Aug. 18, 2026

From Farm to Failing Heart: Building a Marriage That Survives Anything

From Farm to Failing Heart: Building a Marriage That Survives Anything
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Gaylen Wilson nearly died three times before his heart transplant gave him a second chance at love. Now he teaches couples the "Monument Method”, protecting a relationship one kind word at a time. This episode covers attachment theory, fighting fair, erectile dysfunction and marriage, and why purpose is the antidote to depression after 50. www.monumentmethodinstitute.com

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the services of competent professionals before applying or trying any

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I have spent years in conversation with people who are

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successful by every measure and still quietly restless, not broken,

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not lost, just aware somewhere underneath the noise that there

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is a version of their life that feels more honest

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or grounded, more genuinely theirs. This podcast exists for those people,

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for the ones who are done performing and ready to

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go deeper. My name is doctor Doug. Welcome to Inspire Vision.

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I am glad you are here.

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Galen, welcome to the show.

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It's my pleasure to be here.

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Doctor dud Hey, I'm really excited about it.

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I think you have some insights that I think are

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so important, particularly to those who have gone past a

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certain age. You're trying to figure out what to do

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with your life, which you and I are kind of

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both in that situation. So anyway, I love for you

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just to share with the audits briefly who you are

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and a little bit about your background.

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Okay, well, I'm Galen Wilson. I was married at twenty

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had four kids by the time I was twenty six.

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I was a farmer all during my twenties and my

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life has been a series. I was on a box

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podcast the other day that was kind of a gaming podcast,

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and the guy said, Jalen, you're a real life RPG player.

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You've had six character wipes in your life. You had

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to reinvent your character. And so of course I had

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a heart transplant eight years ago that's given me another

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twenty plus years with my soulmate. So wow, that's right.

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I just feel so blessed.

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Well, and that's wonderful.

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And you know what I find interesting, and this is

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not even on the topic that we were going to

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talk about. You talk about your experience as a farmer,

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and you know, living here in Thailand and seeing the

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work ethic that has been developed among some, not all,

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but among some were that farming really taught them to

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work ethic. And I'd love for you to just quickly

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share what your experience was and what type of work

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ethic did you learn from that?

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Yeah, my dad passed on to me and insane work ethic.

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Like I said, I had four kids by the time

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I was twenty six. I didn't start college until after

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I was twenty six, So around twenty seven twenty eight,

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I was actually farming a dry land farm, an irrigated farm.

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I had a business where I sharpened implements for farmers.

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I had a roofing business and taking seventeen credit hours

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at the college and wouldn't let myself get less than

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a four point zero average. So I was a little

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over the top. Yeah, so yeah, I got the insane

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farmer work ethic.

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Oh that's great.

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So talk a little bit about what happened in twenty fourteen.

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Okay, my wife and I had been traveling doing computer

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field service work and another one of the things that

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I had reinvented myself into, and we were actually we

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hooked up with an outfit out of West Virginia that

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sent us all over the United States going to farm

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service agency offices in the county seats. And so we

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had just come back off of the seventeen week trip

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and it was around Christmas time, I got really sick,

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and so I went into the little clinic. We live

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in a town of seventy five hundred, so we have

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a hard time getting good medical personnel down here. And

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so the physicians assistant that I saw at the clinic says, okay,

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mister Wilson, you've got pneumonia. Here's some antibiotics. And he

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didn't send me for chest X ray, which I found

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out later was a big no no for diagnosing pneumonia.

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And so we had another three and a half month

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trip planned in January, and so by the time it

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was time to go on the trip, the stuff coming

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up out of my lungs was clear, and so I decide, hey,

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we're good to go, and so we left and but

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as we went I just got weaker and weaker and

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weaker and weaker. Until six weeks into the trip, we

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were in Corpus Christi, Texas, and it was President's Day,

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so this FSA office was closed. So I said, let's

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go into let's find us a walking clinic and see

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if the pneumonia is coming back. And because I I

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had a little ten pound bag of tools that I'd

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have to carry in and send it on the counter

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and suck air for two minutes before I could tell

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them why I was there, and so I went in.

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They did send me for the chest stakes ray. They

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called me back that afternoon, says mister Wilson, you don't

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have pneumonia, You've got congesti park failure. You need to

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get home to Colorado today. So that virus I had

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had around Christmas time had attacked my heart, and because

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it went untreated for six weeks, it just had gotten

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worse and worse and worse and worse. And so so

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poor Heather, she's from a town of three hundred here

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in Colorado, and she had to drive all the way

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back because I was just gone at that point. I'm

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just too weak to even drive, and so she drove

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me all the way home. Took us two or three

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days to get home, and we went into the little

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hospital here, which is basically a triage hospital. And so

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as soon as I walked in and said I've got

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a heart problem, they said, well, okay, mister Wilson, the

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ambulance be here to take you to Colorada Spring. And

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so they got me to the springs, into the er

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and and we've you know, a normal healthy human heart

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puts out fifty to sixty percent out of the left

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chamber every time it beats. Mine was putting out five. Wow.

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So I was knocking on death's door really hard. And

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so they gave me Lasik, which is a diuretic, and

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took off twenty two pounds in two days. So that's

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how much water had been around my heart and lungs. Wow.

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And the doctor was explained to me and until I

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said so, in other words, my heart and lungs got

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in a ballroom fight in the middle of a pool.

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He said, yeah, pretty much. And so they put in

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a defibriator pacemaker in me and put me on heartbeds,

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And by that summer I was up to thirty percent

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ejection fraction. So I wasn't running any foot races, but

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I felt for pretty decent. In fact, I put a

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four thousand square foot roof on my dad's house that summer.

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Crazy work ethic, yeah, And so but then the next January,

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my heart started going into apib that's where the top

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part doesn't beat in synchrony with the bottom part. So

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when your heart's week and it doesn't beat properly, you

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get to be a sick. Man very quickly, and so

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they had to cardiovert me. And for your audience, that's

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where they take the little paddles and shocked you back

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into rhythm, or in this case, they just put stickers

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on me and put me to sleep. Did it where

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it's when it's non emergency, And so I ended up

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happening to have that done six or eight times over

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the next two and a half years. The first two

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years after the virus attacked, Heather and I were still

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able to be intimate some like a couple of times

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a week. But by two years in my heart had

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gotten so bad that intimacy just became out of the question.

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And so a lot of we had had twelve years

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together before the buyerus had attacked, and we had always

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been really close, really had a deep connection from the

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very beginning. We basically never left the romance face for

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that twelve years.

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That's amazing, Yeah.

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It is amazing, but it and has built, it built

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the foundation that has brought me to this exact point,

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because as we you know, a lot of couples when

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they get into these long long It took us three

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and a half years from the time of the virus

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attacked these long drawn out health issues, the thick person

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often pushes their caregiver away, or the caregiver just gets

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so exhausted that they just give up and leave.

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Yeah, and in twenty eighteen one.

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Well, I first of all, Heather never hitted it wanting out.

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She stuck by me and just nursed me right up

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to the very end. And so I set her down

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on June nineteenth of twenty eighteen, at nine o'clock at night,

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told her, Honey, I'm not going to be here in

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two to three months. We need to get ready. We'd

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been to the mortuary once and need to go make

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some final decisions. I'd had my defibriator go off for

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the first time three weeks previous and saved my life,

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and I could just tell I wasn't I'd only been

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on the list seven months, and so I could the

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handwriting was on the wall. I wasn't going to get

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a heart before I was gone, because a lot of

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people die while they were on that list. And so

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I just told her that. She was bawling her eyes

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out because I just told her I was dying on her.

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Half an hour after I told her that, we got

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to call her. Was the heart available, and so so

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we grabbed our to go bag like a little pregnant

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like a pregnant couple keeps, and away we went to

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Denver and we were having an Eastern Colorado hailstorm that night,

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so it was raining and Hayleen outside and she had

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switched from crying because she was sad to crying because

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she was excited and scared. And I don't know how

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fast she went, because they had given us till one

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thirty in the morning to get there, and so we

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got there one fifteen, and I think she I think

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she rather exceeded the speed limit on especially once she

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got past the rainstorm and on to the interstate, and honestly,

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it worked.

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So yeah, So you know, you you've talked about, just

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very briefly, a couple of things. But one of the

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things that I find is difficult for people. I mean,

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you've been you've been a farmer, you've been doing all

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of these other things so literally, and then your heart attack.

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You've been sick for four years and then all of

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a sudden, a new reinvention, a new start, a new

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beginning in your life again. So I wanted I want

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you to talk a little bit about how does someone

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reinvent themselves or realize that because something dramatic has happened

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in their life, and oftentimes negative dramatic, then they literally

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and have a new beginning, start again, reinvite themselves. How

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did you do that? And what are some suggestions you

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make the people who are experiencing that and struggling with it.

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Well, first of all, you know, I feel so blessed

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to have been given another twenty plus years with my soulmate. Yes,

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and then on top of that being becoming we have

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discovered how to become so one that we have become

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each other's refuge from all the crazy in the world.

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And that's what marriage is really supposed to be, a

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refuge from all the outside world. And so I felt

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this my type a personality again kicks in with you

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need to pay this blessing forward. And so about three

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years after the transplant, I was getting to be about

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sixty five. I had developed directile dysfunction at forty four,

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but Niagara had been miraculous for me for the whole

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time and even after the transplant. Within thirty days of

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the transplant, my donor was a thirty eight year old

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that was into snowboarding and inline skating in the extreme sports.

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So his ejection fraction was sixty seven is still sixty

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seven percent, and so we were able to start making

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love again just a month after the transplant. But as

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we as I aged for my erectal dysfunction started getting worse.

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So I had joined two groups to become that were

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for a rectile dysfunction discussion on Facebook, and I started

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getting so involved with helping other guys because first of all,

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I found my fix was, which was shockwave therapy. You

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can buy a little machine that rebuilds the vessels and

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valves and fixes it. But then I started pushing it

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a lot in the group and getting really involved with

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the group. And the man that had the larger group

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was about thirty five hundred. Then he had been doing

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had founded the group eight years previous, and he was

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just done. And so I went to a He was

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letting a lot of spam go on in the group

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and you know, a lot of snake oil being sold,

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and so I went to him and offered to be

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an administrator for him, and he said, no, you can

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have it. Wow, And so he gave that.

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Group, I'm going to interrupt you here because Okay, I

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recognize as part of your reinvention, but I want to

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talk about you know, obviously, if someone is experiencing that

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for til this one, it really creates a need for reinvention.

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But but there are so many other things that happened

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in people's life. In your case, it was you know,

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the heart situation in the heart trink. For other people

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it's a divorce. For other people, it's other types of

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physical illness, some lose a job. There are so many

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things that can occur for someone that they sit back

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and can get extremely depressed, discouraged. How what are your thoughts,

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because you have reinvented yourself so many times, what are

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your thoughts that you would share with someone who is

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at this point right now, so frustrated and so you know,

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what am I going to do with my life?

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Right?

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What are suggestions? How do you help them to understand

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how they literally can reinvent their life.

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Well, the first thing is, I truly believe that the

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greatest gift this life has to offer is a strong romantic,

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sexual friendship and spiritual relationship with one woman who you

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become incredibly one with. And I can't discount Heather's part

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in this because we have found that, and we had

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found that actually during the twelve years, we just we

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didn't have a name for the monument method then. But

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I also believe that anything you're doing in your life

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that is not serving that goal is liable to leave

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you empty. And so that's that's the biggest thing I

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have to say to people going through this is and

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it doesn't necessarily have to be a spouse. It can

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be your loved ones. You know, you've got to find

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support in it, find.

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Support of someone who really loves you and is willing.

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To support you.

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And exactly.

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Yeah, in today's society, these marriages are very difficult. I do,

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I know what the divorce rate is now, but and

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the younger generation are not getting married. Yeah, for that

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very reason, I suspect. So what were some of the

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things is we to talk about relationships and let's let's

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keep it both with marriage as well as just relationships

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where they empty sided to be together but not get married,

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or even family or deep deep friendships.

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What what are some of the things.

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That you found as you developed that relationship with your wife?

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What were some of the steps that you followed, both

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communication wise and otherwise to help you build that relationship

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to the point where there was really that deep trust,

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that deep love, and that deep support that helped me.

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Okay, okay, Well, so one of my frustrating parts of

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administrating the groups was when a woman would come into

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the group and it was the same story over and

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over with just different women that their man had developed

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ed and refused to go to the doctor and had

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cut her off completely from all affection, you know, all

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emotional support. He was abandoned right in the marriage. And

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I couldn't do much but to empathize with these women.

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I didn't know why these men were doing that, And

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so I actually got Heather and I into a course

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to become certified Thriving Relationship coaches. And the very first

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book we read was Hold Me Tight by doctor Sue Johnson,

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and in it she talks about attachment theory, and her

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attachment theory is is that we were bred through thousands

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of years of prehistoric evolution to have an instinct for

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a strong attachment to our mate, that those people that

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didn't have it didn't survive and their offspring didn't survive.

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So it got brought forward into modern man as an

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instinct that's just as strong as our need for food

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or need for water. And so then she went on

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to say that most of the fights we get into

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are not about what we're fighting about. It's because that

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attachment instinct has detected a threat to the attachment and

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has thrown our bodies into fight or flight mode. So

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you get both partners in fight or flight mode. Logic

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leaves the building, and so things get said that they

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Logic leaves the building and leaves the lizard brain in control.

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I say, so the lizard brain says things that aren't

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true and things that are hard to take back. And

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so eventually, as if the if the couple doesn't learn

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to repair that, they just end up getting their nervous

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system starts learning that it's not safe with the partner,

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and so they just drift further and further and further away.

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And so I got together with Heather and I said,

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how do we stop triggering each other's attachment theory? And

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so the first thing I thought of was, well, we

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need to watch what tone we talk to each other,

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you know, because sometimes you talk to your loved one

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like they're the worst person on the planet and you

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get away with it because they love you. But you're

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triggering that attachment instinct when you do that. And so

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we gave each other permission, and that was that permission

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is the big key to all of this, because you've

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got to we believe we're building this big, beautiful monument

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to our relationship. So every kind word and loving gesture,

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and especially when you make love with presence, you're building

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on your monument. And so each cruel word or cold

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shoulder or fight you get into like taking a hammer

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and chizsel to your monument. And so we decided that

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we needed to fiercely protect our monument. That's the monument

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Method Institute motto is fiercely protect the monument. Yes, And

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so we started we gave each other permission to call

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each other out when we were using tongue, like honey,

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did you really need to say that in that tone?

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And so we started working on that and not helped,

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but we were still getting in the fights and getting

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in in fighter flight mode, and so I got thinking

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further on it. How do we stop ourselves from getting

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in fight or flight? And so what I came up

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with is we gave each other a sacred word, and

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ours's monument, and so whatever either one of us seizes,

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heading towards the monument with the hammer and chisel. In

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other words, when we've said something that's going to start

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a fight, the other one can call monument, not only

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to remind us that the monument is more important than

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our ego and more important than winning a marital fight,

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which nobody wins anyway, and so and then it also

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serves we've agreed ahead of time that anytime monument gets called,

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we stop the fight no matter what. But you don't

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separate when you call monument, because if you separate and

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calm down a little bit and come back together and boom,

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you're right back in fight or flight mode again. So

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the way we learn to keep each other out of

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fight or flight is instead we turned towards each other, approach,

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touch these other's arms, embrace and gaze into each other's eyes,

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and patch that little spot on the monument. So what

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that does. The science behind that is is when you

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connect with your lover like that, it goes into that

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primal brain. It says you're safe, your attachment is safe,

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you can stand down, and so then the nervous system

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takes you out of fight or flight, and logic re

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enters the building and you can logically talk about what

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you were getting ready to have a big bite about.

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And so you know, that's what people can do that

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are feeling so desperate and so depressed, is they need

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to find somebody that they can connect with on that

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deep a level, because it's it's actually quite healing because

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once you start practicing it, and it does take practice,

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because we seem.

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To be wired to fight, well, it takes practice, but

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it also takes two people. Exactly the thing that has

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really come up as I've interviewed so many people, particularly

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unfocused on relationships, that it takes two people if one

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is willing and the other one is not all of

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a sudden, or if they're emotional quotion, if they're you know,

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emotional intelligence is low and stuck, it doesn't work. And

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you know, as you're talking about this and again you

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keep going back because this is your life and your

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experience with your wife, you know, with your spouse and

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so forth. So but here's what comes into my mind.

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All right, I've got four kids. You said you have four.

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Also, yeah, I.

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Had four with my first life. And then I wait

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completely insane and married a seventeen year younger woman with

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three little ones sod.

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Okay, So, and then I don't know how you know

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I've got I've got four brothers and one sister. So

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let's say someone who's not married, not necessarily in a relationship,

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is kind of alone, and yet they have children, or

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they have brothers or sisters. You can't sit and touch

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each other, hug each other, look each other in the eye,

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and you'll do that. So I don't want you to

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talk about just based on what experience you might have

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with this, is how do you help someone who's at

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this point in time a little lonely, living alone, but

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they do have a potential source relationship source, whether it's

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with children, or whether it's with brothers or sisters or

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or whatever, or even with a good friend. How do

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they do it? It kind of moves away from the

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monument method for marriage. How do they do it in

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a way that they can start to redevelop a relationship,

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to feel support and to move away from that tremendous

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difficult situation of feeling lonely.

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Yeah, so we're going to go back to my biggest

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frustration with those women that entered the group. Okay, because

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they were as separated as they could be. And so

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I've actually written three books. Once Rebuilt for his eyes only,

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and it gives him the ed ladder of how to

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fix the ed, but it also gives him the monument

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method on how to repair his relationship. And the third

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thing is I challenge him to become master lovers. And

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because so many women in the group have told me

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that their man became a much better lover after he

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got ed because he wasn't concentrating on performance, he was

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concentrating on being present and so but these women, I

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actually wrote the book Anchor for her eyes only, and

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it talks about, first of all, getting herself on solid

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emotional ground, because first of all, the very first thing

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that most women think the second their man loses the

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direction is it must be me. And then the second

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thing is that he must be having an affair and

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doesn't want me any and neither one of those are

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usually true. And so once she gets to understand what's

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going on in his head, is she the book teaches

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her to recognize the fact that he that man that

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I thought was a coward for abandoning her, is actually

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been thrown into fight or flight with the second he

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lost his first direction, his primal brain said, dude, you're

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going to lose your wife, and so it's thrown him

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into fight or flight. And so the only way she

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can get him out of that is is by approaching

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him with non sexual touches, you know, with as much

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eye gazing as heal letter do and slowly start to

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get his nervous system to feel regulated again. And so

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I think that's what these people that are extremely depressed

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are going to need to do, is just start reaching

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out to people and not being aggressive about it, but saying, hey,

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you know I need you, you know, come help me.

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Well, and you mentioned something that you didn't get into it,

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and that is needing to work on yourself. And I

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think that that can be so important because so often

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we find ourselves in emotional levels that we get stuck in.

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We find ourselves not really recognizing that there's so many

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imprints in our lives from childhood, et cetera that are

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subconscious that cause us to react in particular way. So

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how important is it for that self work to be

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done so that then when you start to approach someone

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in seeking help developing that relationship, how important is that

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that they actually take the responsibility to work on themselves first.

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Yeah, it's highly important. In fact, you were talking about

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how crazy the dating or dating culture is in this

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world now, and especially among younger kids. And so I've

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actually written two books, The Monument Man and Monument Woman,

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to train these older men and women that have had

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a failed relationship not to build on chemistry, but to

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build on structure. And one of the things I talk

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about is doing the self work to make sure that

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you're worthy of building a monument with somebody, that you've

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done the work to where somebody can take a risk

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on you. Because that's what's happening now is people out

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there just taking a risk. A lot of that is

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due to because they're building on chemistry instead of structure,

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and so chemistry only lasts. You know, me and Heather

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were the outlier where we stayed in the romance phase

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for twelve years. The normal romance phase last last six

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months to two years. And funny thing, that's how long

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most really a lot of relationships last. Is that exactly

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00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.920
because they they and one of the big problems is

471
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.240
people going to bed together too quickly. And this is

472
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.000
not from a moral standpoint, this is just from a

473
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.799
physiological standpoint, when you go to bed quick with somebody,

474
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.279
your hormones take over and blind you to all the

475
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.039
red flags. Yeah, and so she goes, oh, she gets

476
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:51.000
the oxytocin and says, oh, I love him. But yeah, yeah,

477
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.039
I agree totally that you've got to do the self work.

478
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.519
You know that during my lifetime, I had the farm

479
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.839
farm drought to in my last three years were crop failures.

480
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.039
That was an farm bankruptcy into that. And then I

481
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.960
got into stockbroker and I had every one of my clients,

482
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.079
including three thousand dollars of my mother's money, in a

483
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.480
little dental HMO in California that turned out it was

484
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:21.640
lying on its financials and file chapter seven. Yeah. Yeah,

485
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.039
and so all my clients lost all And I can

486
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.599
name the Monday in nineteen ninety that I crawled inside

487
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.720
a vodka battle for ten years and that was not

488
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:37.200
the way to chill. And so, and it all comes

489
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.240
back around to trying to find that person. You've got

490
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.960
to find that person. We can't do this alone. We can't.

491
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:45.160
That's true.

492
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.640
So there's one you know, you have reached a certain

493
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.240
point in your life with your wife and so forth

494
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.240
that you're obviously have developed a monument method. You're trying

495
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.599
to help people, you know, it comes to that point

496
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:05.119
of compassion and trying to help people, And what have

497
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.880
you experienced or what stories can you share about how

498
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.960
compassion towards another individual can not only change your own life,

499
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.759
but it also can change someone else's life, which ultimately

500
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.039
gets passed down generation through generation.

501
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.640
Right, And I go back to my years by five

502
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.079
and a half years of administrating those ZD groups, because

503
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.480
I worked probably twenty hours a week through the last

504
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.880
five years helping guys, men and women in those groups

505
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.880
without ever charging a single dying and a lot of

506
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:43.279
them were from third ruld countries where the healthcare wasn't

507
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.920
really good or they weren't even allowed to talk about

508
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.559
it because it was so taboom. And so I was

509
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.920
helping a lot of people that just didn't have any

510
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.599
other source to find the help.

511
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.279
You've got someone you talked about in Ghana, can you

512
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:58.519
share that story with us.

513
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:06.240
Yes, his name is before Emmanual, his nicknames Pope because

514
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.079
he was the very first person, first one of his

515
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.640
family to go to college, and so when he went

516
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.720
to college, he didn't have any interest in chasing the girls.

517
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:20.440
He was there to get his education, and so his

518
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.640
his classmates, the male classmates, started calling him the Pope

519
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:29.519
because he would celibate, and so he had come to

520
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:34.240
the group. Oh gosh early on, within that first six months,

521
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.000
I would guess, and he had, he was twenty four

522
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:42.039
at the time, had developed porn induced erectile dysfunction. Porn

523
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:46.279
is wreaking havoc amongst the young men in the world.

524
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.079
And so I helped him get that figured out. I

525
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.160
found that it takes ninety days worn free for the

526
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:58.759
brain to reset and for directions to come back, and

527
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.799
and so I helped him through that, and then we

528
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:05.960
became really close friends. He calls me Grandpa. But then

529
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.640
I lost track of him for like two years. I

530
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.519
didn't know what happened to him, and I got I

531
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.400
got in contact with him again a year and a

532
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.400
half go October, and I was shocked to find out

533
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.400
that he was surviving on one cup of rice a day.

534
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.319
And what had happened was is he had taken the

535
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:31.440
initial COVID vaccine and it had made him sick. And

536
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.599
then but then four weeks later or whenever it was,

537
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.799
he took the second one. It put him in the

538
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.319
hospital for fifty six days and disabled him to where

539
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.680
he couldn't go back. He had got his certificate as

540
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.279
a teacher and had gone to work as a teacher

541
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.319
and Ghana and that's who, you know, the school system

542
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.519
gave him the vaccines. And so you know, I found out.

543
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.599
I got a holistic nurse friend that was had been

544
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.920
in the ED groups with me, helping men for years.

545
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.839
I got her involved with that. She talked to him

546
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.759
and she came back to me and said, Galen, he's

547
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.240
just weeks from starving to death. Well, you know, I

548
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.720
couldn't let that happen. So I started sending him some

549
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.240
money for food. And then he was taking that money

550
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.559
and going to the vanders in the market and buying

551
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.400
prebade food and I said, no, no, no, that's not

552
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.799
going to work. And so I bought him like a

553
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.759
hundred kilos of black beans and a hundred kilos of

554
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.079
tom brown, which is a anti starvation food that was

555
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:33.240
developed in Nigeria to prevent starvation. And then I bought

556
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.519
him a little electric pot that he could cook it

557
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:40.200
all in. And so I got him and then I went,

558
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:45.279
you know, I've always been an amateur herbologist, and so

559
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.039
I got him involved in finding the tropics are full

560
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.519
of edible plants and have people starving all around them.

561
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.359
It's crazy. They just they don't know these plants and

562
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:02.119
these are superfoods all around them, and they're they're starving

563
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.759
to death because nobody knows about him. He did. He

564
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.640
had had no clue that most of the stuff. He'll

565
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.039
finally goes, oh yeah, I know that planted after he

566
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:15.000
found it, and I never thought it was edible. And

567
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.759
so we've slowly got him. He says, he's probably eighty

568
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.680
percent back. You know, had the problem of first ball

569
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.599
getting disabled by the COVID jabs and then almost starving

570
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.640
to death. And I think the starving to death did

571
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:33.480
him worse than the COVID jabs did, because when you

572
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.759
nearly starve to death, it just I mean, he doesn't

573
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.880
think I would say he's got the mental capacity of

574
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:46.079
fifteen sixteen year old. And so so I have actually

575
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.480
made him the exclusive Ghana distributor for my books, and

576
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.640
I'm giving him one hundred percent of the royalties, and

577
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.759
so I've I've got it set up with a little

578
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.480
printer and he and I made a special abridged Ghana

579
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.440
version that was fifty pages long that he could print

580
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.599
on twenty five pieces of paper, and so he's selling

581
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.039
those in the market. And so he's bringing the monument

582
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:14.880
Mesthoge to Ghana and he's about to be so self sufficient.

583
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.679
And have you found that by helping him? Has he

584
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.760
turned around yet and being able to help others?

585
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:27.239
He's not there yet, He's still he's still in trying

586
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.920
to get to he's about to that point. I think

587
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:34.199
he's starting to make enough sales. And then his estranged

588
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.400
father just died this week and so now he's stressing

589
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.840
out because he's the oldest child and they're looking to

590
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.079
him to buy the coffin and he doesn't have to,

591
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.679
so he's going around begging for money in Ghana to

592
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:49.960
buy a coffin for his own.

593
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.000
Okay, so let me ask you this question.

594
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.320
You know, can you move forward and showing compassion and

595
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.880
kindness to one individual here? And I'm sure you've done

596
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.000
it from others, but here's one story. What has that

597
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.880
done for you? I want people to really get a

598
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.800
sense of when we're willing to act out of compassion

599
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.480
to someone else in a genuine way, what does that

600
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.679
do for them internally.

601
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.320
Yeah, I actually say that I get more out of

602
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.840
helping these guys than they get out of You know,

603
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:26.679
when when a young man that I've helped two years

604
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:31.119
previous get off of Born and get his directions back,

605
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.559
I've had him come back to me two years later

606
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.280
and say, mister Wilson, we're going to name our kids

607
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.000
after you. I'm married and we're having our first child,

608
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:43.360
and so there's going to be all kinds of little

609
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:49.039
Galens running all over the world, or Gayleen's as the case.

610
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.039
Maybe that's great. So yeah, it does. It does give

611
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.960
you a fulfillment and a purpose in life. You know,

612
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.000
you go back to that depression and stuff. The main

613
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.280
reason for depression as you have no purpose.

614
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.960
Well, and now we get into this whole concept of

615
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:08.280
after fifty. You know, all of a sudden, and I

616
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.199
think so many people experience this. You know, you're married,

617
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.679
you have children, you may get divorced, now you're single,

618
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.280
or your children have grown up and left and now

619
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.840
you're without children, and all of a sudden that changes.

620
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.239
Or you've retired, you've been successful enough that you retire,

621
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.280
and all of a sudden, what on earth am I

622
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:35.239
going to do. What recommendations do you give to people

623
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:40.360
after that certain age where they can develop a new purpose,

624
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.519
new resilience, And we just have a short amount of time.

625
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:48.320
So go, yeah, well, and that's it. You've got to

626
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.039
If we stop moving, we die. You know, I've seen

627
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.800
it time and time again when guys would retire and

628
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:59.280
they're dead within a year. And so I think, whether

629
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.239
it's voluntary daring it at the local senior center or

630
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.039
you know, homeless center or whatever, you need to find

631
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:11.519
something of some kind of purpose. Of course, I have

632
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.239
now found the purpose of writing these books that are

633
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:18.119
going to say millions of marriages, and so it has

634
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.239
it has got me energized, and that type a personality

635
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.280
is kicked in. And so I have literally worked twelve

636
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:27.559
to fourteen hour days, six to seven days a week

637
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:28.880
for the last eight months.

638
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.960
Well, and you know what, you bring up something important.

639
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.000
I interviewed someone I can't remember how long ago, maybe

640
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.119
four or five months ago, and we were talking about

641
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:39.559
leaving a legacy.

642
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:41.920
And I had talked about.

643
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:45.360
My dad and how he literally left legacy for me personally,

644
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.559
which changed my life in my direction in life and purpose.

645
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.039
And I find that, you know, and one of the

646
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.000
things that she mentioned about that is writing. You know

647
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.400
is doing that, and actually I started doing that. I

648
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.800
went on too, you know, sub Stack. I don't know

649
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.960
if you're familiar with that, but not familiar with it,

650
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.079
but I've started writing these articles and sending a lot

651
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:11.880
of them to my kids. And I think so important

652
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.719
that someone in that situation where they're kind of without

653
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.840
purpose can just think about, you know, what type of

654
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.840
legacy can I leave? And for you, it's writing those

655
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.599
books and helping people. Everyone is going to have a

656
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:28.360
different thing. But the reality is is that if they

657
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:33.400
just under reflect a bit or maybe a while, that

658
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.119
they can determine a legacy that they can leave either

659
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.800
to their children, to their family, to humanity, whatever that

660
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.280
happens to be, which will then re energize them and

661
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.280
as you say, keep them going. My dad worked till

662
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.000
he was eighty seven years old and then couldn't do

663
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.519
it anymore. But he lived until ninety two. So I

664
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.039
think that's so important. And as you say, now here

665
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.480
you are just working, working and working, I'm doing the

666
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.199
same thing and that is so important. So I think

667
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.360
that's an important message for people. So what would be

668
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.320
your final message? To people in a short sixty second word.

669
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.039
Okay, Well, and we're going to back up a little

670
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:20.400
bit here because with men, testosterone plays a huge part

671
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:27.000
in depression motivation. At sixty five, my testosterone tanked to

672
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.599
blow two hundred, and I tried to bring it up

673
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.800
naturally for a couple of years, and just finally it

674
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.760
wasn't going to come up. And so I went on

675
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:40.119
TRT a couple of years ago, testosterone replacement therapy, and

676
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.679
the first thing I noticed was it brought me out

677
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.039
of the depression, light depression that I didn't realize I

678
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.199
was in, and then it motivated me. I was able

679
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:55.079
to lose weight, and it motivated me to get things done,

680
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.880
and it just made such a different not to mention

681
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.440
the fact that now I had the I got to

682
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.760
have her now feeling back. And so I think that's

683
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.480
important for men, to older men to take care of

684
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:14.760
their health thirty thirty five to It depends on which

685
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:18.119
experts you talk to. So somewhere between thirty five and

686
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.559
eighty percent of men will have a heart attacker stroke

687
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.519
within five to seven years after developing ED, and so

688
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:29.599
it's so important that they go get that checked and

689
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.599
find out what the root cause is and get it treated,

690
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.639
because these online pill sellers are just driving me nuts

691
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.320
because they're killing men. They're killing men because they have

692
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:45.079
a video doctor appointment, no blood tests to run, no

693
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.880
blood pressures taken, nothing. You know, they're just depending on

694
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:54.320
what the guy says to them and handing out these

695
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.480
pills that you know, five years down the road, boom,

696
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.199
the guy drops over from a heart.

697
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.440
So, as we closed today, how do people find your

698
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.760
monument Method? What how do they find that and read it?

699
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:10.719
They can gage some insight.

700
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.480
Yeah, because what we talked about is just scratch the

701
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:18.440
surface of the whole method. And so Monument Methodinstitute dot

702
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:22.320
com is my website and we've bug got and it'll

703
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.320
have a link to Amazon to where all our books

704
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.559
are and where right now we're actually I wrote my

705
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.880
two latest books, or Monument Man and Monument Woman there

706
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.679
for dating men and women re entering the dating market.

707
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.440
And I wrote them in such a way that at

708
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.639
the end of the books they're going, Okay, that's great.

709
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.239
Where do I find somebody to build a monument with?

710
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.280
And so as part of my pay it forward from

711
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my heart transplant, I have developed the monument Validated Person

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MVP dating site. You have to read one of the

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books and pass a test to get into the site

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at all, and then you've got almost You're there to

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find somebody to build a monu with, not for casual dating.

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And so if they go to my website and click

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on the MVP, it'll take them to that page and

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right now, if they scroll to the bottom, I'm actually

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giving away copies of both those books to try to

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get this dating site off the ground.

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Oh fantastic, well, Dalen, wonderful conversation, and you know, pleasure heart,

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what a wonderful thing that you're doing for people. And

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obviously you've got a particular focus and yet being able

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to help these individuals to find a relationship. I can't

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tell you how much I believe in really now experience

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the depth of a positive relationship and what that can

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do for your life.

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So, Dayleen, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

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And Okay, well, thank you so much for having me.

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I feel so honored being on your show. You've bet well,

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thanks for listening. I hope you've enjoyed it and look

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forward to having you join us here and soon.

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So this is doctor Doug imus day, every conversation on

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this podcast eventually comes back to that same question, not

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how do I get more? But is this actually who

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I am? If something you heard today moved you just

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a little closer to an honest answer, that is enough.

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I'm doctor Doug. This is Inspire Vision. Until next time.