Nov. 3, 2025

Recognizing Societal Influences and Rediscovering Self: Discovering Your True Self

Recognizing Societal Influences and Rediscovering Self: Discovering Your True Self

Aaron Scott, former hedge fund partner turned podcast host, joins Dr. Doug to explore how modern systems—from education to capitalism—shape our beliefs, identity, and spirituality. Discover how deprogramming begins with curiosity, perspective, and reclaiming truth.
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Denzel Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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to do the same.

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Aaron, Welcome to the show.

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Allo, Doctor Derek, thank you for having me.

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Oh, I'm excited. You know, interesting topic and probably going

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to be an interesting number of topics that we're going

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to talk about today. I'd love for you to share

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with the audience who you are, because I know you

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have an incredible background on Wall Street and suddenly now

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here you're doing your podcast, which my impression is it's

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entirely different than Wall Street, so maybe a little bit

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of it, but share with the audience who you are,

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what you've done in the past, and what brought you

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to this point where you're doing your podcast, which is

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Evolved Podcast, right.

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Yeah, the Evolved Podcast is the name of the podcast.

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It's recently been changed. Originally titled The Manhattan Profit. I

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found people were sort of gravitating to it for looking

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for something kind of religious, which is really not what

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it is if it's if you listen to it, which

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I know you have, and I felt that it needs

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to be rebranded a little bit just to fully encompass what,

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you know, what what the podcast is about. So yeah, so,

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you know, kind of very quickly, I've I've been on

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Wall Street for about two decades. I've kind of you know,

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I started as a uh, you know, low level analyst

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about you know, twenty years ago, and I've kind of

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ascended to the point where I was able to to

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co found and and manage as a manji partner in

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my own hedge fund. So I've really kind of seen

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it all, been there, and it's it's really I think

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a combination of my innate desire from a in the

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early age to understand things, you know, why things are

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the way they are in the world, why systems are

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set up the way they are, you know, to the

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to the basic why people hold the belief systems that

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they do right. And I kind of went on the

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the the path of Wall Street because I was always

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interested in how the you know, the corporations work. I

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remember I remember watching on CNBC, you know, kind of

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all the numbers go across the screen, you know, the

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stock markets and things like that. I was interested what

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the heck that was and that, you know, that along

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with a desire to make money, obviously drove me to

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the industry. And I think that you know, the the

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innate desire and curiosity, interest and my experience has really

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given me a very interesting perspective, if you will, on

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a lot of the topics I discuss, and I think

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has cultivated a again again unique understanding and something that

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I hope, you know, my listeners and this conversation with

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your listeners is impactful.

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Well, and how how did you come up with your podcast?

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And obviously the focus is, as you say, more on

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the you know people and so forth. What how did

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you come up with the podcast idea and motivation for that.

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Yeah. So look again, my journey, I would say, in

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in discovery and in really in truth was to get

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a proper construct understanding for the way society is structured,

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the way people decide or elect to do things. And

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it's it's taken me across a number of platitudes. Has

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taken me from you know, looking into belief systems too,

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economic systems, to social systems, to you know, delving into

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ancient knowledge to modern day religious institutions. What what you

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find is and and I actually remarkable is how the

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different topics or issues, if you will, transcend multiple planes.

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This is kind of a constant theme where anything from

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a metaphysical understanding to a you know, self identity understanding

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to social systems in our society, right. It really, it's

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it's a very interestingly surprisingly linear sort of relationship. And

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I think that as I especially you know, especially through

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my experience at Wall Street and seeing that end of

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things and seeing kind of you know, the society that

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that I'm a part of, it really gave me a

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very interesting understanding. And and and my and my topics,

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I would say, are really rooted in providing people with

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a lot of knowledge, the most importantly perspective, and letting

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people have the tools to look at these different topics

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in a unique way that they that they maybe wouldn't

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have or haven't before. And as and as I say,

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I think that it's really with giving people perspective and

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hoping that that sort of aha moment takes place and

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that resonates with them in some way they can make

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connection and then they can maybe look into other other

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topics like that. So so yeah, that's I guess that's

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that's kind of high level.

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Okay, And you know, it's so interesting. Every once in

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a while, I'm you know, I do a lot of

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social media stuff with my podcast, so I'm on there

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once in a while, and every once in a while

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I'll see something on say TikTok and it's like really

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and so I'll you know, do a little research on

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it and it's absolutely not true, and yet the person

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who's speaking seems to really believe it. So when we

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start talking about perception and quote truth and reality, that

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gets to be a very very confusing situation.

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It really is, and it's important to you know, taking

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a step back. We kind of live in especially in

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the West, with dealing with this kind of fractured truth apparatus,

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right where we have institutions, government, the medical industry, healthcare industry,

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education systems that are really supposed us to be at

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the bedrock of this kind of push for truth, to

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enlighten people, to help people, to provide people with the

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necessary information to make the right decisions in their lives. Right,

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they're protected serve. We want to create, you know, good

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stewards of society, things of that nature. We want to

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make sure people's health is always at the forefront. Right.

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But what's happened is you have a sort of these

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capitalist interests that come in and they taint the information

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that's being sent out, and it's for their own agendas, right.

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And this and this is really what a lot that

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I talk about, which is you have a society that

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has really inovertly people don't realize this, but overtly been

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structured around a capitalist mindset, right, where the end justifies

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the means, where capital is king. And this creates a

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pervasive decay on a societal level. And then what happens

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is when you have people and this sort of makes sense, right,

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but I don't think people pick up on it necessarily

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when you have those belief systems. So when you have

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those values in society, when when capitalism and your job

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and corporate interests create effectively the values, it impacts the

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individual's belief systems. It interpacts the individual's sense of self

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and identity. Right, And this is really what I'm getting

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what I'm hammering home, and I'm hoping to enlighten people

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to where they might not necessarily understand why they believe

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the things that they do or live their lives the

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way that they do. And what I have found, and again,

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it's important to be diligent in and having the right

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framework for discerning truth because to your point, there's a

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lot of people out there who makes, you know, statements

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with such confidence, but you know when you look into it,

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it's readily apparent that it's just not the truth. Right.

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But yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, go ahead, go ahead, No,

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go ahead.

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What I was going to say is I remember saying

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that I got when I went back to business school,

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and truth is what truth is for you, And you

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know that that's a belief. That's that's the saying. But

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from what I'm hearing you say, and quite Frankly, what

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I believe is that truth is merely a result. Truth

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to us is merely a result of our perception of

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what's going on. And what you're saying is particularly this

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capitalistic concept is overpowering things to the point where we

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are kind of programmed to believe a certain way to

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live a certain way, when in fact that's not really

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quote the truth, right exactly.

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And I think that Look, and I don't know how

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much I don't know, homut time you spend between your

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respective places, which are very different from you know, from

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a demo, from a demographic and from a cultural standpoint, right. So,

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but but especially in the way you have over let's

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just look over the over the last you know, you know,

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one hundred years, right, you had this overt push through

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the you know, the industrial revolution with you know, the

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robber barons and the industrialists who you know who through

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I mean that they formed overtly on the open the

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education system in the United States. This is this is

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the system that we still use to this day, right.

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And what you find is that the and they were outspoken,

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the underlying the tenets of this system was not to

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create I think they quote, you know, philosophers or you know,

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men of letters and lawyers and doctors. It was to

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create docile workers who would lend themselves well to the

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industrialist framework, right, and the bureaucratic framework. This is what

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they were creating. And the curriculum which was formed around

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the eighteenth century Prussian model, was in fact to do

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just that. So think, let's take us at back. Think

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about this. If you're if you're, if you're growing up

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in America, you're going to schools, going to school everything.

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and the that, and you've got all these things around

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with you know, you're a teenager. You don't you don't

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ever kind of take a step back and say, wait

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a minute, you know, why am I learning things a

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way that I am? Why am I sitting at a

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desk at the age of eight for six hours a

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day memorizing, learning, never questioning? You know, you never question

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what you learn. You never questioned beliefs. You memorize beliefs,

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You memorize and regurgitate. Right, you're you're you, You've been

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you've been schooled across you know, you've been in schooled

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for a while. So you understand how it works. Right,

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You you go and you memorize things and you regurg

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you and then then you get an A or a

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B or a C, whatever the grade is. That's not

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how the real world works. The real world works is

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you go out there, you screw up, you fail, you

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figure out what you did wrong, you get back up

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and get it again. You know, every successful person, myself included,

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the reason that there's success is because of their perseverance

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and their desire to transcend whatever the setback is, right

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it you don't succeed, you don't become successful ute unquote

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successful unless you go through that that push and pull. Right.

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But but the framework you get, and this is just one

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example I know you get from from that indoctrination is

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vastly different from not only the real world, but from

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many other ways of viewing the world. Right. So, if

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you if you're corralled down this down this path, you again,

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you're you're you're fed a very and then you get

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the society as a backroup where where it's very much

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a materialist, consumerist driven mindset. People don't see themselves as

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spiritual beings, they see themselves as material beings. The sciences

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teach you that you know, everything's everything's material. This is

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not we talk about truth and not true, but this

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is not true, right, this is this is just not

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the truth. And we've discovered this right through quantum physics

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recently where but there's been a lot discovered recently in

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proto physics. But you know where we learn everything is

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vibration and energy. Well, this is vastly different from what

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you're taught for twelve years and in basic side right,

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so so, but it's you know, it's these little things

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that add up and they shape and form your sense

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of self and then again the way society views itself

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and how and then that impacts how you know, they

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live their lives and their behavior. Right, they live their

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lives in many ways through repetition and appetite. They don't

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necessarily or reflex in appetite and repetition, they don't they

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don't necessarily take a step back again and see the

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big picture in what they are and then come to

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understand the different ways that they might you know, live

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their lives as a result.

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quite a ways to the industrial agent and so forth.

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I'm going to hit you with the education presently, what

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are your thoughts on what's going on there?

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Remarkably you've seen very little change, which I think is

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lematic and I think it speaks to a lot of

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what I'm saying where you see these and on a

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grander scale, if you look at the evolution of the

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human being relative to you know, technological advancements, advancements across

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specific industries or or market sectors, right, I mean, look

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at the amount of investment and from infrastructure to R

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and D. Well, where are we now as human beings?

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Have we evolved? My contention is that we have not evolved.

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In fact, we may have devolved. We are. Health is

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the worst physical and mental we are. We have bloated

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debt burden we have. I think we have the highest

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levels of in the States, we have the highest levels

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of consumer credit card debt I think since nineteen ninety

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nine by way of the Federals a make of New York.

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I mean, so if you look across a number of

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different planes here and you kind of have to kind

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of begs the question, you know, what has been our focus?

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What has been what have we decided to place our

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energy and attention too? And and and I think what

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you find is that it's it's through accumulating money, it's

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through working, and it's through consumption. This is not, in

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my opinion, the way that we should be structuring society.

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the the ancient ancient teachings and even the and even

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the fundamental tenets of of of uh, you know, Abrahamic religions,

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this was not the way people wanted to live. There

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a lot of instructions their lives and this isn't necessarily

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the way that we should be, right, it's yeah. So,

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and and what's interesting is and you also see and

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that I speak to this, you talk, you know, you

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see people who are you know, they're there their pessimis,

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their their pessimists, and they're kind of overwhelmed and they

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feel like we're in this matrix and you know that

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there's too much to overcome. There's too much corruption. Then

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there's there's too much that's been infiltrated. And they're kind

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of like they put their hands up and they say,

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you know, it is really like I can't do anything.

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make people reassess that belief, because that's just not the

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way they should be thinking. And I don't want to

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be dogmatic, but it's just it's it doesn't, it's not

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it doesn't lend itself to anything positive. And in truth,

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if you look at the systems, right, the systems themselves

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are not inherently evil. It's the consciousness beneath those systems.

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It's the people within those systems that have decided that

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this is how our education system should be structured, this

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is how our healthcare system should be structured, this is

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how our government should be structured. Now, so you we

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do have we in fact do have the power, right,

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we have the power to make changes. And and people say, oh,

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well there's so much corruption. Well guess what if if

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people decide that they're not going to take the kickback,

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they're not going to take the bribe. Right, This requires

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a paradigm shift and and thought and and it's about

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it's about coming to these realizations. And you come to

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these realizations by way of awakening people too. I believe

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these facts, and.

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Well, in that we are Yeah, yeah, let's let's talk

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about you know, the societal conditioning, because you know, you're

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talking about economics you're talking about education, but there's a

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whole plethora of societal conditioning that goes on besides those.

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And as you've as you've been doing your podcasts and

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interviewing people and so forth, what what would you identify

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as the major societal conditioning items that are going on?

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And you mentioned religion, so that's obviously one of them,

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But what are some of the other ones that you

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see besides just the economics and the education.

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I think that in the in the in the Western

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societal construct, I think that the main driver is money.

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And I think that, and I think that has perverted

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and infiltrated everything from from every sacred institution to people's

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identity and and self awareness.

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I think that. And it's not necessarily Again, this is

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important to to state, it's not necessarily like people are

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just you know, dreedy, and they just want more and

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more and more. And they people really by virtue of

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the of the way things are set up, the systems

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for who benefits who doesn't. People have to take on

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this this mentality because if they don't, they can't survive.

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Right you you you in the West, you you must

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plug into the system in order to to to live.

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You know, you have some not everybody has he has

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the fortune of being able to start a company that's

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hugely successful, or to go to medical school and and

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pursue their dreams as a as a physician. The vast

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majority must take a low wage job, a low wage

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job whose wage is not that necessarily determined by the

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right factors. We should be paying people more money. There

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should be there should be a universal basic income. When

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we're spending six trillion a year on you know, f fall,

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I mean, just just absolute garbage right around the world.

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We are taking you know, taxpayer dollars, and we are

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forcing Western Western hegemony down down the world's throats as

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we have been for for decades. When we are when

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we've elected to allow corporations to harvest and extract with

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you know, without any checks and balances, because again capitalist

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king and at least at least in this in this world.

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So so we need to and I believe that we

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need to start in lightning people, giving them, giving them

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complete information and allowing them to make a decision about

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how they want to live their lives. If they're don't

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given knowledge or at least perspective. To your point, we

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don't make that leap. We don't make that jump. And

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I think that we are now as you've seen, especially

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with what's been revealed by the recent administration. And I'm

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not trying to get political. I'm talking about facts here. Wow,

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the level of depravity and deception and decay that has

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taken place as a result is just it's it's astounding,

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it's it's it's it's disgusting, and it's it's a it

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really it really only kind of further legitimizes. I believe

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what my effort is in many people's efforts are and

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giving and giving people different perspectives and different ways of

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viewing themselves in the world around them.

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Well, and you know, as you talk about the economics

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and measure driving force, and I don't disagree with you.

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I think that that has a lot to do with it.

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But for people's lives, there's so many other elements.

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That go on.

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I mean, you you have, as you mentioned the word spirituality,

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and I want, I want for you to define for

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the audience what you mean by spirituality, because you talked

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about the Aprahamic covenand and you know that type of thing.

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But you know, people have lost quote their spirituality to

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such a large degree. And what what is your definition

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of spirituality?

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Number one?

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And then number two? Why have we lost that in

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general in society Now people say that's not true, But

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go ahead, I would.

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Say that is true. I think, I think that that's

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a big component here, right, I think that when you

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know I have always associated by virtue of my own

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you know, of my own doctrination, I've always associated spirituality

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with religion. Right. However, as you peel back the layers

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of the onion, if you will, what you find is

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that that is, it's quite it's in many ways the

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exact opposite of religion. And if you look back again,

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if you look back at ancient that ancient knowledge, if

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you go back to the right, go back to even

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even in many ways the Greeks the Sumerians that there

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was an understanding, a scientific understanding, that that spirituality wasn't

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just about a mystical transcendence. It was it was a

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part and parcel to our scientific understanding of the world. Now,

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maybe the way that they were expressing this relationship doesn't

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necessarily resonate with people's consciousness today. But but spirituality again, transcends,

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transcends planes where you know, I believe that we are

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all you know, spiritual beings living in a material realm,

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if you will, I believe that we are all part

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of a sort of universal consciousness getting to know itself

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through different faculties and experiences. You know, we live in

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this realm, and it's it's about connect It's about our

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connection to one another, recognizing this this universal wellness, and

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it's about experiencing that, experiencing yourself on a higher plane,

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making that connection and saying, look, I'm not just this

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dusts in the wind, entity that goes around, dies, goes

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in the ground. And that was it.

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That was fun.

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Right. This is not that, this is not, in my opinion,

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right in my belief, the way it is. And this

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is this is substantiated and legitimized through again ancient teachings,

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through really basic basic doctrine that you actually find when

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you when you go back into the old teachings, the

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original teachings of a lot of these Abrahamic faiths, you

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find that link. You find that connection. And this goes

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across Eastern philosophy, this goes into again the Abrahamic faiths.

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There are so many commonalities, there are so many common links.

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They are expressed differently because there are different cultures. But

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people don't realize that people. People are so segmented, people

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are so disconnected. Right. So so again I hope that

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answers a question I can. I can give you more there,

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but I think on a basic level that that's really

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what it's about. It's about and it's about a personal

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connection to that realm, a personal connection to that field

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of experience. This is what real spirituality is. And just

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very quickly, but if you look at you know, one

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over example, if you'l like the Catholic Church for example, right,

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and and their origin and and even even in the

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Jewish and Islamic place, you you have this embedded patriarchy, right, Well,

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why do we have this embedded patriarchy? What was the reason? Well,

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the reason was there was a a rejection of of

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the feminine goddess, right it was. And this was again

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this is a function of of of societal, economic sort

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of empire driving factors. But the sacred feminine was was

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the mystical, spiritual part of consciousness. Right. The the male

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was the you know, logical rational And there are many

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ways of expressing this. This was expressed differently across you know,

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many different civilizations. But but this was rejected, right, and

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this was because I believe, and this was this moved

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all way into the into the Renaissance ages of the

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Enlightenment periods in Europe. I mean, the reject anything other

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than a materialist or to be because you had to

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access the divine, the spiritual, the mystical through this, you know,

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this institution.

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Right, And it's interesting. It's interesting. I didn't mean to

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interrupt there, but as I've looked at it. For instance,

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today I was just looking at an article and it

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was fascinating to me because what you say about losing

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the feminine part of it, you know, and you know

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that heavenly mother or however you want to refer to that.

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It was interesting because you know, in many of the scriptures,

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particularly for Christianity, you know, man is the head of

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the is the head of the wife. Well you get

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into the original meaning of that Greek and what does

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it mean? He is the source? In other words, they're coequal,

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but he is this, you know, apparently, but he's there

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to be coequal with his wife and to support. And

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what I have found is that it's fascinating how the

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words that have been used, for instance, in English. And

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I was talking to some religious young men yesterday and

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talking about the fact that okay, you know, what does

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it mean?

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What does it mean to sin?

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And they were going on. I said, well, what's the

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original Greek word or better what perfection? You know, be

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there for perfect? What's the better word for that? And

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they go, I don't know. I said, well, bottom line

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is if you get to the original Greek it's complete.

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Well that changes the whole perception and truth of be

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complete rather than be perfect. And then what was interesting?

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And I said, so, how does that? How does that

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equate into tie? And because he speaks Thai, and he says,

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you know, it's interesting. They don't have a word for

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perfect in Thai. He says, it's more along the line

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of complete. So is fascinating to me that when we

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look at modern day religion. In fact, what's really interesting

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to me is, you know, we talk about spirituality, we

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talk about goodness, we talk about that innate divine within us,

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and yet all I see so much is Catholics, this,

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Baptists that, Mormons, that Islam that and so on and

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so forth. And it's like here they are saying that

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they happen to belong to these various faiths and religions,

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and yet the very thing that is, as you say,

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taught from the foundation going back, and you're right, I

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studied it. You look at Christianity, you look at Islam,

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you look at Buddhism, you look at Hinduism. Guess what

472
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.400
they all have basically the same truths that have been

473
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.400
taught if you get to the root cause and teachings.

474
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.359
So it's interesting to me that somewhere along the line

475
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:15.039
people have lost this concept of honoring other people. I

476
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.839
was fascinated when I when I'm here in Thailand and

477
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:21.599
I went to one particular temple area and as i

478
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.759
was walking in, there was this other building on temple grounds,

479
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:28.640
the Buddhist temple, and I'm going, what's that? And the

480
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:33.319
guy said, oh, that's that's a Muslim temple, and I'm going, really,

481
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:39.279
And what they've done is they incorporate and welcome everyone

482
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:44.279
all different religions. And you don't see that, you know,

483
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:49.400
that vehement kind of I'm kindness that exists and well

484
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.440
you're right and I'm wrong, or I'm right, you're wrong,

485
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.279
and type of thing. What has happened to us spiritually.

486
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.319
Why why has that happened? In your opinion?

487
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.480
Yeah, And I think that this is this is the

488
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.039
I mean, is recording a multifaceted answer, But I think

489
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.400
that I think what you're touching on. I think that

490
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:10.359
it speaks to this sort of identity crisis that I

491
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.640
call it, where you have people that are identifying through

492
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.039
the systems that we've created my country, my religion, my

493
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.480
big house, you know, my big paycheck, my job. But

494
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:25.880
people don't realize that's not who they are, right, not

495
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.799
even and let's take this at a level deeper, their thoughts,

496
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:33.000
their emotions, those are not you either, right, you are

497
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.000
having your emotions and your thoughts. So when you have

498
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.039
people and again this could be understood to be a

499
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.200
part of this materialist understanding where when you're looking to

500
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:48.079
identify and find meaning even in the world around you

501
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.359
and of yourself, well, what are you going to do

502
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.640
if you don't have the spiritual question? You're going to

503
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.559
gravitate towards the things that you do in the world. Right, Again,

504
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:04.400
that you're misidentifying with these uh externalized ideas or or systems. Right.

505
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.240
So I think that's that's a big part about it

506
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.960
where you have this this fractured understanding. And also and

507
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.279
people are in many ways unconscious of this, and they

508
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.839
look and they're also blinded by you know, oh this

509
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.640
guy has a different skin color. Oh, this guy speaks

510
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.359
a different language. Oh this is there's a different culture here.

511
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.960
So people are almost you know, they think by virtual

512
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.160
of what the individual looks like. Again, a materialist understanding

513
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.680
of the world. This guy is so different from me,

514
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.960
this guy's is it? But guess what, they're not so

515
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.480
different from you. We're all we all have the same faculties,

516
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.480
we all. We all perceive things the same way, effectively

517
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:43.680
taste things the same way. We all you know, we

518
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:49.079
all uh. And again at the core of our systems,

519
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.680
we all these were perverted, but we we all believe

520
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.519
in the same fundamental things.

521
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.640
So it's important again in this effort to get people

522
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.519
to to think critically, to question, to develop a curiosity

523
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.880
if they don't have one, and hopefully in doing so

524
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.000
they begin to look into you know, inherited belief systems.

525
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.759
Uh, what I call to be things that are that

526
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:17.720
are understood to be divine but are just never checked right.

527
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:20.279
The way that one lives their life. Oh, which is

528
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:21.759
everyone else are doing? This is the way society is,

529
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.559
this is what this is what you're supposed to be doing.

530
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.920
Why well, why are you supposed to what if it

531
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.680
doesn't lend itself properly to you? Right and and something

532
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.400
that you can see right away, right on a very

533
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:37.119
basic level, if you look at students who don't let's say,

534
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.680
tests well on the S A T or the MCAT

535
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.680
or whatever whatever standardized test, it is, well, these people

536
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:50.279
are not necessarily not intelligent. Not what it shows you

537
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:54.279
is that the test itself is flawed. It's not accounting

538
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:59.680
for the wide spectrum of intelligence. It's it's it's the

539
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:08.279
still willing certain certain abilities, you know, logical deductibilities that

540
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:14.279
will work well within the contract of our socioeconomic you know, uh, infrastructure,

541
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.519
if you will, but they will be able to excel

542
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.680
in jobs that you don't require these skills. But that

543
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.000
right there, you are cutting people off right there and

544
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.759
telling them that you're not smart enough, worthy enough, uh.

545
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.720
And that is why you are not getting the A

546
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:38.279
or getting the great uh standardized test score. Right. So

547
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.240
so it's really and I believe again if you it

548
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:46.039
keeps going back to this misunderstood sense of self, misunderstood identity,

549
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:51.279
materialists driven by default way of viewing yourself and the

550
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.839
world around you. And this is I just I just

551
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.200
had an episode of this. But if you look at globalism, right,

552
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:02.440
if you really globalism is telling people it's that it's that,

553
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.000
you know, capitalism used to be, you know, a system

554
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:11.279
where people were expressing the liberal idea. Liberal not being

555
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.079
you know, democrat, republican. Liberal being really liberal is about

556
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:18.039
you know, individual self interests being tantamount to everything else. Right,

557
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.440
So you had the liberal ideal as the driver, the

558
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.400
liberal deals a driver, and that would bring the individual

559
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.759
and society as a whole up. It was about the

560
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.480
people living in a certain region and if they if

561
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:36.200
they follow along this way of conducting commerce and living

562
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.319
amongst one another, that was the best way to do

563
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.759
the world. What's happened now is that you have capital

564
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.960
unchained capital, without any capital, without any any responsibility to

565
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.839
a land, to a people, to anything anything sacred, anything divine.

566
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.000
Right now it's it's out there. It's now it's dictating

567
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.440
to governments what they can and cannot do. Now it's

568
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.440
through you know, through the IMF and the World Bank

569
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.039
and through you know, intelligence agencies. I mean this was seen,

570
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.200
this was the CIA, or over the past one hundred years,

571
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.719
they were effectively, you know, I end hitmen, I end

572
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:15.079
you know, body guys going around pushing pushing corporate interest

573
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.599
on on South America, on on Africa. And this was

574
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.920
so that companies had a had an upper hand in

575
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.480
in that in that region. Right. So, so it's really

576
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:37.559
it transcends and it's it's about understanding why certain structures

577
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.480
aren't necessarily the right way to be doing things and

578
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.519
who those structures are benefit. You know, who those structures

579
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:45.119
are benefiting.

580
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.119
Okay, so here's the question. We've talked to a lot

581
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:52.280
of generalities here, Okay, yes, so let's talk about the individual.

582
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.400
I know that as you've worked with individuals, you've really

583
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.639
helped to impact their lives. And I'd love for you

584
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.119
to share number one, yea, how how do you help

585
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.639
them on an individual basis to deprogram from all of

586
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:12.039
these societal interests and conditioning And is there a story

587
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.599
that you can share without naming names, of where you've

588
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.599
been able to actually help someone through that deprogramming really

589
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.000
make a change in their life.

590
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.039
So it's what's interesting is when you try to talk

591
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.360
to people about these issues, what you find is that

592
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:34.480
and this is I think, I think this is just

593
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:38.079
kind of basic human nature. But when you when you

594
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.840
pierce somebody's veil and and and people kind of think

595
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.519
to themselves, you know, wait, has everything that I've thought

596
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.320
to be true not true? You know? Am I living

597
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.719
my life in a way that I should be. Some

598
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.599
people look at it as as a constructive exercise. Other

599
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.800
people are are, you know, kind of can't that it's

600
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.719
very scary for them to take that leap to the

601
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.880
other side. Right. But but one story that I think

602
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.119
is worth speaking to is actually with my with my

603
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.800
own mother and I I really for for years I

604
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.800
have been speaking to her about how the corporations have

605
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.800
infiltrated our our our food system and in the States,

606
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.880
and you have companies like you know, Monsanto for example,

607
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.679
where they came out and they were using pesticides that

608
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.159
killed the insects and the crops, and as a result,

609
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:41.480
they patented and sold their own GMO seeds, and those

610
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:46.119
GMO seeds could now withstand the pesticides, specifically glycostate, which

611
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.519
is used It's a it's a they call it, you know,

612
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.559
a might be carcinogen, but I think that the data

613
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.639
speaks for itself and also has terrible impact on on

614
00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:00.599
on the the human the endocrine system, the reproduct the system,

615
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:06.599
the microbiome in people's stomachs. So so it's it's just

616
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.280
a it's a tragic situation, but people are not aware

617
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.239
of this. So so anyway, I really started pushing on

618
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.719
my mother. I said, you know, please stop eating non

619
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:23.480
organic produce. Please don't buy GMO products because this stuff

620
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.480
is this glyphas sate garbage is in everything, especially in

621
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.039
the States. I think it's in The numbers are crazy,

622
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:36.119
like of all corn, corn and soybean product is GMO

623
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:42.079
laiden with glyphysate. Wow, this WASN'TO. This was into stack foods, uh,

624
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:47.360
pepper farm goldfish, cheerios. I mean, this isn't stuff we

625
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:51.320
feed our children. Uh. The the wheat is just is

626
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.639
just bounded with stuff and people don't associate or know.

627
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.039
And and I and I begged my mother and I

628
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.519
would send her articles and I would center And this

629
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.800
at the time was fringe. I mean we we saw

630
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.400
a big exposa recently, but this was very kind of

631
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.480
French thinking. And and I said to her and she

632
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:11.880
was actually she had a macrobiotic macrobiotic diet when she

633
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:13.679
was younger, so I thought it would resonate with her,

634
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.920
but it took me a long time to convince her

635
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.440
to make that change. And I think that I think

636
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.679
that you know that that's one way. So it's really

637
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.239
it's starting with giving people practical things that impact their

638
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:29.719
daily lives that aren't that aren't so woo woo. Where

639
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.519
if you know, if I go up someone and say listen,

640
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:35.079
I know you think that you're just this material being

641
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.320
that's going to die and nothing happens after. I mean,

642
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.719
it's tough to really get people to want to jump

643
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.679
into that ship, right, So so I kind of try

644
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.480
to start with with stuff and impact them on a

645
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.519
on a on a daily basis. And and and you

646
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.719
know that we go to the health industry and how

647
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.320
that shifted dramatically by the industrialists. You know, the American

648
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:57.320
Medical Association was set up, but it was a bs

649
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:03.440
B S association Rockefeller and and the Fuctional Report of

650
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.000
nineteen ten. I mean, you go back and you really

651
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.519
see what allopathic medicine does and did and why it

652
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.719
was introduced a full rejection of holistic and homeopathic approaches

653
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.960
to medicine. Nutrition through medicine I mean, or medicine through nutrition.

654
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.039
I mean, that's the hack, right. If you eat well,

655
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.480
your body is built to take care of itself on

656
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.840
a you know, on a fundamental level. That obviously there

657
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:30.559
are outliers there, but so this whole way of thinking, right,

658
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.840
if you can again start small and start showing people,

659
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.199
you know, piece of information, allow them to make certain changes,

660
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.000
I think that's the way you do it. My mother

661
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:40.920
I was able to after a couple of years, finally

662
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.360
get her to start making these changes and remarkably, and

663
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:48.079
this is the truth, what she cites has changed in

664
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:52.800
her life are insane, from increased clarity to you know,

665
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.679
from talking about the problems with alcohol consumption, I mean,

666
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:01.320
just stopping drinking and not eating geno product and culture

667
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.880
processed foods. So it's not necessarily the all the information

668
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.320
behind how you know, the tobacco industry penetrated the food

669
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.400
industry between the you know, the nineteen eighties and two

670
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:14.760
thousands with craft Nabisco, it's not necessarily going into those

671
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.199
detailed with some people, some people you know, that works

672
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.559
well for them, but it's about getting people to make

673
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.280
all changes that they can on a practical level in

674
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:26.119
their lives and hoping that you know, the bet pays

675
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.119
off that don't start feeling it and experiencing it.

676
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.079
So how do you how do you help people? Because

677
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.519
when you get even deeper, and obviously you're talking about

678
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.119
some things that are really tough to change, just like nutrition,

679
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.079
no question about that. But as you think about even

680
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:47.119
deeper aspects, you talk about religion and the effects that

681
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.960
religion has had on people's mentality and self worth, in

682
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.519
many cases very positive and in many cases very negative,

683
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.559
particularly as I've interviewed so many people and that seems

684
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.079
to be one primary situation. Or you have childhood trauma,

685
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:11.480
childhood experiences that get embedded in that subconscious mind. How

686
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.000
do you even go there? Have you tried to help

687
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.840
people to get to that point where they understand that,

688
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.519
you know what, I'm not even living my own life.

689
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:24.239
I am I'm living society's life. I'm living someone else's life.

690
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:26.079
How do you help them to get to the point

691
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.559
where as you talk about spirituality they really come back

692
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.760
to the point that hey, this is who I am

693
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:35.159
and this is who I can be, and it's just

694
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.840
a matter of starting to eliminate all of this junk

695
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:40.760
that's been put on us.

696
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:44.519
Yeah, I think it's difficult because in many ways you

697
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.000
have to you have to kind of be sensitive to

698
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.800
where you're looking to attack or approach, because, for example,

699
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:56.599
there are many ardent believers in Jesus, for example, right

700
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.280
in the world of Jesus, and there is such for so, I,

701
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.280
although I don't believe that Jesus is the son of God,

702
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.519
I believe that the teachings that you find his teachings

703
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.840
right are hugely beneficial and speak truth. Right. So if

704
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.000
you have somebody who you know, who maybe doesn't fully

705
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.360
understand the truth behind this Jesus figure, but can appreciate

706
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.199
the teachings, you know, it's to me, it's like, you know,

707
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.880
pick your poison here, or choose your battles wisely, because

708
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.920
I think that they're getting something beneficial from it. Now,

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if you're people who are you know, kind of like

710
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in a zombie like state, believing that they're going to

711
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that they're going to find salvation through going robotically to

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church or to temple or praying, three becomes the date

713
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of Mecca, you know, those people are not going to

714
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get to a touch on spirituality. They're like kind of

715
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like a greyhound on a racetrack. They're chasing this bunny.

716
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They don't know that. They think they're going to get

717
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there as long as they kiss the ring and go

718
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to mass. But they're never going to get there, right.

719
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They only get there if they allow themselves to understand

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the true history of their religion. Uh, and understand what

721
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true spirituality is and just very quickly, and I'll kind

722
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of answer your question better. I know that wasn't necessarily

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what you're looking for. But you know, people nowadays say,

724
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you know, we're in a good trajectory. You know, people

725
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are rejecting religion. They're they're they're gravitating towards spirituality. And

726
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I have two things to say to that. One thing

727
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is yes. But you know, I call the popes like

728
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the wizards. I call them like the Wizard of Oz.

729
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You know, they cast their spell and in doing so,

730
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the Christian faith. The ite of Americas is a Christian country.

731
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They are the bedrock of our civilization cross continents. Their

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belief system, their way of viewing the world, their way

733
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:54.880
of structuring is the underbelly of even political ideology. Political

734
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you know, great thinkers, John Locke, Thomas Hobbs. I mean,

735
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these guys were these guys were.

736
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The bedrock of of of the decoration of independence in

737
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our constitution. They were the they were the great minds

738
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.719
that structure and they were and they were Christians, right,

739
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So so it's very difficult to separate that from today.

740
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So so people don't understand that.

741
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.679
They think that, you know, oh, they're rejecting the institution

742
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.679
of the church, therefore things are on the right path. No,

743
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.000
that's not what's going on, right, That's just not the reality.

744
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:32.760
And I just I just lost my other train of

745
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thought here. But but but a.

746
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That's the point being obviously that values, if we get

747
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to the deep values, as you say, get back historically,

748
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:52.519
the values are taught very similarly from all different religions,

749
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:53.159
they just are.

750
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That's a fact.

751
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And yet for some reason we've tended to lost that.

752
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.880
Now we're we're running out time, my friend. Yes, sorry, sorry,

753
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:06.000
So a couple of questions. Number one, how do people

754
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find your podcast?

755
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My podcast is across all platforms, so you can find

756
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:17.440
it on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, Amazon, iHeart. It's called The

757
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.960
Evault Podcast with Aaron Scott. I would love for you

758
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.960
to tune in listen. I think that there's a lot

759
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.679
of information I put out there that's perspective shifting, and

760
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.480
I think that it'll be worth your time.

761
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.719
Okay, And if you could leave one final message with

762
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the audience, what would that be.

763
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One final message would be to question ask questions like why,

764
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how create curiosity and look to look for answers, look

765
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to improve yourself through that endeavor. That would be my message.

766
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I love it, and you know what, curiosity is such

767
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.440
an important thing and it's fascinating to me. And we

768
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are going to close because we've run out of time.

769
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But the one thing that comes to my mind is

770
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I've interviewed so many people such as yourself and others.

771
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:09.519
You know, they've had this incredible life as far as professionally,

772
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.239
and yet somewhere along the line that curiosity has caused

773
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:18.239
them to go beyond that economic aspect to where they're

774
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.760
now looking at that spirituality, they're looking at that transformation.

775
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.760
And so I appreciate what you're doing, and I hope

776
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that people come on your podcast because I think they'll

777
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.440
get some great value. I've looked at some of them,

778
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.199
and I think that you know, the topics are just fantastic,

779
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:35.360
So Aaron, thanks so much for being.

780
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On the show. Thank you for having me really enjoyed it.

781
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Thank you you at folks, thanks for listening. I hope

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you've enjoyed it. This is a doctor Doug saying no mistake.