but that, and they bought that imprint with them into

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their adulthood as well, to a state where they weren't happy.

466
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.960
They were over indulging in quite a bit of different things,

467
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.480
which was hurting their health and making them unhappy in

468
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.599
different ways, making them feel less than which was all

469
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.759
the things that they felt when they were younger because

470
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.359
they were doing everything and it felt forced on them.

471
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.000
They had so much responsibility, they didn't feel they had

472
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.440
a lack of confidence because their life was so curated

473
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.000
by a parent figure that they felt like they had

474
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.920
had no sense of self. So their little bit of

475
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.200
joy came from this bad habit that was very easy

476
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.240
for the parents to kind of here you go things

477
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.759
for your help. But now in their adulthood, they still

478
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:14.880
didn't have that sense of self. They still thought that

479
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.920
these things from the outside and indulging in that would

480
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.799
bring them a sense of self. But in doing that,

481
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:24.519
and in doing that and other things as well, purchasing things, shopping,

482
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.599
they were consuming and consuming to where they started to

483
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.160
realize they were getting in debt, their body was getting

484
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.640
out of control. All these things were outside of their

485
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.559
control because now they thought that they were in control

486
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.960
of their life. Finally, it was really interesting and just

487
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.920
bringing it back down and showing them that the reason

488
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.720
that you are purchasing, the reason that you are eating,

489
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:50.759
the reason that you are taking all these things from

490
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.880
outside of you and putting it internally is because of

491
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.400
that lack of control. And it kind of goes to

492
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.880
what we were speaking about with the religion as well. Right,

493
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:00.839
Sometimes you go from here all the way to hear

494
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.599
when you feel like you have that leeway to play

495
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:05.799
with because you don't know that there can be a

496
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:07.319
very healthy middle ground.

497
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.880
So every you know, we all experience that cemetery I

498
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.200
don't know that anyone that's human has not experienced I'm

499
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.119
not good enough or whatever that happens to be. And

500
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.680
I think that insight that you had there is amazing.

501
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.480
So how do you help them to re purpose that

502
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:29.720
experience or reposition that experience so that it goes away

503
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.599
and they can use it, for instance, with growth and

504
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:39.000
perhaps even recognizing that having experienced that, I can help

505
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.680
other people who have experienced the same thing once they

506
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.599
overcome it. But how do you help people to reprogram

507
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.319
that so that no longer do they look at it

508
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:48.920
this way, but they can look at it in a

509
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:49.880
more positive way.

510
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.440
Yeah, So it's all alchemy. So it's really you know,

511
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.680
when we even talk about healing and things like that,

512
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.279
they're not broken, there's nothing to heal. It's really it's

513
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.680
really just taking that situation and showing them the opposite

514
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.200
side and the alchemy between it. I could tell you

515
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.400
for this individual, they were such a great resource for

516
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:17.839
bridging the gap for other people. Their internal compass, their

517
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.359
gift this world is bridging a gap. So they had

518
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.559
to bridge that gap between what they were truly feeling

519
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:31.799
in lack of and what they were over over consuming

520
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:35.960
and bridge the gap between where would they find that

521
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:39.720
middle ground of being able to enjoy life knowing that

522
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.400
they're enough. And so one of the things is on

523
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.039
a soul level, I'm able to tap in and see

524
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.279
it almost shows to me in a pattern like state,

525
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.680
so I can see what their soul is here to

526
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.599
teach them. So if I'm sitting with them, I could

527
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.519
say right away, your soul's here to teach you to

528
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.440
take this experience or take this feeling and alcoel to

529
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.119
this feeling, and that's what you're meant to share with

530
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:06.680
the world. But to just say that to somebody without

531
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.759
that middle portion of how to get from A to

532
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.200
B gets very very confusing. So I typically take them

533
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.079
through the feeling what did you feel at this moment?

534
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.519
Why did you feel it? Okay, why do you think

535
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.920
you felt that? And we go all the way down

536
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:27.799
to the three foundations fear, guilt, and obligation and contraction.

537
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:32.279
When they feel contraction, it always breaks down into those three,

538
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.440
either one or all three. So we find what the

539
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.920
root is and we alchemize it.

540
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.720
We simply define alchemy. You keep using the word alchemy.

541
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:43.680
I had no clue what you're talking about.

542
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.640
Oh, Okay, So alchemy to turn one thing into another. Okay,

543
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.559
So to turn contraction into expansion, got it? Yeah, so

544
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.759
for this individual, and it's good to talk about this

545
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.920
one so the audience can follow along with journey as well.

546
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.240
When they were taking it from a state of feeling

547
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.359
very contracted, when they had that job that they had

548
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.039
to go to, regardless of what they wanted to do

549
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.759
or how old they were, they had to work in

550
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.680
that family establishment. They felt contracted all the time. They

551
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.440
had that little bit of enjoyment when it was given

552
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.359
to them, But once they got out of that atmosphere

553
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.720
and that job, then they started doing it to themselves.

554
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.960
They now had the abundance to be able to obtain

555
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.000
those things, but when they obtained it, they still put

556
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.720
themselves in almost like a jail like lock because they

557
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:39.279
felt like, I need these things. I need to continuously

558
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.640
get these things to feel free. But that in itself

559
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.440
is a lock, you know, do you see what I mean?

560
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.480
They put themselves in that lock to say, what is

561
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.319
real freedom, the real freedom, the real alchemy in that

562
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.480
situation is to understand that you are free at a

563
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.960
soul level, at a very deep level, you are free.

564
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.720
You don't need any of those things. The fact that

565
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.119
you thought that you needed those things is because it

566
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.319
was embedded to you to get to this very moment

567
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.880
that you can free yourself from those chains. Okay, yeah,

568
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.440
you thought that at one point that's what you need

569
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.279
to be free. But now when you get those things,

570
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.480
you realize that you've made your own imprisonment. Now let's

571
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.839
release all of those chains and now you're free. So

572
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.480
now when you indulge, you know.

573
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:31.119
Yeah, you've talked about meditation, you know, and you talk

574
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.920
about how you've been able to siphully understand that. What

575
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.519
about all of these people that need or choose to

576
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.440
do it on their own? And first of all, this

577
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:46.000
pattern recognition and how does that relate to you knows,

578
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.039
there's more and more talk about, you know, patterns and

579
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:55.119
energy and vibration and all of that type of thing.

580
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.640
How do you help people or how do you advise

581
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:04.039
people using for instance, and you talked about meditation. How

582
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:08.760
important is meditation And how do they recognize these patterns

583
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.960
that are shaping their lives and recognizing that they're not

584
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.360
good patterns? And then what process can they go through

585
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.880
in order to change that if they're not able to

586
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.920
or they choose not to, and by the way, I

587
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:26.519
think they should. But if they don't choose initially to

588
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:27.599
get some help.

589
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:33.719
Yeah, it's a very deep, deep, transformative type of process

590
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.360
that I bring them through. And so it's not in

591
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.679
a state where if somebody's just slightly unhappy with their

592
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.800
life or or something's bothering them, that I wouldn't consider

593
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.800
them ready for that level of transformation. It's really out

594
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.079
of it's really for individuals that I work with when

595
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.519
they're at a breaking point, when they've really hit rock bottom,

596
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.920
and that alchemy time as I spoke about, that transformation

597
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:00.119
from one to another can really be held with the

598
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.119
right amount of care and need, because it's kind of

599
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:08.199
like somebody that wants to lose weight, but it's not

600
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.840
really a major problem. They don't have as much drive

601
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:15.159
and it doesn't hurt as bad, you know, to really

602
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.360
make a big, big change in their life. So they

603
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.840
might do a little things and that might help them along,

604
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:26.679
but that real transformation type of a program that I run,

605
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.880
it wouldn't be suited for that individual. So one of

606
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.840
the things is you cannot have the transformation without clarity.

607
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.920
So it always has to start with the clarity, and

608
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:41.280
the clarity is based around understanding what we are and

609
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.000
that we are all one, we are from source, and

610
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.280
how that works, how that really really works at a

611
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.719
soul level, how we're not separate then, how we are

612
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.639
all one, How everything that we are experiencing is outside

613
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.719
of ourselves. And this is not it's not a simple thing.

614
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.199
It's not in a couple sessions and they automatically get

615
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.880
it unless they come in with that knowing already. It

616
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:10.119
takes reprogramming, reprogramming and deprogramming and deconstruction of belief systems

617
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:12.760
because one of the biggest things is we've got to

618
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.360
get into why you believe what you believe? Really, why

619
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.639
do you believe it? What at the core of your

620
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.199
belief system? Where do you think you inherited it? Was

621
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.119
it through religion, was it through family? Was it through

622
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.480
the education system? Where was it from? And does it

623
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.840
really make sense for you right now? And if you

624
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.519
could choose what your beliefs are, what would they be?

625
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:41.519
So really letting them take the reins on reprogramming themselves,

626
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.239
because if somebody is trying to transform but they're still

627
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.880
so attached to the outside societal pressures and what society

628
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.239
deems as correct and incorrect. In all of these things,

629
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.360
they're still there's still this very deep attachment.

630
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.440
Yeah, the egle is right there.

631
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.079
Yeah, Well they have to understand what the egos part is,

632
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:08.360
because the ego is here to allow us to play

633
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.840
as a human, to play. Because if we imagine it, say,

634
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.039
as a video game, and we have all these fancy

635
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:18.719
shiny things everywhere and different types of relationships and all

636
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.159
these kind of things in that video game, if we

637
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.360
weren't meant to have it and enjoy it, it wouldn't

638
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.239
be in the video game. We're meant to have it

639
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.119
and enjoy it. But it's not why we are. It's

640
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.360
just things that we can enjoy while we're here.

641
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:36.320
Yeah, And there's the key part of it is understanding

642
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.960
that it has nothing to do with you know, if

643
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.719
I have this, then I am this. Rather if I'm

644
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.000
able to enjoy this, this is just a blessing and

645
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.519
I can be grateful for that. How much meditation do

646
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.199
you use? And I think that's I think it's interesting

647
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.679
because I think now people are starting to really understand

648
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:00.159
that meditation has some great value in their lives, and

649
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.000
how much meditation is you're working with people, do you

650
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.960
use for them to be able to tap into that

651
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.039
inner light and inner self?

652
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.280
You know, half the time they don't even realize that

653
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.480
they are meditating, because in truth, when you're meditating, you're

654
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.920
just going into a state of inner wisdom and quiet,

655
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.440
and all that you're doing is removing the distortion. So

656
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.960
sometimes it can look like the typical meditative state where

657
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.280
you lie down and go into almost a trance, like

658
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.519
try to state, and I talk to you through it

659
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.639
and guide I do a guided meditation. And other times

660
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.920
it's just in that silence of listening and understanding and

661
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.039
tearing away distortion, because then they can hear that voice

662
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.079
that's always been talking to them, but they just haven't

663
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.800
allowed it to speak, they haven't allowed it to speak

664
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.400
without distortion. But I do quite a bit actually of meditation,

665
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:57.639
and for myself as well, I used to do a

666
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:01.440
lot more meditation until I to a state of more

667
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.920
of an embodiment, so I'm able to kind of tap

668
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.960
in and tap out even if I'm washing the dishes

669
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:11.199
or or just being quiet. In those moments, I'm just

670
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.840
very clear on my vessel, and I have to be

671
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.079
to allow force to come through with the messages. So yeah,

672
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:26.000
meditation is everybody's just learning that they need moments of quiet,

673
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.280
and that quiet is not just quiet from sound, but

674
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:33.360
it's quiet from thoughts, it's quite from embedded things that

675
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:37.519
we've seen and heard. It's just quiet, and then they'll

676
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.599
feel because the meditative steak can just come through as

677
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.639
feelings as well, and then they'll feel a pull towards

678
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.800
something well.

679
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:51.280
So it's been an interesting discussion. I think we could

680
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.800
probably do this for a couple more times. There's so

681
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.159
much to talk about. You have so much wisdom here,

682
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.800
which I really appreciate. Thank you. So we close. What

683
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:03.840
would be kind of that message that you'd like to

684
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.639
leave with the with the folks that are listening.

685
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.880
Yeah, if you're going through anything that feels like a

686
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.679
hard time, this is key. There is always one problem

687
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.639
in the world that you could be going through, and

688
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:22.559
there's always one solution. The problem is always an attachment

689
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.119
and the solution is always detachment, and that that can

690
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.360
be a very deep one to discover yourself. But but

691
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:35.400
the key is there, there is inner peace. And this

692
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.519
is not coming from me just saying it as a

693
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:41.280
spiritual teacher, but somebody that has lived through a lot

694
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:45.239
of not just health issues, but just life getting very,

695
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.480
very extremely hard. And yes, you can come out the

696
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:52.079
other side and find that inner piece. It is absolutely possible.

697
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.480
Oh love it. Thank you, Ashmida. This has just been wonderful.

698
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:01.159
I appreciate it. Thank you, and I hope it's been

699
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.840
good for you too. I think it's interesting how as

700
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.760
we are able to share our thoughts and our experiences

701
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.840
with others, realizing that as we're able to do that,

702
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.599
if we can just reach one person that will change

703
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.440
their direction in life, it's worth it. Yeah, yeah, it's

704
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.039
worth it. So anyway, thank you so much, and folks,

705
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.320
thanks for listening. Hope you've enjoyed it. Look forward to

706
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.639
having you join us again soon. This is doctor Doug saying,

707
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:27.920
no mistake.